The Decline in Marriage Rates

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The Decline in Marriage Rates

Postby Demosthenes » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:25 pm

There was a post over on goingyourownway referencing an article blaming porn and video games for 'the decline in marriage rates. The scapegoating of these two things being a tired cliche', but I addressed the actual reasons and like the energizer bunny, just kept going and going….which isn't a big shock for those who are aware of the how long my posts can go.

Unshocking information not requiring a study:

Marriage rates decline with horrible stewardship of economy by government that does not serve the people it supposedly represents.

Marriage rates decline when government allows immigration to exceed the capability of job creation combined with a global policy agenda to ship jobs out of the country creating even more problems for workers in being able to support themselves, let alone a family.

Marriage rates decline when women are incentivized by government not to stay committed to the vows they make in the martial relationship/contract.

Marriage rates decline when women are allowed to abuse their husbands, but domestic violence abuse is only allowed to be seen as something only women are subject to when the abuses are relatively even between the sexes. Women win out over men where psychological abuse of their husbands is concerned, but there is little to no acknowledgement.

Marriage rates decline when women are allowed to systematically use domestic violence abuses against their husbands, criticizing their men for their hobbies, criticizing men for wanting to have friends outside of the marriage, and even further criticizing men for wanting to maintain those friendships. The abuse by women extends into hypocritical paradox both criticizing men for not working enough, then for not being home enough and for not doing enough at home.

Marriage rates decline when enough men are abused by government policy bias in favor of outcomes for women especially via the court system, and further by 'public' support programs which only cater to women.

Marriage rates decline when men are disrespected for adhering to social contract rules and gender roles which women walked away from decades ago.

Marriage rates further decline because any fool stupid enough to marry in that environment of disrespect for being a working husband/provider and father does not understand how the very woman that married him considers him beneath her for being stupid enough to enter into a rigged contract with her, placing himself at her whims due to laws and governmental policy. No woman respects that man any further, nor does 'society' expect her to.

Marriage rates decline when women slowly but surely stop being intimate with their husbands, and berate the man as overbearing, too demanding, and unloving for even wanting to have any kind of intimacy/sexual contact with her.

Marriage rates decline when enough men lose their families through divorce court, through the ex wife controlling and limiting visitation, and the ex-wife actively working to turn the children against their father.

Marriage rates decline when due process laws give women unprecedented power to destroy men with mere accusations.

Marriage rates decline when women are allowed to falsely accuse their husbands (any man in general) in order to secure an easier court ordered decision in her favor and/or in order for her to manipulate the man accused so that her false accusations are believed by the general public, thus hurting and even destroying men with a mere accusation.

Marriage rates decline when men are forced to pay their ex wives outlandish support (alimony) for extremely long or even permanent periods of time.

Marriage rates decline when women prove, over and over, that they are not interested, or even truly capable of keeping their commitments/vows.

Women walked away from their obligations to the marital/social contract decades ago. Now, men have finally accepted that things are not going to adjust or change to suit the old order. Men have adapted and are walking away from their gender roles as providers and fathers because 'society' holds no respect for those roles even when men naively assume them.

Men are increasingly unwilling to sign a slave contract which will be used against them to extract financial resources and other assets, all to support and empower an individual who is not required to hold to her commitments, or held responsible and accountable for her choices. Men have grown tired of accepting responsibility for the whims of those who have proven themselves to be no better at keeping commitments than children.

Men are under no obligation to offer their commitment to those who will not keep theirs.

The marriage contract is a rigged game men are no longer willing to play. It is a sham, and a scam whose outcome is generally favored towards women upon dissolution. The system and those who benefit from it are upset, angry, worried that men being unwilling to be useful tools and idiots for women and the system will cause problems for the system, as is already occurring.

The system can not compel men to marry in order to treat them as slaves. This flaw in the laws and policies of the system is the critical error overlooked for decades and now the consequences are upon those who pushed the systems policies too far causing men to choose another way to live - not for others, but for themselves.

Men are keeping their power, instead of 'empowering others'. Empowerment is being given something. This is why women wish to consistently be 'empowered'. Empowerment is the antithesis of earning one's own way based on capability and merit.

Men are keeping their power, their commitment, and choosing the quality of their own lives over the lives of others.

This is why those who benefit from the system, and the people in government who run 'the system', are upset and call men hateful and misogynistic. They benefited from men as willing useful idiots stupid enough to marry willingly. They were able to take form men because men were 'willing' (by choosing to marry) to have those things taken from them. The system depended on this, and still depends on this.

Now that men no longer give what was once freely given, the only recourse those who support and need the system have is to criticize, demand, and attempt to shame men even further because the system as it is needs men to be willing sacrifices for it to continue.

