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About pedofiles: "Should they be arrested, publicly shamed, put on a list, sent to prison, and be guaranteed to be unable to find a decent job?" [+290] (reddit.com)

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[–]Megaman03Transcendental Queermunist 96ポイント97ポイント  (9子コメント)

PoC fighting against institutional and systematic racism? Lazy, violent criminal moochers who should be shot and/or run over!

LGBTI people fighting against institutional and systematic homophobia and transphobia? Disgusting sex crazy freaks who just want special rights and should just shut up already!

Women fighting against institutional and systematic misogyny? Shrill, silly, loud, fat ugly meanies who hate men and can't do anything because they're too inept! They also want matriarchy!

Pedophiles fighting for the freedom to rape children? Hold on now let's consider what these people have to say and how they are discriminated in society.

Fuck Reddit. BRD.

[–]Etherbunny66 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

Reddit has a shocking amount of Pedophiles, many people here seem to think its ok to fantasize having sex with children as long as they "dont act on them"

If you don't believe me check out Chris Hanson's AMA. They came out strong for that one, its honestly disgusting and pretty embarrassing for Reddit as a whole, but when you look at it, people like that probably tend to stay on the secluded from reality and would naturally gravitate to Reddit, that or join Super Adventure Club.

[–]ErikaSwedishCanadianOffical Ball Busting Feminazi Bitch 165ポイント166ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yes

[–]antibread 53ポイント54ポイント  (7子コメント)

... second opinion here. Definitely yes

[–]VorpalEskimoSummum bonum in mundo exterminium "albus populo". 34ポイント35ポイント  (6子コメント)

On the other hand, hell yes.

[–]FUCK_TINY_HANDS 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

To play devil's advocate... oh wait no that's a fucking stupid idea.

[–]PyreDruid 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey hey, there's other options like:

We just keep them in jail, then they don't have to worry about being on a list or unable to find a job. That gets rid of two complaints right there.

[–]trainfanyaymuh narratives 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

But jail is for black people!

[–]IAmTheShitRedditSaysOf Mutilated body and Dual Spirit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, yes

[–]shinyhappypanda 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm going to have to disagree with you and go with "FUCK, YES!."

[–]larinioides 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the gripping hand, yessireebob.

[–]subvertcCuck My Life Into Pieces. 144ポイント145ポイント  (7子コメント)

The fact that reddit will defend and show empathy to pedophiles yet show zero for minorities and woman and LGBT.....is astonishing.

[–]VorpalEskimoSummum bonum in mundo exterminium "albus populo". 58ポイント59ポイント  (0子コメント)

Professional courtesy.

[–]NewepsilonRegressive Cultural Keynesian Cuckball 49ポイント50ポイント  (1子コメント)

Perhaps it's because they feel they can relate more to pedophiles than scary essjadoublews or scary brown people or scary... you get the point...

[–]HappyDecoy 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

As straight white men, they can't be women or PoC or LGBTQ. They will never face the discrimination those groups face.

They pretend to care about pedophiles because that is a group they could potentially belong to. Obviously through some contrivance that's totally not their fault and they're definitely going to blame their victim for it but it COULD happen.

[–]StarmanGhost 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey, they've gotta advocate on behalf of themselves.

[–]theltrtduck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is Reddit. I wish it was astonishing.

[–]hoobsherIustitiam Socialem Bellator 81ポイント82ポイント  (34子コメント)

arrested

yes

publicly shamed

yes

put on a list

yes

sent to prison

thought we covered this with "arrested" but yes

guaranteed to be unable to find a decent job

the only debatable one

bottom line: they want to fuck children. no sympathy.

[–]Thoushaltbemocked"White people are bullies. They colonize, enslave and pillage" 80ポイント81ポイント  (13子コメント)

put on a list

I'm going to break the jerk, and say that sex offender registries are ineffective (or at the very least, have questionable effectiveness). They don't help reduce recidivism, and result in vigilante justice and the targeting of innocent people. And afaik, there are a lot of valid arguments (other than "what about the poor pedos???") to have registries removed from the justice system.

And it's all the more frustrating to see people use this to try and evoke sympathy for pedos. You can talk about rehabilitation without painting pedophiles as a victim.

[–]nenyim 35ポイント36ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think they should definitely be put on a list because pedophiles should not work with young kids for obvious reason. It doesn't prevent most sex offender registries, especially when they are public, to be terrible and often counterproductive. But something should be in place to preventing them to becoming teacher or something along those lines.

I have more problem with publicly shamed because I want a working justice system and not something that incorporate witch hunts.

[–]Thoushaltbemocked"White people are bullies. They colonize, enslave and pillage" 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

(I deleted my previous reply because I don't think that it was worded well)

Well, I'd agree, there should be some sort of system to monitor pedophiles, to make sure that they don't hurt anyone else. But I'll also agree that allowing said monitoring system to become a tool of vigilante justice isn't a good idea. And you're right in saying that public shaming is a bad option.

