2438
2439

News /r/allPalmer Luckey: The Facebook Billionaire Secretly Funding Trump’s Meme Machine (thedailybeast.com)

wrtChase が 投稿

上位 200 件のコメント表示する 500
並べ替え:
ベスト
トップ新着論争中古い順Q&A

[–]WormSlayerHalf-Life VR[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (34子コメント)

Although it's the moderators opinion that politics have no place in /r/Oculus, we are reinstating this post. We hope the conflict can remain in this one thread. This is a reminder to please be civil. We will still be moderating this post for individual comments that do not follow our rules.

[–]studabakerhawk 113ポイント114ポイント  (13子コメント)

So that's why he hasn't been posting here... He's been shitposting Tump Memes all night.

[–]rlg 92ポイント93ポイント  (10子コメント)

The worst part is that I bought into VR and Oculus bc it has the potential to change how people view the world. It's an empathy headset.

You can literally walk in someone else's shoes, see the horrors of war up close, meet people around the world and understand them more viscerally.

Yet here is Palmer pushing for a degradation in our virtual community, supporting a candidate who strictly promotes fear of "the other" instead of trying to understand them.

VR has the potential to make Internet communication more heartfelt and real. But Palmer has decided to use his capital to support a fucking meme factory that delves online discussion into racist, angry, anti-intellectual bullshit.

コメントをもっと表示する (2 返事)

    [–]WetwithSharp 249ポイント250ポイント  (105子コメント)

    "Facebook, which does not currently employ Luckey, did not respond to requests for comment by press time." -

    Uhhh...what?

    [–]TrefoilHat 134ポイント135ポイント  (78子コメント)

    I had the same question, came here to post it.

    Perhaps Oculus is still considered an independent entity (and not a division of Facebook) based on some weird corporate structure and so Luckey is considered an employee of Oculus?

    Maybe the author is confused?

    Maybe Palmer left??

    The Wired interview, which couldn't have been that long ago, said:

    Luckey’s official title at Oculus is “founder”, but he’s not the boss. . .Day-to-day, his role is hard to define. He helps external developers create material for VR, and works on cool new hardware, such as Oculus’ long-awaited Touch hand controllers...

    His LinkedIn also still lists him at Oculus.

    /u/PalmerLuckey, or, I guess, /u/NimbleRichMan, do you want to weigh in?

    [–]goldstarstickergiver 40ポイント41ポイント  (5子コメント)

    nimblerichman has been deleted

    [–]Wallach 76ポイント77ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You would think a dude basically raised by 4Chan would understand better how the internet works.

    [–]alwaysarunner 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    archived /user/NimbleRichMan

    His post on /r/the_donald is archived too

    [–]TrefoilHat 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

    nimblerichman

    I totally read that as "nimble reich man" - thought you were taking the Trump/Hitler comparison a bit far!

    has been deleted

    I noticed that too. The article has also been updated, saying:

    During the reporting of this article, posts pertaining to Nimble America were rapidly being deleted across Reddit.

    コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

      [–]foxh8er 42ポイント43ポイント  (63子コメント)

      I would really love to see him respond to this in person.

      /u/PalmerLuckey

      [–]ExynosHD 95ポイント96ポイント  (61子コメント)

      At this point he needs to do a very in-depth AMA if he has any plans on rebuilding any sort of trust with the community. Which we all know wont happen.

      [–]JudgeJoeCool 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

      That'll happen at the same time the Sean Murray one does

      [–]Dintri 100ポイント101ポイント  (32子コメント)

      Too late. I'm getting the Vive in the future along with my friends.

      [–]ExynosHD 45ポイント46ポイント  (25子コメント)

      I agree. I honestly wasn't planning on getting a rift anyway but this certainly solidified it for many people.

      コメントをもっと表示する (6 返事)

        コメントをもっと表示する (27 返事)

          コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

            コメントをもっと表示する (8 返事)

              [–]UploadVR_IanUpload VR 95ポイント96ポイント  (7子コメント)

              I asked Oculus PR: "Is Palmer Luckey still an active part of Oculus?"

              Response: "Yes, he’s still with FB/ Oculus."

              コメントをもっと表示する (18 返事)

                [–]Freezenification 386ポイント387ポイント  (107子コメント)

                Wow. I did not see that coming.

                [–]WarOfTheFanboys 142ポイント143ポイント  (3子コメント)

                There were definitely similarities between the Rift and Nimble America's launch...

                [–]morbidexpression 82ポイント83ポイント  (67子コメント)

                seems pretty obvious, they share politics. Fun to learn about his reddit alt, makes me wonder which ones he's been using here.

                [–]Pontus_Pilates 35ポイント36ポイント  (65子コメント)

                they share politics

                Such as? I mean, Donald Trump doesn't have a political ideology beyond what he thinks the right wants to hear on any given moment.

                [–]Bullyoncube 80ポイント81ポイント  (18子コメント)

                Which would make Palmer one of the people that Trump panders to

                Three months from now Trump will say that his presidential bid was the best thing he ever did, and it made him much more profitable. He didn't lose, it achieved his goals, and it was huge.

                Five years from now he will say "Of course I didn't win. Thank God. What kind of idiot would support those things I was saying? I was just talking, saying whatever came into my head. I mean, I'd make a great president, huge president, but I was just talking."

                [–]Fidodo 44ポイント45ポイント  (1子コメント)

                If he loses, the campaign actually will be the best thing he's ever done for his own personal brand. He got himself a 300 million captive audience, even if 60℅ hate him, 40℅ of all of America is a huge audience, bigger than anything else he could have achieved. Everyone in America is losing in this election except for Trump. He's going to be on top even if he loses. He pulled the greatest con ever and he's going to walk away unscathed

                [–]Raudskeggr 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Turn around three times and spit right now; you can't tempt fate like that.

                [–]tomdarch 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You're forgetting about the part where he claims that he only lost because "the election was rigged!" which is harmful to our democracy.

                コメントをもっと表示する (14 返事)

                  コメントをもっと表示する (46 返事)

                    コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

                      [–]gtmog 106ポイント107ポイント  (19子コメント)

                      From the beginning he's spouted some jingoistic stuff that made me facepalm a bit. The only thing I can remember was something about american cars maybe?

                      Yeah, not surprised. Kinda disappointed.

                      [–]thisisnotdavid 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Facepalmer Luckey.

