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[–]globst 74ポイント75ポイント  (5子コメント)

....and you're still going to move in with her after these revelations?

[–]RPthrowaway_007 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I'm stunned that he's still considering that. Just imagine how hard he's going to have to work to get her to pay that half.

[–]1nonthaki 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

He "is" a beta chump unless she doesnt gain from him more than he gains from her .

[–]Godtiermasturbator 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a beta chump if he lets this girl gain SHIT from him

[–]VOTE_FOR_CHANGE_2016 46ポイント47ポイント  (1子コメント)

Beta is what beta does. Damn OP do not let her move in with you. FUCKING DAMMIT ARE YOU A FUCKING FOOL? AFTER THE PRIVILEGE YOU HAVE FOR KNOWING ABOUT TRP YOU STILL DO THIS SHIT! THIS WILL END TERRIBLE YOU FUCKING SHIT CUNT MOTHER FUCKER

[–]feminists_are_dumb 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus Christ, dude. Calm down.

Everyone moves at their own pace, and some people don't learn the first time.

[–]trippinallday 46ポイント47ポイント  (6子コメント)

"AWALT"

Proceeds to cohabitate after learning she has an N count of AT LEAST 22 (under the assumption she was being totally honest which is, unlikely).

What are you doing bro lmfao. Have you internalized ANYTHING from here?

[–]recon_johnny 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

N count is at least tripled.

So, dude plans to move in a chick with a real N count of 75.

Yeah...I'm sure it'll work out just fine.

[–]ElectricDruid 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can confirm the tripling. My ex said she had slept with 4 guys with only one of them being a ONS. After we broke up she mentioned it was actually around 16 guys

[–]landon042 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's disgustingly sad, most high school girls are at 10+ already.

Not even talking about upper grades. And even middle school age girls I would doubt are any better.

But I'm not one to complain, we gotta live our own life and enjoy them.

Just sucks for the guys wanting Ltrs, because it will be IMPOSSIBLE for them to pair bond. Only getting worse every year, it's truly a good time to "enjoy the decline"

[–]probpoopin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, multiply by three. She has slept with about 60-70 different guys.

[–]JaneeCathartica -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

N count is irrelevant. Does she love you? No? (Probably no or else there wouldn't be so much ambiguity). Then don't do it. High N count girls CAN pair bond, especially if, to her, you're sent from the heavens (+compatibility). Shall I elaborate?

[–]trippinallday 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

If a girl has had 75 different penises inside of her, I'm not interested. I'm not trying to get AIDS just for 10 minutes of throwing a hotdog down a hallway, you feel?

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

did a lot of traveling to find herself.

That was your clue/red flag right there. She did a lot of travelling and found herself impaled on various cocks in various countries.

[–]NewbieOnPoint2 42ポイント43ポイント  (12子コメント)

Iron Rule of Tomassi #4 NEVER under any circumstance live with a woman you aren’t married to or are not planning to marry in within 6 months.

https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/06/shacking-up/

Edit:

This recent revelation however made me feel once again like a beta chump whom the girl wants to settle down with once carousel years are over.

Betas in waiting

[–]scarletspider3 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why marry her? Isn't it better when she knows that you have to the power to kick her out if she doesn't act right? Assuming it's not a common law state of course.

[–]NewbieOnPoint2 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why marry her?

I agree with that.

But what do you gain from her moving to your house? Read Rollo's post. He's making a good point.

[–]scarletspider3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand why a lot of guys wouldn't want a chick to move in. It would help kill some of the female entitlement if guys aren't so quick to move bitches in.

[–]Newbosterone 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Check your local laws on tenancy. In my state, if she stays more than 7 consecutive days, you can't just kick her out. She considered a tenant, and you must go through a formal eviction process that takes at least 30 days.

Worst case, you break up, she refuses to move out. You visit a lawyer and find out you have to evict her. You give her a notice, and she makes a false claim of domestic violence. You're banned from your apartment and contact with her. Sure, you can stop paying rent, but it's your credit score and your possessions that are at risk. She strings along the proceedings for a couple of months until she branch swings to something better.

But don't worry, NAWALT.

