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Astral Parasites - Need any and all advice possible (self.occult)

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Hello /r/occult. I have been dealing with at least 4 very intelligent, very cunning, and very manipulative astral parasites for about 2 years now. They've tricked me time and again into having me think they are actually here to help me and not harm me. Finally, after all this time I do realize their true nature, but I have no idea how to get rid of them at this point. I can go into much more detail about all this, but my first question is has anyone had full success in ridding themselves of these things? They've put me in the mental ward 4 times now, and the last episode they almost convinced me to cut off my pinky finger. You could say things are getting pretty serious. And the nightmares they give me are just absolutely horrendous. I made the mistake of trying to befriend them, to appeal to some conscience they apparently don't have. I'm also constantly fatigued just about every day now. Thanks for reading. All advice and any questions are very much welcome and needed.

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[–]FracasBedlam 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sometimes its the occult. Sometimes its psychiatric in nature.

Look. You want to get rid of these entities? It has gotten bad enough that you are asking for advice on r/occult, (which is a fine place for advice.). You are willing to go that far, but why not go one step further, and take the advice and see a medical professional?

And let me say this, if going to a doctor about this issue seems utterly fucking abhorrent, and yet you very very badly want to rid yourself of these entities, then wouldnt it stand to reason that the revulsion associated with seeing a doctor is the result of said entities influencing your mind? I mean, dude, they want you to cut off a finger. Obviously they don't want you to see a psych.

[–]three_of_cups 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi, I hope you don't mind the intrusion but I quickly scanned through your posting history on reddit. Please seek medical help. You have a serious drug abuse problem. You may have other medical issues as well. This is not a job for wizards. Lay off the drugs though.

I say this as a person that is generally positive on the use of the right drugs, under the right circumstances, for personal spiritual development and occult practice as well. You're not in control of yourself or your consumption habits right now. You really need to find a balance.

[–]warringtonjeffreys 16ポイント17ポイント  (9子コメント)

Considering that you're concerned about the potential of bodily harm...I think in your case I would seek out somebody skilled in Jungian psychology.

[–]gantzu3[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm not concerned with bodily harm, but they paralyze my body at night and give my horrible nightmares. Not to mention the constant chatter they do during the day drives me crazy.

[–]YellowPaperBoat 40ポイント41ポイント  (2子コメント)

This sounds like a job for anti psychotics.

The occult is all good and well, but once you no longer control who or what speaks inside your mind, it's time to take a step back and think about some professional mental healthcare combined with the accompanying medication. Get better soon.

[–]Shattered_Zen 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

This. Sometimes you just need therapy, it is an unfortunate reality that when we assault our personal paradigm so much in this work that sometimes stuff kicks lose or gives out. Hope you get better soon.

[–]magnusarcana 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Couldn't agree more. I have schizophrenia, which makes occult work very interesting. I have to constantly keep things in check and always consider that I may just be talking to myself instead of a spirit/demon/entity. Mental health is no joke.

[–]NNFX 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude that is hypnagogia

I was paralyzed by "them" at nightimes as well, but just before I almost gone crazy about it I found out about hypnagogia/ sleep paralysis and all the sudden it wasn't as horrifying anymore.

(They are not real)

Just read up anything you can find about sleep paralysis and hypnagogia and you will see there are many people describing exactly what is happening to you.

[–]Passion_Fish 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

May I suggest a middle ground between validating your occult experience of these real (in some sense) parasites and the professional psychological/psychiatric approach for dealing with, um, hallucinations? Perhaps if you seek a temporary chemical fix, the neural pathways the parasites have hijacked will dry up, and they'll eventually move on. (Be forewarned, they may try to trick you into going off meds before you are ready...)

[–]D_B_R 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

but they paralyze my body at night and give my horrible nightmares

Sounds like sleep paralysis to me.

[–]Straitshot47 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, maybe this entity is trying to help you astral project.

[–]Ytumith 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Meditation might give you a space to put them into where they belong, but if you audibly hear them then you need a medical support. Hallucinations vs. streams of ideas.

[–]FracasBedlam 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, though it is not any of my business, having looked at your post history, seems you dont mind dabbling in mind altering substances now and again. that might certainly exacerbate the problem. no advice here, just pointing out the obvious.

I know life without drugs seems impossible. its not. Its awesome. Ive been there.

[–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

https://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/esoteric-treatise-of-theurgy/441-fourth-invocation.html

https://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/esoteric-treatise-of-theurgy/438-conjuration-of-the-seven.html

[–]TheMorninGlory 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Very interesting reads. But man they don't seem to approve of wasting the ole ejaculations. I've heard of a few groups warn of that.. Starting to wonder if I should in fact be more frugal with my sperm.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe

[–]bajatheserpent 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Va nee sah is a rune of banishing. Vibrating it 9 times and confirming "you are no more" can be used to destroy them. You need to start taking in energy and building a strong aura to protect yourself.

[–]Backwards_Forwards 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Devour them. Or if you have stronger entity allies, have them devour them.

[–]Ytumith 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point, this strings a memory.

Or, dare them to devour you! I did that when I started experimenting with lucid dreaming.

[–]SavageDark 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cast them out in jesus's name, and ask God to protect you; theres no helping a demon

[–]pecanuts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

All of that, which you call names like parasites, entities, daemons, is you. It's not outer force, no external energy, no unknown devil.

