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Did anyone else feel the radio was lacking in Fallout 4? (self.Fallout)
KingTobia_II が 14時間前 投稿
To me it felt like they added about 10 new songs and just copied and pasted the rest from Fallout 3. And Travis obviously does not have the same touch that Three Dog had. Was I the only one thinking there would be a plethora of songs?
[–]WheatChiefToss My SALAD, CAESAR! 91ポイント92ポイント93ポイント 10時間前 (11子コメント)
There was a post a while back on this subreddit that explained why lots of the Fallout 3 songs were reused and there weren't as many new songs added as people were expecting.
Link to post
TL;DR from the post: "For the people complaining about the lack of "new" music in Fallout 4, the archivist and the original licensing company no longer exist."
[–]knirp7Welcome Home 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
This needs to be spread around more. For once, something isn't really Bethesda's fault.
[–]SgtNapalm 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 2時間前 (6子コメント)
But New Vegas had radio mods with tons of older public domain music. Why couldn't they toss some of that in there too?
[–]gnitiwrdrawkcab 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Licensing.
[–]UpgradeTech"Boogie Man" and the missing 15 seconds. 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Public domain is generally music from before 1923. Bethesda is under stricter measures than mods.
Even if the author says it's public domain, it doesn't mean it's legally public domain for redistribution.
Even then, copyright for compositions and recordings are separate things. So a song recorded in the 1950s is still under copyright even if the song was composed before 1923.
[–]bitches_be 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
Surely there were other sources where music could be licensed from?
[–]nystardWelcome Home 739ポイント740ポイント741ポイント 13時間前 (75子コメント)
I wish they didn't do the quest to help Travis. Firstly, I prefer Travis' lines before Confidence Man, so i just avoided this quest completely in my second play through (although i realize this is more a matter of preference), but more importantly, they had to record two whole sets of lines for the one radio station, where they could have recorded just one set of lines, but with more stories/news/jokes/etc. There's so much more repetition this way, and it's not as if there's another radio station with a presenter we can listen to.
[–]creeperslayerHDBrotherhood 81ポイント82ポイント83ポイント 9時間前 (1子コメント)
Monsters, fish. Monster fish? NOT RELEVANT!
[–]HazzMaddThe Last of the Twisted Hairs 46ポイント47ポイント48ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Oh god. We're all gonna die!
[–]ChairmaamMeowMad Maxson 257ポイント258ポイント259ポイント 11時間前 (25子コメント)
Same, I never do that quest because I prefer him all insecure and funny, I like him better than three-dog tbh. Nuka-World has a decent radio DJ as well.
[–]GingerSwanGNRnormies out of necropolis REEEEEE 246ポイント247ポイント248ポイント 10時間前 (9子コメント)
RedEye is the REAL. DEAL.
[–]PenitusOculatusAve, True to Caesar 220ポイント221ポイント222ポイント 10時間前 (2子コメント)
"So he says, 'whoah dude, can you play?'
and I'm like,
'I don't know, can I?'"
bwbbrbwbwbwbajksbfjkabsfasdbnmasnasfb
[–]Retlaw83Goddamn dam god 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
"Wow, you're the real deal!"
[–]ToddzillawDOCTOR-PRINCIPAL-BOROUS 28ポイント29ポイント30ポイント 3時間前* (0子コメント)
The funny part is, is that in almost all of his songs he only plays, like, one chord.
[–]serpentsevensixBig Iron 119ポイント120ポイント121ポイント 9時間前* (0子コメント)
"So, like a year ago, I'm runnin' with this gang, pretty good deal, I mean, I probly could've been in charge, y'know, but whatever, I don't need that kinda hassle, right? I mean, I'm totally capable of runnin' my own gang, probly the best friggin' gang you've ever seen. But anyway, I hear this dude Colter is puttin' together a huge-ass team of raiders to take over Nuka World, and I hear this, and I just gotta go check it out, y'know, see if it's the REAL. DEAL.
Now, the guys I'm runnin' with, they're all sad that I'm leavin'. They're so upset they just keep sayin' 'Oh come on man, you have to stay, you're the best out of all of us! We're screwed without you!' But I'm like 'naw man, I ain't gonna let you guys hold me back.' So I go out on my own, I travel though some crazy shit you wouldn't believe even if I told you about it, and I wind up here. Now, I find out who Colter is, and I just marched right up to his face and say 'Well, here I am! Now what?' You could see right away, he was impressed. So he looks at me, and he says 'Man, you look like hell! How long's it been since you slept! and I say 'I dunno man, doesn't matter, I can sleep when I'm dead!' and you could see on his face, he was TOTALLY impressed, just like, he knew I was the REAL. DEAL.
So first he says 'Man, I am impressed. You're the REAL. DEAL., Red Eye. I'm gonna call you that 'cause your eyes are bloodshot as hell, and it looks really cool. He says 'You're gonna be my right hand man. 'Cause, I can tell, just by lookin' at you, I can count on you.' But then, like, he stopped, and he sees the guitar I'm carryin', and he says 'Whoa, no shit! You can play?' And I look at him, and I say, 'I dunno man, can I?'