Women see men withholding commitment (marriage) as 'taking' something from them that their mothers, grandmothers, and other women have greatly benefited. Women today still want to receive what they were told was their due (they can have it all), but men are deciding not to pay the bill for women's huge and unreasonable expectations.

They can blame Porn. They can blame video games. They can call men names - misogynist, Peter Pan, childish, whatever. They can not force men to enter into the rigged business deal (known as marriage) which women know they will be the beneficiaries of upon dissolution.

More than eighty-five percent of the time, women re assigned custody in court of law, and more than ninety five percent where support money and other assets are concerned women are the beneficiaries. The court system is rigged and biased in favor of outcomes for women.

The system becomes fearful, and is fearful, when men have had enough, older and younger. When enough older men do not remarry, and enough younger men decide making the mistake of marriage the first time is not worth the probable outcome, those who benefit from that system of male utility begin to worry more and more.

Those who benefit from the system in place and those who are steeply dependent on males being willing to sacrifice to a system which will only destroy them (those men) create idiotic claims of studies blaming porn and video games for the decline in marriage, instead of facing the real issues which cause the decline in desire for marriage.

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What are the real issues which cause decline in marriage? Return to the beginning of this post and reread.
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Re: The Decline in Marriage Rates

Postby ManWithAPlan » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:33 pm

Falling faster than my turds into the toilet during a morning shit.
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Re: The Decline in Marriage Rates

Postby monty burns » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:56 pm

My marriage rate is zero. My divorce rate is zero. My alimony payments are zero. I wonder why?
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Re: The Decline in Marriage Rates

Postby MrPragmatic » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:41 pm

If I may add a couple to your fine list:

Marriage rates decline when women become so grotesque on both the outside and on the inside they're unable to set the proper bait to dupe even the most gullible, unsuspecting men into commitment.

Marriage rates decline when men are ignored or rejected by women in their prime only to be pursued by these same women as a potential meal ticket and work mule 15 years and 3 kids later.

Marriage rates decline when curious men go on the internet and read about the true dark nature of women, backed up with lots of scientific and anecdotal evidence.

Marriage is all but dead, an outdated rite of passage from a society which no longer exists.
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Re: The Decline in Marriage Rates

Postby womanhater » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:54 pm

I will not consider us to have achieved victory until the very institution of marriage is stricken from the law books and the institution is considered as antiquated as the feudal system - and for the same reasons. Honestly we should stop saying divorce and replace it with the term manumission as it's far more accurate a descriptor.
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Re: The Decline in Marriage Rates

Postby Entreri » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:29 pm

womanhater wrote:I will not consider us to have achieved victory until the very institution of marriage is stricken from the law books and the institution is considered as antiquated as the feudal system - and for the same reasons. Honestly we should stop saying divorce and replace it with the term manumission as it's far more accurate a descriptor.


Eh. OK, I had to google that term, and I don't think it's really accurate. Unless we're talking about female-initiated divorce, then yeah, it probably is.

I'm just at a loss for a better word to replace it. Holy fuck, I think all the booze I consumed from 18-36 has caught up with me. My brain doesn't think as good as it once did.
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Re: The Decline in Marriage Rates

Postby ubermensch » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:17 am

Demosthenes wrote:There was a post over on goingyourownway referencing an article blaming porn and video games for 'the decline in marriage rates. The scapegoating of these two things being a tired cliche', but I addressed the actual reasons and like the energizer bunny, just kept going and going….which isn;t a big shock for those who are aware of the how long my posts can go.

Unshocking information not requiring a study:

Marriage rates decline with horrible stewardship of economy by government that does not serve the people it supposedly represents.

Marriage rates decline when government allows immigration to exceed the capability of job creation combined with a global policy agenda to ship jobs out of the country creating even more problems for workers in being able to support themselves, let alone a family.

Marriage rates decline when women are incentivized by government not to stay committed to the vows they make in the martial relationship/contract.

Marriage rates decline when women are allowed to abuse their husbands, but domestic violence abuse is only allowed to be seen as something only women are subject to when the abuses are relatively even between the sexes. Women win out over men where psychological abuse of their husbands is concerned, but there is little to no acknowledgement.

Marriage rates decline when women are allowed to systematically use domestic violence abuses against their husbands, criticizing their men for their hobbies, criticizing men for wanting to have friends outside of the marriage, and even further criticizing men for wanting to maintain those friendships. The abuse by women extends into hypocritical paradox both criticizing men for not working enough, then for not being home enough and for not doing enough at home.

Marriage rates decline when enough men are abused by government policy bias in favor of outcomes for women especially via the court system, and further by 'public' support programs which only cater to women.

Marriage rates decline when men are disrespected for adhering to social contract rules and gender roles which women walked away from decades ago.