                      [–]HelenSkelterDK2 36ポイント37ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      jingoistic

                      noun - derogatory

                      extreme patriotism, especially in the form of aggressive or warlike foreign policy.

                      [–]HKei 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Do we have a dictionary bot now?

                      [–]HelenSkelterDK2 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I just do that for words I get caught up on in case others might have trouble too.

                      コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

                        コメントをもっと表示する (14 返事)

                          [–]chaosfire235 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          That should the slogan of this election cycle.

                          コメントをもっと表示する (14 返事)

                            [–]Nilok7 110ポイント111ポイント  (37子コメント)

                            Here is the only working archive of the posts made by "NimbleRichMan".

                            I am posting them here so they are more easily accessible and so people can research this.

                            https://archive.is/4OuYq

                            [–]morbidexpression 90ポイント91ポイント  (28子コメント)

                            Thanks for that. The scotch talk is ludicrous, especially since he sneers about Bernie Sanders' "lavish lifestyle."

                            This part is good:

                            "Where are all the wealthy, powerful, and publicly identifiable Trump supports? Answer: We dare not say a word. It would destroy us. I would never dream of blacklisting a business for the political views of the men who work there, but the same cannot be said for many HRC supporters."

                            So he thinks if this were public it would destroy him? Gee, I wonder why.

                            [–]_pixie_ 62ポイント63ポイント  (24子コメント)

                            Strange how it's embarrassing to support Trump, but not Hillary. Maybe he should think for 2 seconds why that is. Such a smart guy.

                            コメントをもっと表示する (3 返事)

                              コメントをもっと表示する (8 返事)

                                [–]Broseph_McTatertots 722ポイント723ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                He's playing the long game: if reality becomes a nightmarish dystopia, people will want to escape to VR.

                                [–]knight_who_says_knee 96ポイント97ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                There are over 550 million assault memes in worldwide circulation. That's one meme for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11?

                                -Palmer Luckey

                                [–]geliduss 36ポイント37ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Not a fan of Oculus after some of their shit but damn that is Zesty

                                [–]DemIce 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                It's a quote from Lord of War; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399295/quotes?item=qt0403284

                                ( Fun movie - great intro scene )

                                コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

                                  [–]FlyingWaffleED 215ポイント216ポイント  (186子コメント)

                                  His girlfriend is a Trump supporter.

                                  [–]MrBinnacleHim [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                  She's deleted her account, but here's a screencap of a particularly charming tweet of hers.

                                  [–]Chardmonster 70ポイント71ポイント  (45子コメント)

                                  Huh. I'm really surprised to see her cosplaying Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite. Everything in that game's story goes against what Trump stands for.

                                  [–]ClavusRift CV1 + Touch dev kit, DK2, DK1 & Vive 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I don't think cosplayers care much for their character's political views. Otherwise I could think of weirder match-ups.

                                  コメントをもっと表示する (42 返事)

                                    [–]SinjunB 63ポイント64ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                    Yup. Incase there was any doubt after the article, this seals it. And that fucking hashtag... when anyone asks "so, why exactly is social justice cancer?" what do these morons even say? "Political correctness is bad"?

                                    [–]wrtChase[S] 166ポイント167ポイント  (71子コメント)

                                    Wow, that hashtag.

                                    #socialjusticeiscancer

                                    That's just gross.

                                    [–]amorphous714 88ポイント89ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                    Extremists ruined the term

                                    [–]morbidexpression 119ポイント120ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                    not really. Rightwingers hated it from day one. Unless you can point out a period where rightwingers spoke highly of social justice... i'll wait.

                                    コメントをもっと表示する (7 返事)

                                      コメントをもっと表示する (30 返事)

                                        コメントをもっと表示する (42 返事)

                                          [–]Hyakku 142ポイント143ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                          Has anyone seen Rubin or Iribes response to this? I can't imagine they're ecstatic to have finally had the narrative shift from some of the negative PR to more optimistic narratives about OC3 and the launch reboot only to have that goodwill fucking demolished ten days before the event. Putting aside the content here, the timing almost seems like it was chosen specifically to harm oculus.

                                          [–]morbidexpression 88ポイント89ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          Iribe would probably say something vague like, "I donated to O'Malley last year and Oculus is a diverse company comprised of many people from all parts of the political spectrum" -- you can tweet that tomorrow morning, Brendan. You're welcome.

                                          コメントをもっと表示する (4 返事)

                                            [–]vanfanel1car 238ポイント239ポイント  (134子コメント)

                                            I don't much care for his political choices but why would he out himself for doing such a ridiculous thing as described in the article? Did he not realize the huge ramifications it would have on oculus? It's already reverberating through the twitterverse at lightning speed. At this point oculus/facebook would either need to distance themselves in some way or palmer to step down. I've already seen one dev studio (not including any devs in this thread) pulling their upcoming support unless something changes.

                                            [–]hciofrdm 48ポイント49ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                            The guy is set for life. I dont think he cares that much.

                                            [–]Bullyoncube 40ポイント41ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            Like Michael Jackson. Ungrounded. If you are successful at an early age, and everyone keeps telling you you are brilliant, you don't have guard rails keeping your life on track.

                                            [–]yuikl 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            For sure. Reality itself shifts for those who have a huge change in their lifestyle. You can call it "new money" or "beverly hillbilly syndrome" or whatever you want to call it, but having a huge influx of money, power and fame will fuck up just about anybody in some way. /r/the_donald is the only subreddit that I've ever blacklisted because it's so toxic, but when I read through the posts it does seem to be a strange mix of 4chan humor with wacked-out macho politics. I think it's another example of someone with a lot of money that's a little "out there" trying to have fun and not thinking about the public reaction, or simply not caring because he's got his and fuck the haters...some dumb shit from my point of view, but I'm not a sudden almost-billionaire in his 20s.

                                            [–]CaptainIncredible 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            That sort of happened to Steve Jobs too. In the early days, they went from a garage, to a small company, to a Fortune 100 company almost overnight.

                                            It went straight to Job's head. It was described as "throwing gasoline on a fire".

                                            He was reported in the early days as walking around Apple being a complete asshole to pretty much everyone and being amused by it. He supposedly pitted teams against each other, and ignored his family for his work. (Ignored his daughter Lisa and instead made a computer called Lisa.)

                                            Then he got fired from the company he created by a man he hired to run it. (Scully). That seemed to really put the zap on his head and humble him a bit.