[–]ElKapitan8 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Scary picture you painted there.

[–]dvmoore1995 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

whenever you commit to anything you lose your two most valuable resources, options and the ability to maneuver.

This is brilliant. Thank you!

[–]Sn_Vir 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the iron clad truth. I knew this in my gut, but early 2015 she guilted me into living with her. "Why can't you just commit to me!" Moved out of my bachelor pad 9 min from my city to basically to the country. 1 year later - she dumped me. Yep, I was an idiot.

[–]Handsome_Stud 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're moving in with an AWALT??? I guess we will see more of your life stories here.

[–]melxer 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know the rule in here. She admited that she hosted 22 cocks of different shape and color, so you can multiply this number by 2 or 3 and you'll have an estimate closer to reality.

[–]RealMcGonzo 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

she had a LTR when she was 20 and after that ended she was totally heartbroken and lonely and did a lot of traveling to find herself.

I read that and immediately interpreted it as

She dumped her first BF cuz he was a beta chump then fucked more guys than she can remember.

Because it didn't happen the way she said. She didn't fuck all those guys because she was lonely, heart-broken or trying to "find herself" LOL. She fucked all those guys because she liked it. Then after she fucked more guys than she could remember, the hamster took over. She's not a slut just because she fucked one guy after another, no - not her. She's a special case. There had to be other reasons. And presto! There are, finding herself, lonely, heartbroken. Plus many did not count for one reason or another so she can scale down to a couple dozen. There were all those times she was drunk, plus all those other guys that had some great hooch/drugs back at their place, plus all those "hyt" guys, plus those foursomes - can't pass up those rare opportunities - I mean, it could be weeks before she got another shot like that.

You'll get there. This sort of instant interp will come with time.

[–]ShunterAlhena[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol yes she also admitted to a random threesome. Damn this hurts, connecting the dots and realizing the angelfaced beauty actually fucked as a mad rabbit

[–]RealMcGonzo 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Just as an aside, slept with this one broad, she told me (literally) that she had lost track of how many guys she slept with after about 60. Then some time later, she mentioned she wasn't a slut. LOL! Triple digit notch count, but not a slut. I shoulda asked her what the definition of a slut was.

[–]bonekeeper 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is actually much more useful than straight up asking a girl's number. Find a way to, during a conversation, ask what her definition of a slut is. No woman will think of herself as a slut so the hamster will kick in - if she says something like "more than 4 guys in a year" - that tells you that she's got around that since she's been 17. If she says something like "there is no such thing, a woman can do whatever she wants with her body, slut-shaming is a patriarchal tool of oppression" you got yourself a mobile CDC lab.

[–]andre2003s 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

the definitions of slut and alcoholic are very similar: it is everyone who had just one more than the person you ask who magically is never a slut/alcoholic by their own subjective definition.

[–]sd4c 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are completely fucked, OP. The fact that you would even CONSIDER, EVER, moving in with a man or a woman who has lied to your face demonstrates that you have very little self-respect, and that you have oneitis for her, and that you're unable to get/spin plates reliably. What did she do to atone for her mistake of lying to you? Sniffles and promises? An apology absent of reparations of some kind (giving you passwords, taking you on a trip, paying for couples therapy) is simply an excuse to be shit on again.

You might as well stock up on anti-depressants and whiskey. You're going to need them when you find out she's cheating, or she leave suddenly for little given reason.

If you want to win this- DUMP HER. You can go back in a month after lifting your ass off to see if she's contrite. Then she will know you mean business. Don't discuss what you did inbetween. It's none of her business, tame or wild.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRS73 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll just leave this here: "Teacher admits to sex with 16-year-old; sent selfies during honeymoon, according to complaint" http://fox13now.com/2016/08/05/teacher-admits-to-sex-with-16-year-old-sent-selfies-during-honeymoon-complaint/

[–]103342 19ポイント20ポイント  (5子コメント)

It always amazes me how oblivious some guys are. A girl that is single at 27 is never going to be LTR material.

A real "relationship material girl" won't be going through the dating market for so long. She has seen and done everything there was to see and do by that age. Her looks and patience are all going downhill from there.

