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[–]Cannedpears 35ポイント36ポイント  (23子コメント)

You've got all these Hillary supporters taking video with their phones but I can't find a single one online. Not one person uploaded what they recorded at this event to social media? Someone prove me wrong please.

[–]zenslapped 15ポイント16ポイント  (20子コメント)

https://youtu.be/h9PiJHRIV9I ... Here it is guys. Definitely a faked background. Notice this room matches what is in the phone screens - balcony and all. What's going on here? Blocking people for some reason?

[–]HarryParatesties 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

It looks like it was filmed with the highest quality potato.

[–]Chillypill 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I wonder if they are doing this because of her medical condition? It would be to stressfull for her to do a real rally and should would get a seizure or something.

Makes sense doesn't it?

[–]NecrosedVales 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Agreed. My guess is that they are having a live rally and a recorded rally so if she does spaz out during a live rally they can show the masses via tv/internet a reenactment of the event without anything that could hurt her "healthy image".

[–]holocauster-ride 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or she is using a body double and they are using computers to make it look more realist IC for the TV

[–]Cannedpears 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks! Found ol' purple arms. http://imgur.com/a/ptaMG

[–]rabbits_dig_deep 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What is the significance of the purple arms? Please elaborate.

[–]Cannedpears 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To me, in the original video they looked as if they were CG. I guess it was the lighting.

[–]MOCKxTHExCROSS 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow that is so weird. Why would they go to all this effort to edit the footage?

[–]murtokala 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

What background? I see nothing fake in this video you posted. And reflecting what we see here to the OP video, the original is just filmed with a high zoom lens to bring the US flag behind Hillary that big while from any other angle or with a wide angle lens it would not look like that.

[–]bittermanscolon 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

He is saying this is a legit video and the one the OP has posted shows obvious signs of CGI or green screen work. Zen only confirms there is something going on as there is nothing like that going on in the video he found.

[–]murtokala 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

What CGI signs? We see the phones filming and those match well with the second angle video. Also the official cam can now be better understood, to my eye it shows exactly the right things too when compared with the second angle. Just a high zoom lens, showing such a small and flattened view.

[–]bittermanscolon 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Really, you don't see it? Right after she is introduced, you can't miss it around her hair, for one. You don't see it?

[–]-R0SE 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll be honest I'm not seeing it either. I do believe Clinton is liferally a pile of bullshit and lies, but honestly, I've worked plenty with film and video editing, and I don't see any green screen work. It could just be due to the fact that I'm on my phone, so enhancing on an actual desktop might help, but still...

The only thing that weirds me out is the phones. Firstly, at least with the handful of talks I've seen on TV, fuckin... there are never that many phones out at once. Looks like everyone is recording with their HD smart phone. Not to mention the exposure on every screen happens to be set almost identical and the camera recording the event isn't experiencing any issues with their screens or viewing angles... THAT'S what bugs me. The phones are fucky.

[–]murtokala 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most keep their phone screens and camera on auto settings so I think it's no wonder they look closely the same. The zoom lens on the TV cam too makes it seem almost everyone is filming, but I see that as an effect of the lens flattening any depth.

But yeah, I agree there are quite many of them despite the above, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were told to film. For wharever reason

[–]murtokala 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Could you be more specific? Her hair great for green screens, not fuzzy or anything, but other than that I could not see any artifacts even when she walked behind the prompter - took a look frame by frame too.

Also if you watch the second angle video her movements match 1:1 as far as I can see.

And to be clear I'm not trying to defend her. This instance just does not seem like a part of a conspiracy to me.

[–]Xanje25[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you looking at it on a computer monitor? The first time I watched it was on my own computer and it was blatantly obvious. I watched it on my moms computer and it seemed like the whole video was much lower quality. Not sure if it was a lower quality screen, internet, etc. or the conspiracy theorist inside of me thinks youtube could have lowered the quality so its harder to tell lol. Probably just a different screen

[–]weeeeeeeeeeeeeeed420 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

you do not understand green screens.

[–]murtokala 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would like to. If this is a conspiracy then help me see it too

[–]mrcassette 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This guys phone at the end is totally not the view in front of him

https://youtu.be/NnUg9ztXWoI?t=24m52s

http://imgur.com/is33xYj

[–]worktheshoot 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a very interesting point

[–]andredawson 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

We suck. People believe what they are told.

[–]sweet_data 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/rY1TU9F.png - not one red and white flag on any screen. wtf?