Yeah, Colter, like you said, I am the REAL. DEAL. And he loses his mind, y'know, he's so excited, he says 'Oh, no way, I got an even more important job for you - get your ass into that radio station, and make it amazing.' Well, and here. we. are. Swear to you, true story, all of it, every word. Of course, Colter ended up being kind of a chump, but I mean, y'know, I knew that from the beginning. Like, I probly could've challenged him right there, y'know, made MYSELF the Overboss, but, y'know, whatever, I like this gig just fine.
Yeah.
[–]BeastabuelosRailway Rifle Master 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
I was sad that i couldn't actually meet him
[–]TiberiCorneli 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Losing Red Eye is literally the only thing I regret about slaughtering everyone in that place.
[–]drenaldoWelcome Home 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
CURVED. SWORDS?
[–]Gunilingus 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
They should have made it so you can actually replace Travis with Redeye.
[–]Onyx_Sentinel 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
He travelled through some crazy shit you wouldn't believe
[–]Buhbuhbuh_BroskiDisciples 28ポイント29ポイント30ポイント 6時間前 (4子コメント)
They really nailed it with red-eye. I love his stories. I just wish there were more.
[–]apracticalman 37ポイント38ポイント39ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
Yeah I had to turn the radio off at a certain point because he just kept repeating the same 3 stories over and over and over again. Which was sad because he was great.
[–]StealthSuitMkIIFortune Finder 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
He was the real deal.
[–]MrAnonmanMaxson #1 36ポイント37ポイント38ポイント 7時間前 (5子コメント)
I can't handle how Travis sounds like he's being held at gunpoimt or some fucking shit. God I swear sometimes he would say "um" more times then actually words.
[–]Godzilla2yG.O.A.T. Whisperer 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
Um, well I guess, just, um... Here's some more music
[–]JackalKingNCR 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Nervous Travis is WAY better than confident Travis.
I lose it every time I hear him say "OH WE'RE GONNA DIE!" after trying really hard to remain calm
[–]th30be[Insert your favorite faction here] 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
I cant stand his voice or his songs. What he says about SS is funny though.
[–]ColdSmokeMikeVault 13 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
The first time I heard "Hey Asshole! You're listening to Raider Radio!" I knew it would be my favorite station
[–]Gooperchickenface 49ポイント50ポイント51ポイント 12時間前 (11子コメント)
Yeah never did the confidence man quest. Will eventually do it. Butttt I find nervous Trevor hilarious. And I want to hear all his dislodge before switching
[–]Schruk-10863 points 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 10時間前 (10子コメント)
Surely you get bored of his repetitive lines?
[–]Gooperchickenface 28ポイント29ポイント30ポイント 9時間前 (9子コメント)
Surprisingly not at all. Though I don't listen to the radio constantly while I play. It's pretty rare when I switch it on. That may have something to do with it
[–]_vjay_ 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 7時間前 (8子コメント)
I only turn on the radio when needed for certain quests. I didn't realise people actually spent a lot of time listening to it.
[–]Noopyscroopsmcdoops 45ポイント46ポイント47ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
I literally always have it on
[–]MrMeltJrkids these days and their real time combat 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 6時間前 (3子コメント)
I got a mod that adds like 100 songs, a lot more variety. I have it on most of the time.
[–]Professional_Bob 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
Which mod? Most of the ones I've come across either have a short setlist or a load of songs I don't really care for.
[–]MrMeltJrkids these days and their real time combat 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/637/?
[–]Dog_PrinceOfBarknessYes Man 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
I found him to be too fucking annoying before the quest. I don't particularly like "smooth travis" but i hated him as a nervous wreck.
[–]SirStubbs 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
If you're on pc there are some console commands to revert Travis back to being shy if you complete the quest. I found them on reddit a while back.
[–]Dmazzone1NCR Commander 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 10時間前 (9子コメント)
Man that quest was so fuckin funny after you find out he got rejected by the call girl hahahaha
[–]_will_sex_for_foodHail to the King 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 4時間前 (4子コメント)
She wasn't a call girl, she was someone who was interested in him.
[–]Buster_Hazelwood 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Some of us naturally assume that a lady that is interested in us has been paid by a third party to engage in coitus.
[–]We_Are_The_WaitingDisciples 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4時間前 (3子コメント)
Whos the call girl?
[–]Spookies_FREEEEEEEEEEDOM! 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Nervous Travis was one of my least favorite parts of Fo4. I'm happy wt the very least they added Confidence Man.
[–]typical0 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 7時間前 (13子コメント)
I killed Travis because he was annoying
[–]007King_Kong 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 7時間前 (5子コメント)
What happens when you kill him?
[–]orangeman567 63ポイント64ポイント65ポイント 7時間前 (4子コメント)
That kid from the water stand takes it over and basically turns it into a constant advertisement
[–]YHTjykug 218ポイント219ポイント220ポイント 13時間前 (11子コメント)
I liked all the songs in Fallout 4 pretty much. Travis was also probably the funniest part of the game at large.
