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[–]diligentClerk[S] 54ポイント55ポイント  (14子コメント)

The other comments in the thread are also very good.

These people are why sedition used to be a crime back in the day. McCarthy was dead on accurate about the whole thing, too. No wonder they portray him so negatively, he would have had them all in cuffs as traitors.

And:

Great post but I would just like to add the Frankfurt School theory in to the discussion- the Communists were very frustrated when the working class did not rise in revolt in countries like Germany, France and England. They concluded that the social structures were too strong in Western Europe; the working class had too much to loose. So they set about destroying things like religion, gender roles, the family structure and gender identity. To further weaken social bonds they encouraged immigration and multiculturalism. This is the Cultural Marxist strategy.

[–]breecher 50ポイント51ポイント  (8子コメント)

Cultural Marxist

You just know which kind of comment it is going to be when they use that term.

[–]seemedlikeagoodplan 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

Can someone non-insane please explain that term to me? Or is it just a right-wing /alt-right term for "the bad guys"?

[–]PauliExcludedSocialist Anarchist Multilateralist Bleeding-Heart Libertine 31ポイント32ポイント  (2子コメント)

Cultural Marxism: A Measured Response by Hbomberguy

It's a long (25 minutes), but entertaining video where he tries to figure out what the alt-right means by "Cultural Marxist". He's one of the few Youtubers that is actually a feminist (and a leftist). He's a gem in the cesspool of YouTube, in my opinion.

[–]tudelord 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I highly recommend Garrett, demotivator, Thom Avella and Libertarian Socialist Rants as well. They're not far from hbomberguy in terms of politics, (though I don't think hbomb is an anarchist like some of these guys are).

[–]sutoWall Street is a socialist entity 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just wish he wouldn't laugh obnoxiously over the clips he's trying to show us. Makes it very hard to watch.

[–]Traumaturge 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

People who don't undetstand Marxism think it means "everyone should be equal." According to them, "globalists"- people who dpn't think everything should be US-centric- extend that to "all cultures should be equal." By accepting other cultures and their practices, society will start to be organized around structures other than the Anglo-Christian nuclear family.

That's a simplified version of what I was taught in the late 90's as an Evangelical. I don't know much about the modern alt-right.

[–]rushy68c 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cultural Marxism has a very specific meaning in Marxist circles. According to Marxists, it's an investigation into the conditions and products of cultural hegemony. Cultural hegemony is a very precise term, too. It was an idea put forth by Antonio Gramsci which pretty much says that culture produced by the ruling (bourgeois) class serves to uphold and protect the capitalist mode of production. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony This was popular in the Frankfurt School. You have works like Debord's Society of the Spectacle that delve into this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Society_of_the_Spectacle

It's honestly difficult for me to follow a lot of the alt-rights re-definitions as I came to it through Marxism. A lot of them delve pretty deeply into anti-semitism, but I believe in general they view cultural marxism as an explanation for why the American Left moved pretty strongly towards identity politics in the last 30 or so years. I think it's a hybrid of the old Conservative battle against Communism, aligning with people who see their traditional values jeopardized by feminism and the acceptance of homosexuals and PC culture.

People like to throw this (awful awful) chart around http://www.critical-theory.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/commiechart.jpg to explain it all. I bet its been posted here before.

[–]absinthe718 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've yet to see a definition of "cultural Marxism" that couldn't be applied to MRAs, libertarians and others that are fond of that term.

Like "socialism", it's the angry squeaking and squawking of angry little trolls saying "me no like, me sad!"

[–]NewepsilonRegressive Cultural Keynesian 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Incoherent and incompetent

[–]Bigfluffyltail 64ポイント65ポイント  (3子コメント)

the working class had too much to loose

Only our chains.

To further weaken social bonds

Yes, socialists are known for hating social bonds and loving the alienation of people.

[–]Moose_BoltonTotalitarian's Guide to Iron-Fisted Spin 51ポイント52ポイント  (2子コメント)

The only bond I want to weaken is the one between you and your toothbrush.

[–]thegingergamer 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

swiggity swooty coming for that booty toothbrush

[–]twersx 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So they set about destroying things like religion, gender roles, the family structure and gender identity. To further weaken social bonds they encouraged immigration and multiculturalism. This is the Cultural Marxist strategy.

