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[–]rabidfurby 2286ポイント2287ポイント  (294子コメント)

Longtime /r/Seattle poster here. I'll do my best at an unbiased answer, although I'm admittedly biased.

There's been a lot of complaints for more than a year about the moderation in /r/seattle. Most of them center around rule #6, which says quite vaguely "we're a community, not a bulletin board". That rule is the reason given for removing everything from spam posts like "hey my band is in Seattle and we're playing a show at such-and-such, everyone come out and see!" to posts that don't seem to break any rules of redditquette and would fit in fine on any other sub. There's also a separate rule against spam that could be used to delete the former post. So the perception is that "rule #6" is just a way for the mods to remove anything they don't like, regardless of what the community thought of it in terms of upvotes and downvotes.

Since these posts just get deleted, they tend to go down the memory hole and it's difficult to come up with concrete examples. For one example of a post that I think got needlessly removed - like in most big cities, in Seattle there's a debate over regulation of AirBnb and similar services. About a month ago, someone who hosts AirBnbs in Seattle got an email from AirBnb corporate HQ, asking all of their hosts in Seattle to email the city council asking them to "protect home-sharing". That AirBnb host posted that link to reddit. This started a debate about the pros and cons of AirBnb, which got upvoted, attracting more users, and so on. To me, that's exactly how reddit should work.

The post got removed pretty quickly, despite the upvotes and the lively yet civil discussion. I personally appreciated the post because it gave me a reminder that I should email the city council and tell them my opinion about regulation of AirBnb, which I wouldn't have had if not for that reddit post. Stuff like that is exactly why I visit Reddit - "news before it happens" as the frontpage used to say.

About once a month someone would start a meta-thread where the moderation came up for debate. There was an interesting pattern I noticed - a lot of the regular posters seemed opposed to the moderation and thought it was heavy-handed. There were people defending the moderation, but in almost every case if you looked at their accounts, they were brand new. In some cases just a few hours old. They also tended to use similar language, and reference events that happened years ago in /r/seattle drama. In one case an hours-old account referred to the mod team as "we". I thought that was a little strange.

In one of the meta-threads about moderation, I wrote a long post with a bunch of links and screenshots, detailing the links between all these brand-new accounts and mentioning how suspicious it was that so many brand-new accounts showed up to defend the moderators. My post got removed, with "doxxing" as the explanation. To be clear, there was no personal information of any kind in my post.

If you want to call it a witch-hunt instead of doxxing, then sure, maybe. But sometimes in a witch-hunt there's an actual witch. The main mod of one of the largest city-specific subreddits is breaking reddit rules by using alternate/sockpuppet accounts to attack his critics. I thought that was something worth posting and letting the rest of the community know about.

Then yesterday we had another meta-thread, except this one was a doozy. It linked to evidence that the head mod of /r/seattle was abusing mod powers for financial gain. It's a long screenshot but everyone should read it. The tl;dr is that someone commented in /r/Seattle advertising their property management business could help someone get set up as an AirBnb host. Normally that would get removed as spam, but in this case it showed up as an explicitly "approved submitter", approved by the controversial mod in question. Then in a private mod-only subreddit, that same mod admits the property management user is actually him, posting under an alt account. Then using his mod account to approve his other account so it wouldn't be subject to spam removal.

That also made me put 2 and 2 together about the removal of the Airbnb post I mentioned previously - the mod has a side business helping Airbnb, so there's a reason why he'd want to remove /r/Seattle posts critical of Airbnb. That's a pretty clear conflict of interest.

The thread with that info got around 700 upvotes in a couple of hours and apparently reached /r/all...before it was locked and deleted.

As a result of that thread, I got banned (for mentioning the evidence I had previously gathered that the mod in question attacks critics using sockpuppet accounts). Several other users were apparently banned, and also "muted" (meaning they can't modmail /r/seattle) for asking why they were banned.

One of the mods who had joined the mod team recently and who legitimately seemed to be trying to improve things got banned and removed from the moderators. He did a mini-AMA here.

