I don't think BLMTO is a hate group. I disagree with you on that point.

Pride Toronto made it clear in the press release that they feel they are out of touch, because despite their mandate to listen to the queer community, and despite their explicit history of being a political organization standing up to dangerous and violent opposition from the State and large groups of various oppressors, they did not listen to and act on pleas from various members of Black queer communities for inclusion in Pride. That's how their town hall worked; it's how, I gather, their DRP works. This, then, is them making it clear how Pride is getting in touch.

You must be aware of how Pride started. Every summer there's a rash of articles and short news features about it: the repression, the violence, the legislated discrimination, outright criminalisation; the bathhouse raids; the first march on Yonge; the demands by the queer community for acceptance and representation and inclusion. How, with this rich short history of change, can Pride Toronto ignore queer people telling it that they need to do a better job of listening to Black queer people, and making greater efforts to include Black queer people in the festival?

So, you won't do anything to start a different organization, but you want the present one to fall apart. If you got your way - if Pride Toronto was defunded - then should we simply hope that others, not you, will rise up to create a different organization to celebrate Pride in Toronto? Or are you expecting someone else to do work you are unwilling to do yourself?