Right because religion was not entrenched in Imperial Russia. China in the early 20th century didn't have strong family units. Vietnam was a bastion of fluid gender roles and identity.

[–]pinkamena-pi 56ポイント57ポイント  (2子コメント)

The massive backlash against Trump is proof that Marxism has deeply interwoven itself in our society

No its because he is a massive cunt.

[–]MitboyFar center 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder how they would explain that in Russia a politician like Trump is a normal thing, yet marxism-leninism has pretty deep roots in our country.

[–]Libertyprime117 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

THE FACT YOU DISAGREE WITH US ONLY GIVES US MORE PROOF WE'RE RIGHT !!!111

[–]OblongWombatAnarcho-Republican Neo-Monarchist 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh shit! They're onto us!

[–]VoteRonaldRayGundecentralized free market contributionist measured by votes 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thus, in globalists' home countries, the Marxist victim-oppressor dialectic was reoriented from the axis of economic class to axes of biological identity (i.e. race, gender, and sexual orientation), securing much-needed cover for financial elites and their supra-national "non-governing" bodies by diverting leftist academic scrutiny from overt economic inequalities to natural ones.

Can anyone count the number of buzz words put in this to sound smart?

I think I got 15 if you include the unnecessary "Thus, ".

[–]MouenLibertarian Marxist-Gulagist 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

We leftists are kind of guilty of using "intellectual language" although our ideas seem to be a bit more nuanced so it's understandable. This guy is essentially just using big words to say "GIT OFF MY TOOTHBRUSH".

[–]VoteRonaldRayGundecentralized free market contributionist measured by votes 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are usually reasons for that though, such as continued use of 19th century terminology and use of academic terms in regular speech.

[–]MouenLibertarian Marxist-Gulagist 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand this obsession of the right with some kind of huge nwo marxist conspiracy. When the only evidence is them grasping at straws and pointing to any liberal or progressive politics (like obamacare) which are clearly just a sign of years of struggle of the leftists and some (like Žižek for example) would argue that these policies even help further the capitalist ideology. sniff

But of course Žižek is just an undercover marxist illuminati emperor of the world billionaire.

[–]PlowbeastKeeper of the 35th Edition of the Politically Correct Code 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I too have seen OWS hanging out with the Rothschilds in the back of the bar.

[–]thegingergamer 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

man I wish we had a global conspiracy to bring about Marxism o the go right now :/

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[–]icantdecideonausrnme 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think there's some kind of global Marxist conspiracy that is actually taking hold, but I do think that in the US, whatever the origin is, cultural Marxism is a real... movement, for lack of a better word, that has its roots in third-wave feminism. The neo-progressives, the far left, those ess jay double yous we all like to hate on so much may be applying Marx's ideas to social and cultural issues, whether they are aware of it or not. There's an ongoing culture war born out of Andrew Breitbart and Gamergate: the far-left authoritarians like modern feminism, Buzzfeed, MTV, Tumblr, Laci Green, Anita Sarkeesian, BLM, Bernie supporters, etc. vs. the moderate left and right libertarians like Breitbart, Rebel Media, Milo Yiannopoulos, Christina Hoff Sommers, Steven Crowder, Sargon of Akkad, Amazing Atheist, etc. Take a look at what's happening on college campuses and in the media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIO4oSLwK3A

[–]thewriter1Perpetrator of the liberal Masonic conspiracy 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

To be honest, /r/the_donald is just a bunch of trolls taking the piss. At least, that's what I've gathered.

[–]ZapActions-dowerCommunist Pro-Government Interventionist Bleeding-Heart Libertin 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know at least one person IRL who legitimately believes this crap.

[–]MouenLibertarian Marxist-Gulagist 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is it Alex Jones?

[–]PlowbeastKeeper of the 35th Edition of the Politically Correct Code 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's crossed the line too much far too many times with awful bad politics to be considered at least just that.

[–]ARTIFICIAL_SAPIENCE 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's what we all said about /pol/ back in the day. They got taken over by white supremacists and conspiracy theorists.

This is their legacy.

[–]thewriter1Perpetrator of the liberal Masonic conspiracy 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought the same of /pol/ admittedly.

[–]mypersonnalreader 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

biological identity (i.e. race, gender, and sexual orientation)

wtf