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[–]LibertyTerpfriedmanite 214ポイント215ポイント  (45子コメント)

"We have to force people to do something or stop doing something even though they are minding their own business and not hurting anyone" - Everyone on the Left and the Right

Trey Parker is a legend. Glad there is somebody pushing a libertarian cultural point of view. South Park reaches and influences more people than any political organization.

[–]Wiinii 37ポイント38ポイント  (3子コメント)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican

In an online forum (South Park Studios Chat, 10 May 2001), Parker and Stone responded to a participant's question:

Q: Are you two guys liberal or conservative? Me and my friends have had debates about this.

Parker: We avoid extremes but we hate liberals more than conservatives and we hate them [conservatives].

Stone: I hate conservatives but I really fucking hate liberals.

In 2006, Parker, Stone, and Sullivan headlined a conference in Amsterdam hosted by the libertarian monthly magazine Reason. During an on-stage interview with Reason editors Nick Gillespie and Jesse Walker, Stone and Parker reaffirmed their discomfort with labels while acknowledging that their political views could be described most accurately as libertarian and rejected the direction of the Republican Party that they described as "more government and more Jesus". John Tierney documented the declaration on the pages of The New York Times a few days later in a column called "South Park Refugees". "South Park Libertarians," an edited version of the interview, appeared in the December 2006 issue of Reason.

[–]kartoffeln514 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stone's real life hatred for hippies is evident in Cartman.

[–]jaijasty2Libertarian/Syndicalist Commie 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

TBF, everyone hates liberals. Except for the liberals of course.

[–]myopicrhino 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Liberals tend to hate each other, too

[–]moeburn 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd just like to hijack this top comment point out that Trey Parker never said "I'm a registered Libertarian", ever. The first half of this quote is just completely made up. This is the closest he ever came:

When PBS’s Charlie Rose asked Trey Parker pointblank on a September 26, 2005 show if he was a libertarian, the outspoken co-creator of South Park was uncharacteristically coy.

“It’s possible,” Parker admitted.

It’s not that he was embarrassed about being a libertarian. It’s just, Parker told the host, that the question was, well, “It’s like: Are you gay?” Then he laughed uproariously.

It was a typical Trey Parker moment. He managed to compare a straightforward political question to a query about sexual orientation and transform an enigmatic answer into a punchline. But Parker’s evasiveness was less about embarrassment than it was about not wanting to be politically pigeonholed. From his, yes, libertarian perspective, Parker (along with creative partner Matt Stone) has been able to infuriate both right-wingers and left-wingers with barbed political satire. And that’s the way he likes it.

https://www.theadvocates.org/libertarianism-101/libertarian-celebrities/trey-parker/

Anyone who is a fan of South Park should have been immediately skeptical about this point. The second and third sentences are famous quotes, but they were never preceded by the first sentence. Not only that, Trey Parker has lambasted anyone who has tried to give him a political label, or put him in a political box. His views are definitely most closely represented by Libertarianism, but he does not self-identify as a Libertarian. And for the record, the show itself has made fun of even Libertarians at one point.

[–]FallInStyle 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you read all the way to the bottom of the article, the first part of the quote is correct, it's just from a different interview. So, it's misleading but he did say "[I'm] a registered libertarian"

[–]bettareckognize 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm pretty far left leaning as an individual, but I don't care to stop anyone from doing anything unless they're hurting people. When you guys say the Left do you mean Democrats or something? Democrats disgust me. They're at best center right. Or do you mean douchebags or idiots who want to shame white kids from wearing a Jasmine from Aladdin costume or something? What constitutes the Left to you guys? Honest question. I consider myself a Democratic Socialist, which obviously means I have a lot of economic policy differences from you folk, but in terms of social policy and interacting with other humans it seems there's more of an issue with filthy politicians and idiots than actual liberals. No insult or harm meant, I'm just curious.

[–]gilezy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you're talking to Americans, then yes Democrat's would be considered left in that they are left of Republicans.

[–]bettareckognize 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, mexican drug cartels are further left than Nazis but I don't think I'd classify them as liberal. What am I then, super duper left?

