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[–]ImperiochicaNeuro '15 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

Glad they reinstated it. Still wondering, though, if every decision they make is just based on outcry instead of guiding principles:

University of California Berkeley (Cal) reinstated a student-led course on Palestine this morning following an outcry over its arbitrary suspension last week. The suspension, taken in apparent response to pressure from Israel advocacy groups, was widely condemned -- by students, professors, and observers -- as a violation of academic freedom, shocking, and unjustifiable.

[–]25_6_4 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

The stated reason for the suspension was that it was not properly approved. Whether or not you believe that is a different matter. But I'd say the fact that it was reinstated so quickly lends it some credence to that.

[–]ImperiochicaNeuro '15 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't really buy that. From what I've read it was properly approved and they pulled it without any discussion with the decal leader. The fact that it was reinstated so quickly could also reflect the rapid, massive backlash the removal garnered.

[–]cal_student37 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The stated reason for the suspension was that the course was not approved by the Dean of L&S (if you look at the first statement last week). If you look at the official form for approving Special Studies 98/198 (colloquially 'DeCal') course and and the related Faculty Senate Regulations, neither requires the Dean to approve the course. The course only has to be approved by the Department Chair and the Faculty Senate Committee on Courses of Instruction.

The rules only say that the Dean should be sent a copy of the approved course for informational purpose if they so request. The DeCal website though says that the L&S Dean does not request such a copy to be sent. It follows that the scores of other DeCal courses being taught this semester were also not sent to the L&S Dean since everyone followed the same instructions on the DeCal website.

[–]tayaravaknin -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wonder where those students were when the ASUC passed BDS. Where was their "academic freedom"?

[–]ayyy__1mao 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably ignoring it because the ASUC has almost no power over university policies and divestment never actually occurred.

[–]ThePorkAwakensCNR Hippie 31ポイント32ポイント  (65子コメント)

Wow. Kudos to the university and all the groups that spread awareness of the issue.

Hopefully it never happens again.

[–]ARayofLightUrsa Major: History '14 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

They were caught with their pants down and had to pull them up. Plain and simple.

[–]asshair 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can you give a tl;dr for those of us that missed it?

[–]darth_charizard 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Where can I get my hands on the syllabus for this class?

[–]Im__Bruce_Wayne__AMA 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

[–]darth_charizard 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Thanks! I'm not so familiar with these terms, what exactly does decolonization refer to?

[–]odiedog52 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh man, a certain someone is triggered right now.

[–]Garet-Jax 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

I am still waiting for the course on the decolonisation of the Unites States.

[–]ignocultureCS/Math '19 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

I would take that course. People should understand that not every theory is meant to be implemented. Not every theory follows a REVOLUTION! It's interesting to think about decolonizing the United States, no offense to anyone.

[–]Garet-Jax 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's fine.

My point is that while I often see discussions that propose the decolonisation of Israel, I never see such discussions about the U.S., Canada, Australia, Brazil, etc.

[–]ignocultureCS/Math '19 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, I see what you mean. You're right.

[–]Hist997 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't get the point of a course if the information gleaned in it or taught in it has no practical use outside the classroom. Basing an entire class on encouraging your students to believe in the destruction of another country has no other effect but to encourage those students to go out and actively try and do it..perhaps some of them taking it a step further through violence.

[–]GetSoft4U -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

i'm actually interested in the entire concept of it...what would happen to latin america with this ideas...would the aztec, mexico is a spanish thing so it have to go, would go back to human sacrifices?

what would happen to language? Antonio de Nebrija clearly stated that the Spanish language would sustain the empire long beyond the sword so would the people there would have to learn a new language?

what would happen to the concepts of social organization that arrived from Europe? Cuba is a socialist country but socialism is an european creation they entire political system would go...not to mention that the 12 million inhabitant of the island are decedent of immigrants.

the concept of decolonization have no base on reality and would never work...not even the Africans went back to their traditional ways they choose to build copies of european nations...

[–]tayaravaknin -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

Hey everyone, I'm planning on starting a course. I'm going to call it "Israel: Decolonized", and I'm going to push for decolonizing the Arab empires that took over what was once Israel. The class will be on how to decolonize it and get rid of the colonial Palestinian desire for statehood.

Who thinks that's a fair class that should be allowed?

[–]uncannylizard 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

these levels of triggering shouldnt even be possible!

[–]tayaravaknin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This, coming from the guy who claimed Berkeley students were "triggered" by the class being suspended!

I love it. Keep it up, Lizzy. Feel free to keep stalking me, it's kind of cute. You can't stay away too long, can you?

[–]meteorblade 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

hows worldnews

[–]Im__Bruce_Wayne__AMA 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wouldn't it suck if you were banned from your favorite subreddit because you kept personally attacking people?

[–]Ps3FifaCfc95CS '17[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

give it a rest, mate

[–]tayaravaknin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So is that a yes? Are you interested in the DeCal?

[–]victorofthepeople -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

This tells you all you need to know: "Electronics Policy. Absolutely no electronic devices may be used during class. No photographs, videos, or voice recordings are permitted. Violating this rule may result in your removal from the course. Note: those with appropriate DSP accommodations are exempt."

Can't have anybody recording your bullshit.

[–]ImperiochicaNeuro '15 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was the policy when I took IB 35AC. It is total bullshit.

[–]Super_Natant -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The syllabus doesn't include mention of Israel. Only the "Zionist colonial state." No bias there. None at all!