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[–]bacon_cake 266ポイント267ポイント  (26子コメント)

Yeah it really sucks. I'm surprised by the comments here from people telling you to just get over it. Some people want to be able to enjoy the game!

[–]IAimToMisbehave29[S] 79ポイント80ポイント  (24子コメント)

I really do love this game's concept and to some extent, its execution. It's just really painful that there's nothing to do in it.

[–]Knightmare4469 65ポイント66ポイント  (12子コメント)

It's just really painful that there's nothing to do in it.

You don't think that's really going to change, do you? This is the game, this is it. If it took years to create this empty, nothing-to-do game, what gives you the idea there's going to be some grand revolution all of a sudden generating a million things to do?

[–]theblasphemer 18ポイント19ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is what a lot of people don't understand. The game basically needs to be reworked, almost from scratch, to become the game we were shown. This is not happening anytime soon. I don't think anything they do in the near future will change the game drastically or regain sales.

[–]conno80 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

NMS 2?

[–]UnoDosMoltres 33ポイント34ポイント  (3子コメント)

Preorder today!

[–]Dirtbikes95 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Already pre-ordered, and they haven't even started on it yet! Man, preordering is the best thing ever, I ALWAYS get what's advertised, and, I get the game to myself for a few days, because, other people are waiting for reviews! Hah, skrubs!

[–]mostknowlegewins 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

But what do you do?!

[–]Sean_Lied 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Every disappointment procedurally generated!

[–]TeamAquaGrunt 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

we rearanged the periodic table to create entirely new shades of disappointment!

[–]TheSlimyDog 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a lot of people still think of this as an early release version of the game and hope that they'll slowly add things to do and make the game more fleshed out in a while.

[–]ScurvyDawg 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's like the Seinfeld of games. lol

[–]lascanto 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's actually funny, the first system I named was "Vandelay". I guess you could say most of what I do in the game is import/export. Mostly export though.

[–]Stumble_Stop_Repeat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Import /export is what I do IRL too x)

[–]shitishouldntsay 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some people want a fucking refund. Noone gets what they want from this game.

[–]King_Baboon 193ポイント194ポイント  (7子コメント)

Hello Games: "Thanks for the $60.00".

[–]rationalcomment 60ポイント61ポイント  (6子コメント)

[–]stonecolddevin 24ポイント25ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm really grossed out by the fact that he's not wearing shoes or at least some god damn socks in that last photo

[–]Foxcookies 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

hes pullin a Steve Jobs on us

[–]CellularArrest 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's more of a Palmer Luckey thing. It's pretty common in the Cali dev scene though.

[–]FriendshipMystery 146ポイント147ポイント  (16子コメント)

They have not said anything because they have nothing to say. They are caught in a lie without a clue.

All I know is that a ten man team cannot produce a magical dlc. You should get used to the game as it is. Base building will not fix it.

[–]droppingknowledge3 34ポイント35ポイント  (4子コメント)

What I like most is that Sean went out and specifically said that all trailers are from raw game play:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/no-mans-sky-dev-talk-pressure-of-hype-why-it-turne/1100-6428880/

This is after turning down more money to polish the game

[–]juusukun 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

This makes me mad... The whole development team probably got to play the game that we saw in the trailers with co-op mode... They probably all got to play together... The rest of us pay $80 for a game missing most of what we saw in the trailers and none of us get to play with anyone else. It's such a lonely universe

[–]jgrx1 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

Tell me exactly why everyone wants base building so bad. Is the biggest flaw of this game not that it is devoid of narrative, risk, and reward?

[–]Debo_Devo 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go on take the money and run

[–]Booface100 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

They have nothing to say because the entire pr team left after release. The community manager and the senior producer -- who approved copy for Sony and worked closely with Sony pr machine -- are gone.

They hired 2 devs and someone else in the mean time.

You don't think sean liked being the front man? He's the company director, and without a pr team, no one encourages him to speak so he doesn't.

[–]CrudeMocha 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

How do you know these things?

[–]Booface100 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Take a look at http://www.no-mans-sky.com/contact/ on August 8, just before release, and now. There are two names missing. Them do a quick Google search and you'll find your answer of what they did for the company.

/u/the_mens wrote about it but it looks like the mods removed it? I guess because it gave their actual names (which are on nms website anyways)

[–]devinup 149ポイント150ポイント  (6子コメント)

Say something I'm giving up on you

[–]Octo_Prime 92ポイント93ポイント  (4子コメント)

"We are working hard on a patch that will eliminate a bug that affects 0.1% of users. Thanks for supporting our game!"

[–]mbrochh 69ポイント70ポイント  (2子コメント)

But 0.1% of their users are exactly the ones who are still playing!

[–]ThisIsTheMilos 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's only .1% of active users, so 2 people.