As far as I know, where it stands now is that the admins are reviewing things, because they're the only ones (besides the founder of /r/seattle, who's apparently very inactive) who can remove the mod in question. If the allegations are true they're a pretty big breach of redditquette:

Do not...Take moderation positions in a community where your profession, employment, or biases could pose a direct conflict of interest to the neutral and user driven nature of reddit.

[–]eggpl4nt 686ポイント687ポイント  (80子コメント)

Shout-out to /r/SeattleWA, for any Washingtonians reading this (if I'm allowed to do that.) Every time there's a new drama with the head mod (which happens about once a month) we get a boost in subscribers. We just recently broke 1,000! :D

1,000 subscribers is a big deal because the head moderator puts any alternative Seattle subreddit in the AutoMod filter to remove them, even going so far as to add the phrase "add WA to this subreddit" to the remove list. Seriously, any Seattle or Washington subreddit that the head mod is not in control of is in the filter. He doesn't want people to know there are alternative subreddits, or places where people can talk about his behavior.

[–]IDoDash 222ポイント223ポイント  (58子コメント)

Seriously, any Seattle or Washington subreddit that the head mod is not in control of is in the filter. He doesn't want people to know there are alternative subreddits, or places where people can talk about his behavior.

I'm aware of most of the drama already, but this latest revelation strikes me as particularly fucked up. Just another example of how the users of /r/Seattle aren't allowed to make decisions for themselves on what they want to read, or what subreddits they want to frequent. Classic censorship by an overbearing mod. Even other mods are silenced...I hope the admins take action.

[–]CZtheDude 49ポイント50ポイント  (6子コメント)

Wow. The Democratic People's Republic of /r/Seattle.

[–]watchout5 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Considering the tech gentrification of the city recently it's kind of apt. Like, our city personified. One of the top posts ever is a "stupid lives matter" post. Juxtapose that to their first rule, "Bo Good". eye roll

[–]tehstone 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have been banned from /r/PyongyangSeattle.

[–]fre3k 64ポイント65ポイント  (49子コメント)

This is how most of reddit works. 😢

[–]IDoDash 41ポイント42ポイント  (45子コメント)

That's not been my experience anywhere other than in /r/Seattle.

[–]babypalms 28ポイント29ポイント  (5子コメント)

This also happened to r/makeupaddiction

[–]modaaa 24ポイント25ポイント  (4子コメント)

It was r/skincareaddiction. It was amazing to watch.

[–]Elladhan 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Any links or something?

[–]modaaa 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]AmazingKreiderman 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Damn, what a bunch of scumbags. I think that my favorite was how the mods posted that people should join at the new community that they created. Talk about providing the evidence yourself.

[–]MinistryOfSpeling 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

I got banned from /r/scifi for...I still don't know.

[–]HittingSmoke 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

My favorite ban to date is from /r/gamingpc for criticizing AMD's driver legacy policy which caused a huge clusterfuck with xorg and Linux kernel versions for users running cards that were still perfectly capable of playing modern games.

[–]myworkaccounttoday 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably pissed off the lowest mod on that list

[–]RazzBeryllium 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think it's fairly standard when a group of users disagree with mods and start their own subreddit. The "main" sub then proceeds to auto filter any mention of the new sub. They never really explain why (other than pettiness?)

I know it has happened in /r/LegalAdvice and /r/gameofthrones. I can't think of any others right now.

[–]OutofPlaceOneLiner 45ポイント46ポイント  (21子コメント)

[–]F1ynn 11ポイント12ポイント  (9子コメント)

Holy shit yes. R/politics has mutated into a circle jerk of candidates rather than actual politics

[–]Bonzalez 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

I mean this is the first time since Reddit was made that we've had an election where there was lots of fervent support for multiple candidates. That's to be expected.

[–]venn177 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not really. My evidence is fairly anecdotal, but it's only because you hear these stories that it seems that way. I've interacted with quite a few big mods who seem to be pretty alright people. You just don't hear about them. I mod fairly big subs, and have never had any complaints about censorship or anything.