                                            From his exile, came NeXT (which produced awesome stuff, but was a huge money pit until it was purchased by Apple launching Apple's renaissance with Jobs, MacOSX, iPod, iPad, iTunes), and Pixar (which was purchased by Disney).

                                            The pattern is almost like some literary archetype.

                                            コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

                                              [–]flashman 43ポイント44ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              His wealth-driven flippant approach to something that will change millions of lives is one of the ugliest parts of this.

                                              “I’ve got plenty of money,” Luckey added. “Money is not my issue. I thought it sounded like a real jolly good time.”

                                              Utterly crass and self serving. A perfect fit for the Trump camp, I suppose. Wouldn't it be funny if it turns out he's wealthier than Donald?

                                              コメントをもっと表示する (4 返事)

                                                コメントをもっと表示する (123 返事)

                                                  [–]la2eee 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  facepalmer.

                                                  [–]jensen404 53ポイント54ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                  Wow, so close to Oculus Connect. Wonder what impact this news will have on the conference.

                                                  [–]morbidexpression 75ポイント76ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                  Carmack will open his keynote by accusing Obama of being a Muslim, then say he was only joking and reveal positional tracking for mobile has been cracked.

                                                  [–]ClavusRift CV1 + Touch dev kit, DK2, DK1 & Vive 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Thus opening the largest emotional rollercoaster the world has ever seen.

                                                  [–]cheesesliceyawl 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                  I wonder what Carmack's position is? Texas home grown? I would imagine quite a few are Republicans at Oculus. Which really does baffle the mind. Sith or Jedi. I know ....I will follow the Sith!! /s

                                                  [–]the__throwaway 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  He donated to Ron Paul in 2012

                                                  [–]foxh8er 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  that sounds about right.

                                                  [–]LankyChew 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Carmack could be described as a right leaning libertarian/ autarchist, along the lines of older Robert Heinlein. Basically a big fan of Ayn Rand and space rockets.

                                                  コメントをもっと表示する (4 返事)

                                                    [–]Wonderingaboutsth1 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    VR will give the american experience those muslims banned from entering the US!

                                                    コメントをもっと表示する (4 返事)

                                                      [–]wfunction 78ポイント79ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                      I'm not really surprised but I am disappointed. I've always liked Palmer as a person even though I've been agreeing with him on fewer and fewer things as the years went on. It's somewhat obvious now looking back and reflecting on how cocky and arrogant he could be with his own opinions, even the controversial ones regarding certain business practices and decisions he's made. His youth and lack of life experience really shows in these situations.

                                                      It's also clear that he traveled in a lot of the same circles as online Trump supporters. Palmer fits the demographic and profile of an online Trump supporter to a tee. He's part of the most eager group to segue into alt-right politics. I would've assumed someone like Palmer's intelligence, savvy and ability to think rationally would have excluded him from falling into this trap, though. I guess taking the easy way out, intellectually, is just that appealing.

                                                      I just can't respect anyone who thinks memes and internet smearing is a constructive type of political discourse, especially someone in Palmer's position who is evidently using his money to back this kind of horseshit. It's not his politics that bother me so much as it is his willingness to put money behind one of the worst things about our culture right now. Of all the causes you could put your money behind... Jesus.

                                                      TL;DR Shame on you Palmer, shame on you. More glad than ever that I didn't buy into Oculus.

                                                      [–]manocheeseRift 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      Unfortunately, intelligence doesn't enter in to it. I'm surprised because he seemed to be able to hold rational conversations and take on others' opinions. However, human beings are notoriously good at ignoring logic and reason when it suits them.

                                                      It's not a coincidence that pro-Palmer comments fall in to just two categories: 1) "He has the right to his opinion" and then implying that people are wrong to give theirs on the subject 2) Insults.

                                                      [–]wfunction 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Yeah, there are heaps of historical precedence for this. Rich and intelligent people being on the (very) wrong side of history. Happens over and over again and optimists like me are taken aback each and every time.

                                                      One of the more troubling things about the alt-right movement--and I've spent a lot of time listening to what they've had to say--is how they're so willing to reject academia (assertions of "cultural marxism"), reject data, statistics, facts or any other kind of empiricism that contradicts their claims. This is why someone in Palmer's position has to resort to funding memes, of all things, instead of scholars or intellectuals. It's not a movement about logic, even moreso than the much maligned SJWs that they hate so much. The alt-right only cares about their feelings and creating online safe-spaces.

                                                      That's why they smear and meme instead of debate. Instead of raising a counterpoint to what I or other people like me have to say, they're just as likely to resort to memes or call people "cucks" or "SJWs".

                                                      I wouldn't be surprised if Trump did win. I'm fucking exhausted at trying to reason with these people and they're building up more steam than ever. Part of me hopes that Trump wins just so they can see the failures of this ideology manifest for themselves so they'll know better in the future.

                                                      Edit: fixed a few mistakes.

                                                      [–]Hyakku 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Really appreciate your posts man. This is exactly how I feel about all of this; just supporting trump would be distasteful but completely normal. But to knowingly propagate trash that's guaranteed to lower the quality of discourse and reduce chances for alignment in areas of shared interest is just pathetically sad. It's also somewhat infuriating how some rich kid is somehow trying to distinguish himself from wealthy elites playing in politics by...using large sums of money to influence politics.

                                                      You're right though; I need to stop being optimistic and disabuse myself of the notion that intelligence or talent in one realm translates to another. Just aggravating that now I've got this shitty reminder of it every time I want to go use the Rift if I can't sell this thing.

                                                      Edit: Well, not completely normal, but acceptable.

                                                      コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

                                                        [–]Metalsludge 265ポイント266ポイント  (101子コメント)

                                                        Not shocked by this. Considering that he is right leaning and homeschooled, it would almost be a surprise if he was not a Trump supporter, at least at this point where Trump is now the official nominee of the more conservative of the two major parties. He has every right to support either candidate, of course.

                                                        That he appears to have been an enthusiastic Trump supporter to this degree for some time may be more revealing though. And his having connections with the alt-right is certainly interesting. That part is a little surprising. Makes me wonder how aware he is of some of the more interesting, um, ideas, and conspiracy theories, that part of the Internet engages in, when they are not busy throwing around these "dank memes" he seems so fond of.

                                                        [–]dougiebgood 87ポイント88ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                        I find it tough to judge a person by their political leanings, given that I have friends and family who fall in the entire spectrum, but that doesn't mean I have to support those person's ideals with my money.