[–]Agkistro13 60ポイント61ポイント  (14子コメント)

I don't want updates, at this point I want a post mortem. The 'maybe this game won't be shit after a couple patches' ship has sailed. More interested in the story of what happened behind closed doors now.

[–]Sao_Gage 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

That will be a very interesting story, for sure. I'd think it more likely we'd get the inside scoop someday if HG was bigger, but with only a dozen devs it's much harder for them to maintain anonymity, even with an "anonymous" post.

I'd very much expect something like,

"We knew Sean was talking about things we'd never have ready for release, we were just instructed to cram as much in that wouldn't completely tank performance as we could."

Also something like,

"We found out pretty early on that the engine wasn't going to support many of the more elaborate features we aspired to, but a decision was made to soldier on despite that and hope for the best."

[–]nomanspicard 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was released a month ago.

That escalated quickly.

[–]cadeon 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

I think the post mortem sounds something like this:

" We had the game we showed in the trailers. That's how we made the trailers. Sony was impressed and showed up with a suitcase of money and promises to handle PR. All we had to do was release on PS4 first.

Of course we accepted. Why wouldn't we?

Once Sony got involved, I was on talk shows talking about the game. We were working on the PS4 port, and, well, it didn't all fit.

Sony didn't like the performance we were getting with the full game on PS4- procedural generation happens on the CPU, and frankly the PS4's CPU was maxed out by the basics... So we started hacking it down, trying to get the frame rate they required. Feature after feature hit the floor. Still, things were fine, we were only hacking up the PS4 version...

The difference between the PS4 version and PC version became so dramatic that Sony told us that we had to release the same game on PS4 and PC - otherwise the platform would look bad, and they were already losing gamers to PC. Our world then became a mad scramble to port the cut-down PS4 version back to PC.

We even had boxes for the PC version printed already, and had to hide the word "multiplayer" on the already printed boxes. Multiplayer was always going to be in it, but it was one of the features cut late in the PS4 cut-down... not because of performance really, but because of the complexity of moving all of the multiplayer code to the PSN API, and then maintaining a separate set of multiplayer code for PC. Remember, we had to ship the same game on both platforms, keeping an identical feature set here was nearly impossible - so it had to be cut, per Sony's direction.

Of COURSE the PC launch was buggy. We barely got it to COMPILE cleanly before we had to ship. And OF COURSE Sony didn't allow us to ship review copies to anyone pre-release, they knew how much we had to chop it up and knew we weren't going to match the product their PR hype engine had sold.

So we shipped it. And now we're stuck, because we have the complete game, but we can't give it to anyone, because it has to be the same game on PS4 and PC.

Sony's already trying to distance themselves from this release, and they are actively looking for a scapegoat. As such we've been ordered to stay silent while our customers beg for information. Even if we could talk, I don't know what we could say without throwing Sony under the bus... and honestly that's not fair.

While I could say that all of this was due to Sony's involvement, it was also Sony's involvement that enabled us to ship a game at all. NMS was a gigantic undertaking, and as an indie studio we never would have made it this far without accepting their help. We signed a deal which made a lot possible that previously wasn't, but it also hurt our creative freedom, as such deals usually do.

All I can do is hope that the PS4 Pro can handle more of the original features, and that Sony allows us to release those features for the Pro- Sony's kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place, though, because if the PS4 Pro gets a drastically better version of NMS, they are basically telling the world the better version existed already but it was neutered to perform on the PS4.

So Hello Games, like our customers, has to wait. "

[–]IDGAFOS 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think thats giving the team a lot of credit... everything they showed for the game was completely scripted. I don't think the features were in at any point

[–]Agkistro13 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Eh. It's hard to believe anything about this turd was straining the capabilities of the PS4. What's more, Elite Dangerous has a full sized, procedurally generated, multiplayer galaxy, and it's on XboX One.

Are the Xbox and PS4 really so different that one could handle a procedural universe and the other one can't?

[–]cadeon 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

NMS's procedural galaxy is wayyyyyy different than Elite's. It's not fair to compare them.

[–]Agkistro13 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

If somebody is going to say that a current generation console can't handle a procedural galaxy, then I think it's fair to point out that there is one that is doing so. Sure, they aren't the same, but is there some specific thing about NMS you had in mind that makes it strain what a PS4 can handle?

[–]senor_flojo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt it's a hardware issue, so much as a programming issue.

[–]7101334 267ポイント268ポイント  (38子コメント)

I'm fucking out and done checking every day for updates.

That'll show 'em!

[–]originalSpacePirate 36ポイント37ポイント  (17子コメント)

Well actually it would. Player counts have already drastically dropped, if it drops even further this game would be classified as dead and no one would give a shit if they updated it in future

[–]pstuddy 22ポイント23ポイント  (9子コメント)

too bad they wouldn't care cuz they already got the moola which really sucks!

