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I will be absolutely fucking disgusted if the dressing room turns on Jose and crack under pressure and do what the Chelsea players did. (self.reddevils)

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I am absolutely fucking livid right now with that leak. I was praying that 3 years of absolutely garbage football for us fans that pay our hard earned money week in week out to watch it would be enough of an incentive to take the criticism Jose gives out and strive to do better.

Seriously, if the team noticeably start dropping effort in games like the Chelsea players did under Jose, I'm not going to a game again for years. I love this club and invest so much into it that if no leaders in the dressing room grab the absolutely pussies who can't handle the pressure by the scruff of the neck I will lose any love for those players.

Sorry for the rant, I was just hoping before the season began this sort of shite wouldn't affect our club, let alone this early. I would rather we finish 7th, fuck I'd honestly rather we finished below 10th than sack a man who has eyed this job for years and allow a bunch of spineless cowards drive him out of the club, and have him replaced and keep that rotten core at the club, it'd be like firing a house owner from their home for having rats, without addressing the rats themselves. I'm not having this become a sack-employ-sack club like Chelsea, I'd rather lose most of the players than have those trying to make the team look bad getting paid to play for a club and manager they're trying to undermine.

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[–]manudevil7Beckham 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Honestly, I don't want Mourinho to go anywhere.

Realistically, if the players do quit on him, he will be sacked. It's a numbers game. It's easier to replace one manager than it is to replace X amount of players.

Personally, if that happens, I would be disgusted.

Woodward should tell the players Mourinho is not going anywhere. If you don't want to be here, I can show you the door.

[–]TyperSniperKeane[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

If we sack Jose it's going to begin an endless cycle of sack and replace. We've have mediocrity under Moyes and Van Gaal, give Jose time to get it right. If Jose ends up sacked by the end of the season I may genuinely lose all love for the club because I refuse to watch a starting 11 of spineless pussies getting overpaid to purposefully underperform. Spend my hard earned money in a pub watching/going to the games? Fuck that

[–]manudevil7Beckham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Let's even assume we sack Jose, then what? We appoint a new manager, players think he is being too hard, then, what, we sack him, too?

Do we just hire and sack managers until there is one who shines the boots of players, kisses the ground they walk on, tells them how great their performances are, and does their washing up? Yeah, right.

[–]elneebrePogba 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have to totally agree, what's the point in watching football if they're all a bunch of moaning cunts playing shit on purpose

IF this is a leak by senior players who have a big dressing room influence, they should immediately be dropped and never seen again

Worst thing we did was letting Rio and Evra go

[–]rpt23Football, bloody hell! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can someone please tell me what was the leak. I just got off from work and missed any post that may have been regarding the leak.

[–]youngsahaLVG 13ポイント14ポイント  (13子コメント)

If it´s Rooney, I don´t want to see him in Manchester United shirt again. This is now the third manager that has had a leek coming from the dressing room.

Rooney should man up and take some fucking responsibility

[–]manudevil7Beckham 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would be extremely surprised, if this was anyone other than Rooney. It has to be someone who has knowledge of SAF's inner workings and is able to juxtapose those with Mourinho's.

After the press he has received this week, this is Rooney trying to get the supporters on his side, unite against the manager, and get him ousted.

[–]MonsieurRyanGoss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Realistically it can only be like what 4 or 5 players. Rooney, Carrick, Jones, Smalling, Valencia, Young....can't think of anybody else.

[–]leonardowmd 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

How can you say "if it's Rooney"? It quite clearly is. Him and Stretfords grubby hands all over that leak.

[–]gl0betrotter 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why do you think it's rooney?

[–]hairyknowsbest 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Based on the other thread, it's most likely someone who also played under SAF, which eliminates the majority of the players, and he's very well-connected with the media (and has previously caused trouble through the media). Out of all the players who's also played for SAF, Rooney seems like the only one who'd have reason to leak this (considering how the media and the fans have been questioning him lately).
Finally, something I haven't seen highlighted elsewhere is the fact that Neville pretty much just confirmed the leak is real, and Rooney obviously have a close relationship with him.. based on all these things, everything is pretty much pointing towards Rooney..

[–]TudoorsScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

There is Rooney, De Gea, Smalling, Jones, Young, Valencia, Carrick, Mata and Fellaini.

Then the ones who liked LVG, Blind, Martial, Lingard, Rashford (maybe), Mata again.

Listen, I know all the craze is around hating Rooney, but if he's still starting in these games, then I don't know if it's really him.

There's far more options than just Rooney.

[–]Surfacing710Keane 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

You can knock out those who liked LVG seeing as they never played under Fergie.

[–]TudoorsScholes -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

They didn't need to play under Fergie to be leakers...

[–]YoungPappy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did you even read what was said?

[–]Surfacing710Keane 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the article, it says that his criticism is nastier and more personal than Fergie's, none of those players you mentioned who you say liked LVG played under Fergie so why would they make that comment?

[–]cookie1254Rafael -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rooney is still by far the most likely option though. He has the media connections through his agent and he's got a reason to want the blame put on Mourinho.

[–]TudoorsScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Christ no. Why would anyone turn on a manger who is playing him even when he's playing poorly? Mourinho is giving Rooney the benefit of the doubt by maintaining his confidence in him.

[–]cookie1254Rafael 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To divert criticism away from themselves, not difficult to understand.

[–]sittingbull15 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

What leak? Everyone is talking about it and most of us don't know what the f is the leak thing they you lots are talking about! Jesus Christ

[–]saucytony12Martial 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Read the article by James Ducker. It's at the top of the front page ffs.

[–]sittingbull15 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It did not say anything really. Of course different managers have different personalities and professional players should be able to take criticism for improvement. God damn, even at my job I always have to deal with my manager, senior manager and the director on shit and it's not pleasant but it is what it is

[–]manthrowaway25Cantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As far as it being worse than Ferguson? Well...

As astounding a manager as the great man was, he was certainly guilty in many instances of far worse barbs than highlighting in a public forum how a players' lack of positional discipline lead to a goal.

Openly calling a player a ''bottler'' and ''big-time charlie'' for instance is hardly instilling confidence is it? I can remember at least a dozen occasions where he openly criticized individual performances down the years also.

And really, who cares? You're professionals. If you want to be patted on the back by glad-handing sycophants, go on the X Factor with a fucking sob story. As much as I love Shaw, he was in fact WAY out of position leading up to the goal. Plus it wasn't as if Jose referred to him as some hopelessly fucktarded egg who should be shot at dawn was it?

Nobody can really deny that the majority of the team played like shit. So they should grow some bollocks and take the wrap or you know, actually turn up and perform.

[–]cmf_ansValencia -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I agree, this is really bad. Did it occur to anyone that maybe CO92 is behind this? Why would Neville publicly confirm that it's an inside leak? There's no need for that whatsoever.

[–]DMP96 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

CO92?

[–]anterax 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The 92nd batch of carbon monoxide that Mourinho carries around with him. That's why all the newspapers label him as 'toxic'.

Seriously though, class of '92

[–]cmf_ansValencia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Class of '92. Sorry, am trying to take as little time typing so I can read everything posted on the subject.