The stories you hear about that are just cunts with power who want to lord over people. It's a stance that I absolutely can't stand, either. If anything, moderators should be doing their best to work for their communities, rather than anything the other way around.

[–]Weirfish 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mod a fairly small tabletop RPG subreddit (approaching 4k subs), and things are generally very quiet. Pretty much just checking reports/modqueue every now and then and making sure folk stay on topic. I tried active moderation for a while, but people really didn't seem fond of it. I reckon that the community's mostly self-moderating, but that might be a factor of the niche it's in.

[–]gimpwiz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most subs are cool. Most of us work hard to keep them cool.

[–]Highside79 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of the former moderators posted their automod settings. They had actually included all the alternate Seattle subreddits to be auto deleted and then banned the posters.

[–]MrCompletely 24ポイント25ポイント  (7子コメント)

amazing, such a similar thing happened in /r/gratefuldead and now we have /r/grateful_dead

idk if he got the automod thing going or not tho

reddit is weird

[–]hecubus452 39ポイント40ポイント  (2子コメント)

Power corrupts. Nothing weird about that. Regular users not having the ability to remove a corrupt mod who is damaging their community is weird.

[–]MrCompletely 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

yeah I just mean the mechanic of how it plays out on reddit specifically

great username btw, nice to see you out of the pit of ultimate darkness

[–]hecubus452 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I get some fresh air when Simon is busy taking a power nap in his coffin :p

[–]qype_dikir 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

What happened there?

[–]MrCompletely 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally abusive lead mod who used his powers to punish and berate anyone who disagreed with or stood up to him. Typical cheap drama.

[–]Quiznasty 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thank you for posting this. I had not heard about this site sub until I saw this thread. I would love to see an alternative grow.

[–]jaymzx0 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just subscribed. I've never had an issue with the /r/Seattle mods since I just lurk, but it's always nice to have an alt sub.

[–]watchout5 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's really a controlled content environment in /r/Seattle . Unless something is covered by a major paper you're probably not seeing the information there anymore. There was that big fight not too long ago about Town Hall and how people who speak at the non-profit venue sell books so therefor we can't have posts about a local non-profit venue having events. It's not really representative of what happens around Seattle

[–]Highside79 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem is that they limit news to only things that are sourced by a media source (therefore defeating one of the core purposes of reddit). They also curate the content with a real bias towards nimbyism and really anything that pumps property values. Not a huge surprise given that the moderator in question is a real estate agent, BnB agent, and uses the sub to push his business while banning even the vaguest of promotion for anything else (including things like events and concerts).

[–]bioemerl 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

what's the reddit position on using a bot to PM all the users in that sub with a link to the other subreddit?

[–]elfa82 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's considered spam and will get the bot and possibly the bot maker banned sitewide.

[–]watchout5 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'll reach out to individuals if we see they're having a problem and that's how I found the circlejerk page. Someone was kind enough to message me.

[–]YopparaiNeko 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's considered spam and you will be suspended.

[–]egypturnash 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Directed here from a post on /r/Seattle talking about deletions, glad to know about /r/seattlewa now. So yay.

[–]toadofsteel 214ポイント215ポイント  (28子コメント)

Do not...Take moderation positions in a community where your profession, employment, or biases could pose a direct conflict of interest to the neutral and user driven nature of reddit

Welp, guess I'll never mod /r/nfl...

[–]tron_funkin_blow 70ポイント71ポイント  (13子コメント)

Are you actually Rodger Goodell?

[–]sanfilippo237 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

goodell is a toad of steel.

[–]toadofsteel 38ポイント39ポイント  (7子コメント)

No, just a giants fan that would ban every eagles fan except maybe elder sproles...

[–]blockobloxFlair? I want flair! 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hey hey hey, the Eagles fans provide welcome jokes at the expense of others. Banning them would make /r/nfl even less fun.

[–]disgustipated 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

Please, keep the Eagles fans... it's all us Browns fan have to make fun of.

[–]toughbutworthit 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sooooo how's the 40th year of Stockholm syndrome treatin ya?