[–]KnowNothingNerd 19ポイント20ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah, but as an indie studio and by alienating fans/players you really hurt your chances at your next game bringing people in. They need to say something.

I played and enjoyed it at first, then got bored doing the same thing over and over. I explored thinking there was more. There wasn't. I'm not angry or on a rage level like some folks, but I'm upset I was mislead. I could give them benefit of the doubt if they communicated and said they made a mistake and xyz features are coming soon. As it stands now though, I'm gonna take it as a loss and just ignore any future products they release. Gonna throw my money at devs more deserving of it and keep doing that.

[–]pstuddy 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

oh, i totally agree. just saying as of now, even if the community of no man's sky dies, they wouldn't even care cuz they already got rich off of it.

but like you said, if they ever plan on making another game, it's going to be tough for them. but unfortunately for us and fortunately for them, i think with the millions they already made, they're set for life already and could just retire if they manage the money well.

[–]mcthornbody420 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

1,000,000 dollars in the bank will draw maybe 40k a year. I have been doing pretty good with even less then that. So the interest should keep him going, if he's frugal.

[–]dudeblackhawk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where the hell are you getting 4% interest? I'd love to put my money in your bank. Giggity.

[–]Suhn-Sol-Jashin 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

1mil divided by 20 employees though?

Subtracting costs too?

[–]TenshiS 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They didn't just make 1 mil profit off of this. The four founders probably got over 10mil a piece

[–]fiction8 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"The moola" is not a binary concept, you don't either have it or not. You always want more of it, no matter what. Launch sales alone aren't the ceiling unless a game is really terrible.

[–]NOTASOUND 78ポイント79ポイント  (16子コメント)

Refunding will as well.

[–]7101334 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

A little late for that, unless you recently purchased it.

[–]windows_plz 51ポイント52ポイント  (14子コメント)

Fuck these people downvoting you. The only thing they'll listen to is people taking their money back. Its the same thing you'd do if a wrong sized shirt was mailed to you.

[–]DiamondPup 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sony and Steam have both changed their stance on refunds for this game. Only a tiny amount of people actually got them and even those were exceptions.

So refunds are not an option.

[–]tankton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I got it refunded with in an hour where it can normally take up to a day.

[–]Erixperience 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll assume you have a better, more effective suggestion?

[–]monokrome 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, now it's only every other day!!!

[–]Rose_Beef 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

The drama and BS surrounding NMS is way more fun than NMS.

[–]PhityCent 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

...you're still playing..?

[–]IAimToMisbehave29[S] 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

I stopped playing maybe like 3 weeks ago, but I'm so in love with this game's bones that it really pains me that there's nothing to do in it.

[–]Indefinita 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am, a couple hours a week. It's good for relaxing a bit between classes but doesn't make for serious gameplay

[–]BlackHawkGS 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm amazed at posts where people are getting 50-100+ hours in this game. I literally have no idea what they're doing all that time. At about 20 hours in I'd experienced most of the major variations in the procedural generation and completed the Atlas path. I even messed around along the way, played with some animals, got into a few dogfights near capital ships, etc.

But after that... I don't get it. Are you guys just... staring at things?

[–]Pelagiad 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

Entitled BS? Wtf you have every right to feel entitled, you paid real money for their product, you are entitled to what you were promised.

[–]Smuggler-Tuek 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know at what point the word entitled became an insult. We paid for the game, the game came out, we literally are entitled to what we purchased. If I order a shirt on Amazon and they send me one sock am I just crazy to want the fucking shirt I paid for? Or should I just be happy I got some form of cotton?

[–]Manggo 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah it's annoying that a lot of comments from various boards or people saying "You got the game! He said it was a 'chill' game, and you got it from them. Stop complaining". I never bitch about stuff like this, but this was actual blatant false advertising/lying, right up until release.

I'm lucky Sony agreed to refund my digital copy. I hope others jumped on the chance to do so as well.

[–]Suhn-Sol-Jashin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not until release.

After release too.

Those earlier trailers are the trailers on steam and psn.

[–]AG74683 37ポイント38ポイント  (5子コメント)

If anything major comes out for this game, I'd be surprised. No major user base anymore, and they made a boat load off the initial launch. There is literally no reason for them to continue work on it. Their reputation is trash. This game is dead.

And it freaking disgusts me. I bought into this game because of the "passion" that Sean and the HG crew showed during the entire development. I know better now. It was a freaking scam. There is no passion, only greed. Fuck Hello Games and fuck Sean Murrary. They had everything, this game could have been something real, something ground breaking. They created a fucking UNIVERSE and threw it all away. Shame on them, and shame on Sony for supporting this garbage and not holding them to a higher standard, one we all deserved. I won't trade this game in. I'll keep it front and center. Gathering dust. So I remember that no developer really truly has our best interests in mind, it's all about the bottom dollar and to pre-order anything is a waste of money and perpetuates this crap development and paid DLC forced down our throats to give us content that we should have gotten from the very beginning.

