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[–]Paris Saint-Germainshakira11 106ポイント107ポイント  (20子コメント)

This is silly. If you have difficulties with the "new" queue then just get more moderators

"If you could clone a player 10 times, what player would make the best overall team?"

"What would be your favorite XI of left-footed players under 5'9", none of whom natively speak the language of the country in which they play?"

"Can a player shape his hair in the shape of a bowl and put the ball in there and carry it down the field and score?"

"DAE think Messi actually sux?"

"What club has the worst supporters?"

"Why did Pepe just get red-carded for that?"

"Did anyone see that cool move Hazard made?"

These type of posts get removed anyways so it's not like it's a big difference

Even some of the more dull and repetitive questions still get discussion because people don't always see them the first 5 times they are posted. And it's not like self posts always get high karma, most of the time they get downvoted or they have very low votes + high comments.

These megathreads are useless, sometimes it is worth seeing a random question in between the news of Pogba or Raiola or whatever Italian journalist is talking about Manchester United

[–]Truro CitySwedishTurnip 30ポイント31ポイント  (17子コメント)

Yeah I always like looking through the new queue when I'm bored, it can spark interesting questions and even the shitposts are fun from time to time. I had a chuckle earlier about that guy asking about baseball and caps or something.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 21ポイント22ポイント  (15子コメント)

But that's just the problem, isn't it? People think shitposts are "funny", which encourages more shitposts, which lowers the overall quality of the subreddit.

[–]Chelseafiveht78 33ポイント34ポイント  (5子コメント)

Frankly, I don't think shitposts are this sub's biggest issue right now. We can hang onto jokes/memes a little too long at times, but at least I can skip through the silliness if it gets boring. I'm far more annoyed at the toxicity in the match threads of certain teams (and note: not just Chelsea, I think the one for the Arsenal-Spurs return leg was an atrocity for example), and the faction driven, almost feudal sparring that can happen here at times: Americans vs Europeans, local vs satellite supporters, etc.

Not trying to change your mind, just offering a different perspective. Besides, while I'll admit I don't like the idea, I'm never against trying something new. Go for it.

[–]Sunderlandwonderfuladventure[🍰] 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you take away my right to abuse Americans then I quit the sub.

Nah I'm joking, great point here. Post/pre/current match threads can get so busy that only memes, jokes and abuse get upvoted to the top and only a few points of discussion break through. Then you browse the thread by new and you see narrow minded people just abusing the other team needlessly. Don't know how to combat it. Worst case IMO was Arsenal Stoke this year, all the Arsenal fans calling Stoke fans orcs.. Was just unpleasant for everyone

[–]Hibernian78523985212369874 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Meh, tribalism is a big part of football culture you can't expect it to disappear just because were on the internet

[–]Chelseafiveht78 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't want it to disappear, I think banter in general is fine and the roast threads are great, but there's a line that's crossed when it becomes mean spirited especially when trotting out the same more-than-half-wrong stereotypes over and over again

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[–]Manchester UnitedDARIF 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hardcore football fan culture has already been gentrified. Football chants are part of this alleged hardcore culture but the vast majority of them are just as unfunny and witty as banter and roast threads.

[–]Sunderlandwonderfuladventure[🍰] 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I understand where you're coming from here, but sometimes I'm browsing /r/soccer/new in early morning GMT when there's not a lot of news and there's only been 2 or 3 posts in the last 2 or 3 hours.

I'd personally rather have a few lower quality threads just to chat with folk about football (even if sometimes it's "what is better euros or copa"). I'd rather a sub with some shitposts than an empty sub. It forces me to goto other subreddits which I don't like doing

[–]Southend Unitedstu_25 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The amount of threads which get removed on here is awful.

I thought this was a discussion site, some are branded off topic, most of them are not.

