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BLMTO scores victory as Pride Toronto apologizes for "anti-blackness and repeated marginalization of the marginalized" (toronto.ctvnews.ca)

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[–]northdancerCrack Central 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

The word community has become such a weasel word.

The community apologies on behalf of the community to the community for the communities community community communities.

[–]nat_ligh1 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can't wait for Greenpeace to protest at Pride next year, only to discover that the Salvation army has been hired to provide security.

[–]olafthebentNorth Toronto [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How lovely if they used trained seals as security and Greenpeace comes at them with clubs

[–]the_bartthe 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

repeated marginalization of the marginalized

is just an asinine way to phrase that sentiment.

[–]wedontswiminsoda 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

probably done tongue-in-cheek is my guess.

[–]the_bartthe [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

personally, i think people are just that dumb

[–]wedontswiminsoda 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sue Ann Levy is going to shit her pants over this in her next op ed.

[–]mybadalternate [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

So that's her creative process!

[–]patfav [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Apparently she missed her keyboard and it landed in her pants this time.

[–]toronto34Pape Village [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

and if Pride allows them to take over and dictate then Pride no longer gets my support or funding. This is asinine.

[–]mybadalternate [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

You must be racist!

/s

[–]toronto34Pape Village [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I know. I must be even though I'm gay, right? Sigh.

[–]apreotea [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

I guess you know who rules over you right?

... and me too, more's the pity.

[–]FoxShmulder [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Isn't it, though. They shut down the parade for 1 million plus LGBTs and their supporters and the Pride committee is apologizing for not showing enough deference.

[–]quelarSt. Lawrence [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

So do you personally donate to pride?

[–]Throwawoah69 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

You know what? BLMTO is right.

Pride Toronto is a deeply racist organization. It's good to see that they are acknowledging how anti-blackness has been a cornerstone of their political philosophy for well over a decade.

It's clear now that when Blockorama didn't get as much funding as BLMTO would have liked, or when Black Queer Youth wasn't put front. and. center. it wasn't because there is limited funding and space to go around and sometimes compromises have to be made. It was actually because Pride Toronto hates black people and wants to sweep them into the margins of the festival, literally marginalizing them.

When Pride Toronto lets TPS have a float, it's not a way of building bridges and a symbol of how far we've come, but instead it's a deliberate slap in the face to every black person in Toronto, and a essentially the same as holding up a sign saying "blacks not welcome".

It's also clear now more than ever that when members of the gay community take issue with anything BLMTO says or does (like blocking a parade focused on LGBTQ rights, for example), it can only be because they are racists on the order of the neo-nazis or the KKK.

Unfortunately, this apology doesn't go far enough. If Pride Toronto really wants to repent, they will hand over the reins to BLMTO and change their focus. The organization should henceforth be known as Black Pride Toronto.

[–]apreotea [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You've described the phenomenon known as "social justice convergence."

Great comment, very clear.

[–]fukier [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

do you actually believe the bull you just wrote or did you miss the /S at the end.

[–]Throwawoah69 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm amused that you have to ask.

[–]fukier [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

oh thank g-d for a second there i was like wow SJW have gone way way too far down the rabbit hole...

[–]PANCHO_CLARKE [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Please. You seriously have to indicate Sarcasm and/or Irony when making a statement like this. It seems to be a Law on Reddit that if something can be misinterpreted in the most damaging way, it will be.

[–]Antinephalist 3ポイント4ポイント  (11子コメント)

I wonder what would happen if officers refused duty at Pride after their presence on floats and booths is forbidden?

[–]PurplebuzzParkdale 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

They could be disciplined if being assigned. If no one accepts paid duty then they would have to start with overtime and the costs might become a barrier in the future. Might see a case of the blue flu. This is going to provide much entertainment for the next year.

[–]Antinephalist 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't know how much allowance there is to refuse duty on grounds of conscience - I suspect not much given the oath that they take. However, the paid duty issue could turn out to be a real hurdle.

[–]The_Cheeki_Breeki 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Officers couldn't turn down assignment, but paid duty is another ballgame (no pun intended, ballgames are another paid duty).

You apply/sign up for which paid duties you would like to do. I would imagine it will be harder to get officers to sign up for paid duty.

[–]PurplebuzzParkdale [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yup. and their permit will require a pre determined number of paid duty officers.

[–]calendarization [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

despite being annoyed, or even gravely offended, if Pride Toronto decides to refuse applications from policing services to march in uniform and have floats in the parade, i suspect individual police officers will still want to perform paid duty security and crowd control at the parades and festival in general. compared to a lot of other festivals, Pride is generally without violence. despite what is likely a lot of profit earned by criminal enterprises in drug activity during that week, they tend not to try and use the crowds as a blind to snipe at each other. there aren't so many fistfights that news orgs report on them. it isn't bleeding so it isn't leading. i imagine that for a lot of police, since the early 90's, the Pride parades are probably seen as easy work.

[–]PurplebuzzParkdale [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It might be a non issue. The union might make it an issue. What is certain is it will be great entertainment.

[–]PurplebuzzParkdale 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

For sure. The getting sick all of a sudden too n

[–]wedontswiminsoda -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

don't they have something like 18 bankable sick days every year too...

[–]PurplebuzzParkdale 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some would for sure. They may have grandfathered that out for newer hires but not sure.

[–]insanetwit [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If it's a paid duty, then they can refuse it. If it's an assigned duty then there could be consequences.

But I think if it's assigned, then the city is on the hook for paying for them, where as Pride would have to pay for the paid duty...

I really don't know if all of this is true, but it would be interesting.

[–]the_bartthe -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

so you're saying that eliminating police floats and booths won't actually diminish their presence?

[–]mybadalternate 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this gesture will likely not be enough for BLMTO.

[–]masterman19999 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The Gay community has always been racist. Not just against blacks but also particularly asians.

[–]FoxShmulder 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Way to stick it to those knuckle-dragging gays, BLMTO./s

[–]topherben [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think I just heard SAL's head explode....

[–]myalias1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Pride, you fucking idiots...