[–]Agkistro13 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know, I could ALMOST believe it was all a big misunderstanding- boohoo deadlines, boo hoo things had to be cut, boo hoo that's how it goes, and see it as a tragedy instead of a scam.

But they had to put a review embargo to keep anybody from warning the people who had preordered before the sales were final.

Sean had to go on Twitter and beg people not to look at leaked footage.

They had to release a day one patch that 'completely changed the game' so PC players couldn't rely on PS4 gameplay videos to make a decision.

They had to go and lie in the day one patch notes about planetary rotation, and Sean had to go ahead and lie on Twitter about people not seeing each other being because of server load.

So yeah, it's a fucking scam. None of that shit is an accident.

[–]praystationfoh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had a bad feeling when they tore the covers of old sci-fi books and put them on the wall as inspiration instead of actually reading them...

[–]Prophet_Of_Loss 78ポイント79ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sean posted a short video as a heartfelt message to all his supporters: https://youtu.be/YuoToHKCas4

[–]xSerenadex 45ポイント46ポイント  (8子コメント)

There is no roadmap or future for the game. They released it, and now they are just patching up the bullshit they couldnt fix before launch. Thats it. There is no DLC, there is nothing else coming to the game.

[–]HotpotatotomatoStew 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'll see. Perhaps you're right but there are equal and opposite odds that you aren't.

[–]ikilledtupac 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

its funny too, cuz you know they see this subreddit, probably every day.

[–]Kesuke 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

Personally (this isn't a defense of Hello Games) I can understand why they have been reluctant to say anything. At this stage if Sean tries to write a blog, a tweet or make a video it will just be seized upon and he will be further vilified by an angry community. Why would you bring that on yourself? Why entrench yourself as a hate-figure?

I basically see a clever developer (Sean) and a decent studio (Hello Games) with a smart idea of a procedurally generated universe, set in the style of 70s sci-fi/futurism. In many respects the procedural generation is technically very advanced, but most players are primarily interested in the experience rather than the technical aspects. Where the game fell down was it was deliberately over-hyped by the publisher and sold at a price point which was just too high. At £40/$60 users were expecting a really massive game, and what they got lacked significant depth. I suspect as well that the studio knew they were not ready for release and for whatever reason couldn't delay any further beyond the already delayed August release (maybe because of agreements with the publisher).

I think if the cost had been closer to £20/$30 there would be a lot less anger. In many respects the high price point reinforced users belief that the game would be massive. To some extent I think the publisher and maybe Hello Games encouraged that a little bit by being so coy about what features would and wouldn't be in the game.

From a PR point of view the best thing for Hello Games to do is go completely silent. Then, when they are ready, release a patch to fix game-breaking issues and update the content. Seans best bet is to disappear for a while and let some of the vitriolic anger directed at him subside. The game is clearly a huge effort by both him, the studio and the publisher. It isn't necessarily very fair to direct all that hatred against one cog in that very large machine.

[–]ohmslyce 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

What does it matter if Sean's further vilified? His reputation is already trash. People think of him as a thief and a liar already so why not just come out and be honest? Could his rep get any worse?

[–]Agkistro13 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'd just like to point out that the last explicit communication Sean gave about the issues in this game was a Tweet suggesting that people can't see each other because of server load.

Who cares what a lying snake like that has to say?

[–]kcm117 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just accepted defeat. I wasted $60 that I will never get back, Steam wouldn't give me a refund. I will never play the game again I wish I could go back in time and tell myself not to get it and not to voluntarily give my money to those crooks.

[–]indeepth0ught 51ポイント52ポイント  (54子コメント)

Well at least there's a lesson to be learned about not believing hype and that con artists in the video game industry somehow escape all consequences for some reason.

[–]mrpinc 61ポイント62ポイント  (29子コメント)

You're right. Had Sean come out early and said "I messed up, I promised things I couldn't deliver and got in over my head but we're working on things and we're going to keep adding features over the next year", I think many would be more understanding.

Instead he's silent, which makes me and others wonder, "maybe he was scamming us the whole time".

I was sympathetic but now I'm not. It pisses me off that it's OK to talk to people when you're asking for their money but as soon as you've got it from them...well then there's silence.

*Edited because it got personal, sorry.

[–]babybigger 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

Had Sean come out early and say "I messed up, I promised things I couldn't deliver and go in over my head but we're working on things and we're going to keep adding features over the next year" Instead he's silent, which makes me and others wonder, "maybe he was scamming us the whole time".