[–]disgustipated 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

40? C'mon, it's only been about 25 years since The Drive and The Fumble.

[–]IranianGeniusi mod stuff 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

#BradyLivesMatter

[–]Javad0g 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Announcer voice

"HOLY MACKEREL! You heard it from the genius right here folks! We will be right back!"

cue Mutual Of Omaha commercial

[–]CaseyAndWhatNot 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]Vesploogie 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my god why does he not do their commercials.

Mutual of OMAHAAAAAA sponsored by Peyton Manning

[–]Trapline 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

That's funny because I am a mod for /r/nfl and read that thinking I need to resign or something.

[–]craker42 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hey Rodger, FUCK YOU! Sincerely, New England.

[–]rabidfurby 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Maybe if your QB could control his balls better without worrying so much about their firmness...

[–]cleantoe 177ポイント178ポイント  (33子コメント)

Yeah I ran into that mod a few weeks back.

There is this pretty dope Blue Scholars (a local rap group from Seattle) remix that I wanted to share, and the post got removed.

Apparently, /r/Seattle "is not for remixes of Seattle-area artists". He also got angry I cross-posted it to /r/SeattleWA.

The entire exchange was pretty baffling. Here was our conversation.

Edit: For those curious, here is the song I posted: Blue Scholars - Inkwell (remix)

[–]ImportantOpinions 54ポイント55ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you tried continuing the conversation, you'd likely be muted.

[–]OursIsGold 39ポイント40ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly surprised he got that far. Mods are abusing the shit out of the mute function.

[–]pandaSmore 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit that guy is a massive hypocrite.

[–]1stchairlastcall 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Especially hilarious given the "discussion about Seattle" that was the post about Macklemore throwing Dick's into the crowd at Bumbershoot just a few days ago. Should have been banned for promoting delicious burgers....

[–]SmashingCabbages 26ポイント27ポイント  (6子コメント)

Blue Scholars deserve the fame that Macklemore got.

[–]Spostman 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

I talked to them a bit at summer meltdown and I don't think they share this sentiment. Their music may deserve it but after thinking about it a lot more, I'm pretty glad that they didn't get that famous. I don't really want to hear their music in commercials. I didn't flat out ask them how they felt about Macklemore but Geo didn't really seem comfortable talking about it either.

[–]MediocreMatt 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Listening to my first Blue Scholars song right now, is the comparison just because they are both from Washington? Is there beef or did they used to perform together?

[–]Spostman 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Macklemore probably used to feel lucky getting gigs opening for them around the town. Lets just put it that way. They helped launch his career just by playing so many shows with him. They're great lyrical hip-hop and I highly recommend all their albums, though, a lot of the lyrics do refer to day to day life in Seattle.

[–]MediocreMatt 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ohhh awesome. I'll listen to some of their music then, thanks for some of the backstory.

[–]billthejim 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know much of the history behind it, but they have a song "Tommy Chong" together, and geo remixed macklemore's "the town" as well

[–]Ninjaboi333 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh man Blue Scholars are the shit

[–]sjt112486 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

That makes zero sense to me.

[–]Spostman 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Can you please post that song?!?

[–]cleantoe 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]Letmefixthatforyouyo 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuckin a. This is excellent Seattle specific music. A rolling array of Seattle references, backed by a Seattle rock track, by a Seattle artist. This is exactly what one asshole is stopping 90k people from experiencing.

[–]Spostman 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just listened to 28 seconds of that song and I'm already commenting to say thank you! God damn!

[–]DarkSmarts 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would think music would kinda count as a "current event," but maybe Im wrong.

[–]watchout5 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Music videos are satan to /r/Seattle . It's because of all the money you make off our clicks. eye roll

[–]AAA1374 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

I mean, that makes sense to a degree, but it's still a dick move and attitude.

[–]centurijon 31ポイント32ポイント  (6子コメント)

Not really. What qualifies as "news and current events"? Pretty much anything.

[–]blacknwhitelitebrite 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Eh, I wouldn't consider a link to a song as a current event or news. I can kind of see the mod's point on this one.