                                                        I'm not surprised seeing this, considering Palmer's background like you said, but I now know I have the option of choosing where my money will go to, and it will not be to Oculus.

                                                        [–]Metalsludge 53ポイント54ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                        I think that's the problem some people are having with this - the feeling that their money is now going to support things they don't like, by way of Oculus. Considering Luckey's position as team captain/mascot of Oculus, and all the press he gets, I can see why people would view it that way and be uncomfortable.

                                                        But Luckey is not actually the embodiment of Oculus, even if it sometimes seems that way. And they are now owned by Facebook, a company headed by someone who donates to the Clintons, seemingly in larger amounts than what Luckey has thus far given to his cause (Even if he matched all donations referenced in the article on /The Donald, it would only come to about $11,000 from him. Whereas Facebook has given over $100,000 to Clinton, and $20 million from a co-founder to Clinton.) Money given to Oculus/Facebook goes to lots of things through its executives, including both candidates, with most money having gone to Clinton so far.

                                                        So, personally, I don't feel guilt about buying Oculus related stuff. I'm sure Gabe supports certain stuff too, he just may not be as public as Zuckerberg, or as caught in the act as Luckey. I'm not sure we can avoid funding political things indirectly when buying products.

                                                        This backlash is why some companies and firms have official policies about employees holding public positions on controversial topics though. I wonder what Facebook's policies are in this area.

                                                        [–]NathanLonghair 71ポイント72ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                        I do feel guilt. Why? because the Clinton campaign works within "the rules". He's not just funding Trump, I'd be supremely unhappy with him doing that, but he's entitled to his leanings. No he's actively feeding a campaign of misinformation spreading much wider than what the same amount would do within an official campaign, and with ZERO accountability. As another poster said: it's about keeping the ignorant ignorant. I cannot accept this style of guerrilla warfare - and again, with no accountability.

                                                        コメントをもっと表示する (8 返事)

                                                          コメントをもっと表示する (5 返事)

                                                            [–]psynautic 116ポイント117ポイント  (34子コメント)

                                                            it's hard for me to believe that anyone of his internet savvy pedigree doesn't know about the underbelly of the alt-right

                                                            [–]chewp911 126ポイント127ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                            He's actively funding it.

                                                            [–]Velvet_buttplug 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            It really isn't even an underbelly. A ten minute Google spree of the term leads right to Richard Spencer and other white nationalists.

                                                            コメントをもっと表示する (26 返事)

                                                              [–]CC_EF_JTF 28ポイント29ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                              homeschooled

                                                              Please please please don't lump all homeschoolers into one category. Lots of secular and not right-wing homeschoolers out there.

                                                              コメントをもっと表示する (27 返事)

                                                                [–]fade_ 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                So the time he went on radio silence here due to massive problems he was posting on the_donald about dank racist memes? you have got to be shitting me

                                                                [–]Tin_Foil 354ポイント355ポイント  (74子コメント)

                                                                I'm looking to be corrected on this...

                                                                Am I right in believing Palmer Luckey, the man behind the Oculus, is paying people to post on Reddit and Twitter those obnoxious half-truth stories? I mean, if he wants to support Trump, donate to his campaign or whatever, so be it. I don't agree with it, Trump is a monster in a lot of regards, but it takes it to a different level if you are actively trying to keep the ignorant ignorant.

                                                                If I'm reading this stuff wrong, someone please correct me. I want to be wrong.

                                                                [–]morbidexpression 264ポイント265ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                Pretty much. Funding lies and ignorance because he thinks he's in a noble struggle like the founding fathers and such tactics are legit in the pursuit of... tax cuts.

                                                                What did you get with your buyout money, Bobby?

                                                                Race hate! And a Tesla.

                                                                [–]Fidodo 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                Well actually the founding fathers were in for the tax cuts too /s

                                                                [–]onan 124ポイント125ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                Right, because as Luckey explains, "The same has been true of many movements for freedom in history. You can’t fight the American elite without serious firepower. They will outspend you and destroy you by any and all means."

                                                                See, when it's other billionaires doing it, that's "the elite" being oppressive. But when it's this billionaire doing it, he's a noble freedom fighter.

                                                                コメントをもっと表示する (6 返事)

                                                                  [–]angrybox1842 133ポイント134ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                  You are reading it correctly. People will tell you Palmer is entitled to his political beliefs but it's much darker than that.

                                                                  [–]secret-prion 62ポイント63ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                  The organization is just a week old, and everyone on /r/the_donald hates it.

                                                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/54335g/late_night_crew_for_92316/d7yi767

                                                                  Two moderators were forced to step down after its unveiling was soundly rejected.

                                                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/537tsg/this_community_is_not_for_salehere_are_lilz_and/

                                                                  [–]SinjunB 62ポイント63ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  Civil wars that go on at that absolute hellhole of a sub always amuse me.

                                                                  [–]bicameral_mindRift 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Seriously, this whole story is insane. Palmer Luckey is not only a Trump supporter, he and his organization were rejected by Trumps biggest online community. This election man...

                                                                  コメントをもっと表示する (2 返事)

                                                                    コメントをもっと表示する (5 返事)

                                                                      コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

                                                                        [–]sakipooh 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                        It's one thing to support Trump directly but to go as far as funding the active distortion of information and spreading of lies is whole other level of fuckery.

                                                                        It's the social media equivalent of cancer. Thanks for the cancer Palmer.

                                                                        コメントをもっと表示する (44 返事)

                                                                          [–]Vimux 35ポイント36ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                          If it's true then maybe it's better Facebook owns Oculus, and not Palmer any more.

                                                                          I might like books, music, movies but not necessarily all of their authors. Plenty of examples.

                                                                          [–]scottevil132DK2 220ポイント221ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                                                          I.. I'm just blown away after reading this, mouth agape the whole time. What the hell is he thinking by doing this? AND then gloating about it?? This can't be real...? He wouldn't intentionally make him self sound like a immature spoiled little rich asshole, right?

                                                                          [–]daguito81Vive 42ポイント43ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                          It's been a while since we had any palmerdrama in here. Like his massively down voted comments and such. Maybe he was bored and craved that kind of attention and went online and said.. "hmm.. This will stir up some shit for sure"

                                                                          The comments like "money is not an issue for me" make it sound so weird. It's like I'm reading an onion article

                                                                          [–]32LeftatT10 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          Money is not an issue for me he says after getting caught begging teenagers on The_Dumpsite for donations.