[–]FC Schalke 04Masterkid1230 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well I mean, if you want to comment on that kind of posts, you can go to the Questions thread. It's not like they'll be removing quality self-posts like when people analyse a team for the following season, when they provide interesting and insightful stats or when they send a letter to the 92 top teams of English football. They're removing the average "DAE Müller so quirky?"

[–]Liverpoolgrympy 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh, as if...

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

You might think I'm being silly but it's true. I wish I had some solid examples to give you of some of the shitposts that received a few dozen votes really quickly and all of the comments were about how bad the post is and how that is funny.

[–]Independiente MedellínSkyBluePanda 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

The example is when the mods took Christmas off one year and the sub was filled with shitposts.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]River PlateKensaiVG 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I will never look at you the same way again.

For the record, I love you now.

[–]JuventusSebSarno 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

See not all shitposts are that bad. A lot of them are opinion based questions, and they can spark a huge debate, leading to funny comments, or actually debates and conversation. I have a few posts that are a while back that seemed like 'another stupid opinion' question that ended up with 75+ comments, sometimes 100+. People like to discuss opinions and argue over stupid shit sometimes.

[–]AC MilanRossoneri 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

So instead of looking through the new queue, now you can just sort the questions thread by new.

[–]AC MilanRossoneri 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is silly. If you have difficulties with the "new" queue then just get more moderators

These type of posts get removed anyways so it's not like it's a big difference

Pick one. You can't say we need more moderators and then tell us that the posts get removed anyway. Plus I don't think more mods is an appropriate response to shitposting, the appropriate response would be for people to stop shitposting. They're the ones who ruined it for you.

[–]Paris Saint-Germainshakira11 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean that those posts get removed already, the examples in the OP were bad. But if the problem gets worse with this new karma-update, then you get more moderators.

The bigger problem is the people who make stupid comments in every thread. They wouldn't be shitposts if people did not write the same stupid comments every time. Then you have the alt accounts, the agenda posters, the trolls that make /r/soccer worse...not someone posting questions.

/r/soccer is already filled with gifs during the season, and now there is no football you want it filled with news that is repetitive all the time. I know this is just a trial but I do hope that it fails...I just find it silly how the OP wants healthy/intelligent discussion and then the most commented post every day is one where people make the SAME jokes about every Premier League team

[–]HungarythenotoriousDK 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anyone get an answer for that hair bowl question? If not its all good il just make a thread.

[–]wnegron9 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the only use for fellani that I can think of

[–]Athletic ClubZikerz 123ポイント124ポイント  (31子コメント)

This is unnecessary.

[–]Bayern MünchenDictarium 60ポイント61ポイント  (5子コメント)

I see no problem with a daily discussion thread. Nobody fucking gets to read any of those question posts because they're almost all downvoted immediately. What's wrong with giving them a better platform for discussion?

[–]ILoveDomeFromGirls 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

They need to just make it a daily discussion on the topic like /r/hhh does.

[–]Bayern MünchenDictarium 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean essentially that's what it is. It's just that now they have a reason to remove the garbage "dae Arsenal sucked today" shit that would crop up if it was pure daily discussion.

[–]Arsenalcowboysfan88 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

They don't need to be daily but having them weekly like some other sports subs isn't a bad idea imo

[–]Sunderlandwonderfuladventure[🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that's even worse

[–]WatfordBell_Whiff 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

There's a post on the front page, "Please sir! Can I have my ball back?" which has actually been the best self post I've ever seen on this sub. The stories in there are fantastic, the wave of nostalgia was great and it was a real feel good thread.

Would that now be banned under these new rules? It's a shame, if it is.

[–]FeyenoordBasedStroopwafel 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, but we can't have a fun thread that's not a gif or a transfer rumour now can we?

[–]Denmarkadokretz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That thread was amazing for those of us who actually play football in real life. No rude comments or memes or anything, just a lot of footy fans sharing stories and remembering the simple times...