Marriage rates further decline because any fool stupid enough to marry in that environment of disrespect for being a working husband/provider and father does not understand how the very woman that married him considers him beneath her for being stupid enough to enter into a rigged contract with her, placing himself at her whims due to laws and governmental policy. No woman respects that man any further, nor does 'society' expect her to.

Marriage rates decline when women slowly but surely stop being intimate with their husbands, and berate the man as overbearing, too demanding, and unloving for even wanting to have any kind of intimacy/sexual contact with her.

Marriage rates decline when enough men lose their families through divorce court, through the ex wife controlling and limiting visitation, and the ex-wife actively working to turn the children against their father.

Marriage rates decline when due process laws give women unprecedented power to destroy men with mere accusations.

Marriage rates decline when women are allowed to falsely accuse their husbands (any man in general) in order to secure an easier court ordered decision in her favor and/or in order for her to manipulate the man accused so that her false accusations are believed by the general public, thus hurting and even destroying men with a mere accusation.

Marriage rates decline when men are forced to pay their ex wives outlandish support (alimony) for extremely long or even permanent periods of time.

Marriage rates decline when women prove, over and over, that they are not interested, or even truly capable of keeping their commitments/vows.

Women walked away from their obligations to the marital/social contract decades ago. Now, men have finally accepted that things are not going to adjust or change to suit the old order. Men have adapted and are walking away from their gender roles as providers and fathers because 'society' holds no respect for those roles even when men naively assume them.

Men are increasingly unwilling to sign a slave contract which will be used against them to extract financial resources and other assets, all to support and empower an individual who is not required to hold to her commitments, or held responsible and accountable for her choices. Men have grown tired of accepting responsibility for the whims of those who have proven themselves to be no better at keeping commitments than children.

Men are under no obligation to offer their commitment to those who will not keep theirs.

The marriage contract is a rigged game men are no longer willing to play. It is a sham, and a scam whose outcome is generally favored towards women upon dissolution. The system and those who benefit from it are upset, angry, worried that men being unwilling to be useful tools and idiots for women and the system will cause problems for the system, as is already occurring.

The system can not compel men to marry in order to treat them as slaves. This flaw in the laws and policies of the system is the critical error overlooked for decades and now the consequences are upon those who pushed the systems policies too far causing men to choose another way to live - not for others, but for themselves.

Men are keeping their power, instead of 'empowering others'. Empowerment is being given something. This is why women wish to consistently be 'empowered'. Empowerment is the antithesis of earning one's own way based on capability and merit.

Men are keeping their power, their commitment, and choosing the quality of their own lives over the lives of others.

This is why those who benefit from the system, and the people in government who run 'the system', are upset and call men hateful and misogynistic. They benefited from men as willing useful idiots stupid enough to marry willingly. They were able to take form men because men were 'willing' (by choosing to marry) to have those things taken from them. The system depended on this, and still depends on this.

Now that men no longer give what was once freely given, the only recourse those who support and need the system have is to criticize, demand, and attempt to shame men even further because the system as it is needs men to be willing sacrifices for it to continue.

Women see men withholding commitment (marriage) as 'taking' something from them that their mothers, grandmothers, and other women have greatly benefited. Women today still want to receive what they were told was their due (they can have it all), but men are deciding not to pay the bill for women's huge and unreasonable expectations.

They can blame Porn. They can blame video games. They can call men names - misogynist, Peter Pan, childish, whatever. They can not force men to enter into the rigged business deal (known as marriage) which women know they will be the beneficiaries of upon dissolution.

More than eighty-five percent of the time, women re assigned custody in court of law, and more than ninety five percent where support money and other assets are concerned women are the beneficiaries. The court system is rigged and biased in favor of outcomes for women.

The system becomes fearful, and is fearful, when men have had enough, older and younger. When enough older men do not remarry, and enough younger men decide making the mistake of marriage the first time is not worth the probable outcome, those who benefit from that system of male utility begin to worry more and more.

Those who benefit from the system in place and those who are steeply dependent on males being willing to sacrifice to a system which will only destroy them (those men) create idiotic claims of studies blaming porn and video games for the decline in marriage, instead of facing the real issues which cause the decline in desire for marriage.


John Galt said something like this ...
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Re: The Decline in Marriage Rates

Postby BeijaFlor » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:34 am

And a lot more of it, Ubermensch. But this is powerful, overwhelming, and profound.

Demosthenes ought to nail this list to the door of the N.O.W., the way Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door of the Wittenburg Castle church....
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Re: The Decline in Marriage Rates

Postby toolate » Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:02 am

Pretty deep stuff and detail rich. Should be a sticky here and etched into granite on some town square.
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