In the last year or six months before release, Sean knew if he admitted all of those things he said weren't going to be in the game, then they would sell a lot less copies. He made a decision to not saying anything, and make millions more in sales. He was scamming people this way: letting them think the things he said would be in the game were still in there.

He was probably advised by lawyers at some point around release to not say anything about the missing features.

It was deceptive. As the owner of HG, he personally became richer from this strategy of fooling people.

[–]smurphatron 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're right. Had Sean come out early and say "I messed up, I promised things I couldn't deliver and go in over my head but we're working on things and we're going to keep adding features over the next year"

I don't you finished your sentence

[–]Nyphur 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The way he drops his head and smiles whenever someone was impressed with the "features" during interviews should've been a sign

[–]syrne 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lesson learned? This lesson has been pounded into our faces repeatedly by developers, AAA and indie alike and yet preorders are still a huge thing even with digital games that can't possibly sell out.

[–]Miv333 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

entitled

This is used as a slur too often, people are starting to accept it simple as that. But if you are a paying customer you sure are entitled.

[–]Gabe_b 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cubeworld 2.0

[–]Spottybag 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sometimes, when you get conned, you've got to just accept it and move on. There's no way in hell that they'll make enough changes to the game to bring it up to an acceptable standard - too much of it is flawed. Enjoy it for as long as you can and forget about it. Try not to get ripped off next time.

[–]babybigger 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This would be good:

If they don't send an outline of the current problems and the roadmap for this game in the future

and entirely something Sean can do.

[–]JayCartah 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're trying to "refine" their player base haha what a fucking crock dude.

[–]kendirect 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone remember that Dinosaur game where the deva ran away. The Stomping Ground?

Is this a repeat?

[–]WackyModder84 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This post does not come across as entitled bullshit, dude.

You have every single right to be upset with the way Hello Games have handled this game, and the way that they've been so cryptic and vague with their responses about this game to their fans.

I'd be pissed too.

[–]Bynnh0j 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Am I allowed to say NMS is worse than Spore yet?

[–]Kashorne 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only thing you can do is tiny and maybe too big for some un-follow their twitter accounts. You can still check them just do not follow them.

[–]Travesty9090 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This post is 100% not entitled BS. People paid for this product. They deserve to know when, or if, they're going to get what they paid for.

[–]Mardoo 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

game is dead and shit, let's just move on guys.

[–]ProceduralGoat 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, if its starting to make you bitter probably best to give it a break for a while then come back after a feature update.

There's been a few updates here: http://www.no-mans-sky.com/news/

Way more information there than they could convey by tweeting.

[–]cone_eater 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd say that's good advice that I'm going to do myself. I've been meaning to play either Deus Ex, Inside, Rocket League's new update or the Death Star DLC for Battlefront. I'll return to NMS down the road and hopefully things will have been improved.

Otherwise, I can always trade it in. I know I'm picking up the new Mass Effect in the spring, so it would be nice to have a credit towards that.

[–]tyrico 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol its been two weeks since they posted any concrete information and even that was just a summary of info they had been posting along with each patch. its fucking ridiculous at this point.

[–]uneekdesigns 28ポイント29ポイント  (15子コメント)

No matter what they say... You and a lot of people won't be happy until there are actual improvements to the game on the features that we thought would be there. I am also sure someone at Sony has told HG to just put your head down and work on the game and don't say a word until you can show results. So unless you just want him to speak so you can criticize him, I really don't see what him talking is going to do. Me personally, I just want to know when we can expect the updates. But I don't care to read more of "we are working on..." I already know that.

You have a right to be upset but truthfully, I still feel bad for HG because this game is a labor of love for them. They might have been rushed to get the game out. We don't know the business behind the scenes stuff but there is one thing I do know is that there is no way that the guys at HG are happy that so many people are unhappy. Even with that and the mess I still enjoy the game.

[–]xx00xx00xx 54ポイント55ポイント  (4子コメント)

No Mans Sky Delusion Scoring System


  • Unwarranted sympathy for Hello Games and/or Sean <pass>

  • Somehow Sony's fault <pass>

  • Hello Games has been working sooo hard <fail>

  • They are a small team and/or passionate indie developer <pass>

  • Updates are coming and/or excited to see the new content <fail>

  • I must be the only one enjoying this game <fail>


Final score (3/6 - Moderate Delusion)

[–]smurphatron 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Somehow Sony's fault <pass>

All he said is that Sony probably gave them some good advice

[–]Agkistro13 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

No matter what they say... You and a lot of people won't be happy until there are actual improvements to the game on the features that we thought would be there. I am also sure someone at Sony has told HG to just put your head down and work on the game and don't say a word until you can show results.

I highly doubt that. Sony has been around too long to think not talking to the community is a good idea. It's not as though refusing to engage keeps the conversation from happening. If Hello Games has nothing to say, their critics will simply say it for them- and they have been. Smart companies get out in front of bad press and spin it into an advantage if possible. They don't just sit there mute letting their most vocal critics control the conversation.