[–]Manchester UnitedWizardsAndDucks 36ポイント37ポイント  (28子コメント)

I think it may be better if we try it without the thread, then implement it if the sub gets shitty. It seems too early to say that shitposts will increase because of this change to karma. I think it will make the subreddit feel so much less human with every post having to be some sort of goal or transfer news, I really enjoy browsing the "shitposts" on new when I'm bored as they can often make a fun conversation out of a slow news day, that post about playing football with friends as a kid was very enjoyable and brought back memories, I don't want the sub to be rid of those types of posts. I'm just really against making such monumental decisions due to presumptions.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (27子コメント)

We've already received an absurd amount of complaints about how bad questions have gotten and we've been considering implementing something like this for a while now. The karma for self-posts thing was just the final straw.

[–]Internazionalealitheboss55 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

How come Nick only has nice announcements ?

[–]Crystal PalaceNickTM 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because I'm a coward and don't want to have to announce anything controversial?

But no, I was just offline all yesterday and this morning. For some reason I slept from half ten yesterday until two today. No idea why. I would have been involved if I'd been awake.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was probably the most vocal mod in favor of this new policy, so it only made sense that I be the one to announce it. Plus people already generally hate me anyway so if this was going to garner any more hate it might as well go to me.

[–]Internazionalealitheboss55 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

tbh what you're doing is disgusting, have your friend Erdogan stage a coup which takes the life of 300 people, have him fire the entire country and become a dictator so he distracts the world and you get with what you're doing, not even Hitler would have the audacity to do something like that.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The /r/soccer secret police are currently on their way to your location. Please do not resist.

[–]Internazionalealitheboss55 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

In all my life I have never seen such an awful and power hungry ruler who's willing to torture his subjects the way you do

and I lived under saddam Hussein

[–]Manchester CityG3G123 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sub needs to define itself. The way I see it, the main type of posts on here are news on the off-season and during the season. But if this place is just called r/soccer, why would you blame people for trying to start discussion about the game itself (not players)? It would really help if you maybe changed the name to r/soccernews or direct people to where they can talk about their personal experiences with the game.

[–]FlamengoDarkNightSeven 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

What kind of questions are going to be allowed as self-posts? According to this, basically none?

[–]Arsenal9jack9 -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

basically none?

I think that's how it has to be done. Otherwise we get into the slippery slope of determining "quality".

If people are simply looking for information then a daily thread is not going to affect that, they'll still get an answer.

If people are using questions as a vehicle to promote discussion/debate then there are lots of other ways to do that. Most of the time they already have their own opinion and should probably just post that instead.

[–]Bayern MünchenDictarium 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

How subjective is the line between thought provoking opinion piece that asks a few questions and a question thread?

[–]Arsenal9jack9 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fairly wide I would say. If you've bothered to type in your own points of view but finish with a couple of talking points then I would hope that it wouldn't be interpreted as a question. We have discussed that scenario.

[–]Sunderlandwonderfuladventure[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think there's certain kinds of questions, the ones that get a few hundred upvotes, that work really well as self posts. Can't think of good examples currently but sometimes really great discussion (about tactics, formations etc.) can be provoked that just wouldn't quite work in the limited capacity of a questions thread.

I personally hate it when people actually include their own opinion within the self post. They aren't trying to provoke discussion, they just want everyone to see their opinion. If you decide to revert this decision then I think questions threads should be forced to put their own opinions into a comment, because then their thread will get upvoted/downvoted depending on their opinion and so many people will just respond to criticise OP rather than offer what they would have answered the question with.

Also when they word it as "what would Ronaldo have to do to be seen as good as Messi?" Just blatantly inserting their opinion into the title. The worst.

[–]JuventusSebSarno 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

A lot of people come here to mess about and converse over these 'dumb' or 'opinionated' questions. I feel like this sub would get horrendously dry if it were just a bunch of reports and transfer rumors. You'd pretty much be Bleacher Report 2.0 if you take away the fun aspect of it. It'd get stale very fast.