[–]Persicifox 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

https://imgur.com/a/WkHq3 and pointing to a wall hahahhh

[–]covert-pops 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

What's the context during that?

[–]Persicifox [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

She was waving to the crowd, then pointed, then starting waving again.

[–]covert-pops [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Holy shit lol.

[–]Persicifox [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They either think we're stupid, or really don't give a shit if we figure out their bullshit. I don't know which one is more infuriating.

[–]El_O_El 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

yeah, something is definitely amiss, and the green screen idea is growing on me. As I watch I just get such a "canned" feeling about the whole thing, it just doesn't sound like theres the correct atmospheric background noise, n the crowd's response is so even as if it was achieved with a dial or something. How can anyone believe any of this shit the Elite/Illuminati is forcing through, via mASS media anymore? Glad I don't own a tv,

[–]worktheshoot 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yupp it's the vibe or aura of the whole thing. It just feels off. Also, too many people with camera phones taking pics. That's. Not realistic. And someone with a tablet? Lol

[–]weeeeeeeeeeeeeeed420 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

there was maybe 150 people in attendance.

[–]missleavenworth 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe I'm just having trouble understanding what I'm seeing, but look at the phone screens of people recording (in the first minute). It seems that the phones are showing similar scenes, but nothing that looks like the background in the youtube. I'm not seeing the hanging flags in the phones. And I am seeing some blue or green rectangle in the phone that I'm not seeing in the background.

[–]Xanje25[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently she also used a green screen for a speech in Reno, NV too. In that one, it shows people recording videos of her on stage, directly in front of them, with a similar american flag background, and the phones do not show flags at all.

[–]busboy207 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can see in the phone screens that are facing her as she's entering the area have the bright blue logo that's on the podium. The problem is that she is at ground level coming from the far right of the stage.

[–]perfect_pickles 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

amazing how at one 'rally' she has brown eyes not blue.

and at Des Moine it was total photoshop

HRC circa 2016 is fake and/or dead. or nearly dead.

r/hillaryclinton has 27K members and almost no activity.

r/the_donald has 250K members and hundreds of comments per post.

HRC is a failed marketing ploy.

saying that HRC in some format prob will 'win' the election, then we get a CGI POTUS and hell on earth...

[–]Axana 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

For comparison, /r/HillaryForPrison has over 57,000 subscribers.

[–]TRMIB 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Look at social media engagement too. Trump blows her away on FB and Twitter in terms of fans AND likes/engagement on every post. 5:1. The establishment wants the world to think that she is loved (and Trump is hated) by the majority of Americans. But hard stats show otherwise.

social media popularity

[–]Wehmer 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think very few people are pro-Hillary, but there are many many people who are anti-Trump. That's where her polling numbers come from. No one actually wants her to be president, many just prefer her to the alternative.

[–]Duke_Lurkington 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

On top of that probably 25% of her followers are there just to troll her

[–]Rattatatt -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's really sad that Trumpe appeals to so many with divisive identity politics. That these messages are popular. (Here come the downvotes)

I think most people are unenthusiastic and not going to vote, extremists on both ends will be at the polls.

[–]OnAllDAY 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The_donald is like a light version of /pol/ though.

[–]bananapeel 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can you give more info on the 'brown eyes' thing? Have not heard about this one.

[–]deadlyjrmint 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

A thought: 90% of people voting will be watching videos on their phones unable to tell if the videos in question have been doctored

[–]Rattatatt 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm on my phone. I can tell the atmospheric perspective is being manipulated in a way that a camera lense can't produce. Look at the edges of the camera phone screens verses the lack of sharpness in detail of everything else in that plane. The renderers lost the forest for the trees. This is basic art 201 stuff. Can't they afford better audio visual shills?

[–]deadlyjrmint 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah you are completely correct. There is only one problem though: you are looking for it.

How many people lack the environment and attention to detail to pick this stuff out while watching and rooting for their decided victor?

[–]Haelton 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Got any timestamps in particular, I don't want to watch the whole thing.

[–]corigander 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Small but visible cut at 8:50, points to a wall like she recognizes it at 23:50. (Thank you youtube comment section.)

[–]Xanje25[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its pretty much just the beginning couple minutes. Whoever the fuck announce her and she walks in. Thats where you see people "recording videos" and the transition of her walking onto the stage is where the green screen is most obvious.

[–]daddyderp23 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

0:47 Looks like there is a screen in the camera images.

[–]joe_fabeetz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like a Hollywood makeup job complete with facial prostheses courtesy of JJ Abrams studios!!!!!!!!!!