[–]AnEndgamePawnRealest Realist 102ポイント103ポイント  (8子コメント)

The term that we really need to get people to use when it comes to the far-left and far-right being the same is "moral authoritarianism". They all think they know exactly how you should live your life, and they will use force to make you comply. They just don't agree on the specifics.

[–]agustinona 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

And you think you know exactly what we should name things. Jk, yeah I would just call them authoritarians because I also hate it when they come up with utilitarian excuses to get into people's lives.

[–]somanyroadsVote Gary Johnson 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah...fuck you for trying to tell me what labels to use :-P

[–]reddelicious77 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, one wants to control your bank account - and the other - what you do in your bedroom or spare time (generally, of course - there are exceptions.)

[–]theantirobot 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think you need to qualify it with "moral."

[–]AnEndgamePawnRealest Realist 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

You do, though, because "authoritarian" is just a buzzword. It doesn't even mean anything to anybody anymore, just like "fascist". Nobody takes the word seriously.

By saying "moral authoritarian", the goal is to make them think about the term a little deeper, and make them realize that both sides are authoritarian because they want to enforce their "superior" moral code on everyone else. That's what drives them. Not a simple attitude of "respect my authoritah", which is what "authoritarian" implies.

[–]Gstreetshit 59ポイント60ポイント  (11子コメント)

I think there is a Matt Stone quote too that leads me to believe he is as well.

Something like, I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals.

[–]Eirenarch 30ポイント31ポイント  (7子コメント)

If you watch South Park it is hard to believe they don't at least lean libertarian. They hate censorship and political correctness so much so they can't possibly be liberal and it takes a lot of imagination to see South Park as a show about conservative values.

[–]TheTurtleTamer 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

But you can be liberal and hate censorship and PC.

[–]erk_forever 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Conservatives are pretty big fans of censorship and political correctness.

[–]theantirobot 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe at some time in the past, but right now the left is hard core PC censorship lovers. It's actually pretty scary.

[–]Boukish 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The far right is equally gusto about censorship. Censorship of books for religious reasons is still an ongoing battle - republicans are twice as likely to believe that there exist books that should be banned completely when compared with democrats. The left want their safe spaces, but how is the right any better for dictating what video games are acceptable, what perfectly valid science is appropriate to teach (Rick Scott tried to ban the phrase "climate change" for crying out loud), what TV shows to watch? A far right group was recently calling for the banning of Sons of Anarchy for its sexual content. This fiction about the right championing free expression in the face of these "hard core PC censorship lovers" is complete hogwash from top to bottom, they're just taking on the mantle so you'll stop paying attention to their brand of it--and it looks like it's working on you.

Trying to say one side of the fence is more of one thing than the other side is completely misses the point, being that they're functionally the same. They will do whatever they need to, including censorship, to get you to comply with their authoritarian demands. Infighting about which side is worse is just picking which censorship you find agreeable, when neither is acceptable.

[–]benk4 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agree completely. Both sides seem to love censoring what they don't like while their abhorred by censoring of what they do like.

Liberals used to be anti-censorship, but that changed. Conservatives have always eaten it up.

[–]Newbdesigner -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just different kinds of political correctness. How they demanded to be called pro-life while arguing that four cells are a legally distinct person with rights.

[–]nuck_nuck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really they hate anything that rains on their parade.

[–]savois-faire 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was from an interview with the two of them, in which Trey Parker mentions being a registered libertarian (I believe the quote posted above is from that same interview). The interviewer then looks at Matt Stone to see if he'll concur, but Stone seemed less inclined to apply a label to himself, and chooses to just state his disdain for both liberals and conservatives. He said that the two of them are "more right-wing than most people in Hollywood", before going on to explain that "I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals".

[–]Dildoe_SwagginzVote Gary Johnson 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought this was common knowledge. I especially like how that show makes fun of EVERYBODY involved, not just one side of the equation.

[–]Kinglink 47ポイント48ポイント  (4子コメント)

They both are.