There was a point some video review made about Travis though that I think I agree with. While he was funny, it was an odd choice to set the tone of the game with that.
I remember my first impression when I heard Travis was that maybe he was being held against his will and being forced to DJ for some Fallout-y reason which would explain the nervousness. I imagined finally meeting him and having the chance to free/kill/enslave/whatever. But nah, just a dude sitting in a room.
[–]ANUSTART942Press X to SHAUN 136ポイント137ポイント138ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
WHY?!
DO THESE OBJECTS?!
KEEP MOVING?!
sigh
Because I move them...
I love Travis.
[–]Corac42Default 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
So fucking relatable
[–]hellandgasdrawls 39ポイント40ポイント41ポイント 6時間前 (6子コメント)
if he is so awkward why does he run a radio show? isn't that the exact opposite of what an extremely introverted person would do with their free time?
[–]rpkarma 42ポイント43ポイント44ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
Less weird than you'd think. I had a show for 4 years, and a heap of my fellow presenters were nervous and introverted (lol community radio... never change) -- talking to a mic means you basically switch off and forget that thousands of people are listening, but that doesn't fix your mode of speech if you're an ummer!
[–]hellandgasdrawls 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
I guess, but he's obviously uncomfortable so it's still kinda weird.
[–]mastertwin2 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
From what I picked up, the whole reason Travis runs DCR is to give the people of the Commonwealth something to listen to and inspire hope. Similar to Three-Dog in some way, but Travis isn't exactly the most confident person, so his commentary suffers (depending on your viewpoint) for it
[–]plutonium_tea 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Potentially, a lot of reasons why he might do it.
Maybe he is unhappy being awkward, and wants to change that by pushing himself from his comfort zone.
Maybe he is altruistic, and wants to provide comfort and a presence for those in the wastes.
Maybe he want to be heard and acknowledged by others, but dealing with people in a direct manner is overwhelming.
Maybe he stumbled into the job, and it paid the bills, so he stuck with it.
Maybe it's a combination, or variation, of these thing, and/or many other things.
People are pretty varied, and introverts are not ONLY introverts - nor are they introverted in the same ways. For Travis, perhaps he wishes to use his efforts to grow, offer kindness, receive recognition, eat the next day, or who knows what. Either way, he probably doesn't have a lot of "free time" - if he wasn't on the radio, he'd have to do something else for an income, and in this job, he gets left alone to do his thing.
Edit - formatting
[–]soucy666 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
That's exactly what I was thinking. That he was captured and I had to rescue him. Then I visit him and he's just sitting in the radio room doing nothing.
[–]ArtisanVirgilRailroad 125ポイント126ポイント127ポイント 11時間前 (23子コメント)
The number of returning songs is disappointing. I didn't have a lot of love for Three Dog, found him pretty irritating and generic, but Travis might be worse. I like FO4 a lot, but I'll say playing without mods the first time, I listened to the radio a LOT less than in 3 or NV.
I know not everyone can use mods, but for those who can, GET ATOMIC RADIO. A fair amount of music, great skits and lore friendly ads. Also consider More Where That Came From, Elvani's Track Pack, and Upbeat Classical Music.
[–]Curtisimo5 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
Old World Tunes and it's associate stations is pretty great too.
[–]Alpha_Bit_Poop 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 6時間前 (8子コメント)
You know what's weird, the voice actor for 3 Dog tweeted about Fallout 4 like 2 years ago, but he never showed up in the game? I wonder what happened there?
[–]NoceboHadalAddicted to psycho 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
The Last I heard he was ill with a brain tumor or something.
[–]The_MunzTwo-Hands-Computer-Using 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
I just looked it up and you're right, that's fucking terrible.
[–]Corac42Default 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 6時間前 (3子コメント)
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. And all the DLCs are out, too, so there's no way he'll actually get in the game now. Odd.
[–]Alpha_Bit_Poop 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
I wonder if he was cut from the game since he spilled the beans.
[–]Y-OokamiI like wolves, plushies and dangos! ^-^ 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Maybe 3Dog made an appearance on early story sketches for Fo4, but eventually was cut when it was revised.
I mean, this happens a lot on projects: Have an idea, modify it, maybe remove one thing or two, start from zero again but with some few elements that were used previously, etc.
[–]IHateHumans 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 7時間前 (8子コメント)
I prefer OWR stations myself. A nice mix of tunes, some silly annoucers, and all pretty nicely lore friendly. Atomic Radio is great for the immersive ads, but if I have to listen to Butcher Pete one more time...
[–]TheButcherPete 26ポイント27ポイント28ポイント 7時間前 (5子コメント)
What'd I do :(
[–]MrMeltJrkids these days and their real time combat 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
Could you maybe tone down the hackin and whackin and choppin, just a little bit?
[–]Delliott90Yes Man 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
Exist
[–]EugenesCureFO4 Paid Mods Inc. 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
All that chopping of meat
[–]Wolfsong013 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
Atomic radio link doesn't work for me. Is there another place to download it?
