Hot Goss straight from the top (Maddox)

Vagbonlahor · 22時間前

Aside from all the drama bs, I will say the opening joke of him putting down a controller and saying "Oh Hi, I'm just working on my book" got a laugh out of me.

GreatBayGavin · 21時間前

I'm not trying to blindly defend Dick, but that rape comment is nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be and completely consistent with Dick's philosophy. He's just saying you should always expect the worst from people.

ShockinglyEfficient · 22時間前

Finally Maddox breaks the fucking silence! Lots of good stuff in here for Dick to respond to. If Maddox is telling the truth about the emails and the forms, then it seems like Dick has been a slippery little fucker. Although this doesn't clear up why the podcast ended, why Dick was banned that one show, why he didn't mention him in the last episode, and why he banned people from going on his show. It seems like at the worst, Dick lost or ignored a bunch of emails.

And also using a 4chan message board to somehow make it seem like Dick is okay with rape? I'm not falling for that shit. You can't control what your fans say and do on the internet.

GrinGrimmingGhost · 22時間前

Wow. Who'd have thought, after all of this, that the truth would be so...boring.

asterioskokkinos · 17時間前

Dick & Maddox should do a live debate and hash this shit out once and for all. Sell tickets, give the money to charity!

SunJMH · 20時間前

The leaked conversations - Dick talked shit behinds maddox's back. This seems to be the main reason the show ended.
The website being down was for security reasons - okay...not sure about this one. Also, its not the reason the show ended.
Dick said he wasnt going to do anything about the bonus episodes being put up. Okay....not sure what this has to do with the breakup.
8chan board - Absolutely ridiculous argument by maddox
Dicks comment about how someone should expect to be raped if they're getting passed out drunk with random people. Not sure what Maddox is thinking with this one? Dick expects the worst in people and thinks people should protect themselves and be smart about what situations they're getting themselves into. Obviously hes not condoning sexual assault/rape. Thats an extremely low bullshit argument by Maddox. Im not gonna fall for this ridiculous argument either.

It seems the main reason the show ended was Dick talking shit behind Maddox's back. Of course we dont know everything that came before that conversation, but I don't really care. It seems like this is going to go on forever.

exileonmainst · 22時間前

So basically... nothing? They didn't like each other and Maddox cancelled the show.

-DEAD- · 22時間前

sounds to me like Maddox just got sick of Dick being a dick and then a bunch of petty squabbling ensued.

Pyroteq · 21時間前

EDIT -

Puting my edit at the top because fuck you, anyone with a brain understands the point Dick was making anyway:

Maddox completely ignores the implication from Dick that he was kicked off the show for a week. It seems like Dick was pissed off at Maddox for trying to do the show without him and was venting to a fan. I hardly see how this is worth cancelling a show over, especially if their venting is caused by you.

So yeah, while I can understand Maddox was upset Dick was talking shit behind his back, Maddox brought it upon himself by telling Dick he wanted to try out another co-host and then telling fans that "Dick couldn't make it" instead of just telling people he was going to try out a new co-host. I think we can all safely assume Maddox didn't admit this at the time because his fan base would have torn him to shreds.

So really, it seems that Maddox was already going down the road of getting rid of Dick long before Dick made those comments.

Basically, this answers nothing since we already know that Maddox was trying to find a replacement for Dick and Maddox is being really petty here trying to paint Dick as a rape apologist which is pretty fucked up.

Original comment:

I think he took that quote from Dick WAAAAAAAAAY out of context.

It sounded like what Dick was saying is that you SHOULD expect the worst, therefore you should be cautious.

He's not saying "you deserve to get raped", he's saying it's your responsibility to protect yourself because no one else is going to do it for you. I don't see how this is false?

I'm a guy and if I'm walking home late at night I'm going to stay away from shady area, take my headphones out and be alert. Why?

Because I SHOULD expect to be mugged if I'm walking down a dark alley with my hands in my pockets and headphones in. Expecting the worst means I'm going to avoid those situations.

If a girl is at a party getting black out drunk around frat boys she SHOULD expect to be sexually assaulted. If she expects this then hopefully she's smart enough to remove herself from that situation.