[–]cleantoe 35ポイント36ポイント  (3子コメント)

He also accused me of being a member of Blue Scholars and posting the song for promotional purposes.

And I mean the name of the subreddit is /r/Seattle. How stupid is it if you're not allowed to post homegrown music from Seattle?

[–]AAA1374 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not advocating his actions or his behavior or attitude. I'm simply stating that if the rules state that there's nothing but news and events, then he was by all accounts, allowed to remove your post. Do I agree with that being a rule or enjoy his attitude? Definitely not, but still- he wasn't technically in the wrong. Just an ass.

[–]Letmefixthatforyouyo 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

The subreddit is full of sunset pics, dog pics, drug dealers on my corner threads(neither news or an event), and had a recent thread about mackelmore throwing dicks burgers into a crowd (barely news, barely an event). He once declined a thread about a Glenn Greenwald (of Snowden fame) giving a speech in a local auditorium, a week or so after allowing a thread about Neil degrass Tyson giving a speech in the same place. Glenn was both News and Events, and yet here we go, with it closed.

The rules are applied at this one guys whim, over and over again, for years. There is no rhythm or reason to it.

[–]AAA1374 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like this guy needs his diaper checked.

[–]aussie_angeleno 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can imagine a future where we are only allowed to post Seattle sunsets /sarcasm

[–]FekketCantenelyou are all my brothers and sisters 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

My post got removed, with "doxxing" as the explanation.

I had that happen to me once before while researching an editor on Wikipedia making suspiciously biased posts. Once I reported my findings to mods (on a special mod page, not the talk page or anywhere else very obvious), I heard very little about the perp and mostly about how I had been 'doxxing' them by googling their username.

[–]Marthman 38ポイント39ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn, this is like front page material. Good shit mayn.

The corruption is real.

[–]CalvinLawson 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup, can confirm. I've been on reddit for 8 years now (!?!!), and been a member of r/Seattle for most of that. I unsubscribed a few months ago because everything about that sub has gone to shit. Garbage in/garbage out.

I suspect there's going to be a major turnover in moderation soon, but until that happens I'm steering clear.

[–]Im1Guy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty new to Reddit and live in Seattle. I join the Seattle sub. I didn't know about any of the mod drama. I had my own experience with the careless and couldn't believe it. I looked a little deeper and found out that I wasn't the only one with a bad experience. I unsubscribed and won't go back till careless is gone. I'm glad we have r/SeattleWA now.

[–]isiramteal 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

Should also mention that the moderator in question is also the top moderator of /r/aww, which adds to the question if the admins would even consider banning the mod since they also mod the 13th most subscribed subreddit.

[–]Drigr 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

They banned Unidan... So I can definitely see it happening, since what he did was nowhere near this bad.

[–]rattus 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Clearly the supply of cute animal pictures would dry up without him.

[–]AmericanDerp 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one person is of any importance in modding a sub THAT narrowly focused. Their head mod there any day is disposable.

[–]FFSnipe 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder what he actually does in aww. with all those mods, probably nothing. he seems like the type of person to just sit on the top mod spot and do nothing on his throne (other than be an asshat).

[–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would you call it the battle for /r/seattle?

[–]pie-man 11ポイント12ポイント  (28子コメント)

if its such a shitshow, why not just create a seatle2.0 sub?

[–]eggpl4nt 99ポイント100ポイント  (22子コメント)

It has been tried many, many times. The most successful has been /r/SeattleWA, but before that one there have been many attempts at an alternative that fell flat.

The reason why they all fall flat is because the second one is created, any discussion about it is banned in /r/Seattle as soon as the head mod knows about it.