So the answer is, that you need to look into the mirror of silence, of that what lies within in you. There is a lot of insanity in all of us. Magical work will surface it, the insane as well as the brilliant. Balance is an art, magic is a tool. And what ever harm we cause to our self, will create our own progress. Good and bad. We are the creator of it.

[–]FoolishAir502 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Banish. Then Banish some more. When in doubt? Banish.

[–]93L 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

How the hell do you almost get tricked into cutting off your finger?

[–]gantzu3[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Good question. It would take so much to explain it all. They condition me up to it, and have me believing the most ridiculous things. I admit they get the better of me time and again.

[–]TheBakercist 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

You need to see a doctor. Because that's just scary and it's nothing related to anything spiritual.

[–]samplist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mental health problems can't be spiritual in nature?

I understand your point though. In the West, we simply don't have the framework to deal with such things outside of the materialist medical paradigm. That doesn't mean, however, that the problem isn't better dealt spiritualy.

I strongly believe that modern medicine only treats symptoms, not root causes.

[–]littletinypebbles 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only demons are the ones you're harboring in your own mind, created by you.

There are no entities.

This is a subconscious reflection of your mind. The "entities" are your own thoughts and reflections of what you think about yourself.

They aren't real.

What is real, however, is your mental instability.

Lay off the drugs and get help before your do something stupid and end up in the news for killing someone or yourself and blaming on the occult.

The reason you can't get rid of "them" is because this is all in your head.

Get help.

Get help.

[–]Umay_and_Kayra 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Performing a rose cross ritual seems to be the best option. Rose cross ritual usually uses incense, if you want to put a little bit more power to it, you can combine the incense part of the ritual with folk magic. You can burn blackberry twigs as incense (they are called "witch's whisks"). You can also use an Hoodoo recipe called "the flying devil" as oil or incense. It is mainly used to chase away evil spirits. It is created with ingredients cayenne pepper, black pepper, cassia, dragon's blood and asafetida. Herbs like mandrake, feverfew and garlic are also known to chase away bad spirits. You can also perform a ritual bath

You can summon Hecate Apotropaia (Hecate that protects/turns away) or archangel Michael if you are a Christian.

If you really want to get serious, you can perform a pentagram banishing ritual with an iron dagger (athame) consecrated to Mars. Or you can put blue or red strings in water to trap those spirits and when you do it; put salt in water and place it against the dawn. This will burn away the spirits.

[–]randomguyondanet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What protection methods did you do? Psychic protection by robert bruce is an excellent book on protection, read it you can find it on the net use your googlefu.

[–]NNFX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hypnagogia can be really terrifying, I know. Everyone feels the same after experiencing it for the first time.

People will tell you, that this WAS NOT a dream and that there was something else present which was not created by the own mind.

Everyone feels that way.

There are differences in what exactly people encounter dependent on what they are most invovled in. (religious people enounter the devil, people who love all that sci-fi stuff like x-files or outer limits will find them self in the typical alien abduction scenario >been there< and people involved with the occult will meet astral parasites or transdimensional demons)

And this feels fucking real, I know. But at this point people can choose to either believe that what they encounter at night is real or to look for medical/ psychological explanations.

When you choose to believe those demons are real at that point, stuff will intensify, if you choose other explanation, stuff will stop!

If you go like "there is something trying to contact me, I maybe try to listen" you make your mind up for it and are totally accepting this as reality.

What I think happens next, is that when you experience sleep paralysis/ hypnagogia the next time your mind will react different because you actually want to answer the call. This will also trigger your consciousness of self transforming hypnagogia to an actuall lucid dream but since you still believe "they" are real and present, you don't got full controll over the lucid dream like it usually is.

You gave up this controll by your self so a subconscious part of your mind is still creating the environment (like it is in usuall dreams), but you experience it fully aware of your self.

Then of course your mind has to make up, what ever it thinks "they" could show you/ tell you/ do to you.

I did read a blog of a woman who described her first experiences in that direction and it did exactly match what happened to me at this time and this was pretty scary to me.

But then she went on and explained, that at some point she stopped seing them as a threat but thought they might just want to contact her and that she made up her mind for them. After this those Aliens who terrifyed her every night before became her friends and took her with them to travell the universe. She saw many different planets and alien civilisations, talked to all of them, even had sex with some and so on.

At the end she didn't live on the same planet as we anymore like for real. Went bad shit crazy.

-Hypnagogia -Accepting it as real -Make new friends and go lucid -Dream up whole new worlds -Loose every connection to reality -Get paranoid hallucinations and start hearing voices at daytime -Time to see a doctor.

I saw many examples of this, but I also see me and others who didn't go crazy about it. Sleep paralysis still happens to me then and when, but when it does, it's just a small annoyance. More like a hiccup. No demons or aliens in my life as far as I can tell and I think that is more healthy in any way. :D

Feel free to ask me anything. Me sry bad no london.

[–]Lucifereus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Banishing often

[–]KHIARAN -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Astral Parasites = Intelligent

Facepalm.

[–]O_imperador -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You call archangel Mikael with latim prayer, dont do it if you at low vibration.

[–]Ytumith -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dark humor runs deep.