Does she DESERVE to be raped? Of course not, but she's a complete retard if she expects a bunch of drunk morons to be looking out for her best interests.

TheBeerstud · 18時間前

So taking Dick's comment about rape, which was conveying the point that women should be careful, out of context didn't align with his values?

Since we are taking snippets of what other people said out of context, what about that time Maddox made a joke about banging a pregnant woman because it was like banging both? Does a comment like that align more with his values? I can't remember off hand, so please correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't he made comments on the show expressing happiness over children dying? Also, when they were talking about rape that one episode and Dick made the joke "Speaking of mattresses, today's episode is brought to you by Casper" and Maddox was losing his shit laughing. What makes all of this behavior okay? He is so fake. I tried to watch this video of his about Dick with an open mind, I really did. He didn't make any good points and managed to walk away looking even more petty. He also failed to address everyone's real questions. This video did nothing but bring him down a couple more notches.

At this point I am so not even interested in any of this anymore.

EDIT - Also, Maybe Dick talked smack about Maddox behind his back to the fan because Maddox asked Dick to sit out that episode. Hey Maddox, care to enlighten us as to why you asked Dick to sit out that episode? News flash, until you do, you can't use that 'talking behind my back' argument because you weren't being that good of a friend to him by doing that. So shifty.

hery41 · 18時間前

Anyone else think it's weird how a lot of maddox' talking points are exactly the same as baldeagle and the jimbo guy's? The W9s, the "i'm not the copy right police" comment etc.

Vote up conspiracy dipshits.

Xantusiidae · 21時間前

Jesus, Maddox is a child. His argument boiled down to "Dick told someone we're not friends and that made me sad, he said girls need to protect themselves and expect bad shit to happen when they put themselves in dangerous situations (gasp! How irresponsible of him to warn women to keep themselves safe from rapists!), and Dick made an offhand comment about piracy once so I'm allowed to do whatever I want with our show without asking him!" That was a lot worse than I thought it could be.

Also, even if Dick was against his moral values, that's the whole point of having a debate show. I'm sure plenty of shit Maddox said pissed Dick off, but he's not a raging pussy about it. He just argued his points like a man (and always made it entertaining, unlike Maddox who would mostly just start whining). Oh, and Maddox making a big deal about his message boards having low class rape jokes (which aren't actually made by Dick)... oh my! I hope Maddox never talked about any harmful subject matter, like, say, murdering people's children (a hundred fucking times over), or else he's going to look like a raging crybaby hypocrite.

ockupid32 · 20時間前

That Dick comment about rape is typical Maddox only half-paying attention and jumping to a conclusion. IT's 100% the same thing as the Trump Quote he tried to "get" dick with. He has no fucking idea what he thinks is being said.

Kinosan · 19時間前

Wordpress expert here, and this is how I talk. Wordpress 4.5.3 was released on June 21, 2016. TBPITU Episode 107 released on May 31. Unless Maddox can cough up what version of WP was installed on/before August 4 of screenshot, this is an invalid stat. (biggest.thedickshow.com is showing it's running ver. 4.6. btw, so dick's updated it since Maddox's deletion--or just had to install on new server.)

https://codex.wordpress.org/Version_4.5.3

Adminer is a rarely updated plugin. 1.4.2 was the last "stable" release, and 1.4.5 was in limited release (because it's gone defunct since that screenie.)

Oh, and upgrading plugins all willy-nilly in WP can easily break things, fyi. Proceed with caution, newbs.

6 inactive Themes, 12 inactive plugins--fuck, they've all probably been like that since the start of the podcast. And WP comes with a few themes. Negligible, mostly--but dangerous? I doubt George Sears is a hacker.

Maddox doesn't know shit about web 2.0+ (OR cms if you want to be pedantic.)

WeirdAlYankADick · 21時間前

Makes me side with Dick even more tbh fam

radiodialdeath · 18時間前

On one hand, I'm happy that Maddox finally put out something on the matter.

But it still seems like Maddox is hiding a few things - yeah, it's shitty that apparently he finds out Dick hates him over a reddit message that was made public, but Dick wouldn't hate him for no reason - there's probably more and more backstory we aren't seeing, and probably never will.

borophylle · 22時間前

Dick was probably drunk and angry when he said he couldn't stand Maddox. Frankly, I can't stand my friends half the time, either.