[–]Chickenberg 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Really? I for one would LOVE Sean to at least give us a summary of the new features their working on. So far, since release, Sean has said nothing to us about the game, he knows people dislike the game and HG but instead of saying "we're sorry, here are some features we are planning" he goes "wow this is great, 2 people meet first day!" He's a scammer.

[–]chipperpip 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except if they say what they're planning currently and then find out when they try to finish implementing it that it's not feasible or just isn't fun, we're back to the original problem.

[–]tyrico 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I for one just think it is absurd that Sean wouldn't shut up for years prior to launch of the game and now that its released and garnered so much criticism, he won't say a word despite people begging for some kind of statement.

[–]babybigger 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

there is no way that the guys at HG are happy

Yeah, even though Sean just personally made millions off this game, I am sure he is really unhappy. Poor Sean.

[–]ButtRobot 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah poor Sean. I'm sure he's drowning his sorrows on a big pile of money in a luxury house somewhere. Poor guy.

[–]jgrx1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are allowed as a customer to at least demand an answer as to why your expensive AAA game actually turned out to be an early access unfinished indie game that runs like shit.

[–]TiSoBr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a whole month since Seans last tweet. I think we can leave this sinking ship now.

[–]DemonGroover 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Coming soon......."Features we took out so we could release on time" DLC...$29.99

[–]papatapapata 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah elite dangerous already did that

[–]schlitzngigglz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm playing it right now, but I agree 100%.

This guy will never my money again if he doesn't speak up and give us the truth about what happened, and what's going to happen. I will definitely check titles for his name and boycott them if I find it, unless he comes clean.

I'm sure because of the shitstorm he's created they've decided on a ban from social media of any kind, but this is exactly the opposite of what they should've done. They could have just been honest.

There's a great foundation here. Please don't completely try to bury it in stupid decision after stupid decision.

Gamers won't forget.

[/edits for shit spelling on cell]

[–]phaerodox 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

This isn't entitled BS.This sub is full of people who do not want to admit they wasted $60 on something that feels like an alpha test. Take it from me, I bought it launch day and really liked it the first 25 hours of gamplay. But it's simply just not a good game. It's incomplete. It has SOOOOOO much potential. It gets very grindy with minimal reward. There's nothing actually worth while in this game. There's like 4 planet landscapes you encounter and most animals and plant life look identical from planet to planet. Just gets really boring.

Look, I REALLY want to like this game. But it just isn't a full game. I'm sorry for being honest but please stop lying to yourselves. It doesn't matter if it was made by 3 people or 300 people, the game feels empty; incomplete. To top off the problems with the game, the developers haven't said a word. Now that is an embarrassment. Not acceptable on any level. Own up to the fact that you fucked up something even if you poured endless hours into it. It's part of being an adult. Grow up hello games.

[–]edsonde8at 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

tl;dr but you know when you have an argument with your girl over something dumb and suddenly anything you say gets twisted and scrutinized to a letter-by-letter level until she finds a way to put what you just said against you and there's no way to stop her from doing that but keeping your mouth shut even if she brings the "oh, so you're not going to talk to me now?"? Well, regardless of how shitty NMS came out as, I feel like this community is that angry girlfriend to Hello Games and they know it, no matter what they say, the shit will hit the fan so why bother until they actually have something done? I don't blame them.

[–]rgoff31-psn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

PR has not really been one of their strong points. I am sure I will be feeling this same way in 4-5 months if nothing changes.

[–]Wizuhd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I 100% get how this post comes across as entitled BS

No it doesn't an anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. You were objectively lied to and sold a product that was different than advertised, you are 100% owed an explanation

[–]redoctet 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Perhaps it's because any time Sean or Hellogames tweets, the response is... well...

https://imgur.com/a/NNJNT

For a moment put aside whether or not these responses are justifiable, and instead ask yourself how enthusiastic you would be to tweet something if it meant being an outpouring of hatred.

"But they deserve it!"

Ok. See above.

[–]Haltus_Kain 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I 100% get how this post comes across as entitled BS

No. You are entitled to what was advertised, that isn't BS.

If I hand you a brochure for a Lamborghini, make a sales pitch for a Lamborghini, and accept payment from you equal to the market price of a Lamborghini... you are entitled to a Lamborghini.

If, instead, I gave you a Honda Civic with a Lamborghini logo on the hood, there's a good chance you wouldn't hear from me again, either.

Hello Games committed false advertising, and in doing so, scammed all of us. We're trying to make the most of our Honda Civics - and by all means, there's nothing wrong with a Honda Civic - but there's nothing BS about being entitled to what we purchased... which is not what we received.