                                                                          [–]ILoveRegenHealth 54ポイント55ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                          I can't believe it either. I feel like I fell into the Twilight Zone. The most disturbing thing is finally reading his girlfriend's tweets. I had no idea she was like that. I think she has rubbed off onto Palmer, because I never would've thought he would have those views at all.

                                                                          [–]butwhatisit 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          On the plus side, now when you see a meme you know it's probably been paid to be posted.

                                                                          [–]FR_STARMER 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                          This is what happens when you give a kid $2,000,000,000 for a company overnight. He doesn't have the discipline involved in growing a company and grinding over years, dealing with people, public relations, etc. that shape and mould you as the world batters you against the wall to make a buck.

                                                                          コメントをもっと表示する (9 返事)

                                                                            [–]ToBePacific 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            This is the problem with idolizing someone you don't really know. In this subreddit, people have been falling all over themselves to praise Palmer for everything he does. Meanwhile, he's been dropping not-so-subtle hints about his love for Ayn Rand all along. Now that it comes to a head, no one should be surprised.

                                                                            コメントをもっと表示する (14 返事)

                                                                              [–]BeefBreeze 117ポイント118ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                              Can't wait to see Pepe in VR

                                                                              [–]surely_not_a_bot 180ポイント181ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                              Never has someone gone from a positive to a negative impression so fast for me. +100 to -100 in a matter of minutes as I started realizing this was not a joke.

                                                                              [–]morbidexpression 49ポイント50ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              well, that's probably why he kept it secret for a while as an exceedingly nimble rich man. I wonder if he'll go back to being quiet, or go alt right loud n proud and continue saying silly stuff online that makes Facebook look bad.

                                                                              I'd love to hear what Zuckerberg and company are saying about it -- this is entering into liability territory and one doesn't make a multi billion dollar deal for LIABILITIES.

                                                                              [–]pygmyowl1 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              I've defended him on multiple occasions. I'm regretting that now. Feeling a little duped. I'll do what I can to make my purchases through Steam from here out.

                                                                              コメントをもっと表示する (10 返事)

                                                                                [–]JesseBotwinRift 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                What. The. Fuck.

                                                                                [–]BudorProfessor 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Zuckerberg is not amused, apparently Palmer doesnt care for Oculus anymore or he is just plain dumb because he will not stay with the company much longer.

                                                                                Edit: If he has been influenced by his brain dead girlfriend i have some pity for the poor boy though...

                                                                                [–]VRGIMP27 168ポイント169ポイント  (99子コメント)

                                                                                This is disappointing. I honestly want this article to be proven wrong.

                                                                                [–]MengKongRui 135ポイント136ポイント  (56子コメント)

                                                                                I doubt it, I remember a couple months ago checking Palmer's facebook and he was posting about Trump

                                                                                [–]AntaresDaha 97ポイント98ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                Can confirm, if you follow his Facebook account, this doesn't come as a shocker. He aggressively defends some of Trump's positions on there (as well as other right wing agenda). Basically because it worked for him it has to work for everyone.

                                                                                [–]VRGIMP27 121ポイント122ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                                I'm not usually a political person, and I have supported the Rift as a device for a long time. Unfortunately, I can't feel good about purchasing the rift in this case. All the luck to Palmer, (and I respect his right to his opinion,) but I can't contribute money to something that is extremely likely to fuel bigotry and needless division.

                                                                                [–]JackDT 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                I doubt it, I remember a couple months ago checking Palmer's facebook and he was posting about Trump

                                                                                There's voting for Trump and then there's this -- paying for chan Trump shitposts on reddit and twitter or whatever.

                                                                                :/

                                                                                [–]VRGIMP27 32ポイント33ポイント  (36子コメント)

                                                                                Well, damn. That sucks man.

                                                                                [–]Hyakku 33ポイント34ポイント  (34子コメント)

                                                                                Agreed, but relatedly, if anyone is in the Bay Area and wants a CV1 for $400, PM me once we get confirmation on whether this story is legit or not. Have a vive order ready to go.

                                                                                Edit: Damn that was fast; will entertain any PMs in case this sale falls through but looks like that's done.

                                                                                Separately, I realize I should start a separate thread, but can any of the dual rift/vive owners with a touch dev kit confirm whether Revive works with touch games decently well? May just opt to stick with PSVR the more I'm thinking about it but don't want to just have a super powerful paperweight

                                                                                コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

                                                                                  [–]nicereddy 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  Looking through his Twitter likes, I'd definitely believe it...

                                                                                  [–]foxh8er 39ポイント40ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                                  He confirmed it himself (!), what the fuck?

                                                                                  [–]lipplog 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  I remember 2 or 3 years ago some sort of scuffle about Palmer tweeting his conservative politics. He got defensive, it was dropped, and everyone moved on. I figured maybe he was going through some idealistic Ayn Rand phase. But hell, even Paul Ryan can't support Trump without expressing his shame. Enthusiastic support of Donald Trump is not about economics, politics, or party. It's about small-minded contempt for your fellow Americans.

                                                                                  What a fucking douche.

                                                                                  コメントをもっと表示する (21 返事)

                                                                                    [–][deleted] 124ポイント125ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                                    Wow, I gotta say I'm pretty floored right now. There's something so very inspiring about the VR of today. I've been a gamer my whole life and finally, for the first time, we're going to be able to explore new worlds together. And actually be there. Where you can look over your shoulder and greet someone as you shoot down waves of zombies, or slap high fives after a successful dungeon raid. I was so inspired by it all that I created my first Reddit account and became an active member in this subreddit. In my business, I meet famous people all the time and you just kind of get used to it, but I always looked forward to the day I would shake Mr Lucky's hand and tell him thanks. I'm a black man with two black sons and I'm speechless that Mr bright eye'd Lucky supports a racist bigot who wants to re-invoke the "Stop and Frisk" and says most Mexicans are rapist and criminals and and... I have nothing against the Republican Party, I think the best person for the job should win. But Trump just spews hate and the people who support him are those unaffected by it and without empathy for those who are. And not only does he support Trump, but he decides to help by funding an organization that spews hate to the other side. Him and trump really are perfect for each other. I think I'm done with Reddit. Maybe with oculus. This is something that I kind of wish I never read. You guys have been great. I don't ever want to hear Palmer Luckey's name again, so avoiding this subreddit will help. /u/wormslayer you are awesome and thanks for being a fantastic moderator.