[–]1Darkest_Knight1 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/8704/?
[–]JSouth25NCR Rangers 314ポイント315ポイント316ポイント 13時間前 (81子コメント)
Neither of the games compare to Radio New Vegas IMO. Mr New Vegas was a legend, most of the songs are pretty enjoyable to listen to over and over again (except fucking Johnny Guitar)
[–]Vike92The House always wins 243ポイント244ポイント245ポイント 11時間前* (16子コメント)
Big Iron is the shit.
[–]Freyzi 69ポイント70ポイント71ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
Welp... time to boot up New Vegas again.
[–]showmerex 51ポイント52ポイント53ポイント 7時間前 (3子コメント)
"BIG IRON BIG IRON"
[–]ArztMerkwurdigliebe 64ポイント65ポイント66ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
WHEN HE TRIED TO MATCH THE RANGER WITH THE BIG IRON ON HIS HIP
[–]BlueTengu 47ポイント48ポイント49ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
BIG IRON ON HIS HIIIIPP...
[–]KiRo88TheMLGNoobI've got quiet good raisins for everything I do! 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 23分前 (0子コメント)
TO THE TOWN OF AGUA FRIA RODE A STRANGER ONE FINE DAY...
[–]jdfred06 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 5時間前 (3子コメント)
Johnny Cash's version is the shit.
[–]EvlSantaYes Man 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Thanks for mentioning it. Need to find it :)
[–]nyxinVault 111 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Here ya go =)
[–]nyxinVault 111 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Damnit! You can't just mention a thing like Johnny Cash's version of Big Iron and not post a link!!!
[–]CabbuceThat's us! 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
[–]FedoraFederation 64ポイント65ポイント66ポイント 12時間前 (4子コメント)
Play it again...
[–]JSouth25NCR Rangers 108ポイント109ポイント110ポイント 12時間前 (3子コメント)
switches to Mojave Music Son of a bitch, it's on this too!
[–]YouFeelitTooDontYou 50ポイント51ポイント52ポイント 9時間前 (2子コメント)
Play it again....my johnny.....
[–]WildfiresICECREAM 33ポイント34ポイント35ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
JOHNNNNNNNYYYYYY GIIIIIITTTTTAAAAAAARRRRRR
[–]AustinRiversDaGodTheeeeeeeeere was never a maaaaaaan like my Johnny 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
[–]SUBJUGATOR001Ghouls in Rockets 39ポイント40ポイント41ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
Actually I would say Black Mountain radio was the funniest.
[–]weetchexChild Killer 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
I definitely wait to do anything at Black Mountain until very late game.
BMR is just not the same without its on-air talent(s).
[–]TrolledByDestinyWelcome Home 31ポイント32ポイント33ポイント 6時間前 (6子コメント)
I like Johnny Guitar :(
[–]BrainSturgeon 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 5時間前 (3子コメント)
Get out.
[–]AustinRiversDaGodTheeeeeeeeere was never a maaaaaaan like my Johnny 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
I feel that Johnny Guitar sets the tone of the game really well when you're moving at night. Sure, Big Iron is great when you're walking through ruins and the sun is shining, but when it's dark and you have to make it to your destination, and you don't know if there are people or Cazadors behind the next corner, that sad guitar, and haunting voice amp up the tension. Same thing as Mad About the Boy
[–]-GeneralDerp-Humped Dog 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Maybe it was just me, but I found Mr New Vegas boring? Is it something you have to listen to a lot to get used to? I wanna enjoy it, I really do but I just can't :(
[–]AlwaysFeral 52ポイント53ポイント54ポイント 10時間前 (11子コメント)
I didn't think they could have found a shittier song than Johnny Guitar until I heard that "He's A Demon, He's A Devil, He's A Doll"...
[–]eddmarioLyon's Pride 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 8時間前 (9子コメント)
I'm pretty sure Uranium Fever is worse
[–]ANUSTART942Press X to SHAUN 70ポイント71ポイント72ポイント 6時間前 (5子コメント)
I love Uranium Fever! But "It's a Man" is just ear-rape after the first few times.
Atom Bomb Baby and The Wanderer never get old though.
[–]Happylime 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
Also its the end of the world is great.
[–]ANUSTART942Press X to SHAUN 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm also partial to Ella Fitzgerald's "Undecided." Honestly, I loved most of the soundtrack in Fallout 4.
[–]EugenesCureFO4 Paid Mods Inc. 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
I found the opposite, I didnt like it at first but grew to like it to the point I'd sing along
[–]ANUSTART942Press X to SHAUN 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
I don't hate it like I do Johnny Guitar or anything. It's a good, upbeat song. It just came on too often for my liking and Inon Zur absolutely knocked the ambient soundtrack out of the park with this game, so I usually keep the radio off.
[–]Chugging_Estus 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Best way to play Fallout 4 (IMO) is to leave the radio off, hook up a good surround sound capable headset, and strategically set up radios in your settlements.
That way you hear the songs, but they don't get old too fast. Plus, it's cool as hell walking into a raider base and hearing "Atom Bomb Baby" faintly play from a room in the back as you mow down the savages.