[–]SemperPrimus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

glad I refunded a while back

[–]Agkistro13 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are saying all they need to via their silence. This is a complete game. Yes, it's a shitty complete game, but Hello Games clearly doesn't view it as being so drastically different from their vision that an explanation is required. If they had some grand plan to make the game completely different and feature rich than it is now, they would have clarified that 1-2 days after release when everybody was first reeling with shock.

[–]Vlaid 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gotta admit, I lol'd pretty hard when reading the title.

[–]Spellsteam 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No this doesn't come off as entitled, you payed for a AAA game and got not that followed by no contact from the devs. Any other AAA game dev would be communicating more than nothing for a month. I understand Sean Murray does his own twitter, but he needs to hire someone to handle PR or do it himself because people are obviously pissed

[–]WedgeAA23 -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh look! This!

.....Again!

Sigh......

[–]Agkistro13 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

Feel free to post interesting threads about No Man's Sky gameplay if you think there's too much complaining on here.

Get it?

[–]originalSpacePirate 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You mean these endless landscape photoshop screenshots and same 4 combination animals are actually gettimg repetitive and boring?

[–]IAimToMisbehave29[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I was just venting. I really want to play this game but there's nothing to do anymore and there's no closure to be had. You just kind of reach a point where it's like "ok seen it all, guess i'll put my controller down". Sorry.

[–]TTNuge 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm out. Unsubbing, uninstalling. Fuck em.

[–]Hunam_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

What matters now, as always, is what we do rather than what we say. We’re developers, and our focus is first on resolving any issues people have with the game as it is, then on future free updates which will improve, expand and build on the No Man’s Sky universe.

[–]Octo_Prime 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Their comments about how they want to fix all the current problems before adding new content/features is a great cop-out. As long as there's something in the game that isn't working 100% correctly, they have a convenient excuse not to add anything to the game. And each time they release a patch, they can make sure there's still something left to fix, so they never have to add anything. They can just keep saying "Hey, guys, we've got some great stuff coming, as soon as we finish fixing these bugs!"

[–]8492_berkut -3ポイント-2ポイント  (7子コメント)

I honestly am not trying to be mean, but have you thought about taking up a hobby rather than wasting your free time on updates on this game?

[–]bacon_cake 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know about OP but I do plenty with my time and occasionally I see /r/nomansskythegame pop up on my front page which reminds me to check if it's worth buying yet. It's disappointing that the answer is continuously "no".

[–]IAimToMisbehave29[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm playing MGSV now and I work, have a wife, exercise, play MTG, read, watch movies and tv, do some woodworking, and dick around on the internet a lot so it's not like I'm clamoring for things to do, but I really love the bones of this game and would like an encouraging update about things we might be able to do in NMS in the future. Right now, it feels like a dead project.

[–]8492_berkut 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can't argue there. You also sound plenty busy, so why not drop the dead weight that is NMS from your schedule so you have time for the things you do enjoy?

Just sayin'. ;)

Me? I'm building a scale model. Can't help it - I'm a dork.

[–]IAimToMisbehave29[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sigh, I probably will.

I just fell in love with the universe and haven't really been disappointed like this with a content creator before. I wanted it to be like Minecraft where there was something in it that inspired infinite replay. Oh well. Good luck with the model.

[–]8492_berkut 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's hoping you (eventually) get the content you're craving.

[–]Pelagiad 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is this not a hobby in itself? Gaming, or NMS at the least

[–]Uberrancel 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, he thought he had bought a game as part of something to do........

[–]imariaprime 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sold it, got extra credit towards the "new" Witcher 3 complete edition. Better to cut ties while it still had over 50% of its value for trade-in; it was worth around $30 of gameplay as is.

Hoping for improvements was getting stressful, and I don't buy fucking games just to have yet another stress in my life.

[–]maximo101 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love the game, but after getting the platinum trophy and still being 160000 light years from the center, I have no motivation to kept playing. Ill throw it on in a blue moon to chill, but not often with new games coming out this period.

[–]pstuddy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hello Games: "Updates? Naw, we'll pass on that. Thanks for the offer though ;)"

Me: blank stare "mother...fucker......."

[–]Falophle88 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I loved this game. I knew what to expect but I also expected something more that what I got. I'm just super disappointed in what's at the center. I found out and immediately got rid of the game. Maybe if they add updates to it, I'll get it back later down the line. But I'm just disappointed in it

[–]w8cycle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I deleted it off my PS4 and haven't looked back. It was fun until I discovered for myself there is exactly jack shit to do.

[–]LiquidPunch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I ended up getting a refund and deleting my archived copy and uninstalled it... I hope no matter what it remains as a testament to whatever it should have been... but more so I hope that it gets some content injected into it. I'd be willing to pay asking price again if there was a goal beyond total reset... and some better faction type combat... 2 weapons and the same ships over and over with no way to tell anything apart? :(

[–]phforNZ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can't hear you over the sound of the money they're rolling in.