                                                                                    [–]Jackrabbit710 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Nothing will change! I'll still be there to hi five you in VR don't worry

                                                                                    コメントをもっと表示する (15 返事)

                                                                                      [–]Dislated 545ポイント546ポイント  (302子コメント)

                                                                                      I have a rift and have been following its development for years. Although I've never posted on Reddit I visit this sub almost daily. I created an account today just to say that if this is true, I'm done with Oculus.

                                                                                      [–]amaretto1Vive 186ポイント187ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                                      I've given Palmer the benefit of the doubt over and over... When I read the article I thought it was satire, but now it's been picked up by other news organisations. If true it does leave a sour taste in my mouth. Sure, Palmer is entitled to support who he likes. I'm just very disappointed.

                                                                                      [–]ness96 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                      He is entitled to support whom he likes, but so are you and I. Honestly, this alone settles the Vive vs Rift debate for myself. I had a DK2, and was planning on buying a Vive or Rift in the next few months. Palmer made my decision for me.

                                                                                      [–]jonmcfluffy 22ポイント23ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                      why would he just out of the blue tell the dailybeast "hey i have this user name on reddit"?

                                                                                      [–]shouldigetitaway 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      I imagine it was more TheDailyBeast saying "We can basically confirm this is you, make it easier for yourself"

                                                                                      コメントをもっと表示する (5 返事)

                                                                                        コメントをもっと表示する (9 返事)

                                                                                          [–]postpunkjustin 88ポイント89ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                          Same. Palmer can do what he wants with his own money, but I'm done giving him any of mine.

                                                                                          [–]irascible 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          Yep. I'm really fucking sad I gave that shithead my money.

                                                                                          [–]JackDT 58ポイント59ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                          I have a rift and have been following its development for years. Although I've never posted on Reddit I visit this sub almost daily. I created an account today just to say that if this is true, I'm done with Oculus.

                                                                                          But Oculus is owned by Facebook who is largely donating exactly opposite to Palmer's campaign. So it's not that simple. Lots of different people work there.

                                                                                          Still... paying for Trump shitposts on reddit and twitter? :/

                                                                                          [–]Gorgonaut666 119ポイント120ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          I don't think I've posted here in a couple years, but I came to say the same thing.

                                                                                          [–]mccannr1 39ポイント40ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                          Same. I was thrilled to finally get a rift. Loved it. But unfortunately mine was glitchy so I wound up returning it. Had planned on buying another soon, but after this, I'll be looking at getting a Vive instead.

                                                                                          [–]drewbdoo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                          It's totally true. I've had convos with him on Facebook where he abs defended trump and it surprised me that he was a supporter.

                                                                                          コメントをもっと表示する (144 返事)

                                                                                            [–]reyengine 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                            i thought we are paid by putin

                                                                                            [–]Smack-Down 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                            Pepe, Putin, Palmer.

                                                                                            There is clearly a connection. P is the 16th letter of the alphabet. The 16th president of the united states was Abraham Lincoln, who was a Republican. Trump is running for POTUS as republican.

                                                                                            Concidance!? I THANK NAT!

                                                                                            コメントをもっと表示する (2 返事)

                                                                                              [–]TetragrammatonDarknet / Tactera developer 160ポイント161ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                                                              I'm the developer of Darknet and Tactera on the Rift and Gear VR. Been working with Oculus happily since the Kickstarter.

                                                                                              Palmer has a right to spend his money as he wishes. And so do I. That's why I gave a thousand dollars to Hillary Clinton's campaign tonight!

                                                                                              Apparently, Nimble America (the group he was going to help fund) only raised around $11k. It would be really cool if some other devs would join me to help beat that number. :)

                                                                                              [–]vrVRvrVRvr 49ポイント50ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                              I have the right to spend all my money on marijuana. It would be cool if some other devs would join me.

                                                                                              [–]Alix1723ShotForge VR 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                              Secret billionaire caught funding group of users to upvote posts on /r/Trees!

                                                                                              [–]Nagorak 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                              I hope they do. That's a much more noble cause than giving to Donald Trump.

                                                                                              コメントをもっと表示する (6 返事)

                                                                                                コメントをもっと表示する (23 返事)

                                                                                                  [–]earl012 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                  How is it secret if we know?

                                                                                                  [–]TinfoilSnake 135ポイント136ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                                                                  Well...this kinda explains why I never got my cv1 although I was one of the kickstarter backers (I'm mexican)

                                                                                                  [–]cavortingwebeasties 43ポイント44ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                  Gross... but figures, rich kid from rich family is grotesquely out of touch with the human equation, news at 11

                                                                                                  [–]kitfmScruta Games 259ポイント260ポイント  (178子コメント)

                                                                                                  Posted this on the dupe thread, but as of now I'm cancelling my game's Touch release unless Luckey steps down or withdraws his funding for this shit.

                                                                                                  Edit: Dear Luckey

                                                                                                  [–]Hyakku 74ポイント75ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                  100% behind you if so; it's a super bizarre story and weird medium so hopefully its not true because it's going to be annoying as fuck to sell a VR head set and deal with potential craigslisters in my damn house testing this thing...

                                                                                                  [–]JackDT 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                  Posted this on the dupe thread, but as of now I'm cancelling my game's Touch release unless Luckey steps down or withdraws his funding for this shit.

                                                                                                  Something to remember is that Oculus is not Palmer. It's a lot of people. And lots of people at the company are no doubt actively working hard in the exact opposite direction to Palmer's campaign here. In fact I think the majority of donations from Facebook itself are in the other direction.

                                                                                                  I feel you though. Trump and the alt-right folks are something else.

                                                                                                  [–]BrymOculus Henry 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                  Honestly, this is the thing that has given me comfort. The fact that Palmer has these views is no secret if you've been paying attention. When I figured it out six months ago I nearly cancelled my pre-order, but then realized that Palmer has largely already got his money from the Oculus buyout, so it doesn't really make a damn difference.

                                                                                                  I hope he at least gets chewed out for being a dumbass by someone at Facebook though.

                                                                                                  コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

                                                                                                    コメントをもっと表示する (173 返事)

                                                                                                      [–]Negchampa999Rift 81ポイント82ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                                                                                      Doesn't really surprise me. He is a 24 year old who has basically unlimited money. Man , when i was 24 i did some stupid shit. I can't imagine the stupid shit i would do if I would have had 700M at that age. Honestly Oculus is far past Luckey now, I am happy with my Rift, use it every day and hope Oculus has a great future. People are entitled, no matter how much money they have to their own views. People who base their decisions on buying a VR HMD on this are very naive.