[–]hoobsherIustitiam Socialem Bellator 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

question 1: do you want to fuck a child? if yes, your name and info will be recorded

[–]Thoushaltbemocked"White people are bullies. They colonize, enslave and pillage" 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

You're asking this to the wrong person.

[–]hoobsherIustitiam Socialem Bellator 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

not you personally, you generally

[–]Thoushaltbemocked"White people are bullies. They colonize, enslave and pillage" 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh okay. Keep in mind though, I don't think that pedophiles shouldn't be monitored in some way or another. However, I do feel that allowing such a monitoring system to be used for vigilante justice is ineffective to maintaining a sound justice system at best, and counterproductive at worst.

[–]hoobsherIustitiam Socialem Bellator 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

if the legal system is actually set up for protection and rehabilitation instead of enforcing bourgeoisie social order, then vigilante justice won't be necessary

[–]Thoushaltbemocked"White people are bullies. They colonize, enslave and pillage" 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, true enough.

I do feel conflicted about this. A truly anarchist restorative justice system would involve allowing informing the public about any possible danger with a limited/no threat of vigilante justice. But a capitalist system of justice makes it pretty difficult to enact that in practice.

[–]ccmulliganI just hate white male culture 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

The problem is they're too broad. I don't think a child rapist needs to be on the same list as a 20 year old who has sex with a 16 year old.

But in general, I am in favor of civil commitment for sexually violent offenders. They actually can't be trusted.

[–]Thoushaltbemocked"White people are bullies. They colonize, enslave and pillage" 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

civil commitment

Honestly, I see that being abused as well, to punish inmates with solitary confinement and other practices of questionable ethicality.

[–]ccmulliganI just hate white male culture 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's generally not civil commitment. They just have to live in a halfway house type place and can't interact with most of the world (no phones, internet, porn, etc).

[–]Thoushaltbemocked"White people are bullies. They colonize, enslave and pillage" 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

IMO, that could be an intermediate phase. However, I'm not comfortable using that as a long-term solution.

[–]raiskream 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, a lot of pedophiles don't offend and get help. I'm fine with pedophiles getting psychological help and remaining in society if they do not offend. But otherwise? It's prison for them.

[–]xAHXY94YNbn -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, a lot of pedophiles don't offend and get help.

Citation needed. Redditors love to repeat that but it has absolutely not been my experience.

[–]raiskream 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well first, this is my first time seeing or discussing the topic or pedophilia on reddit.

Second, do you have a lot of experience with pedophiles?

Third, a simple google search will bring hundreds sources. There are organizations such as Don't Offend dedicated to getting pedophiles the help they need and informing the public. I suggest you visit their FAQ section.

I am someone who hugely advocates for mental illness rehabilitation. I consider pedophilia a legitimate illness that people have no control over.

There is also this amazing article from Medium.

[–]Meguminn 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

bottom line: they want to fuck children. no sympathy.

This. Pedos are the closest things to pure evil monstrosity that exists.

[–]evergreennightmarecartoon commie 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

personally i'd consider nazis worse but that's not saying much, eh?

[–]Thoushaltbemocked"White people are bullies. They colonize, enslave and pillage" 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Implying that there's no intersection.

[–]evergreennightmarecartoon commie 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

why would i imply that? i've seen reddit

[–]Meguminn -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd say they're about equal in their inhumanity.

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    [–]Nanogame 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

    From my, quite honestly limited, understanding, being attracted to children is just as much a choice as one's sexuality, that is, not voluntary.

    Bear in mind that I am in no way comparing homo, bi or any other sexuality to pedophilia, as only pedophilia is in any way harmful. Neither am I condoning or in any way showing support or leniency towards indulging pedophiles,

    I am however pointing out that a pedophile had no choice in being attracted to children, only in acting upon those desires. I also think society would look better if pedophiles were taught to seek psychological help for their problems and not being shunned in doing so.

    [–]Olferen 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I hate that line of Reddit thinking. Yes, they're both not ones choice, that's about where the comparisons end.

    [–]Nanogame 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's exactly what I said.

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      [–]LIATGCultural Marxism is my kink[M] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      This kind of question should go in /r/SRSQuestions or /r/SRSDiscussion

      [–]Zekeachu 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Oh, thanks, good to know. That might be too many levels of meta for me to bother, but I appreciate it!

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        [–]PM_ME_SALTY_TEARSneon legbeard 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

        How society deals with felons is problematic, because some disadvantaged groups are more likely to be convicted, the justice system isn't perfect even without the systematic racism, classism, ableism, etc, and because a sentence should be over when it's over.

        But pedophiles are some of the last people I'd worry about here.

        [–]GayFeshThe true irony here is that even Hitler did not dox his enemys. 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

        No! Until we make sure that rapists, pedophiles, and Nazis have absolutely fair treatment under the law, NOBODY ELSE can be considered! Sorry Black people, you'll have to wait your turn, we've got more important issues first! /s

        [–]Thoushaltbemocked"White people are bullies. They colonize, enslave and pillage" 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

        But pedophiles are some of the last people I'd worry about here.