[–]MrMeltJrkids these days and their real time combat 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Did it gone and got you down?
[–]n3tspl1t 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
[–]ConebreadIH 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Dude what the fuck, uranium fever is amazing
[–]tigress666Die Legion Scum! 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Honestly mr new Vegas was the most boring of the announcers imho. Though I could see how some one would find him less grating than three dog (I like three dog but I could see how people might find him grating. I can't emphasize with hating nervous Travis though).
[–]thehypotheticalnerd 45ポイント46ポイント47ポイント 10時間前 (27子コメント)
Hell no. FO3 had a much better selection overall. Jingle Jangle Jingle and especially Big Iron are fucking amazing but a lot more of them were less memorable or just not as immediately fitting for Fallout. And fuck Johnny Guitar. Jesus. So goddamn boring and played like 100 times more than any other song. Fallout 3's soundtrack was perfect for the atmosphere and aesthetic of the universe. NV works for its setting but is just not as good overall imo.
FO4 has some great additions like the Wanderer but it does seem like they added to few while copy/pasting FO3's songs. It's good because I like those songs... but it's also substantially less great because it doesn't feel "new" (or as new as old songs can feel)
[–]JozozLord Death of Murder Mountain 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 8時間前 (3子コメント)
Fallout 3 isn't the stereotypical atmosphere for the series. Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas have a very special kind of atmosphere.
[–]YouFeelitTooDontYou 34ポイント35ポイント36ポイント 8時間前 (19子コメント)
I can't even remember a single F03 track other than the starting one since it's in the cinematic. New Vegas tracks were far more memorable.
[–]I_Left_9GAGVault 69 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm tickled piiiiiiiiiiiink
The mooon is yeeeeeeeeellow
[–]blancs50 80ポイント81ポイント82ポイント 6時間前* (10子コメント)
He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'
He just hacks, wacks, choppin' that meat
[–]BlueTengu 31ポイント32ポイント33ポイント 6時間前 (5子コメント)
Turn this record over - you ain't heard nothiin' yet
[–]IAMA_Plumber-AMATunnel Snake Removal Service 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
I like how they included the b-side of that song in fo4.
[–]mastertwin2 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
And it took us till Fallout 4 to finally turn that record over
[–]Alpha_Bit_Poop 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
That one is fucking boss. And I like how at the end he fucks all those guys. That is one of those songs in the 1950's had to have been banned, the subtext is just too obvious.
[–]Chugging_Estus 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
I played through Fallout 3 at least ten times years ago, but never really listened to the lyrics of that song. Even though I must have heard and sang along to it hundreds of times.
First time playing Fallout 4 I realized it immediately and it was a real r/mindfuck moment for me.
[–]Jimbobiss 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
In to each life, some tears must fall, But too much have fallen in mineee
[–]Chugging_Estus 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
The roads are the dustiest
The winds are the gustiest
The gates are the rustiest
The pies are the crustiest
The songs
The songs the lustiest
The friends
The friends the trustiest
Way back home
[–]HedoinYes Man 32ポイント33ポイント34ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Lets go sunning
Its so good for you
[–]ANUSTART942Press X to SHAUN 32ポイント33ポイント34ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
For real? Butcher Pete? Into Each Life? IIIIIIIII'M AS CORNY AS KANSAS IN AUGUST?
All I know is that New Vegas is the one that started my habit of just turning off the radio in the game because of Johnny fucking Guitar.
[–]IAMA_Plumber-AMATunnel Snake Removal Service 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Yeah, I really liked the ambient music in New Vegas, reminded me of fallout 1.
[–]ANUSTART942Press X to SHAUN 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
A bunch of songs were reused from Fallout 1 weren't they? At least the Necropolis theme in Nipton.
[–]Every_Geth 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
I'm afraid I disagree on the Wanderer, it doesn't fit the musical aesthetic of the rest. It's clear they only added it because they bought the rights to use it in advertising, and it's jarring whenever it comes on the radio.
[–]lockpickskill 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
I felt like it fit.. We need a little rock-n-roll to start cropping up in our oldies.
[–]typical0 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
I hated NV radio because there were only 10 songs on repeat
[–]Swinnyjr 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
It's a shame red eye and raider radio doesn't cover the whole commonwealth
[–]Stairmasternem 26ポイント27ポイント28ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
In your Raider outposts you can expand the station coverage.
[–]ED-E_77Never Forget 51ポイント52ポイント53ポイント 12時間前 (4子コメント)
The problem is that Inon Zurs ambient soundtrack is much better to listen to. Even the radio with the classical pieces comes off better than the Diamond City radio station.
Travis just has barely anything interesting or funny to say, no matter before or after his quest. Some of the new songs are good though.
I wouldn't have mind when you find records of these F3 songs scattered around the commonwealth and you can bring it to Travis as a unlockable for his radio. But right away from the start it was kinda off putting to me (like when ambient music from F1/F2 plays in Fallout New Vegas).