                                                                                                      [–]BeastMcBeastly 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      dont worry guys im sure he's just trying to correct the record :>

                                                                                                      [–]wantonviolins [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                      In what universe did Luckey see this turning out well? To say nothing of the actual politics here, funding an alternative political group devoted to shitposting is a recipe for disaster. No matter what this is going to damage the Oculus brand, and VR as a whole. Was that intentional? Is he trying to get back at the company he founded after they've continually decreased his level of involvement? Is he just a memelord who doesn't give a shit? Or is he an idiot who cannot sit down, shut up, and keep up appearances for the sake of his vision?

                                                                                                      [–]DrosibasPolicija 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      If this is true, he owes me a ton of money. I've been shitposting for free.

                                                                                                      [–]ThatOneMartian 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      lol, this explains his tenuous relationship with the truth .

                                                                                                      [–]Thorn14 32ポイント33ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                                      Welp, I'm never buying an Oculus now. Its not just one thing he's a trump supporter but he goes on The_Cheeto and pals around with Milo.

                                                                                                      http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160628/b3d6375582b72abf9431ed19b587027d.jpg

                                                                                                      You know, this fine fella.

                                                                                                      [–]angrybox1842 52ポイント53ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                      It's one thing to be pro-trump, it's another to fund the alt-right meme factory. That's a level of devotion to the worst parts of this election in a really gross way. Never liked that guy, didn't buy Oculus because I didn't like that guy, and feel more justified than ever.

                                                                                                      [–]Del_Torres 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                      That this is a thing (that a meme think tank is funded with millions - but also the shitstorm), is very telling in so many ways about this election campaign.

                                                                                                      Just a random thought from outside.

                                                                                                      [–]dryadofelysium 31ポイント32ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                      Well, he has followed Donald Trump on Twitter for a long time. Always wondered if he supported him :/

                                                                                                      [–]foxh8er 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                      I followed Trump (and liked his posts) during the primaries even though I voted for Clinton.

                                                                                                      Never in a million years would found a SuperPAC for the alt-right though, amazing. He's aware that Oculus probably employs H1B's, right?

                                                                                                      コメントをもっと表示する (1 返事)

                                                                                                        [–]nuclearcaramelRift 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                        A few things: That reddit posts claims he encouraged Trump to run in the last election, that would have been in 2012 when Palmer was a nobody, I don't think he was rubbing shoulders with billionaires back then. Also why would Palmer use a fake account to conceal all this, and then proudly admit it to The Daily Beast, a place that oftentimes makes the National Enquirer look reliable of all places?

                                                                                                        edit: To the people downvoting me, that's fine, but trusting The Daily Beast with an article they released at 1am at face value with some glaring inconsistencies is probably not the smartest thing to do.

                                                                                                        [–]ggabriele3Rift 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                        These are the kinds of things that happen when someone very young is given a lot of power and public attention.

                                                                                                        [–]manocheeseRift 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                        This makes me sad.

                                                                                                        [–]wellmeaningdeveloper 20ポイント21ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                        Oculus Connect is going to be really interesting.

                                                                                                        [–]glitchwabbleRift 24ポイント25ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                        Why don't these fucking wealthy people bankroll kind, decent and wise people who have the ideas, insight and ability to make the world a better place?

                                                                                                        Bill Gates is a notable philanthropist. Why does someone like Luckey, ostensibly out to change the world for the better, back a demagogue who is a threat to so many people?

                                                                                                        [–]xccr 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                        Wow, those are some pretty career-ending posts he made. Good job on "working your way to the top," Palmer. It's a shame that you seem so hellbent on talking your way back to the bottom.

                                                                                                        [–]AugmentlRift 24ポイント25ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                                        Genuine question:

                                                                                                        While The Daily Beast article everyone is going nuts over attributes some pretty shameful quotes to a clearly despicable Reddit user, NimbleRichMan, they interchangeably refer to this user's quotes as Palmer Luckey's:

                                                                                                        Luckey insists he’s just the group’s the money man—a wealthy booster who thought the meddlesome idea was funny. But he is also listed as the vice-president of the group on its website.

                                                                                                        “It’s something that no campaign is going to run,” Luckey said of the proposed billboards for the project.

                                                                                                        Those quotes are actually from /u/NimbleRichMan, but TDB makes the assumption this user and Luckey are the same person, and just goes ahead and attributes the quotes directly.

                                                                                                        Now, that may well be true, but how does someone who, according to /u/NimbleRichMan's quotes, is supposedly extremely conscious of the damage that statements of overt Trump support would cause himself and his company, suddenly fess up to a political tabloid? Where's the actual evidence of the link between Luckey and this Reddit user?

                                                                                                        I see quotes like

                                                                                                        “I came into touch with them over Facebook,” Luckey said of the band of trolls behind the operation. “It went along the lines of ‘hey, I have a bunch of money. I would love to see more of this stuff.’ They wanted to build buzz and do fundraising.”

                                                                                                        But with no source or attribution. These quotes seem out of character for a guy supposedly terrified of being found out.

                                                                                                        I'm not saying the article is not true, but I am genuinely interested in the evidence behind it. References to Nimble America's supposed acknowledgment of Palmer's membership go nowhere (not a single member of the group's board is referred to by name ) .

                                                                                                        Am I missing something? Where's the actual evidence that Palmer is NimbleRichMan? Why would he just up and fess up to TheDailyBeast with what looks like a frank and candid admission?

                                                                                                        We should at the very least all be asking the piece's author for some proof.

                                                                                                        [–]xyphic 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                        As I understand it, The Daily Beast is not satire. The site attributes quotes directly to Palmer, and the article states that he told them directly that he used the NimbleRichMan username. Should this prove to be false, expect a very hefty defamation of character lawsuit imminently. I honestly don't see why a large and relatively reputable news outlet would put themselves out there like that without verifying that their information is correct.

                                                                                                        [–]st23576 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        The 24-year-old told The Daily Beast that he had used the pseudonym “NimbleRichMan” on Reddit with a password given him to by the organization’s founders.

                                                                                                        It does sound a little fishy that there's no direct quote from Palmer and they apparently didn't have any further discussion with him. Did they call him and he was just like "Yep, I'm NimbeRichMan, bye."? Was this just a PM from /u/NimbleRichMan claiming to be Palmer?