Pay attention to the show they constantly rail at the government, both parties. Not just making jokes but you can tell there are two libertarians behind the show.

[–]mysticrudnin 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

they don't have to be libertarians to be against both parties the way that they are, i would say.

[–]Kinglink 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

They don't have to, but it certainly helps.

And honestly, there's not many parties that are against the government the way they are. They're for less needless government, less welfare/nanny state, and and not for either of the two idiot parties. I mean they seem to be anti-socialist, they're not republicans or democrats and they aren't the green party, there's not really a lot of options left. (Though some)

But it's kind of a moot point, they both have said (multiple times) they're libertarians, and actually appear to be libertarians, compared to some idiots like Bill Maher who claims to be a libertarian, but doesn't exhibit any of the signs. You know like seeing Hillary as a bad mistake, or not claim that all the libertarian party is "nutso" or something of that type.

[–]mysticrudnin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

but you can tell there are two libertarians behind the show.

this is mostly my contention

certainly, if they say they're libertarians, they are

but you can be any number of things and write the political jokes that they do

[–]theantirobot 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"We're the FDA, without us you'd be eating dirt, and chairs!"

[–]wazappa 15ポイント16ポイント  (22子コメント)

ever heard the term, southpark republican?

[–]ZeboTheClown[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (21子コメント)

No actually. Can you explain?

[–]shiftyeyedgoatlibertarian party 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, South Park Republican was basically coined by Andrew Sullivan back in the early aughts:

Andrew Sullivan dubs the fans of all this cable-nurtured satire “South Park Republicans”—people who “believe we need a hard-ass foreign policy and are extremely skeptical of political correctness” but also are socially liberal on many issues, Sullivan explains. Such South Park Republicanism is a real trend among younger Americans, he observes: South Park’s typical viewer, for instance, is an advertiser-ideal 28.

[–]A_Meat_Popsicle 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like it's standard libertarianism that was caught up with the heavy nationalism rampant in the years immediately following 9/11. I think he might have had a different conclusion if that article was written today.

[–]-Shank- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably, considering the show's take on Trump's campaign the past two seasons.

[–]cobalt26 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Took er jerbs?

[–]wazappa 14ポイント15ポイント  (16子コメント)

Its been around for at least a decade and is what I considered myself before Paul'08. But it goes to show that many people who are libertarians remain tied to the republican party

[–]ZeboTheClown[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (15子コメント)

Ok thanks. I don't get why Republicans seem more likely to become Libertarian than Democrats.

[–]LeSwish18 41ポイント42ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well I used to be republican. I think it's because the republican base tends to be for small government. Republican politicians tend to preach about limited government even if their actions don't back it up.

[–]jeremiahs_bullfrog 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yup. That's why I was a Republican growing up. When I realized that in practice, Republicans push just as much "big government" policies as Democrats, I looked for alternatives and found Libertarianism.

I still side with the Republican Party on more issues than the Democratic Party, so I rarely vote Democrat (though I'll probably vote for at least one Democrat this election because we don't have a Libertarian candidate and the Republican is awful), but that's beginning to change because I'm increasingly convinced my area (Utah) is completely backwards on social issues while being good on the government size related issues.

[–]40acresandapool 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You were a good friend of mine.

[–]readonlypdfminarchist 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Gary Johnson exists and will be on your ballot

[–]jeremiahs_bullfrog 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup, and he's had my vote since Rand Paul dropped out. I also recently (last year) switched my political affiliation to Libertarian, and I'm considering getting more involved, maybe even run for local office in positions that don't have Libertarian representation.

[–]readonlypdfminarchist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I switched Allegiance in 2012 because Mitt just seemed well To socially conservative

[–]mc_md 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Old-school conservatives wanted small government and conservative fiscal policy. Modern republicans are democrat-light. Both are still closer to liberty than the modern progressive.

[–]CompleteShutInminarchist 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Democrats have a really hard time getting on board with the 'free markets' thing.

[–]VoiceOfLunacy 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

And the free choice thing too

[–]nuck_nuck -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Free markets don't exist.

