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[–]TheReplacerMkhitaryan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

or simply have never had serious challenges to overcome in their own lives.

God Damm it!

[–]TudoorsScholes -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

Is this original? If so good work. One thing I would like to point out is that even though I am a United fan, I still think Real Madrid is the pinnacle of management.

That being said, even if you don't put them in a tier above Man Utd, as far as managing them, they're definitely not in a tier below either.

Also last paragraph's a bit confusing for me. You say Mourinho is ignoring outside influences, but we'll see the best when he does ignore them.

[–]solo_ar82[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I wrote it when I got home from work. Only spent 15 mins on it so I apologize for it not being a little more structured...but thanks.

We can just choose to agree to disagree about Real Madrid. I do not believe the pressure, globally, is the same. Part of it is simply the massive dominance of the EPL globally. Perhaps I'm skewed because I live in North America and very few people watch RM play with any regularity, however everyone who watches football, watches the EPL.

I am sure it is confusing. I wrapped it up far too quickly. What I meant was that he is ignoring outside influences right now. That feels like a power move. What I mean is, he will succeed when he is unaware of outside influences, or at least when they don't even enter his thinking. To do something out of spite, is still giving credence to the very thing you are spiting.

For example, he drops Rooney now, he thinks he's caving. He keeps him, he's making a point. When this type of logic no longer enters a decision making process, he will succeed.

People think Ferguson made a mistake letting Pogba go. I disagree. If Raiola was doing what we know he must have been, demanding Pogba play x amount of times, asking for massive raises, it was right to let him go. That's the type of thinking required at this club. But that's another issue.

[–]TudoorsScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

It definitely has potential. But you have to understand, Real Madrid are the first global brand of football. Idk where you are in the US, but I know a ton of Real fans.

There are 3 super clubs in the world, United, Barca and Real. After you have your other large large clubs, Bayern, Juve, Chelsea, PSG, Arsenal, City, Milan, and Liverpool. Then you have other very large clubs like Atleti, Dortmund, Spurs, Inter etc.

United as far as global outreach while they are big are not undoubtedly the biggest.

[–]solo_ar82[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Okay, I can agree with you on RM and Barca as global presences. However, do you think managing RM or Barca has the profile managing United does? How many managers at RM in the last 20 years? That role will always be seen as transient. Perhaps rightfully so, the club far outweigh anyone managing it, but can we say that about United?

[–]TudoorsScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

How many managers at RM in the last 20 years? That role will always be seen as transient. Perhaps rightfully so, the club far outweigh anyone managing it, but can we say that about United?

After Ferguson I think we have to come across that reality, yes. We've had 3 managers in 4 years, and we're onto our fourth in five. Sure, I think we'll be able to find a long term fix as the manager, but in order to do that we need to look for that. Mourinho and Van Gaal were both short term options. LVG obviously was only here for 3 years, and Mourinho is Mourinho.

Our club is still finding it's identity post Fergie. LVG helped by clearing the backroom staff and most of the deadwood, but it's key to win a title after Fergie, European or domestic.

When Fergie was here it was United about Fergie, since then it hasn't been about United, we need a manager to make it United about x, like Barca under Guardiola, or what seems to be becoming Madrid under Zidane

[–]solo_ar82[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great points. We are losing identity, and hopefully in time Mourinho becomes United about Mourinho.

[–]Andy19x20 TIMES -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Read this, not sure why as I believe it's the same old story for the past 3 years. Some of the stuff you've put in there is embarassing as well.

What is confusing however is how success within football is not measured the way success in business is. I suspect that the people quickest to turn on a player, or much more relevantly a manager, are perhaps people who themselves have either not become particularly successful in business, or simply have never had serious challenges to overcome in their own lives.

Nah

Louis van Gaal, for all his failings at United, can never be described as a person who caves in to pressure.

That's not always a good thing.

But Manchester United are unlike every other football club on the planet.

Real Madrid are at least equal to us, you must not realise it.

he’s not allowing outside influences to affect his decisions.

Does that mean he's being stubborn then and he's refusing to change just because there's millions of people asking for it

[–]solo_ar82[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Listen, I don't claim to be a good writer, so I am not sure why you see the need to respond this way, but to each their own.

Ironic though, that the entire riposte you gave to the first paragraph was "nah." Do you seriously not have any cogent argument to suggest why it's embarrassing? I won't argue, as I don't know this to be true, only a thought I had, but all you can offer is "nah"

[–]Andy19x20 TIMES 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What is confusing however is how success within football is not measured the way success in business is. I suspect that the people quickest to turn on a player, or much more relevantly a manager, are perhaps people who themselves have either not become particularly successful in business, or simply have never had serious challenges to overcome in their own lives.

So your saying anyone that can immediately see the blinding obvious are people that aren't successful nor have overcome a serious challenge.. Bit of a bracket to put those people in.

[–]solo_ar82[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What was the blindingly obvious thing to see? The point I am making is simply this: Mourinho needs time to adapt. He very well may fail, but taking the United reclamation project was a huge challenge to take, and these types of things are not immediately successful. It will be a challenge, to which he will need to overcome. If you cannot understand that, you probably have never overcome a serious challenge before.

[–]aKNIGHT7 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

nah

So much disrespect. That's what makes this sub toxic.

This subscriber genuinely wrote a good piece.