                                                                                                        If it isn't true I would expect Oculus to deny these reports soon.

                                                                                                        I guess people aren't finding it hard to believe given Palmer's fondness for memes and he and his girlfriend's support of Trump on Twitter and Facebook.

                                                                                                        [–]Peesmees 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                        That is exactly what I'm wondering. It seems like they just imply that Luckey is the same as the reddit user but there is no actual proof they know it's him from how that article is worded.

                                                                                                        This could be a smear campaign for all we know, but I'm not familiar with the site so can't tell what's going on here.

                                                                                                        [–]nuclearcaramelRift 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                        All extremely valid and relevant questions and points. It really comes off to me as a hitpiece, released at 1am, to garner as much outrage as possible before they release a "correction" or retraction later in the day, but by that point a lot of damage has already been done.

                                                                                                        コメントをもっと表示する (4 返事)

                                                                                                          [–]JackDT 42ポイント43ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                          A lot of people are having a strong initial reaction. Certainly I am.

                                                                                                          But Oculus isn't Palmer Lucky. Not anymore. Tons of people work there. I'm certain that there are also many who are actively working in the completely opposite direction to this campaign. In fact I think the majority of donations from Facebook itself are in the other direction.

                                                                                                          So I'm trying not to let this cloud my judgement.

                                                                                                          Now if we see Oculus the company putting financial support behind Trump shitposts... I'm fucking out.

                                                                                                          [–]FR_STARMER 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                          Wow. It's like he's trying to sink the Oculus.

                                                                                                          [–]kiwimonk 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                          Sigh What a dumbass

                                                                                                          [–]enMTW 95ポイント96ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                                                                          He also appears to support Gamergate, judging by his Twitter favorites. Lots and lots of straight up Gamergate shit favorited. I tried to raise awareness of this months ago to no avail.

                                                                                                          [–]myalias1 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                          Is there a consensus on this sub about GG?

                                                                                                          [–]ComebackShane 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                          I doubt there's a consensus anywhere about GG.

                                                                                                          [–]jensen404 33ポイント34ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                          His girlfriend literally dresses up as the GG mascot to meet with other people dressing up as the GG mascot.

                                                                                                          コメントをもっと表示する (20 返事)

                                                                                                            [–]spiezer 31ポイント32ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                                                            So I'd like to hear an official PR response from Oculus on this since it's pretty disappointing to hear.

                                                                                                            Sure he can support trump. Whatever. It's his way of doing so that is questionable.

                                                                                                            [–]SovietMacguyver 17ポイント18ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                                            Thats pretty ridiculous. These are his personal views, with his own money. It has nothing to do with Oculus, whether you want it to or not. I dont support what hes done, but why cant he support whoever he wants to?

                                                                                                            [–]Fargabarga 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                            Right, and oculus buyers can choose to continue supporting the product or not. For some, Palmer Luckey funding a white supremacist subreddit is enough to turn them away.

                                                                                                            コメントをもっと表示する (10 返事)

                                                                                                              [–]HumanJoystick 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                              Politics do bloody make a difference whether you should buy or not. You'll never see me at a chick-fil-a or in my native country at anything to do with Blokker. Of course these CEOs and visionairs have the right to express their worldviews and political ideas all they want to. But if I dislike them enough and if they come across as total arsholes (I had so much money, I didn't know what to do with it, so it seemed like fun to put it into a smear campaign turning every Mexican male into a rapist), I sure am going to let it influence where my dollars (no matter how modest compared to the arshole in question) flow. And they now certainly go to another VR-device.

                                                                                                              [–]subcideRift 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                              "causing a RIFT on one of the alt-right’s most powerful organizational tools."

                                                                                                              Well played.

                                                                                                              [–]astonsiliconRift 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                              Palmers alt- right?

                                                                                                              [–]TotesMessenger 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                              I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

                                                                                                              If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. (Info / Contact)

                                                                                                              [–]BSanbizzle 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                              https://twitter.com/TommyRefenes/status/779260189056774145

                                                                                                              [–]guruguysRift 13ポイント14ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                                              Since Facebook has way more to gain or loose with Oculus than Luckey (hes already cashed out) and Facebook as been accused of supporting Clinton (certainly Zuckerberg has spoken out against Trump http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/18/facebook-employees-donate-more-to-clinton-than-trump-coincidence-kudlow-commentary.html ), does this mean everyone dropping Oculus is dropping their support of Clinton as well? Not to mention that Sheryl Sandberg has gone on record to support Clinton (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3715219/Now-Facebook-s-Sheryl-Sandberg-endorses-Hillary-Clinton-just-months-site-involved-liberal-bias-controversy.html).

                                                                                                              I am sure there are many higher ups at Oculus that support Clinton as well. Choosing your product based on an employees political beliefs is quite silly unless the sole purpose of that company is funding against your beliefs.

                                                                                                              [–]Robiswaiting 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                              This is profoundly disappointing to read...

                                                                                                              [–]torode 32ポイント33ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                                                                                              If this is true, I have to admit it affects my impression of Palmer Luckey as a person, but it will have no bearing on my support of Oculus. Boycotting Oculus only hurts Oculus; not Palmer.

                                                                                                              [–]breakfast-pants 29ポイント30ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                                                                              Boycotting Oculus only hurts Oculus; not Palmer.

                                                                                                              Not true; hundreds of millions of the Facebook acquisition were structured as a future performance bonus, likely tied to metrics around future Rift sales. That also made up the stock portion of the deal, and Facebook Stock has gone way way up since then. That portion of the deal may be worth nearly a billion now, and it may be possible to keep it or some portion of it from being paid out.

                                                                                                              Since money is considered political speech after Citizen's United, you need to think long and hard about where you are spending your money.

                                                                                                              Donald Trump said he was open to requiring Muslims to indicate their religion on their ID. That is bad in a similar way to the Nazis requiring Jewish people to wear yellow stars.

                                                                                                              コメントをもっと表示する (4 返事)

                                                                                                                [–]gozu 52ポイント53ポイント  (38子コメント)

                                                                                                                Wow, how incredibly disappointing that Palmer is an alt-right racist. I thought more highly of him.

                                                                                                                Not going to lie, I should've suspected it when it came out that his girlfriend is a trump supporter spouting anti-muslim, anti-black bigoted comments on twitter.

                                                                                                                this is really sad and upsetting. How can you be like that, Palmer? Why the hatred?

                                                                                                                コメントをもっと表示する (1118 返事)