For instance, here is a snippet from the /r/Seattle AutoMod config, a list of subreddits that are automatically removed if mentioned (and everything else too, not gonna edit irrelevant stuff out:)

reddit.com/r/circlejerkseattle, profootball366.com, 957kjr.com, 957thejet.com, reddit.com/r/SeattleUncensored, reddit.com/r/circlejerkcascadia, 4chan.org, movetoseattle.org, reddit.com/r/Seattle_WA, reddit.com/r/seattle_dev1, movoto.com, reddit.com/r/SeattleForUs, reddit.com/r/BraveryJerkSeattle, reddit.com/r/SeattleSucks, reddit.com/r/SeattleWA, reddit.com/r/SeattleSansMods, reddit.com/r/SeattleUncut, reddit.com/r/altSeattle, reddit.com/r/newseattle, reddit.com/r/CityOfGreen, reddit.com/r/GreaterSeattle, canarydelivers.com, reddit.com/r/seattleitap, reddit.com/r/seattlesunsets, reddit.com/r/SeattleRemovals, SeattleGABLounge, reddit.com/r/undeleteseattle, reddit.com/r/SeaFriends, reddit.com/r/seattleregressives, ihateseattle.com. reddit.com/r/SeattleProper, MysteriousDev.com, /r/SeattleRebooted, reddit.com/r/SeattleRebooted, /r/CityOfSeattle, reddit.com/r/CityOfSeattle, reddit.com/r/moderatormalfeasance, /r/moderatormalfeasance, /m/multiseattle, reddit.com/user/eggpl4nt/m/multiseattle, rootsrated.com, b-townblog.com, wojdylosocialmedia.com, reddit.com/r/seattleparody, sweetandsavoring.com, /r/SeattleQuestions, /r/askseattle, /r/crosscut, /r/FoodSeattle, shs282.com, /r/seattlespew, /r/SeattleBicycleDrama, northwestfront.org, uknewstips.org, r/seattletransplants, imgur.com/a/EP02X, seattlepicayune.com, jeffreifman.com, insurancetight.com, shitduke, /r/SeattleSubreddits, /r/SeattleSucks, /r/SeattleUnmoderated, theregistryps.com, movingtoseattle, r/casualseattle, seattlerefined.com, seattlepicayune.com /r/SeattleUnderground, /r/MetaSeattle/, voat.co/v/seattle, greenlakewalking.net, /r/shittyaskseattle, /r/SeattleNews, /r/roastseattle, /r/seattleshitshow, seattleshitshow, CityofGreen, TrueSeattle, AskSeattle

action: spam

action_reason: Removed - post w/ banned domains

There's the same type of AutoMod action that checks any submission or comment for the above.

[–]pandaSmore 37ポイント38ポイント  (9子コメント)

Someone should make a script that PMs /r/seattle subscribers. I'm sure everyone already knows about that sub now though with the drama.

[–]IDoDash 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

Someone should make a script that PMs /r/seattle subscribers.

That would be cool.

[–]Spostman 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh. Say anything pro-mod in that subreddit and people will pm you anyway. I have bigger issues with the mods of /r/mariners than I do /r/seattle, but I don't exactly post a ton on either board nor do I make a real attempt to follow drama. I will say that I generally find Seattle's front page both relevant and informative. It's not exactly an easy job and I think a lot of the critical people would not be able to properly assume that type of responsibility, themselves. That being said, there does seem to be an increasingly more frequent problem regarding censorship and that screenshot convo seems pretty damning that the rules don't work both ways.

[–]MagnusRune 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

but you cant id subs of a sub.. it could pm everyone who has every posted in the sub. but that may not be everyone.

[–]NeoShweaty 35ポイント36ポイント  (7子コメント)

Jesus. Why does anyone care so much if they have the r/Seattle subreddit already which is by default going to be the first place anyone goes?

[–]FuckedByCrap 54ポイント55ポイント  (3子コメント)

The main mod in there wants the power to ban users from ever being able to see any other Seattle subs in order to remain the top Seattle sub where he can get off on punishing people and using his position for financial gain.

[–]bantha_poodoo 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can Reddit admins do anything about this?

[–]V2Blasttotally loopy 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mods are allowed to run their subreddits however they want, as long as they don't violate the sitewide content policy.

That said, the whole "using his position for financial gain" is kind of a violation of it, so the admins might do something about that.

[–]watchout5 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The last time I emailed them it was about his supporting a racist atmosphere and the admins basically said mods of these subs are allowed to do anything they want. I'm not sure if they'll treat financial gain any higher but they didn't care.