[–]Adrewmc -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So does reality...

[–]ioudas210 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Monetary policy mostly.

[–]BadderBanana 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the rollback of DODT and overturn of DOMA set that table. The moderate Republicans are embarrassed by their colleagues who are still fighting that battle.

I'm talking about you, Bill Schulte, quit wasting my money on frivolous law suits.

[–]benk4 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's because they pay lip service to small government. They say all the time that their the party of small government so small government people gravitate towards them naturally. All it takes to leave the party is realizing how horribly twisted their idea of small government is.

Meanwhile democrats actively say they want a bigger government, so it's tougher for libertarian minded people to join them. Despite in my opinion the Democrats being closer to the libertarians than the GOP is.

[–]Geoffericagorist 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think anyone that's seen more than one episode of Southpark realizes it's a Libertarian program.

[–]Dareall 28ポイント29ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yes, this a thousand times. It's so easy to point out the same lines of flawed logic on either extreme side. I love encountering a good moderate in the wild. They are challenging.

[–]the_popcorn_pisser 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

2016: The year here I can finally say I lean libertarian without getting hate looks.

[–]turtleman777 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wild MODERATE appeared!

[–]GoPetADog 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Libertarian Lessons of South Park by Brandon Simpson is a fun read.

[–]FiscalCliffHuxtableLibertarian Left 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

So much horseshoe theory up in here.

[–]al032184 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

Today?? Where have you been since 1998?

[–]ten24classical liberal, libertarian party 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

TIL:

Pets.com is the next big Internet property.

[–]CharliesDick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

TiL you can buy cat food at pets.com

[–]al032184 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hear good things about this "myspace" or whatever.

[–]NoMoreNicksLeftleave-me-the-fuck-alone-ist 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Neck deep in the GOPs nether orifice, I suspect.

[–]Varrick2016 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

This finally explains how so much of South Park is brilliant when it comes to political satire.

[–]frugalNOTcheap 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://studentsforliberty.org/blog/2014/09/21/top-5-libertarian-south-park-episodes/

[–]jeremiahs_bullfrog 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

My coworker loves South Park but doesn't want to vote Libertarian. I'll have to show him this and perhaps get a recruit :)

[–]YMDBass 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Like most libertarians, the good thing about where we are is that we can see the obvious hypocrisy in both sides. I know for me, I find it hillarious to be able and make fun of both. I also agree with Trey that it's way more fun to make fun of the Left because A) it doesn't get attacked as often, and B)They've got a WAYYY thinner skin than people on the right.

[–]Varrick2016 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's also why those Safe Space and SoDaSoPa episode arcs were so well done. Hell even the transgender bathroom episodes where they plainly said hey this isn't a kid dealing with gender identity issues, this is Eric Cartman trying to cause a ruckus.

[–]SpydiggityNeo-Con...Liberal...What's the difference? 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's only been posted here a dozen times...

[–]dutchboy99 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like him even more now.

[–]Naram-Sin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Regardless of political affiliation, I've always respected comedians who can make fun of both sides.

[–]thekmitch 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I started watching South Park when I was 9 years old. I remember my parents forbidding me to watch it because of the bad language and crude humor, but I still managed to sneak down to the living room late at night to view it with the volume low. I'm now 29 and having grown up with the show, I would be lying if I said South Park didn't have an impact on my worldview. Through the satire, it provided another point of view to challenge the mainstream liberal/neoconservative beliefs of my family. Anyone else around my age that I have met who loves the show as much as I do, has a similar Libertarian outlook to life, and I don't think that is a coincidence.

[–]YMDBass 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've found out recently that Trey Parker, Krist Novaselic, and Mark Hoppus are all Libertarians. That said, Matt and Trey are the people who if they offered me a job, I don't care the amount of money, I would drop everything I had to go work for them. Simply put, they are brilliant.