[–]Alpha_Bit_Poop 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 6時間前* (0子コメント)
Inon Zurs ambient soundtrack is much better to listen to.
Agreed. It's the best ambient soundtrack of any game I know of. I like how they really took a risk with the ambient direction. It's not just a 'stock' ambient soundscape, and it's not like the music from the previous games. I feel like it was a big step forward for video game music.
Oh, and Assassins Creed Freedom Cry. Another game with dope ass-music. Actually, all the Ubisoft games I have played have a really high bar for audio.
[–]artofsushiCourier 6 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
Inon Zur's music is great, but I hate non-diegetic music in my RPGs, so I play with it turned off.
[–]nystardWelcome Home 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
diegetic
Hey, bit off topic, but thanks for teaching me a new word today!
[–]Alpha_Bit_Poop 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
That's one of those words you learn, but then when you see it in a movie next time you will be like "Ahhhhh, what is the name for music happening in the world of the movie!?!?"
[–]QuatrokingI shot the overseer 90ポイント91ポイント92ポイント 9時間前 (17子コメント)
It really pissed me off that they recycled songs from FO3. Recycled ambient music I can live with, because the FO1 and FO2 ambient music was great, but recycling FO3 radio songs even though there are plenty suitable songs available is just bogus.
[–]Blue_TuxedoWhat's a synth? 67ポイント68ポイント69ポイント 8時間前 (13子コメント)
I understand where you're coming from but I think it makes sense to have reused songs. I mean, there's no one out there releasing new music so of course radio stations across the US would probably have a similar selection, which is whatever was popular right before the bombs fell.
[–]Lonovich 44ポイント45ポイント46ポイント 7時間前 (7子コメント)
Magnolia's songs from The Third Rail get added to Diamond City Radio after you visit the bar. There's new music, but not a lot.
[–]extracanadian 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 6時間前 (5子コメント)
I loved sitting in that bar and listening to wonder woman sing I just wish there was more to do in there. Like have someone approach me while I sit with a job or something. Or overhear some guys just talking about a raid they are planning somewhere then if I go there I can stop them or help them, no actual quest with some stupid directional arrows, just something random that would be easy to miss if I hadn't been hanging around
[–]Professional_Bob 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
have someone approach me while I sit with a job or something
You mean like Edward Deegan?
[–]extracanadian 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
He approached me in bunker hill
Also, we're hearing music that's 100 years older than the Great War itself. Why is this shit so old? I understand keeping the 50's aesthetic, but you'd think they'd have had all kinds of music to choose from. They've got robots and shit, where's the synthesized music?
[–]Orphan_Script 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
That's definitely not as fun as getting new music tho.
[–]mrsean 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
There should be a quest in FO5 where you can find records throughout the wasteland, and bring them to the radio station to have them added to the playlist. I would search every fucking dresser out there if it meant more song variety.
[–]CyrusdexterG.O.A.T. Whisperer 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Just because you can rationalize it canonically doesn't mean that it's a good thing.
[–]ColdSmokeMikeVault 13 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
When you think of just how much stuff they reuse in Fallout 3, it's really not surprising how much of 4 (including the music) was recycled as well. 3 literally takes the story of the first two ("Find clean water", and "Find the GECK") and mashes them together while adding a little bit of their own Bethesda flavor (Kid looks for old scientist father). 4 is just 3 in reverse (Parent looks for kid, finds old scientist). Which is why NV is the absolute best game yet.
[–]LexGonGiveItToYa 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 12時間前 (4子コメント)
I would've liked it a whole lot more if most of FO3's songs weren't repeated.
I heard enough about Butcher Pete the first time, I don't need to constantly hear it all over again.
[–]ANUSTART942Press X to SHAUN 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
They added part two of the song though, so that was nice.
[–]FlexPexico 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
Maybe it's just me, but the fact that Butcher Pete is on the track list twice made it seem like the single most repeated song on the radio. I've had too much Hackin' and Wackin' and Smackin'.
[–]flyingpilgrim"I Kill, I Loot, I Return Again!" 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
I like Travis, but I have to admit, he was far more amusing to listen to before Confidence Man. His tone after Confidence Man isn't bad by any means, but it lacks the same kind of distinction that the previous radio hosts had. It'd also help if they just had more songs, though.
[–]john6map4 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I kinda liked how they broke away from the Three Dog and Mr. New Vegas and just decided to have a nervous wreck as a radio host.
Tho I think Confidence Man and that whole story could've been handled a lot better or have a nice in-between. Like how Travis reverts back to his anxious self for just a second while thanking the SS for his help.
But holy SHIT is WRVR the SHIT <3
[–]Kekoa_okToss my salad, Caesar! 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 13時間前 (2子コメント)
Definitely was Travis. His charisma sucked before and after the quest to aid him.
The Prywen announcer was better to listen to
[–]QuackpantsWelcome Home 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 9時間前 (1子コメント)
Kells, aka Tuvok
[–]CathlemNCR Veteran Ranger 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
And the Prydwen's doctor is Barclay.
And speaking of doctors, The Doctor is helping to make Synths for the Institute in the Robotics section.