[–]watchout5 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

He goes around town using that + his mod at /r/aww to pick up chicks.

[–]AnalgesicSex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably because there's money in being a mod of a large sub if you're willing to bend your morals a bit and have an interested party.

[–]AvsJoeMore likely to ask a question than provide an answer 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

imgur.com/a/EP02X

Okay, I'm curious.

Edit: Aww, 404.

[–]aussie_angeleno 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thx - I went & joined a few of those.

[–]rabidfurby 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why not both? /r/SeattleWA is a thing. However, network effects are hard to overcome. The existing sub has ~80k subscribers (it was the second-largest of the city subreddits, per capita, last time I saw the stats).

So it makes sense to both fork off a new sub, but at the same time try to take it back from the asshole who hijacked it. Due to what is arguably a bug in reddit's moderator policies, a rogue mod like that is very difficult for anyone other than the admins to do anything about.

[–]YopparaiNeko 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

It also doesn't help that if you google seattle reddit, SeattleWA doesn't show up at all.

[–]Drigr 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a replacement sub to gain traction if the old one is still usable? No amount of corruption is going to get 90% of users to leave the main sub.

[–]sour_creme 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fun fact: /r/Seattle sister city is /r/pyongyang

comment replyWhat's the deal with /r/Seattle? from V2Blast[M] via /r/OutOfTheLoop sent 57 minutes ago show parent Your comment has been removed because it violates rule 3: 3. Top level comments must contain a genuine and unbiased attempt at an answer

[–]Ryuuki 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Time to enail the admins?

[–]JonasBrosSuck 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

pm'd admins a few days ago... doesn't seem like anything's gonna happen

[–]emodius 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Amazing writeup. I hope they make you the lead mod and ban that pos. Very well written. I feel like I truly understand your side of this.

[–]exoxe 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man, fuck Seattle then! Er... I mean fuck /r/Seattle! Seattle itself is pretty cool. Hope things get settled on the subreddit.

[–]MagnusRune 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do not...Take moderation positions in a community where your profession, employment, or biases could pose a direct conflict of interest to the neutral and user driven nature of reddit.

why have i not seen this before! this could be used to remove people squatting on subreddits surly?

[–]V2Blasttotally loopy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope. Reddiquette (and moddiquette) is just a set of guidelines, not rules.

[–]Galaxy_Ranger_Bob 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My post got removed, with "doxxing" as the explanation. To be clear, there was no personal information of any kind in my post.

I've seen a trend on all of reddit where the word "doxxing" is used if a reddit poster has their alt account "outed" as belonging to them.

[–]Toy_Cop 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find most city subreddits have shitty mods and even shittier people. /r/toronto is a fine example of this asshattery.

edit: autocorrect

[–]beren0250 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for this, and fuck /r/seattle, and fuck reddit.com

[–]MattyOlyOi 636ポイント637ポイント  (62子コメント)

From what I gathered a mod there has been using alternate accounts to promote their personal business, and trash-talking competitor's businesses.

Users trying to expose that mod used tactics that bordered on doxing, giving the mod an excuse to crack down on them?

Edit Apparently dude also has a habit of stalking women from the sub and banning them when they confront him about it. Gross.

Edit For the sake of accuracy he was trash talking a roofing business who's employee pissed him off, not a competing real-estate business.

[–]tanioshi 56ポイント57ポイント  (5子コメント)

Also important, this particular mod is anal about removing any content that might even suggest promotion of business. People talking about new restaurants opening, local businesses, etc have had their posts removed or worse by him as a result of the vaguely enforced rule 6.

[–]horsenbuggy 28ポイント29ポイント  (4子コメント)

What else are you supposed to talk about on a local subreddit?

[–]watchout5 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

No talk. Only sunset pictures.

[–]Orleanian 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Turning on headlights during overcast/rainy days.

[–]s3rila 40ポイント41ポイント  (6子コメント)

from what I understand , he was already a controversial mod before the the revelation of his self promotion.