[–]Derpetite 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you watch that Making Of South Park shot doc? They looked like they had so much fun working. Stressful given the timelines they inflict on themselves and their staff, but fun

[–]YMDBass 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, I did see it. I thrive on that stress honestly. I work as a director (Director/Technical Director/Graphics operator/MCO/Video Operator) for a news station (in a top 25 market) and literally every mistake I make is available to be seen by thousands of people at any given moment. Most of the time on headset while talking on headset, I'm just making fun of the idiots we find sound bites from, and right now where I work, there are a bunch (I Work in Charlotte NC...I think you get the gist.) That said, I've listened to all their directors commentary on every single south park episode and movie they've made (including Cannibal the Musical! which has one of the best Director Tracks of all time). I'd just love to pick their brains for a few minutes, even if I were a janitor at south park studios.

[–]trenescesePolish ancap 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mark Hoppus

source?

When I think of blink and politics I hear "corporate leaders, politicians, kids can't vote, adults elect them" which sounds like typical liberal bullshit

[–]readonlypdfminarchist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

South Park tends to take a libertarian slant on most issues.

The left despises it even when they support left wing stuff. The right tolerates it

[–]Good2Go5280 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Today?

[–]KlehmM 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I learned I was a libertarian because of South Park

[–]moeburn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is politically, although he doesn't self-identify as one, but the show also made fun of a Libertarian hero very early on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j56IiLqZ9U

[–]moeburn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

FYI, the first half of this quote is made up.

Trey Parker has never at any point said "I'm a registered Libertarian". He said the last two sentences, but not that. In fact, he's lambasted people who have tried to label a libertarian, specifically because he doesn't like confining himself to one political box.

[–]ElranzerDaily Reminder: Trump is no Libertarian 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

"People on the far-left and the far-right are the exact same person to us." - Trey Parker

... and yet, many fans, especially alt-righters, tend to think Matt and Trey favor Republicans to Democrats (must not be paying attention to the current season).

Plus, in 2008, Matt and Trey were rooting for Hillary Clinton because "it would be really weird to have her as president."

[–]somanyroadsVote Gary Johnson 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this is pretty obvious stuff, but I'm sure some South Park fans (I'm not one...always thought the voices were too annoying to stand for 20 minutes listening to), from Trey again:

The religious right used to be a better alternative, Parker said. "The Republicans didn't want the government to run your life, because Jesus should. That was really part of their thing: less government, more Jesus. Now it's like, how about more government and Jesus?"

[–]zugy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

People hear what they want to hear. It's nothing new.

[–]Jason_OT 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many alt-righters also think Trump has libertarian qualities.

Matt and Trey are a lot closer to the center of libertarianism than this sub was before some Bernie supporters started jumping ship.

That's not to say Bernie represents libertarianism, either, but the type of people decrying all the "Berniebots" here are just the same type of LINOs Matt and Trey wouldn't distinguish from the hardcore socialist Bernie supporters.

[–]shfiven 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'd like to see them poke a little fun at Johnson in the coming weeks. This is kind of his target demographic.

[–]prayformojo80 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Eh, I think they put comedy far above promoting any agenda, and I don't see them bringing Johnson into the show without tearing him apart for humor like they do with other politicians, even if they happen to agree with him.

[–]shfiven 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think they'd make fun of him sticking his tongue out or something. Would get his name in front of millions of people though.

[–]flossdaily 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's easy to be a libertarian when you are obscenely wealthy.

Who needs public services when you can afford literally anything you might want?

I guess it's also just pure coincidence that he supports a political ideology that would have the rich pay hardly any taxes.

[–]sloth788 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Libertarianism in a nutshell: "Fuck you guys - I'm going home"

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But no really - libertarians want "freedom to" as opposed to "freedom from"

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Freedom to spend your money on whatever you want.

compared to

Freedom from the fear of losing your health insurance when the economy tumbles.

...

Sure it's an extreme example, but it illustrates a point. Freedom is a nonsense word. It's a buzzword used to inspire people and manipulate people with high-minded bullshit.

Liberty, on the other hand, is a real thing. It means that you have the freedom to do anything you want.

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What most libertarians miss is that liberty is an inalienable right. It can't be taken away. Of course you have free will. It can never, ever, no matter what, be taken away. It's physically impossible. Liberty is a part of human nature.