[–]realdudefaceNCR 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
There are too many songs from FO3.
[–]GarfunklesteinVault 111 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
Could've been more of a song selection, but I like Travis just as much as I do Three Dog or Mr. New Vegas.
[–]BeastabuelosRailway Rifle Master 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
3 dog got annoying after a while
[–]Paperdawl 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 11時間前 (12子コメント)
I have always said that I would pay for DLC that gave you more music in FO4.
[–]A_Change_of_Seasons 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 10時間前 (5子コメント)
It would be one of the easiest things to mod, and mods don't have to care about royalties so we can get stuff that Bethesda could never afford. Just need a "dj" that can record a bunch of lines.
[–]thatool 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 9時間前 (4子コメント)
There are radio mods. At least one big one with lots of original stations.
[–]thedoormanmusic32 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
Old World Boston, such a good mod that ads more than 10 stations, most of which have unique hosts.
If you do get that mod, turn up the NIN station before heading into a firefight. Completely changes the feel of the game.
[–]Taswelltoo 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
For the lazy
[–]YouFeelitTooDontYou 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 8時間前 (3子コメント)
I remember a time when we screamed at Bethesda for horse armor....now people ask to pay for radio stations.
[–]Hugs_of_MooseAtom Cats 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
While I agree that it would be better to just get it right the first time, adding more stations seems reasonable for dlc, you have to pay a voice actor, pay a writer, pay your sound egineers and studio, and buy royalties for music.
But like people pointed out, there are so many good radio mods we are not really dying for Bethesda to make one for us.
[–]brandoshido 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 10時間前 (2子コメント)
I don't remember ever hearing Train Train until after I beat the main quest line. I love that song.
Also, I'd catch glimpses of stations in the pip boy that was just a bunch of static.
[–]daboobiesnatcherOld World Flag 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
It happens after you go to third rail in Goodneighbor.
[–]CosmicTravellerWater Chip? Been there, done that. 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
I always find the best way to enjoy audio/soundtrack in Fallout is to listen to the ambient, and let the songs just be heard on the radios scattered throughout the Wasteland. Makes things a lot more atmospheric that way. In that regard, Fallout 4 did pretty well since the ambient was pretty good and it was nice occasionally hearing nostalgiac Fallout 3 songs wandering into Diamond City. But I can imagine the re-use would be really annoying if you constantly had the radio on.
[–]PM_ME_ZED_BARAMankind Undefined 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 13時間前 (0子コメント)
Well there are definitely more new classical songs added to FO4.
[–]Razzreal 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
woah woah woah, everyone knows Mr. New Vegas(wayne newton) is the best, closely followed by Tabitha and Rhonda of black mountain radio.....
[–]Citizen_Snips29 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 6時間前 (3子コメント)
I'm kind of in the minority, in that I thought Three Dog was kind of obnoxious. Even in my most lawful of playthroughs, killing him was a high priority. Travis was an.... interesting direction to take the DJ in this game. Once you did Confidence Man he definitely improved though.
In regards to the music, I think Bethesda was going for a nostalgia factor that kind of fell on its face. The reaction they wanted was, "Wow! I remember these songs from Fallout 3. This really takes me back. :)" An example of this done right was in the Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim. When you made it to Solstheim and heard The Road Most Travelled, a piece of iconic music from Morrowind. When I first heard I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire for the first time in Fallout 4, my reaction was more, "Great. I get to listen to this song another ten thousand god damn times."
[–]Yazoolol 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
I actually really enjoyed diamond city radio, but I wish there would have been 3 times the number of songs there are, when you hear multiple times the same song in one play session it's meh. And the other radios aren't worth jack
[–]MrSimmix01Such a Happy Cappy 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
I liked Diamond City Radio's music selection, but I just don't like Travis (even after his quest). I also don't like raider radio at all, it fits with the raider theme but there is just sooooo much repetition. I ended up downloading a mod that adds several radio stations to the game and all of these stations have better radio presenters than the vanilla game.
[–]Mickey3033Yes Man 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
What I don't like is that it's quite a bit harder to hear character dialogue with your radio on. In Fallout 3 & NV I more or less had the radio on the whole time. For Fallout 4 I've maybe had it on for 3 hours despite logging almost 40 days of play time.
[–]dragoninja24 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Nope. There are a ton of songs. I love it. Best radio in a Fallout game imo.
[–]ghostinthetvSetter Of World Fires 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
I would have like more episodes of The Silver Shroud.
[–]Pnspi2Welcome Home 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Am I the only one that plays without the radio on? The game has great ambience music that fits the location.
[–]falseflaggotSneering Imperialist 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 13時間前* (0子コメント)
I'm pretty sure there's around 25 new songs on DC radio, plus the 5 Magnolia sings.
[–]TheAmazingKokiWelcome Home 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
The radio has always been lacking in Fallout. I really hoped they would make an effort with the radio. Even a fraction of the radio variety in any of the GTA games would have made me very happy.
[–]Alpha_Bit_Poop 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
A Fallout talk radio station would be hilarious!