If you plan on having a serious LTR don't go much over 25, if you do, just accept that she is settling for you.

I know how appealing more mature women can be, they seem more rational and easygoing than younger girls a lot of the time, and some of them can even make good conversation and also be great in bed.

But, let me be real with you, this will be over as soon as she gets you. If a guy wasn't good enough for her when she was younger, or she couldn't keep a guy around then, she isn't going to be much better now.

[–]bigk12345 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with you.

My BPD ex was mid twenties and sold me blue pill of marriage.

I found out she was an Alpha Widow.

I got the best years of her life I guess. Now she is nearing 30, got back in the gym ( great shape ) and looks a LOT older just from when we started dating. The wall is real.

The funny thing is she thought she deserved better than me and applying tons of pressure to get married, as in a set time line. Blue pill me was wondering why. Now I know that women are obviously aware of their wall.

Now she is back on CC, cheated on me with some bartender. It is just time before she goes off to some poor beta schmuck for marriage after her recent CC experiences only to cheat on him again.

She did offer me some TRP wisdom when she broke up saying that I couldn't provide her with what she needed. It was marriage she was after just to make herself fee "accomplished" in life. I thought she was a bitch, but now I realize how women love opportunistically.

It is scary to think how women just expect marriage/ LTRs to be some sort of Disneyland without putting in any work.

I am glad I found TRP.

[–]roeddit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should do a post on this. I was blind to this point for a while, even after TRP.

[–]Dayman_ah-ah-ah 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea no shit. She's 27, do you really expect a girl to not have more than 2 dicks by that point in her life?

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    [–]103342 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Isn't the whole point of this sub to discuss this sort of stuff and share experiences?

    He is doing what the fuck he wants, I'm telling him that he is doing it wrong, sharing my experience, this is what we do here. This is the whole point of the sub...

    [–]_the_shape_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Are you prepared to give her the boot should she come up short on her contribution, perhaps once or twice, perhaps indefinitely?

    Because from what you've written, you're dealing with someone who determines what 'counts' and what doesn't according to her quite fluid interpretation of reality (i.e. "if we were never 'official' or if it was just like an on and off thing, then like whatever it doesn't like really count ughh")

    Enjoy Hope for the best, don't be surprised at expect the worst - let that be your new understanding of AWALT

    [–]RolleTheStoneAlone 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And even if you somehow discovered a women is actually a NAWALT, there is no guarantee she will remain that way. Time, boredom, age and entitlement settles in like dust on a windowsill.

    [–]feminists_are_dumb 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fuck this shit, I really thought this one was different.

    That's the hardest lie to let go of. Even the ones who haven't actually had a turn on the CC totally would if they could get away with it.

    [–]aherne18 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    sweet 27 year old HB8

    Take her off the pedestal...

    did a lot of traveling to find herself

    This is the reddest of flags. Translated from slutspeak, it means she had sex with people all over the world...

    Well tonight after a bottle of wine it turns out these traveling years weren't that lonely after all. An international cock carousel of around 20 dicks is what it was.

    Don't make any bets on that number. She doesn't count ONS or, given the number is high, she can claim to have "forgot" some partners!. Once again, the reddest of flags: that very statement would have dried me like Sahara. The very fact you continue with her is beyond my understanding...

    I was surprised to learn that she thought she won't have to contribute to utility bills etc because "I would use the apartment anyway" and I earn a lot more than her

    Once again a BIG red flag: she's searching for a BB to home in and you definitely look like a right target (you act thirsty and gullible, you are rich).

    I pushed back hard until she agreed to 50/50 and was quite proud.

    Don't bet on that! Remember that ATTRACTION IS NON-NEGOCIABLE. Instead of pleading like a thirsty guy does, just leave and never look back. Also don't believe you got your way out of this: if you carry on with her YOU will pay for everything (she always has the excuse: "man, I'm short of money, PAY!".

    Equality means equal payments, too.

    She's not your equal! You should have DOMINATED her!!!

    Fuck this shit, I really thought this one was different.

    Before getting a moment of honesty from her, which is always unlikely, keep the slut detector (TM) at highest sensitivity.