Can anyone explain what is bad in his modding habbit? why do users not like him and dox him before that ?

[–]MattyOlyOi 72ポイント73ポイント  (2子コメント)

Stalking women and being a creep at meet-ups seems to be a common claim against him, as well as unnecessary bannings.

[–]yeeeeeehaaaw 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hmm, seems like a reoccurring theme in the PNW subs. /r/Portland just had a similar melt down with a mod a month or two ago.

[–]msgsquared 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or maaaybe, dons tinfoil hat, ERT packed up shop and moved north after he was ousted.

[–]isiramteal 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

The main complaint is Rule 6, which states "We're a community, not a bulletin board or marketplace. You may not use us to increase the popularity, profit, or market presence of a personal project. Advertising info for /r/Seattle." They've been using that as an excuse to remove anything they don't like, even if Seattle related.

Uses automod to 'shadowban' users by essentially setting up /u/automoderator to secretly remove comments and posts from specific users, all without telling the affected party. You can view the leaked automod config here.

Very rude and condescending towards subscribers if they even dare to criticize the mod.

Let a fellow mod take the fall for a decision that they made. A post was made about Glenn Greenwald coming to Seattle to give a speech event, then the question was asked why that post removed but a post about Neil deGrasse Tyson come to Seattle to give a speech was allowed to stay up. The response given was that Tyson is a 'reddit icon' (verbatim).

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh no, he tells you that its a glitch.

http://imgur.com/a/4Rk85

[–]ExtraNoise 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This happened to me as well.

[–]shadowsong42 238ポイント239ポイント  (25子コメント)

I was banned for doxxing about a month ago, although I did no such thing: I commented with a link to a fake subreddit. Someone then created that subreddit and spammed it with links to the mod's dox.

Apparently because I don't comment much in the seattle sub, I am obviously a sockpuppet of the doxxer. Even though I have a four-year commenting and post history that bears no resemblance whatsoever to the comment and post history of the doxxer.

Told the mod it wasn't me, let him know that I deleted my original comment, asked what he would like me to do to show that I wasn't a sock puppet.... Still banned.

[–]HeyCarpy 163ポイント164ポイント  (4子コメント)

I commented with a link to a fake subreddit. Someone then created that subreddit and spammed it with links to the mod's dox.

That's ... diabolical. Wow.

[–]Vesploogie 103ポイント104ポイント  (3子コメント)

Probably the mod himself.

[–]xedrites 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

...You should write the next Bourne movie.

[–]obsessedwithhippos 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Bourne doxxing legacy supremacy identity.

In theaters summer 2017.

[–]CeilingUnlimited 15ポイント16ポイント  (14子コメント)

Sorry, what is doxxing?

[–]watershot 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

linking someone's online account to identifying real life personal info

[–]Cannabisitis 29ポイント30ポイント  (9子コメント)

Publishing personal details (name, address, phone number, employer) of someone online.

Here's a good example of why that's almost always a bad idea.

[–]njayhuang 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Posting someone's private personal information online

[–]chamclouder 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was also banned for doxxing when I posted "Jennys" number of 867-5309....

[–]NuclearWasteland 34ポイント35ポイント  (5子コメント)

Seattle talking about how awesome Seattle is yet actively trying to keep people out? Yeah, sounds like Seattle.

[–]MattyOlyOi 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

Was this a response to a different comment in a different thread and you posted it here by accident? Or are you having a stroke?

[–]Raudskeggr 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is just ridiculous. Is he new to reddit, CV or the internet? How often has it worked out well for mods or subreddits before when they tried thinngs line this?

I'm not sure how he thinks he's going to gain.

[–]Letmefixthatforyouyo 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

He is not new, just this toxic. /r/seattle has been dealing with his heavy handed shit for years now.

[–]Nelsonius1 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Has the corrupt mod replied to this thread yet?

[–]LSatyreD[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, not unless he's using an alt account at least.

[–]rattus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The silence has been deafening. Apparently they're busy organizing an IRL meetup of the /r/seattle high council of real estate and promotion affiliates.