[–]Paris Saint-Germainbulgarian_zucchini 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A-men. What utter garbage. I like talking shit about why Messi's sleeve tattoo makes him look like a meth dealer from Kansas. wtf!

[–]Indy ElevenTheChosenJuan99 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

This sort of thing works really well in the form of /r/HipHopHeads' daily discussion threads. Hopefully it works here.

[–]Bayern Münchenscholoy 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly. So many people on here who are against it for no reason.

[–]FeyenoordBasedStroopwafel 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nearly all the opponents are giving reasons.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I suspect most of the people against this change don't ever actually post or participate in question threads unless they actually make it to the front page. I bet 90% of users don't even notice the policy change at all, and the ones that do will actually like it. Today's thread is going really well. Genuine questions with genuine answers and intelligent discussion.

[–]Paris Saint-Germainbulgarian_zucchini 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is ridiculous. I like those threads the most. I love jousting with people and discussing pub type of questions. If I want a news feed of transfer gossip, I go read the Sun. This rule needs to be reversed.

And yes, I want to know if a player can shape his hair in the shape of a bowl and carry the ball across the field.

[–]Liverpoolturkishbacon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please don't read that shit. There are other terrible sources to get juicy gossip from that aren't immoral pieces of garbage

[–]Swindon Townvic6566 18ポイント19ポイント  (11子コメント)

Leave it and let the upvotes and downvotes decide.

[–]Bayern MünchenDictarium 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

This doesn't work tho as demonstrated by the Christmas period a few years ago

[–]FeyenoordBasedStroopwafel 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

A mod posted a shitposts in that period so that really isn't a good example

[–]Bayern MünchenDictarium 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

Doesn't really change the point. If there were no mods and this place was run purely by upvotes it would be garbage.

[–]FeyenoordBasedStroopwafel 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Of course we need mods. But this is an unnecessary change, this sub is doing fine, but now something that is well liked by many users is being taken away. The backlash should show that this isn't a good choice.

[–]Bayern MünchenDictarium 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

There is no real backlash. Th thread today went perfectly fine

[–]FeyenoordBasedStroopwafel 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

There's a shit load of backlash dude, have you been reading this thread?

[–]Bayern MünchenDictarium 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Again, the question thread today went off very well. If it was a problem, you'd think there'd be a problem in it. There wasn't. These people are clearly a vocal minority

[–]FeyenoordBasedStroopwafel 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The question thread also went largely unnoticed, it didn't even hit the front page. The news about Tom Heaton go twice as many upvotes. That, in combination with the shit load of backlash here, shows that the majority doesn't want this

[–]Bayern MünchenDictarium 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well it had more comments in it than this thread did so there's that. And the point of that thread is discussion, not visibility. It doesn't need upvotes. It's effectively stickied.

[–]Manchester Uniteddoctorpwn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

People were just joking around dude. Come on, it was Christmas. It was just a bit of fun.

[–]Chelseapugsftw 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, those questions barely make it to the front page cuz they get trolled or downvoted. Here and there OC questions gather a lot of attention and bring good discussion

[–]EnglandTrashHawk 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

stop being such stuffy twats.

the internet's hall monitors.

[–]Paris Saint-Germainbulgarian_zucchini 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's pathetic.

[–]Manchester UnitedAlder_ 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like that your trying to do something about it but its just in Redditor's nature not to use sticky posts that will be up for an entire day.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of the suggestions we were presented with when trying solve the problem, this is the only one that could be implemented objectively and fairly. Did you have another suggestion?

[–]FeyenoordBasedStroopwafel 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would also like to propose a Gif-Megathread, for all videos and gifs people would normally post on its own.

Also I would like to propose a Match-Megathread, for all matches. That way we ensure that no one is going to clutter up the front page with stupid match threads.

Of course, we also can't miss a TransferRumour-Megathread, for all the Transfer Rumours us silly redditors normally post on its own.