    [–]WillMeatLover 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Break up with her you beta loser.

    [–]ShunterAlhena[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Thanks for the passionate replies guys. The Red Pill is a bitter thing to swallow. I reread my own post with fresh eyes and realized how fucking beta this all sounds.

    Moving in together is now out of the question (she made her revelations only last night, I didn't know about this shit before). Marriage I wholeheartedly reject after ingesting TRP. And I've been committed childfree for many years.

    The only thing I'm now debating is whether I should break up with her. Without moving in together, there is absolutely no financial commitment or other risks. And as she is a regular gym goer she has a tight beautiful body, most assuredly pre-Wall, and is passionate about sex.

    [–]Gostkowski 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If she is seeing you as a Beta provider, she'll be pissed that you have changed your mind. From what you've wrote here it seems that she saw a lot of Beta Buck traits (money, good career, wants LTR, is willing to cohabitate).

    There's a chance she'll start looking for another Beta provider willing to fully commit. I wouldn't be surprised if she fucked other dudes while she was in a LTR with you, if she's hot as you have described.

    My advice is that you should not keep your self in LTRs and start spinning plates. But if you prefer LTRs - younger is always better. And never agree to cohabitation.

    [–]allrandomworldnews 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    HB8

    Only 2 guys in her life

    Dude get real maybe an unfuckable 3 or less could reach that or a nun that does not see men all day. Your girl looks(looked???) too good for that.

    [–]Bielzabutt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why would you let her move in at all??

    [–]Ultimate_Failure 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Welp, it won't be long before this lazy bitch is pregnant.

    [–]iamthetable 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Signed 3 different leases with the same girl under (first LTR ever) the pretense we would be splitting things equally. I got taken for 3 rides because I was beta bux. Learn from my mistake, DON'T FUCKING DO IT.

    [–]vagiants 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    all aboard the cock carousel!

    [–]Strum_Gewehr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It is amply clear that this one is just Plate worthy. It is foolish to let her stay in your house.

    [–]RationalKing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you still move in with her after this, you got some issues bro.

    [–]real-boethius 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rule 1. There are no unicorns.

    Rule 2. If yours is a unicorn, see rule 1.

    [–]ReddittFeist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hey @ShunterAlhena

    There's something you should think about here.

    This girl was being absolutely consistent with what she told you before- in chick logic.

    You see, unlike guys, girls divide physical sex into 2 categories: 1 is long term, relationship sex and 2 is sex that "doesn't count"

    So you see, in her chick view of the world, she really had only been with 2 guys. Most chicks are so caught up in the way they experience the world don't get that guys don't feel the same way about provider vs. lover sex.

    Anyhow, it seems like she passes the Boner Test, so why not keep sexing her until it's time for both of you to move on?

    [–]ReddittFeist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It seems like you're the kinda guy who would like to cohabitate. From your short account above, though, it seems like you made a few mistakes.

    If you'd like to find out about how to set up living arrangements properly with a chick, this blog post is the best guide I've seen:

    http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2015/02/19/how-to-move-in-with-a-woman/

    [–]Dayman_ah-ah-ah 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    She's 27, of course her name n-count won't be low. I swear some guys on her expect to find a fucking virgin to settle down with. The real problem here is she expected you to pay the bills. She sees you as a provider and that's where you fucked up

    [–]WineConnoisseur 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So a selling point for her to you is that she's "passionate about sex". But you may breakup with her because she's HAD sex. Makes complete sense. Yep.

    [–]_PowerBull 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    She is slowly trying to rope you in into marriage through a relationship and is not going to be pleased after you refuse her :D

    Also provider status confirmed.

    [–]EStriker18 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No shit. Even the ugliest hag on average has 5-6 sex partners by age 15 , the better looking women you can multiply any number they give you by 10. There's a reason why women have double the rate of Gonorrhea men do (amongst whites, at least).

    They're morally bankrupt, infected with god knows what, offer very little companionship outside of sex, and despite being empowered career womyn want you to pay for everything.

    Fuck her and toss her back into the sea. Your high paying career makes you a target for predators, just warning you.