So. This'll be a strange conversation, lol.
I'm conflicted. I saw the subreddit trending, checked it out. Read the Vox article that got the whole thing trending. Was skeptical, loosened some of my skepticism. The guy in charge isn't bagging on feminism, and he's trying to make a positive change. And, to my mind, he's saying some good things. When I read what he had to say, I was reminded of "The New Jim Crow," when Michelle Alexander talked about how and why the movement stalled. Continuing to focus on racism instead of poverty -- fighting the same fight, not worrying about poor whites -- strangled the movement's momentum. The reactionary movement took over and we have the world that we have now, still segregated and and still suppressing black people. That's simplified. But maybe there's something here? This seems like it's getting more men into the discussion, trying to promote complexity as an argument, dealing with the realities of gender roles as best they can. I haven't spent much time there. But if we can unite as people to deal with serious inequalities within society -- even if it's not wholly under the term feminist, then I'd be happy.
I do have some reservations, however. The first: in the Vox article, the founder of the /r/MensLib subreddit seemed to be equivocating feminism and MRA-ness as two sides of the same coin -- finding a false middle, in a sense -- which I strongly disagree with. The second goes with the first: women are treated much more poorly in society than men, in terms of more oppressive gender roles, harassment, sexual crimes, etc. What I'm worried about is that by focusing on MensLib so much, they won't involve female voices, and feminists texts, and Women's problems within society. Basically, erasure. And that does more to harm gender equality than it does to serve it. Not to mention, complexity in a subreddit? That's very hard to keep up. Considering the influx of subscribers, I'm worried that the sub will flounder with too much crappy anti-intellectualism and low-key misogyny, and not enough moderation.
Still, I'm cautiously optimistic with the whole thing. I subbed to /r/MensLib and I'll see how it turns out. I think it might be a good place to come together with people who are willing to learn; and maybe I'll learn something, too.
Of course, I've read a couple feminist texts (currently going through bell hooks' stuff!) but I'm just a regular person, and not particularly involved with the feminist movement in terms of activism or regular discussion. What do you people think? Despite this long post and subbing to /r/MensLib, I feel pretty conflicted over the whole thing, and I'd love to get some serious opinions.
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