Maddox is still a little bitch.

UofLBird · 21時間前

This is just dumb. The examples of "lies" from Dick are pretty big leaps. Dick said Maddox didn't respond to Dick asking about the free episodes and He didn't. He asked for a tax form that had nothing to do with it and wouldn't be completed for another fucking 5 months.

danmanlott · 17時間前

So this is what BaldEagle is doing after he deleted his account.

49th · 21時間前

Glad to finally hear Maddox's side of events; as expected there was no crazy falling out, but a build up of many things which all sound pretty fair to me. I certainly wouldn't keep working with someone who disliked me.

I still listen to The Dick Show and enjoy it for the most part but quite honestly I try to distance myself from that community. All the edgy memelords have seemed to gravitate towards Dick - it's cringeworthy. I'm not surprised someone set up a rape list on 8chan, it's obviously not endorsed but it still exists and when a motto of the show is, "Get Raped", you can be sure some inept fans won't understand that it's satire.

lycanthh · 19時間前

I think a lot of people expected a much bigger reason for why the podcast ended and are now lashing out in anger against Maddox for not meeting the expectations, and I think a lot of people in this thread are reacting in a dumb way.

Look, let's say Dick's comment about rape was just him trying to say "you should always expect the worse from people", he still didn't do a good job managing his part of the website, he talked shit about Maddox behind his back, he lied a whole freaking lot, and he's okay with having a community that condones rape (he could delete the post from his subreddit, or flat out tell his fans to stop that kind of horrible actions).

It seems that the breakup put most people over on Dick's side and they're now reacting as biased observers.

Smitty-Werbenmanjens · 19時間前

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Sofa_Man · 20時間前

I think the most important takeaway is that the reason Maddox didn't thank Dick is because the screenshot says Dick's goal is publicity.

Smitty-Werbenmanjens · 14時間前

Did you really have to ruin the video with the cringy "rape" thing? Come on.

It was fine until that point: Dick ignored your emails, was shady about money, talked shit about you on Reddit (which seems to me it's your real problem with him) and then went on his show saying that you ended the podcast without explanation, that you edited out his content, rm -rf'd the website and then ignored him; which are a lie made to victimize himself and win more Patreon money.

That was enough. The rape thing... No. We're talking about a podcast that defended pedophiles in one episode. We could take more snippets like that and say "Maddox approves pedophilia!"

Without context that snippet is meaningless. And even if you're right and most of the edited-out content was stuttering and poorly-worded arguments, even then you choose an awful bit because it's so outrageous that people is going to ignore that Dick lied to his fans to get more P money and instead talk about wether or not he was supporting rape.

Also, is the 8chan board moderated by Dick? Because I agree that he shouldn't leave threads like that open in something that represents him, but if it's just an unofficial board that he linked to... Well, then there's not much he can do, right?

USDebtCrisis · 20時間前

So the best Maddox can come up with is the same debunked horseshit and pedantic hearsay that we've been pelted with for weeks here?

What a petty asshole

cross-joint-lover · 12時間前

Wait wait wait wait... He goes into the he said / she said stuff, throwing up screenshots of emails and private messages (which mean very little), but he ignores the one main point that annoyed the fuck out of me and most of the other fans:

HE HIJACKED THE FEED. He specifically removed all the episodes from the podcast feed, renamed it and uploaded his own show in its place! He stole the subscribers. He stole the numbers that made TBPitU a success and he did it solely to boost his new project. (And no, it's not just subscriber numbers - these numbers translate to real money when it comes to advertisers!)

I know that now, in retrospect, he can say stuff like "it costs money to keep a feed up", but at the time it happened, his first and only reasoning behind the hijack was that it takes too long to start a new podcast due to iTunes' slow approval process, so he just used the existing TBPitU feed. His second reason (after Dick's new podcast went up on iTunes almost instantly, thus proving that it really doesn't take that long) was that "iTunes fucked up". Yep, classic iTunes bug that removes every single episode from a feed, changes its name and replaces it with a new show, keeping all the subscribers... Maddox not addressing this point is the main reason for why I call bullshit on the whole video.