[–]Kcoin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fool me once...

At this point, I wouldn't believe any claims they make as to future feature rollout.

If you don't like the game as it is, I'm guessing you'll never like it. I finally traded it in today.

[–]Anach 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would assume at this point that nothing will be done, and it may receive patches with minor features and fixes, but nothing enough to make it an actual engaging game. I guess it's possible they could add some story DLC, but that's not really going to fit into the Sandbox very well, as once the content is done, we're back to the start. The best thing they could do is to add a complex building system, but I very much doubt it at this stage.

[–]IAimToMisbehave29[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah if they just added something that added replay value, it'd be awesome. I think about staking claim on territory in the galaxy and building bases and defenses from pirates, other factions, and....gasp...other players. That'd be cool.

[–]Kittani77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are too busy counting money right now.

[–]PRO_NWOdontkillmebro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I predict they gonna have a major DLC for 29.99 as their next announcement.

[–]StaticXNation 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like they actually updated the game after a long while of not updating it. As seen here, but no patch notes :(
You can view this on this page.

[–]premo360 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow I actually cannot see how ANYONE could still be playing this game. It was really neat for the first 15-20 hrs. Then it because a very expensive time suck.

[–]Ramaloke 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yet, some of my most downvoted opinions are exactly the same as the opinions getting upvoted in this thread. I called this shit days after launch.

[–]Dont_touch_my_coffee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's in a jacuzzi with his legal team smoking Cuban cigars and drinking cocktails.

"Thanks for the mad cash you cock suckers, sue me!"

[–]Ibeadoctor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Entitled? They told me they'd give me a thing for 60$ and gave me an entirely different thing

[–]Kittani77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The game went gold... silence is golden....

[–]NyteStarNyne 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sean: I'm sorry? What?? Sorry, I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER ALL THIS MONEY. CAN SOMEONE TURN DOWN THE MONEY JUST A BIT???

[–]scheisty 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Considering Sony just threw them under the bus, it's a sad time to be Hello Games.

[–]Canable42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fact that they (sean) were so vocal before release but haven't said a word since, is what upsets me

[–]essbeck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im happy that I never took part in the hype around the game before the launch because that left me with no expectations or promises. I can think that the price of the game was abit high but at the same time when it was launched I wanted to test some new game and Im still happy I bought the game.

I can see that this idea is developable in som many directions but I dont think Hello games will be the ones that take that step but other delevelopers can get ideas on how to make this so much better and so much interesting.

[–]Nicodemus_The_Rat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It isn't entitled at all, it is basic customer relationship management. Business 101 stuff. If Sean won't won't answer customer concerns then never, ever buy anything that he touches again. That is my plan anyway.

[–]praystationfoh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's probably stuck in a bottle

[–]Down4whiteTrash 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This post does not come across as entitled. You spent $60 for a game that was half built. Crashing, glitching, bugs, and radio silence are not how you treat customers who have been very patient with you. I'm sorry, but Sean Murray owes us at least some insight as to where this game is going. Especially for the very few who have stuck by this game through the bad press and reviews.

[–]NeHoMaR 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I seriously expected an official blog post about future content updates, dlc or something like that, but never happens.

[–]HereForTheJedi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get what you're saying, but this makes the Pokemon Go release and subsequent problems look like a perfect launch for a game. Hello Games just straight up lied and released an unfinished product. I'd have rather had two years delay and a complete game than this. I feel like I wasted $60.

[–]BransonOnTheInternet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hello Games is doing everything they can to make this game, and their future, be remembered as a failure. Sure, it sold well enough, but that means jack shit if no one comes back to play it and your reputation is forever tarnished. Let this be a lesson to a y future game devs of how NOT to handle a launch.

[–]Mestyy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wanted to like it. After a few weeks I sold it to Gamestop literally for $5. The game just fucking blows.

[–]sgtkiwii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This happened where Destiny left is hanging for at least a good month (which was ridiculous given the time and circumstance). But leaving your gaming community in the dark is the absolute worst thing you can do

[–]Meteor3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sony boss is very mad too. Sean needs to Speak Up!!!!!

[–]nomanspicard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't you know anything negative towards HG or Sean makes you entitled? Lol those fanboys crack me up.

Hey people upset with this legit complaint because they want to enjoy the game: don't click on the obvious complaint thread and enjoy your life.

[–]noso2143 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

id rather they not waste time with a community that half stupid and rather they work on the game

[–]ActuallyIsJadeOwen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm with you. I'm not touching the game til it's fixed. Idc how long it takes. Too bad I played over two hours lmao.

[–]JimmySnuff 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I reakon they're probably just taking a well earned break.

[–]Morkuu 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they just stopped updating, and moved on to their next game/project.