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[–]vereornoctis 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm glad we're not done shitting on fallout 4

[–]RTSUbiytsa 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, it deserves to be shat on.

[–]aglx60 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow. Only fallout game i have played is NV. Seeing this makes me want for it to stay that way.

[–]DrDoctor13[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would recommend giving 1 and 2 a try if that's the case. 3 also isn't terrible but it's not New Vegas level. I also can't say to avoid 4 like the plague, since it is still fun and brings some neat mechanics and ideas to Fallout, but yeah, if you loved New Vegas, it'll be hard to like 4.

[–]RTSUbiytsa 1ポイント2ポイント  (12子コメント)

And yet many on /r/gaming will insist it's an instant-classic RPG that will stand the test of time

lmfao

[–]JelloDarkness 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

/s ?

[–]RTSUbiytsa -5ポイント-4ポイント  (10子コメント)

Nope, I've been downvoted to hell for telling /r/gaming that FO4 is garbage and I'm prepared to do it again. Many people here will insist it's a fantastic game.

[–]-Urethra- 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Fallout 4 definitely isn't garbage. It's a very solid game, just not as good as the last ones.

Not as good =/= garbage

[–]RTSUbiytsa -3ポイント-2ポイント  (8子コメント)

Nope. It's a roleplaying game without any roleplaying.

It's garbage and I'd be embarrassed if I'd spent any money on it.

[–]vereornoctis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

if I'd spent any money on it

Lol, yep. Honestly, it's easy to play but super hard to enjoy.

[–]DrDoctor13[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's not garbage. A copypaste of a comment I made about it:

FO4 is just disappointing, not bad. Some people (/r/fo4) would claim it as the best Fallout game ever, and in many ways, it is, but most of the fans were wanting Bethesda to build on what made New Vegas successful, such as high replay value, meaningful choice and consequence, thick atmosphere, varied character builds, crafted and interesting quests, and depth of character. If you don't embrace FO4's sandbox elements, which do nothing if not detract from the RPG gameplay that Fallout is known for, FO4 quickly becomes stale and shallow. 2-dimensional characters with murky motivations that either love you or hate you from the outset give you formulaic quests that have no bearing on the world whatsoever (outside of Far Harbor). It's dull.

Far Harbor shows that Bethesda is capable of writing a choice-heavy story, and was the best part of FO4 for me. I hope Bethesda can pay attention to fan response to Far Harbor and follow that formula for Fallout 5. Or we can hold out hope for Project Louisiana and another Obsidian Fallout, which will bring the parts of New Vegas we loved to the fun shooting and great crafting that FO4 brought to the table.

[–]RTSUbiytsa -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's garbage. Anybody claiming it's the best Fallout game ever is heavily delusional. It's a shooter set in the Fallout universe but I personally wouldn't even consider it one of the main installments of the series, more just a bad spinoff, because it contains no RPG elements and Fallout is an RPG series.

[–]DrDoctor13[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're not wrong, I personally consider it a spinoff. However, the game itself is fun because of the tight shooting, much like how I spend way more time clearing out random locations and doing random quests in Skyrim than I do doing the main quest.

[–]RTSUbiytsa -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's got good gameplay, yeah. It's just absolutely shit in every other regard, and no amount of fun gameplay can surpass that.

[–]Ravenwing19 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait so your shitting on something that is very fun but you haven't played?

[–]RTSUbiytsa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never said I never played it. I said I didn't pay for it. There is a difference.