I couldn't give two fucks about what /u/DickMasterson said about Maddox to some random guy in a private message or how it hurt Maddox's feelings, or how 4chan has rape jokes - that's all personal stuff that frankly doesn't matter. All I wanted to hear was - WHY did Maddox sneakily delete the show and steal all its subscribers?

And as for deleting the website - couldn't he just press "update" on those plugins? I'm not a shrewd coder like Maddox, but like almost anyone out there, I have worked with Wordpress - that shit takes a couple of seconds. I think he made a big mistake, deleted the page in anger, stole the subscribers of the feed out of spite and only then started covering his tracks. Like hastily uploading the raw mp3's onto his SoundCloud (like a week after the outrage from fans) or slapping together the HTML site to replace the Wordpress one he deleted.

So yeah, nice try, but fuck you Maddox - too little, too late. Dick may have been a meanie to you, there may have been creative differences, you may or may not have ignored each other's emails and there may or may not have been communication issues when it came to finances (no biggie, the law will protect your money, even if Dick did try to steal it as you imply), but the bottom line is that YOU deleted the podcast, YOU stole the subscribers to promote your own show, YOU deleted the web page.

cross-joint-lover · 11時間前

Wait, is the page down already??

http://i.imgur.com/Uatpscz.jpg

That was quick. I'm hoping it's just a connection issue... but given how weak the "arguments" in that video were and how Maddox failed to address the one thing he needed to explain (hijacking / stealing the subscribers from the original feed for his new show), I wouldn't be surprised if he just took it down.

Ashanmaril · 20時間前

Hey, I'm in this video (1:50)

I've made it, guys

In all seriousness, I'm surprised he actually brought this up now though. I assumed this was another joke. Still didn't mention the thing with him basically telling Asterios to go fuck himself.

Greedav · 22時間前

Password is "#DickLies"

kingjoedirt · 3時間前

I wonder if Dick didn't want to file taxes so he didn't want Maddox to file a W9 for him so the IRS didn't know he was getting paid. I have zero evidence of this, just a shower thought.

Demplition · 1時間前

It's sickening Maddox would use a soundbite and suggest the context is a lot more malicious than it actually is, and then post an image board screen shot of a person advocating rape when there's no verification it was Dick and suggest Dick is responsible for it. This is blatant character assassination.

threefingersplease · 22時間前

Welp... Dick is a huge asshole as we all knew. I thought he was at least a harmless one. Now I'm not so sure. I am glad Maddox finally had enough and fought back. Good for him.

viral_architect · 15時間前

I still don't agree with Maddox, but at least I get where he is coming form now. That's really all I wanted.

lightsaberrave · 8時間前

Oh look Dick is an asshole as well. So shocking!

Love both shows, will continue to listen to both. Tsauawh is the WINNER!

GreatBayGavin · 22時間前

"Cuck" worked as a password. I guessed he geared it towards the people harping on about it most. I think anything probably works.

Glad he finally fucking said something.

My opinion, though, is he should have said it sooner. Maddox has had a lot of other actions that are questionable. If coconuts is against him now? Idk. It seems mostly personal.

shelcod · 22時間前

I've always said that people were to quick to judge Maddox, and a lot of this stuff was obvious (the wordpress site, the iTunes feed, and Dick being a hypocrit about the bonus episodes). As Dick himself said, he is a great manipulator and liar. Either way I wonder what his response will be.

Dick's black out drunk rape comment also was pretty disturbing. Does anyone have any guesses as to what episode that could have been deleted from? If it was before episode 77 then I could understand why Maddox asked Dick to leave so he could talk about the virginity stigma without Dick saying shit like that.

Edit: Upon thinking about it more. Dick isn't implying passed out girls should be raped, he is implying that they should look out for themselves and expect it to happen, which honestly makes more sense.

Lightbrand · 18時間前

You people chanting "you should expect to be raped" really fuels the mentality in feminists' heads which prompt them to put up those signs telling men to not rape women.

I remember Bill Burr or someone made fun of that whole ridiculousness in one of his stand ups

FloozyGod · 9時間前

No wonder they had such good chemistry, they hated each other the entire time! I guess it's a shame that they won't get back together, but two shows = twice as much Sean!!!

UofLBird · 12時間前

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