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Is the new trend for very high tempo pressing ruining our chances with England in the summer and our teams in the business end of the CL? (self.reddevils)

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Most of the English players looked completely dead at the Euros.
Tottenham completely imploded at the end of the season, a season which they played high tempo pressing pretty much all of. A lot was made of Leicesters tenacity. To me this means they were happy to play without the ball, but made teams work hard in any case. They had no European commitments.

My brother has a theory that Jose seems to believe that high tempo pressing isn't the best way to play. It knackers the players and without a winter break, and the amount of games we have to play throughout the season by the business end, the players are all running on empty.
I'm not sure I agree with him, but maybe there is something there.
Pep and Klopp love that high pressing game. So are there rocket starts going to be curtailed as the season goes on?
Have I just spouted shit for a few minutes?

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[–]ManUChao7PogBack!!! 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Only 2011 Barca could maintain this intensive pressing and won everything. Pep s Bayern was injury prone all three seasons even Liverpool and Tottenham drop form last season. That's the reality except if you find Barca medicine😂

[–]Iamnotasexrobot[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Funnily enough, those are the exact teams that my brother used as his argument. He said Barca were a freak team, and even Bayern have dropped at the end of the last 2 seasons. That maybe because they had already won it, I don't know. Didn't do so well in Europe though.

[–]AngryUncleTonyShaw 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't necessarily subscribe to it, but there have been rumors that that whole team was doped up.

[–]brownbear199Schweinsteiger 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm hoping you're right regarding a drop-off in performance from the high pressing teams in the latter stages of the PL - City especially - but their strength in depth is great so maybe it won't be as much of a problem.

I do, however, think that if Jose manages to get the balance right and continues without a very high pressing game that it'll help prevent another injury-plagued season, which inevitably will increase points on the board.

[–]Iamnotasexrobot[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't see past City tbh, because as you said, their squad depth.
Damn it's frustrating as a Utd fan at the minute. Our squad isn't too lacking in comparison to them, but their first 11 are stronger imo for sure.
I reckon 2 transfer windows are needed before we have a good enough first 11 and squad to compete for the Champions League. We have a massive outside chance at the league based on City dropping off - but then it's almost a toss up between us/Liverpool/Arsenal, maybe even Spurs. Damn it's going to be a good season whatever. Seriously, I hate to see City or Liverpool do well but I love watching good football from anyone, and I've been seeing it all season.
I'm actually watching MOTD again for the first time in years!

[–]PX44 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's one way to play the game, Jose has another.

I think Jose is right in terms of, yes, not playing a high intense press is probably better for fitness over the course of a league, but I don't think it necessarily means injuries abound for Liverpool, Spurs, etc, it depends a lot on the fitness regimes, the training structure in the week.

[–]United7s 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought the English league had a break now?

[–]ClwNzaMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As far as I know it was up for discussion. But not decided yet. Definitely not this season

[–]Iamnotasexrobot[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is too much money for it to happen in my opinion. Sky and BT need football weekly to justify the massive outlay they put into the PL.

[–]ReadingAid 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No It doesnt effect it directly,

The high tempo pressing you see from teams like Spurs, Liverpool and City is only effective for about a third of the season, the rest they will have to rely on quality and build up play.

Its how we beat Liverpool, City etc in recent years as we simply dominated the game with possession meaning the opposition had to harry and chase for most of the game.

The antithesis to pressing is smart movement of the ball, now I think we may have issues as a squad as I think Jose sets his teams out to obsorbe and counter, whereas this may work against teams with less quality on the ball the issue is that teams like City and Spurs are exceptional on the ball.

But there are ways around the GENGENPRESS, its not viable for a whole season.

[–]AC5L4T3R -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Who cares about England?

[–]Iamnotasexrobot[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

TBH I don't anymore. Our negative press and pundits just destroy any enthusiasm I have for England.
However, if Jose is purposely trying to not play as high tempo football I'm hoping that it will give us an advantage over some of our rivals. On the other hand, maybe we will be too far behind for it to matter.