[–]SloppySniper 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

The "angles and perspective" excuse is laughable. The phones are showing exactly what the crowd is recording, not our birds eye perspective. They are fucking with us, seeing what they can get away with, and with a dumbed down populace, CTR, and the DNC, it is clear that they can get away with anything.

[–]Rattatatt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's so fucking sloppy. My God, have they no self respect? If you're going to throw an election, be convincing.

[–]Jeffersonien 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

100 likes 700 thumbs down - that's the story right there. She has no real support. Also listen to her at 23:40 - she's so GD disingenuous it's pathetic.

Green screen? Eh I don't think so - phones are too out of focus to be definitive. Green screens used for the Orlando shooting PsyOp hoax were much more obvious.

Someone in comments said look at her wave at the wall behind her at 23:35 or so --- she's clearly waving not directly behind her but behind her and to the left where there is a (probably paid for) group of people.

Green screen? No.
Totally fabricated event and support?

You betcha.

[–]Xanje25[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

I really dont get how anyone tries to deny the green screen. Try pulling it up on a computer monitor where you can enlarge it. The edges of her body are very obvious.

Also love the bit where they start chanting her name. Its funny because no one really loves her.

[–]Worfrat1 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Usually when they start chanting her name, it's because someone in the audience is heckling her.

[–]perfect_pickles 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Des Moines is photoshoped pictures.

[–]flyyyyyyyyy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

good call, but it's friggin bizarre to me that google doesn't fake the votes. maybe CTR didn't opt for the Total Deception package?

[–]cutol -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yah, the claims from OP are ridiculous. It's a double in front of a green screen before a live audience! Why?

What would a green screen even matter, this is an advertisement.

[–]Hankjansson 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ok so if it were a greenscreen, wouldn't the phone show the greenscreen?

[–]Definitely-Not-CIA 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The images on the phone were preloaded onto the screen. They're not actually taking a picture of anything, they're just holding up their phone so it looks like they are.

[–]Hankjansson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes preload them with images WITHOUT Hillary Clinton on them. Where's the logic

[–]Atalanta8 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't get it there are plenty of people in the BG why edit it all out? Even if they do not need to lie they still do? wtf?

[–]jackalpappy1 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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[–]toneii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's no way those are real people. It's all rendered. You can tell in the picture of old purple arms. Good job, but ultimstely, obvious.

[–]pjvex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it could be staged but not greenscreened necessarily. Staged to show this crowd indoors. I mean how many people are in that room? Shouldn't a Hillary rally have at least 5000 attendees?

[–]ohgodwhatthe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why would they greenscreen a rally only to have a guy in the background go "Fuck Hillary!" to what sounded like cheers?

[–]outbackdude 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This would be almost impossible to do with green screen. Speaking from experience.

[–]inbetweentime -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hillary makes me sick but this theory is stupid. I'm 95% sure it was started yesterday to discredit this sub. And more will come.

There's nothing painfully obvious here. Angles people. Angles.

[–]Xanje25[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

You can use the "angles" defense on the phone screens all you want.

  1. People are trying to record videos of Hillary (theoretically). you cant see her on the phone screens at all just some walls. Do people really wanna record walls that badly?

  2. You can tell the videos/phone screens are edited onto the phones themselves. Edges of the videos are slightly pixelated.

  3. The phones arent the only thing that prove the whole thing fake. You can see pixelated/blurry edges around hillary's body.

[–]toneii 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah guys, we better be careful, or our credibility might be diminished.

[–]humbleirony 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but it's the credibility of the sub that makes people seriously consider things like this whole greenscreen thing. Maybe once the sub loses all credibility people will actually vet the information.

We might not be able to win, but we can't lose either.

Think about it :)

[–]sativadaze -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yea this is a way far-fetched. Even if it was greenscreened, it's obviously her, and its obviously post 9/11/16. So that being the case and seeing her healthy, there's no reason for them to fake this...

[–]Xanje25[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Never tried to claim it wasnt her. And how is it far fetched? If you look at the details on a good resolution computer monitor you will see what everyone else is seeing. Half of the point is that it is after the 9/11 collapse. She is trying to pass herself off as fine and healthy, but cant even make a public appearance.

Or actually, shes done this before in Reno, NV. I think thats shes just not good at doing anything live, unfiltered, and honest.

[–]Rattatatt 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Public speaking and debates are probably a weakness. Also, appearing to maintain homeostasis.