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[–]JStheHammer 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I gave you 100 skittles and told you 99 of them were poison, what would you do?

[–]TFCNU 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate that Donald Trump Jr. used that analogy (and badly, you can screen refugees) but yeah, this.

[–]FraterGGNM 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a risk/reward/benefit equation. I'm 42. Was married for 13 years to the same woman, so the whole "neckbearded virgin" thing definitely doesn't apply to me, if it actually applies to anyone at all. Here's the thing. There is nothing stopping any MGHOW from associating with women but himself. It's not like we venture to the top of a mountain, meet with the Monk of MGTOW who leads us on a vision quest to determine how far away from women we should stay. It's about what an individual man feels is too much risk for too little reward. Some of us avoid women like they have cooties, some of us pump them and dump them. Again, it's about the level of risk that an individual is comfortable with...kind of like investing, which it really is. Your time, your money, your future in exchange for....

As for the women? Generally you will find that they are a risky proposition. The reasons that the posters list on this sub are mostly why they are risky. A shallow, lazy, entitled and manipulative woman is dangerous to you, as a man, if you engage with her in any capacity. Now, I know some hard working women who are selfish and narcissistic...they are risky too, but in a different sort of way. It's up to the individual whether or not they want to take women and assess their risk individually or not. Most MGTOW just don't care to waste their energy. Some do. That's the thing about an idea like MGTOW. It's unique in it's expression to the individual male that accepts it. There are trends, but the moment it stops being the individual men who choose how far it goes for them, it stops being us "Going Our OWN Way".

edit: corrected typo

[–]Saintmyname 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women are what they have always been. They make laws now though. Those laws entitle them to male money. Marriage is practically a guaranteed way to lose your livelihood and mental well-being. I don't think MGTOW are against women --I know I'm not -- but instead are against participating in the patriarchal concept of marriage, child rearing or long term relationships. Women have no consequences for their actions anymore. Much like banks that rely on bailouts they have no moral reason to behave honestly. They can cheat and beat and walk away with your children, income and retirement on a whim. Thus the male/female relationship has become one in which the man is a servant for the woman even after the relationship is dissolved.

MGTOW see that and opt out.

[–]lostapwbm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is every woman shallow, lazy, entitled, manipulating and so on, or is that just generally the case and you don't want to waste your time sifting through the trash?

Yes.

Is it a recent thing that our society has brought out in women, or do you think that women are hard-wired to behave that way and our current society just facilitates it?

Yes.

Do you think that men who believe they are in happy monogamous relationships with women are misguided/lying to themselves, or that the relationship is doomed to turn into a parasitic one further down the line?

Yes.

Okay, here's the non-asshole responses: No, not every woman who has ever walked this Earth is a shallow, lazy, entitled, manipulative piece of shit. But enough of them are that finding the ones who aren't isn't worth the time and effort. Get what you want from them, and when they revert to type, cut them loose. If you want nothing from them, don't deal with them at all.

Is it a recent thing? The scary thing is that it isn't. Our male predecessors noted similar behaviors in their contemporary females. One that immediately springs to mind is the women of Rome storming the Senate and holding the Senators hostage until they ban on sale of luxury goods to females was lifted (Lex Oppia). Another example from Rome was the Lex Papia Poppaea, a slate of morality laws passed by Augustus that penalized bachelorhood and rewarded marriage and breeding because the women had grown so "independent" and intolerable by that point that men were refusing to marry.

I think people in general, but women in particular, are only as "monogamous" as the law and society require them to be. A relationship with a woman will only turn as parasitic as a man allows it to. Women will occasionally test their boundaries (nagging, crying, mockery, threats, etc.) in the relationship and the man has to reassert his boundaries or let her get away with it.

[–]Zombocom1911 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just interested in casual sex and having fun. Lately the women I have been meeting are interested in relationships and want commitment and an eternal pledge that they are my one and only forever. HAHA! its no wonder we don't get along. All they know is future planning and scheming, never enjoying life. It's all about what you can do for THEM in the future. They can't just enjoy having fun in the present moment.

Bitch, I will let you know if you are THAT fantastic that I can't live without you. Trust me.

[–]Myfingersdontwork 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do I get the feeling reading through that I'm being interviewed by a journalist?

[–]DEG23 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just my opinion but women (in terms of relationships) are just one facet of life. When I was younger I believed in the fantasy that was the ideal family unit eg. wife, kids, white picket fenced house. So when I was younger I was willing to put in the time and effort to find that special relationship.

Yet what I found was women who played games, women who seemed to want more from me then they were willing to give and even a few women who strung me along as a backup in case their main guy fell through. Having said that I did meet some genuine women but we just didn't seem to be a good match. All of this was incredibly draining both mentally and emotionally and I reached a point where I started to re-evaluate what I wanted in life, including the fantasy of the happily married life.

Over the last few years I have simply given less importance to women and dating and pursued other interests that I want more. There's no hatred of women. I work with women, am friends with women and I still meet women from time to time whom I go out with but I have reached a point now where I really have no strong desire to be in a relationship or pursue sex. There's simply so many other aspects of life that provide a sense of fulfillment and happiness with much less effort invested.