Actually, why don't we do things like /r/polandball and only give submission rights to a select few people. That way us dumb normal redditors can't post any dumb posts.

[–]Paris Saint-Germainbulgarian_zucchini 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

better yet. how about we shut the whole fucking thing down and let a couple of mods post whatever they think us plebs will like. fuck this shit.

[–][deleted] 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

Oh fuck off. Way to kill off any discussion.

[–]Charlton Athleticugotamesij 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

The inevitable shift towards this place becoming r/soccergifs continues...

[–]Chelseaoscmazard1 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is my favorite sub and taking away questions will take away a massive part of why I like this sub so much.

[–]Italymichaelisnotginger 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

This is a good idea in light of the 'karma for self-posts'

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

I can't for the life of me comprehend what the admins were thinking on that one.

[–]Italymichaelisnotginger 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's going to make a lot of subreddits go to shit more quickly unless mods really get their game on

[–]BarcelonaJurijFedorov 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They want to keep all traffic on the side. They want people to copy the news articles to Reddit instead of leading people away to other sites. This is why they are hosting images now.

[–]Manchester UnitedJumba 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

How are you guys going to handle pre-match/post-match posts? That's going to be a shit storm of posts for sure.

[–]Newcastle UnitedEnglishnotgentleman 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Much prefer this, this is good.

[–]BenficaHelloMyNameIsLola 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

My only problem with this sub is the amount of dislikes in new threads within 10 seconds of them being posted.

Nobody has the time to read an article, to open the page before clicking downvote. It's childish.

[–]FeyenoordBasedStroopwafel 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really don't think this is a good idea. The sub is already primarily gifs and transfer rumors so the occasional question isn't hurting this place at all. The people that hate these questions are definitely in the minority. Hell, even the shitposts are funny from time to time. It's not like these shitposts get upvoted to the front page everyday, very rarely does one become big. If you guys are truly scared of shitposts you should ban shitpositng, not questions.

[–]LiverpoolThe_Backseatsman 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

We should have one for transfers, also bundle all pre-match, match and post-match threads for the day in to one thread, all goal replays in one thread, all quotes in one thread. This is a great step, with any luck this sub can have just 5 threads a day from AutoMod and then everything will be much better, as it is clearly such a prominent issue that needs to be addressed.

[–]San Jose Earthquakestsumeguhh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

..so I'm guessing the answer is no, but what is the legal ruling/wording against shaping your hair into a bowl and carrying it to goal?

[–]Vatican CityPM_Me_Cocks 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Question about a current match that should really just be a comment in the match thread - "Why did Pepe just get red-carded for that?" or "Did anyone see that cool move Hazard made?"

Thank God. Those really fogged up my glasses during the Euros.

[–]LiverpoolJackoosh 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

>implying the new queue wasn't garbage already

Still though, anything that cuts down on the amount of underrated xi threads in the sub can't be a bad thing

[–]AhBeZe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

good idea. the admins are going crazy with the idea of self posts giving you karma and this is hopefully going to avoid it (mostly) on this sub reddit. there's already too much shit posting and the karma change is just going to encourage more.

[–]BarcelonaJurijFedorov 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unrealistic hypothetical posts that are intended to "get a discussion going"... i.e. "If you could clone a player 10 times, what player would make the best overall team?" or "What would be your favorite XI of left-footed players under 5'9", none of whom natively speak the language of the country in which they play?"

Obscure (or sometimes really basic) rules questions / clarifications - i.e. "Can a player shape his hair in the shape of a bowl and put the ball in there and carry it down the field and score?"

Wait? You haven't read those threads have you? A lot of really good and intelligent input was made in those threads. A lot of new footballers were mentioned and videos on something similar happening were brought up. There were 10 star quality threads and the questions started that. Maybe the questions were a bit silly, but they did lead to really good and new information for me personally.