        Exactly. Drug dealers are awarded life imprisonment for selling a few grams of weed, while pedos are sentenced to just 45 days in jail for raping kids. Add to that the fact that most instances of child sexual assault, and sexual assault in general, are barely prosecuted.

        [–]paulchoixqcdolan pls stop 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

        people who run from cops deserve to be shot

        people who touch children have the right to dignity

        -RODDIT

        [–]VorpalEskimoSummum bonum in mundo exterminium "albus populo". 35ポイント36ポイント  (3子コメント)

        How curious that whites show more empathy for pedophiles than for everyone they have and will hurt. Such interesting conclusions can be drawn.

        [–]Altiondsols 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

        i'm not saying self-preservation but yes i am

        [–]GayFeshThe true irony here is that even Hitler did not dox his enemys. 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I'm not saying every Redditor is a child rapist, but every Redditor wants to be.

        [–]PM_ME_SALTY_TEARSneon legbeard 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I'm not saying all redditors are pedos, but I'm not not saying it either.

        [–]ace_g01d 24ポイント25ポイント  (3子コメント)

        Only those who act upon their pedophilia. It is not their fault they want to have sex with children, it is only wrong if they actually do.

        [–]__roasted# of people who've told me to kill myself since SRS: 1 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I think this qualification is unnecessary and detracts from the issue at hand. Of course any individual with dangerous sexual inclinations who never acts on them in a way that affects another human doesn't deserve punishment, but I don't think anyone is saying that they do. What people are saying is that those who abuse or consume materials produced through abuse deserve punishment.

        All too often reddit seems to try and spin this position into something to do with bigotry towards other people, when that isn't what it's about in the slightest.

        [–]sdingle100 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        So why not say child molesters instead of pedophiles? I would imagine being pedophile who is also an ethical person would be absolutely horrible, and I do kind of wish people would quite saying these sorts of things about them, they need help and support not ridicule imo. They didn't choose to be that way. If they feel that everyone's against them it might help them rationalize acting on their thoughts.

        [–]Keenbean248 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

        A bit of a misleading title. The linked comment is in reply to a comment asking "Should hs seniors date freshmen?" In context, the linked comment asks a good question.

        [–]hty6 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

        What even is this response?

        That's the $64K question there. And it means something, especially with the Quiverfull movements and other 'well meaning' 'family building' schemes that people with ill designs have towards male/female relations in this country. And what of arranged marriages? What if the two are fixed up by their families and WANT to go forward despite the gap? Does family acceptance get trumped by societal norms? Or vice versa? Significant questions arise from this, good redditor. Well spotted.

        What does this have to do with anything? Am I missing something?

        [–]guphkor⚡ Frankie Stein For Social Justice ⚡ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        yada yada marriages between adults and children can be good actually

        [–]hmbmellyshartlord 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        good redditor

        UGH. This guy.

        [–]thatguybuster[🍰] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Of course! Who's stupid enough to say no!... Oh yeah...

        [–]attemptingtobeadult 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Wow, I wonder what their views on slut-shaming are...oh wait, nvm, we know.

        [–]qwetico 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I've never been able to figure out what to do with these people once they're out of prison. (For the sake of argument, let's assume they've served a sensible amount of time, and have received counseling/therapy.) It's a huge problem in places like Florida where (in one major city) the only place these people can legally sleep is under a bridge. Everything else has ordinances / schools nearby.

        Trust me, I'm for "sending them to prison" -but what next?

        [–]shinyhappypanda 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I'm all for keeping them in prison for the rest of their lives.

        [–]TedBaendy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Yes

        [–]JosefStallionDisco cuck 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Are Redditurds incapable of showing empathy to people other than rapists, pedophiles and neo-Nazis?

        [–]Neon-lightProfessional GenderFascist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Rapist Pedo neo-Nazis?

        [–]SRScreenshotwow 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        About pedofiles: "Should they be arrested, publicly shamed, put on a list, sent to prison, and be guaranteed to be unable to find a decent job?" [+290]

        In reply to zidanetribal on "Florida child sex sting leads to arrest of 22 suspects, including Methodist pastor who worked in schools":

        This brings up a gray area. Should hs seniors date freshmen?

        At 2016-09-16 21:13:30 UTC, 00000001010011010 wrote [+285 points: +285, -0]:

        Should they? Who knows.

        But if they do, should they be arrested, publicly shamed, put on a list, sent to prison, and be guaranteed to be unable to find a decent job?

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        [–]wolololololo2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        well why not? If you have shown you prey on children or adults sexually or otherwise you don't deserve to be free to roam around ruining lives and harming others.

        [–]Brive_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        yes, please.

        [–]Bob_Bobinson -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Should they...?

        Yes. They should.

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          [–]VorpalEskimoSummum bonum in mundo exterminium "albus populo". 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You must not own a mirror.

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