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[–]FuckinHomerunChippah[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (1子コメント)

This thread is getting a bit heated.

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[–]MY-HARD-BOILED-EGGS 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Got a message reply calling me irrational and saying that because I argue with racists online, I don't have a right to think that jail is too excessive for unpleasant speech. The mod then told me I shouldn't call a PoC extreme, implying I'm white, and then muted me so I can't respond.

Holy shit. Is this person also a mod over at /r/me_irl? Because they have a wicked tendency to act the exact same way, from assuming somebody's race to muting the person. Or maybe these are just common traits among people who've been proven wrong but can't accept it.

[–]Ptylerdactyl 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

I saw the public half of this. You weren't kidding, it was nuts in there. Anyone know of any decent anti-racism subs? Because apparently ghazi isn't going to cut it anymore.

Oh, and wtf is "talk white"? That's pretty fucking racist. Jesus.

[–]Vancetrack[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah. We can have ideological disagreements all day, but that's just insulting.

[–]wasniahC 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are never going to be any good anti-racism subs on reddit. Anything focusing on equality/social justice in this sense on reddit gets overwhelmed by nutjobs like this.

Best you'll find is probably something like /r/topmindsofreddit or /r/internethitlers, where the focus is more about how insane they are than on circlejerking against stereotypes of imagined racists.

[–]jeffandhiscat 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh, and wtf is "talk white"? That's pretty fucking racist. Jesus.

I guess they still believe that you can't be racist towards white people.

[–]Ptylerdactyl 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I took it more as "you talk too eloquent to be Hispanic", but either way you slice it that's not cool.

[–]DoctorDeWitt 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Apparently they "know [I'm] not Hispanic because [I] talk white." Hooooly fuck.

How is this any different than the white supremacist type having offensive caricatures of certain races? It's just reinforcing the idea that a certain group of people talks/acts the same way as every other person of that group. So what exactly is a Hispanic person supposed to talk like?

[–]Vancetrack[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

How is this any different than the white supremacist type having offensive caricatures of certain races? It's just reinforcing the idea that a certain group of people talks/acts the same way as every other person of that group. So what exactly is a Hispanic person supposed to talk like?

Yep.

Oh, sorry. I mean, Si, señoooor. Ay caramba.

[–]DoctorDeWitt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The people saying that stuff to you are probably like

[–]FuckinHomerunChippah 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

was raised in arguably the most racist state in the Union

Alabama?

[–]Vancetrack[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rural Arizona.

So, I probably misspoke. It was maybe not the most racist state. But that town was a hellhole.

[–]skulldan 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

You should get some screenshot of the modmail and blur out mod names, I'd be interested to see exactly what was said.

[–]Vancetrack[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can later when I'm at a desktop.

[–]alphaProto 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those people over there are damn crazy. Some of the shit they post there is so ridiculous I genuinely believed it was satirical for a while.

Who knows though, I'm probably biased.

[–]patapatapatapata 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

Apparently they "know [I'm] not Hispanic because [I] talk white." Hooooly fuck.

If it makes you feel better they do that for black people and women too. I remember when GG first started people kept being called out and insulted as white and they kept replying with their face pictures. It was hilarious and also very sad.

[–]GearyDigit -11ポイント-10ポイント  (5子コメント)

and they kept replying with pictures they ripped off the first page of Google Images. It was hilarious and also very sad.

FTFY

[–]FuckinHomerunChippah[M] 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just replying so I remember to ban you when I get to a computer.

[–]skulldan 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Way to follow OP into this thread. I hope you find something useful to do with your life at some point.

[–]BrobearBerbil 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's depressing. I'm liberal and when activism turns into a club of who's allowed in and who's out, it starts to hurt everyone.

Overall, I think this is the eventual arc of any activism that is only about stomping something out instead of building something positive. Watch dogging is good, but when it's only that, it starts to turn inward and reasonable people start to peace out over frustration. Once too many of your reasonable people take off, then it snowballs. I've seen it happen with non-profits, religious organizations, and clubs. I've also seen it go both directions in terms of politics. Any side can create a spiral of only attracting the more and more extreme version of their own viewpoint if they stop being willing to talk out pushback from people on the inside.

[–]HELP_MANBABIESGOTME 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

reddit is a poor platform for real discussion, none of the political leaning subreddits have any basis in how adult educated liberals or conservatives behave

avoid making sweeping generalizations about "the left" or "the right" based on reddit bullshit. its almost comical how disconnected from reality reddit is.

also unsub from any "left" or "right" sub because they quickly become echo chambers

[–]wasniahC 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently they "know [I'm] not Hispanic because [I] talk white." Hooooly fuck.

Are the mods stalking you over this? That's pretty horrific.

I want to put it out there here though..

trying to make the case that if we act like the right wing claims we act

It isn't just the right wing that claims [they] (gamerghazi) are complete nutjobs. I'm a leftist myself, and in a country that's a lot more left-leaning than the US. I'll go ahead and get it out there that I'm more on the kotakuinaction side of things than the gamerghazi side of things, so if you want to assume some bias from me, fair enough.

I don't think anybody should avoid doing things just because "that's how they think we act" - things should be done or avoided because they are the right or wrong thing to do.

I'll also say that behaviour like this is exactly why people like me are generally on the kotakuinaction side of things. "People don't join, they are thrown in the pit with the rest of us" is a common saying there. You probably aren't going to go and jump into the pit with them, I'm pretty sure, but hey, that's something you can sympathise with I guess.

Not that kotakuinaction doesn't have its fair share of assholes and idiots, but I've never been banned from arguing with them and calling them out.

This sort of shit's pretty stressful. I've been thinking about unsubbing from kotakuinaction, it's depressing seeing some of the crazy nutjob shit some people on the extreme left are trying to push, and it's depressing seeing some of the responses from other users there. I'm guessing things'll be a bit less stressful for you at least, since I'm sure gamerghazi has those same problems from the other side of the coin.

[–]TheZaya 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's GamerGhazi, what did you expect? They've defended abusers and pedophiles, this is nothing for them.

[–]z1967 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably worth mentioning, I do have a predisposed psychotic fucking hatred mild annoyance with anything that was spawned because of Gamer gate (ew). Gamer Ghazi is essentially in the same vein of "avoid this" as KiA for being, arguably, two different sides of the same coin. A coin I find devoid of value and that should be chucked like the penny, as soon as physically possible.

"talk white" as if dialects are restricted solely to race. probably also think that men and women can be easily distinguished in the same way of written word. I understand the general lack of interest in linguistics but very rarely can you pin someone's race down by the way they speak. Not to mention that native speakers will generally sound what they call "white" because that is what is currently standard in the school system. Where as someone who is not a native speaker may have a dialect depending on their instructor or program, meaning that that any method of determining race or ethnicity by written word alone is inaccurate.

Not to mention that I have maybe 3-5 different speech patterns depending on who i'm talking to and about what. My "reddit" voice differs greatly from my "Speech and debate class" voice or my "Theology teacher just said ________ offensive thing and I am retorting" voice. And my "banter with friends" voice is even more different than my "trying to convince random players to work with some coordination" voice despite being used in nearly the same contexts.

I really couldn't recommend a replacement. Honestly, there is no existing neutral forum for discussion on this because the ideas presented are very fundamental and very volatile. People very rarely feel "meh" on race and want to discuss their "meh" opinions on race. And the effort involved to keep such a thing running smoothly would be tremendous, making it virtually impossible to find someone willing to do if for free like reddit mods do. I kinda just chip in when it shows up in the places I frequent, like here.