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If this leak is from Rooney, he's really fucked himself and helped Mourinho... (self.reddevils)

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Say this leak is true, there's only one guy it can realistically be... let's be honest Carrick and Valencia are hardly the most outspoken players in the team and would have no reason to speak out to journalists, it's Rooney who's been getting the bad press recently and rightly so.

Just like his childish whisper in the linesman's ear last weekend and the way he HAS to reply to the ref with a "fuck you/fuck off" or similar every time he gets told off. Our club captains apparent retaliation to Mourinho might have turned the whole club against him this time.

Rooney has NEVER been a good captain, for us or England, regardless of what some people think. He's won sweet F.A. (Apart from the cup with the same name) since Moyes handed him that ridiculous 300k+ contract and the club captaincy just over 3 years ago, and he's been on a steep decline ever since.

At least Mourinho has a good reason to bench/drop Rooney now and make him the 'scapegoat' for the past week, it could even help unite the rest of the players.

This kind of stuff has been going on too long since SAF retired, enough is enough.

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[–]Count__Duckula 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd guess mourinho already told him hes not starting against leicester and hes gone off on one. LVG pampered him with that 'the captain must always play' bs.

[–]TyperSniperKeane 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

This leak doesn't help Jose at all, it presents the notion he's losing parts of the dressing room already which is an absolute fucking nightmare

[–]damien_aw[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

It does, it solves the biggest problem he has in Rooney having to play or keeping him happy. He can turn it around.

[–]leonardowmd 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

It doesn't help really. Jose has no proof that it's Rooney, he can have suspicions, but unless the journo comes out and says where he got it from we don't know. That's an uncertainty in the dressing room, who can he trust? His captain?

This is also just the start of the media blitz that will likely come from Rooney and Stretford aka Triple S sports.

[–]damien_aw[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

He will find out if any of it is true, he will know.

[–]IwanJones10Pogba 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I definitely think he's going to have a meeting. No one leaves until someone admits it or fines until someone owns up.

We cannot allow this to happen

[–]House_Of_LannisterAnd who are you...? 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A manager of mine would do this when something went wrong at work. We would all be called in on an inconvenient day to attend a staff meeting/staff disciplinary.

Short story is, it NEVER helped. We hated him more for doing so.

[–]leonardowmd 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Like he said he can have his suspicions, but is his captain going to admit to being a snake? Who wants to admit to being a snake?

[–]damien_aw[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It doesn't matter, Mourinho is an intelligent guy, Rooney is not. If it's true, he will know either way.

[–]elneebrePogba 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

If it is Rooney, we'll find out soon when he's dropped, no fucking way would Mou let him off or any player off with leaking info to the press

[–]ins4n1tea 2ポイント3ポイント  (22子コメント)

How do you know its Rooney? Or even a player?

[–]sepehrackMartial Madness 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I have no idea why everyone is soo fuckin hell bent this is Rooney! We've had similar leaks in the past and 99% of them were bullshit. This is just coming at a time when this sub is sooo down on Rooney, everything ends up being his fault!

[–]IwanJones10Pogba -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, most things have been Rooney's fault

[–]sepehrackMartial Madness 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you say so! Not at all our defensive frailties in the past week. We went from "Oh Wow We're back and killing it again!" to holy fuck Rooney is such a dirtbag and we're fucked!

[–]damien_aw[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah a lot of us have been calling for Rooney to go for 3+ years!

[–]ins4n1tea -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

A broken clock is right twice a day

[–]IwanJones10Pogba 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rooney has been a problem for the past 2/3 years. He's holding this team back and I can't fucking stand it. I said back in July/August that Rooney was going to be our biggest problem, and he is.

A few weeks ago when I was writing an article about the teams weakness', I thought I'd seen the light about Rooney. His performances against City and Watford completely changed my opinion of him. He needs to get dropped or leave. I've had enough with him.

[–]damien_aw[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (13子コメント)

I'm presuming it's a player from Gary Neville's tweet but who else could it be in the dressing room? Everything else suggests it's Rooney, from the details on him being worried for his place in the article, to his/his agents history with the English media/journalists.

[–]ins4n1tea 2ポイント3ポイント  (12子コメント)

Why would Rooney leak something that could jeopardize his relationship with Mourinho. The manager that keeps playing him when everyone is calling for his head

[–]damien_aw[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (11子コメント)

Because Jose obviously ripped him a new one after Watford and knows he's going to be dropped v Leicester. The media and fans have turned on him and it's what Rooney does, it's in his nature to retaliate.

[–]ins4n1tea 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

Because Jose obviously ripped him a new one after Watford

Where are you getting this information from? See these are all speculations people are treating as facts. Had someone call it evidence.

[–]damien_aw[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (9子コメント)

Of course i'm speculating, I'm not claiming to know either way. Just my opinion based on the facts.

[–]ins4n1tea 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

You didn't state any facts though.

[–]damien_aw[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sir Alex Ferguson’s “hairdryer” treatment became infamous at Old Trafford but Mourinho’s rebukes are believed to carry a nastier edge that has not gone down well in the dressing room. “His delivery of criticism is nasty,” one source said. “It is far more personal than Fergie ever was.”

Doesn't say it's a player but who else is left from the SAF era?

Several of United’s senior players went to see Louis van Gaal to urge the former manager to lay off Shaw after the Dutchman’s frequent public criticism of the England left-back during his first season in charge.

It's been suggested many times this was Rooney and co. Unsure if that's been confirmed.

Wayne Rooney has always been a vocal voice in the dressing room but the United captain is understood to feel under immense pressure after a disappointing start to the season and is worried about his place in the team against Leicester after a dismal showing at Watford, when he came in for severe criticism on social media from fans.

How does he know Rooney is under pressure? That his place v Leicester is in doubt?

[–]ins4n1tea 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Doesn't say it's a player but who else is left from the SAF era?

There are staff members still there

It's been suggested many times this was Rooney and co. Unsure if that's been confirmed.

Never been confirmed

How does he know Rooney is under pressure? That his place v Leicester is in doubt?

Could be inferring or from whoever the source is

[–]damien_aw[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Like I said, I'm speculating but I know where most the evidence is pointing.

[–]damien_aw[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Also, his history of retaliation with players/refs and having the last word, it's a habit.

[–]ins4n1tea 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

His on the field antics is not a fact he did it.

[–]damien_aw[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is how he behaves, you could argue it's a fact, that is his personality.

[–]IwanJones10Pogba 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

All the evidence currently points to Rooney.

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty so I'm not saying it is 100% him but it is a possibility

[–]Warningsharp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait what leaks? I've been busy all day haven't checked out the news!!!

[–]Mepsi -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It could just as easily be Pogba

[–]sayheykid24 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a disaster for Mou, regardless of who leaked or why it was leaked. He's less than a year removed from overseeing an absolute debacle at Chelsea that culminated in him being sued by his physio, losing the dressing room and finally being sacked with his team sitting the lower half of the table. He already came in to the job battling sentiment that he sowed dysfunction whereever he went, and a growing suspicion that his tactics were outdated.

Yes, it's okay to be furious that this stuff is being leaked when it should handled in-house, but don't delude yourself in thinking that this is helping Mou in anyway at all. If he doesn't defuse this situation this could be the end of his career managing big clubs.