What libertarians really want, isn't liberty. They already have liberty. Again. Liberty is inalienable. Libertarians want a lack of consequences.

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What do you mean, they want a lack of consequences?

If they don't want to pay taxes and support society, they don't want there to be consequences.

If they squander their lives and gifts on heroin, they don't want there to be consequences.

If they want to only pay their employees 10 cents an hour, they don't want there to be consequences.

No regulations, no social constructs, nothing.

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Libertarian is just a mild form of anarcho-communism, where they aren't so blinded by ideology that they realize it's useful to have some public institutions, like roads and a military.

[–]Chadpbj 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahahaha are you serious?

[–]ZeboTheClown[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I doubt most libertarians are 'obscenely wealthy'.

[–]redvblue23 -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

I doubt many are living paycheck to paycheck.

[–]ZeboTheClown[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm sure there's a large range between poverty and extreme wealth

[–]redvblue23 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

A massive percentage of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. That doesn't make them at poverty level.

[–]somanyroadsVote Gary Johnson -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's easy to be a social liberal, when you assume government is the answer to everything, and "more free stuff" is a reasonable economic policy, and answer to the "problem of human needs", rather than a free market where we each make our own free choices, including bad choices (as long as they don't harm others, steal from others, or aren't part of a fraudulent exchange).

[–]charles_theMANson -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I already assumed that Trey and also Matt were probably libertarians. Their work is too intelligent for them not to be.

[–]unlimitedzen 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

You sound enlightened by your own intelligence

[–]Chest-Rockwell- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's right, the problem is we see the meme version of the far right all the time on reddit, in movies, television, etc. basically riffing on Nixon or Bush. The left doesn't acknowledge that they're basically the same, which is unfortunate.

[–]valvesmith 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I have a sister that just swung from hard left Dem to Republican Trump supporter. People are surprised by her change in views. I'm sure not. I'd be more surprised if she mellowed out.

[–]Jason_OT 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is/was she a Union Democrat?

i.e. generally xenophobic, often Roman Catholic, will believe any promise of more American jobs no matter how obscenely bad the financial policy is (e.g. Trump's push for higher tariffs)

[–]kartoffeln514 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Higher tariffs sure fucked us up under Harding.

[–]drewtammoderate 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

These guys (the So Park creators) effect more libertarian ideas in the public culture than all the Gary Johnson presidential runs combined.

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[–]jad2192 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of my favorite clips

[–]LiberalWelfareLeech 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why I love South Park. No one is safe from thier jokes

[–]TheGoodCitizen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I literally thought that a libertarian was someone on both the far-left and the far-right at the same time... like that last sliver of circle that closes the loop.

[–]Zexus_Kai 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

TIL which one was Trey Parker

[–]ProlierThanThou 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

dae le horseshoe theory?

dae le truth is in the middle?

[–]Farmass 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish Rand would've ran as a Libertarian this election.

[–]DarthDeltaWilliam Weld 2016 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Horseshoe theory

[–]shadorangero -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

libertarians are real sanctimonious for a group of people whose political ideologies are based in little more than greed and apathy.

[–]lackingsaint 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They'd lose their minds if they realised being so intensely reactionary and pro-status quo on every issue was its own kind of extremism.

[–]colordrops -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

"In this moment I am euphoric, not because of any phony politics, but because I am enlighted by my own ideology." -Trey Parker

[–]Myte342 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unfortunately in the same interview (or another like it) he said things which make it clear he still falls for the two party trap of wasting your vote and throwing it away if you vote third party.

I believe it was the 'if Johnson had any hope in hell of winning, I'd vote for him' comment. Which says to me that he won't vote to his morals and conscience and will instead vote for the 'lesser of two evils' bit.

[–]HowNotToStatistic -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's just a lie. The "far left" things they rip on are facts like global warming or moderate left things. The "far right" things they rip on are actually far right, like Trump.

You're not Libertarian just because you're a right winger who's anti-discrimination.