[–]BarcelonaHippoBigga 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's going to be karma for self-posts now? What a silly idea.

[–]Chelseaoscmazard1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I may be the minority or.majority but I personally enjoy these questions. The quality ones lead to lots of discussions and more people reply to them rather than going to the daily questions thread.

[–]EmelecMontuvito_G 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Out of the four primary reasons you gave for this change, only #4 seems any good:

  1. Avoid the karma race with the new karma for self-post rule.

The rest make no sense. For every complaint you receive about poor/obscure/flaming shitposts, there's no doubt quite a bit of good threads that have enabled discussion and analysis among football fans. If the only top posts on this sub are going to be about transfer rumors, tweets, and match threads, then r/soccer's going to have a pretty robotic feel to it compared to what we have now.

Why not just enlist more moderators and start cracking down on chronically inane posters?

[–]Truro CitySwedishTurnip 3ポイント4ポイント  (24子コメント)

Would the thread on the front page (Please sir! Can I have my ball back?) right now asking about your favourite football stories/games when you were younger be removed as a part of this?

[–]MorecambeTim-Sanchez 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

I actually like this idea. Perhaps auto-moderator could be employed to direct people to this thread?

However, I do echo other comments that all questions perhaps should not be banned. I totally understand that you probably want to avoid any sort of opinion-based rather than solid rules, but I feel like banning all questions is unfair.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

Perhaps auto-moderator could be employed to direct people to this thread?

Yes, that's exactly our intent.

[–]MorecambeTim-Sanchez 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

As I said, auto-mod can be quite indiscriminate so I do think some sort of mod interaction can be needed.

How about the OP must answer his own question? This would rule out all basic rules questions, and would at least ensure some effort/quality has gone into it and it can provoke some discussion. Noob questions could also be posted to /r/soccernoobs.

Just an idea for one way it could be done, but I do think some mod interaction is needed.

[–]Arsenal9jack9 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As I said, auto-mod can be quite indiscriminate so I do think some sort of mod interaction can be needed.

AutoModerator is a pretty blunt instrument and we would be careful about enforcing this rule with it.

I'm also aware of "bot-creep" (I just made that up) which is a reliance on automated tools to do jobs that really ought to be done by sentient human beings. Bots can make some really dumb mistakes that a real person would never make.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

We have been doing what we can to limit the "low quality" questions but there becomes a threshold where we are basically censoring discussion because we thought a thread shouldn't have been allowed for some subjective reason. We'd rather have it be more black and white.

[–]MorecambeTim-Sanchez 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I do understand. If the line has to be drawn, I'd hope it wasn't for banning every question.

I understand the trial period, but if the mods keep that in mind maybe during the trial you might be able to find a more appropriate rule? /r/cricket has a no stupid questions thread, perhaps all "noob" or other questions with clear answers (not discussions) get posted. Just another possibility of where to draw the line and keep it black and white without banning questions altogether.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

But again, what's a noob question? What's a stupid question? What's the difference between someone asking what club we think they should support, and what it means to really be a supporter of a club? How do we draw the line? It's all arbitrary.

[–]MorecambeTim-Sanchez 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If there's a definite right/wrong answer (Laws, competition rules, facts, player info etc.) , then it's removed and to be posted in /r/soccernoobs or the question thread. If it's up for discussion/debate, then it's not removed.

I'm sure some things might still fall into a grey area, but they'd be rare exceptions.

[–]Arsenalthekrone[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We largely removed rule questions and directed folks to /r/soccernoobs anyway. With the others about facts / player info, there are many of those that could be not so black and white.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Throw that plague to a new subreddit, they can ask themselves what is the best XI of players with an O in their last name while we discuss football

[–]Arsenal9jack9 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I always thought it would work better as a separate subreddit, like /r/AskHistorians and /r/AskScience we could have an AskSoccer. I realise that this isn't an academic subreddit but we do generate a ton of questions most of which never see the light of day.