[–]Jack_Newtown[Lockpick 5/15] I CAN'T GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Mr. New Vegas' interview of No-Bark Noonan was enough to persuade me of this.
"Several objects were recently seen flying over Novac. A local crackpot spoke to a teddy bear near our microphones..."
[–]NewVegasGod2077 points 23 hours ago 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Did you listen to much Black Mountain Radio in New Vegas? It was my favorite radio station. I was always really sad that it didn't span the whole map.
[–]rusty_dherp derp 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 13時間前 (1子コメント)
No actually, I thought it was better in FO4. Three Dog was too preachy, I had him do the Shady Sands Shuffle more than once. I liked nervous Travis, he went downhill after the SS helped him. YMMV.
[–]JadedDarknessVault-Tec calling! 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
I though it was fine, but I do think it would have been better to have two (non-classical) stations with the music divided between them. This would allow you to listen to something else if you weren't in the mood for the song on the other station. This also could have allowed two very different radio hosts and maybe a questline involving them competing.
[–]scrabs69 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Three Dog was no doubt a more intriguing host. At the time 3 released, having a radio station that develops organically based on the choices the character made was refreshing. I remember in one save file I capped Three Dog as soon as I met him to steal the bandana, only for some crabby old woman to hop on the mic and start bashing me lol
[–]JamaicanSoup 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
I honestly have really come to love just listening to the ost as I do stuff in game. My favourite is the Far Harbor ost; it feels very fitting.
[–]ThanosRDVault 13 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
I just switched it off after 3-4 hours into the game and enjoyed the ambient music and sound effects. Checked the song list, checked Travis' comments, don't think I missed anything
[–]Goldpack33 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
I really hoped they would make an effort with the raider theme but there is just bogus.
[–]eloc49 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Well getting songs is hard, they have to be close to 50's era, about a nuclear bomb, end of the world, or something along those lines, plus getting licenses for those songs is expensive. At least we have mods that add radio stations.
[–]buddahboi91 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
If you are into, and able to mod, I would suggest Old World Tunes, I hated the vanilla radio, usually only kept it on the classical station, radio freedom, or silence. But OWT has a great selection, and the host is fun to listen to. In a perfect world it wouldn't be a mod, it would've just been the vanilla experience
[–]TwistedMinds 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Pretty sure OWT is included in [Old World Radio - Boston] if you want even more goodies.
ninja edit: heh, just realized it is linked in OWT's description so you probably were already aware of that. woops
[–]Careless_Yoda 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Well you gotta cut a little slack. Imagine how hard it must be to find music out in the wastelands
[–]ohreddit1 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Not enough unknown, new and specifically commonwealth/post bomb songs. Pretty sure humans would keep making music. There would be New Bards walking everywhere.
[–]buttsniffbadgerRailroad 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Eh, I really loved Classical Radio and they did a good job with selecting a wide-ish variety of fine pieces. Of course, I wish there'd been more (I would take entire symphonies in a heartbeat) but I'm happy with what I got.
[–]lol_camis 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
No more than any other Fallout game. I mean if you're gonna put several hundred hours into a game, be prepared to hear the same song a few times. Even when you listen to a radio station in real life....there's a theme to any given radio station weather it be rock and roll, top 40, classic, jazz....And within those themes there's really only a few dozen songs that are good enough that lots of people want to hear them. With Fallout, that theme is 50's and 60's, except if you havent noticed, all these songs have something to do with either radiation or surviving or guns or violence or something like that, which limits the choices even more.
[–]martinwraae 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
They shouldn't have recycled music from FO3. There was plenty of better stuff available.
[–]Dalton616 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
I felt the whole game was. I looked forward to this game for years and tried so hard to get into it but I just couldn't.
[–]Knordor_Minutemen 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
I think three dog was the best. Travis wasn't that good, but i really liked red eye from nuka world.
The new songs they added in fallout 4 were great.For me it was a great mix between the old songs and the new songs.
[–]CMVMIO 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
I felt like the default radio station played the same stuff over and over again. I was damn near 20 hours in before hearing either "Wanderer" or "Atom Bomb Baby" even one time.
[–]GingerSwanGNRnormies out of necropolis REEEEEE 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 10時間前 (6子コメント)
Nuka World Radio is so much better, but has so fewer stories/songs.
[–]Alpha_Bit_Poop 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
I also heard Nuka World has new ambient music tracks!!
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It does, gives me New Vegas vibes around the wasteland and Dry Rock Gulch.
[–]CyberPunk88It just Works 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
I kind of missed a radio station like Enclave radio with a character like president Eden. Even GNR was better than all radio stations in F4.
[–]linksfan 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
I've always found the radio stations to be lacking. There never seems to be enough songs to stop them getting repetitive
Yeah, I never, ever play the radio.
Cause it's bad.
Cause the ambient soundtrack I think is the best of any fallout game since 2! It's so good, and I think it took some risks. They could have played it safe, but instead they went in a really unique direction.
So I think the radio in Fallout is the worst of the new games, while the ambient music is the best of the new games!
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