Some questions get over a hundred responses but still get downvoted. That suggests that there is a secondary community here which to me means they would be better served with a separate subreddit.

[–]Sunderlandwonderfuladventure[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/asksoccer is a really great idea if it was well publicised by the sub

[–]JuventusSebSarno 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

How do clubs like Everton, Southampton, Swansea, and Stoke break that ceiling of 'not contending for the title but too good to be relegated'?

[–]Southamptonahp327 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

slow, steady improvement up the table + a board with the acumen to play the long game funds-wise, I imagine. Not overspending in any one year, cultivating your own talent where possible and hoping someone has an off year where you can punch above your weight.

[–]Hull Cityjwf91 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Option B. Overspending in consistent years.

[–]Southamptonjoethesaint 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well I'm with you. Going to be funny to see some of the strops this causes though.

[–]ColombiaGrmanRodriguez 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So r/soccer became flipboard. Not a fan really.

[–]Southamptonahp327 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Since I haven't actually seen a thread yet, and have a question, guess I'll put it here:

say Team A wants to buy Player X from Team B. Transfer fee is paid, but X and A can't agree on contract details - wages or what-have-you, so the sale never completes. Does A get its money back or is it SOL? I imagine this never happens IRL, but hypothetically.

[–]Borussia DortmundGoingOutW3st 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not like they pay 50m in cash at the first hint of a yes! I imagine player payments are either invoiced by a third party after contract talks are agreed on or money is held in escrow, again, by another 3rd party.

Wouldn't make any sense to pay for player upfront and wait for contract talks.

[–]MVVrisker15 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please also cut the Di Marzio threads.

[–]Toronto FCMakelevi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This kind of thread has worked wonders in /r/photography. I think it's a solid idea.

[–]that-there 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like this idea, but I also don't give a fuck about people posting shit to get Internet points.

[–]Manchester CityTheAmSi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why don't you make a new subreddit for the New queue and pin it to the front page of r/soccer like you pinned the daily questions thread u/thekrone

[–]RB Leipziginappropriate_meming 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, when does it start? I have questions! Multiple!

[–]Arsenalavonhun 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How does the scheduling work with the EPL and the Olympics. It looks like Olympic games will run from Aug 3-20 but the EPL starts Aug 13th. Do some players just miss the first few games?

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What happened to Subotic and Middlesborough?

[–]Club Bruggekaiyotic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bit of silly thing, but I'd appreciate it if people who post stuff about any of the dembeles that they'd specify if it's moussa 1, moussa 2 or ousmane. Cause every so often I read a post about a dembele and never know which one they mean. Is this just me or do others have the same issue?

[–]EnglandtheRagingEwok 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nonononononononononno

Pissoffffffffffffffffffff

[–]FeyenoordBasedStroopwafel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really don't think this is a good idea. The sub is already primarily gifs and transfer rumors so the occasional question isn't hurting this place at all. The people that hate these questions are definitely in the minority. Hell, even the shitposts are funny from time to time. It's not like these shitposts get upvoted to the front page everyday, very rarely does one become big. If you guys are truly scared of shitposts you should ban shitpositng, not questions.

[–]Liverpoolschillin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't know what people are complaining about really. If you like your shitty questions they'll all still be in the daily thread.

[–]Bayern Münchenscholoy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very good idea and it's something many subs have, I would just say they should be posted at random times so people from every timezone have the chance to participate, also people won't be able to wait for them just to post them directly to get dat karma.

[–]Manchester Unitedmetrize 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's the answer to the can a player put the ball in his hair and run down the pitch with it? People can't tackle him because of high foot and if the ball is stuck in his hair they can't head it off either

[–]Arsenalduskykmh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wondering where I can find a viewing schedule for all of the preseason PL games.

[–]BarcelonaJurijFedorov 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay, I will start.

Why are mods suddenly being Nazi?