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[–]Godz_BaneUSA 101ポイント102ポイント  (33子コメント)

Don't forget he was a socialist

[–]whatdoesthedatasayMA 50ポイント51ポイント  (26子コメント)

NAZI = National Socialist Workers Party (in German).

Nazis were different from the bolsheviks in Russia because they didn't nationalize whole industries, but permitted continued private ownership. It was through regulation and ruthless culling of those who wouldn't obey the Third Reich that they effectively controlled the private sector and directed production.

Guess how progressives in this country are approaching government control of the private sector?

If it wasn't for the insanely detail-oriented and number-driven German national character, it wouldn't have worked as well as it did for as long as it did, by the way. And it didn't end up working - they lost the war.

[–]globalism_suxTX 21ポイント22ポイント  (18子コメント)

To be fair, invading USSR was pretty much the dumbest thing they could have possibly decided to do.

[–]nrrfesvrdgNZL 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Second only to attacking Pepe

[–]whatdoesthedatasayMA 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

100%, but that is baked into the cake of socialism: they actually begin to believe that reality must respond to them, not the other way around. It's why it never works, and freedom always prevails - although I don't say that to gloss over the hundreds of millions who have died due to socialism. I say it to remind you that we're going to win, so that you don't ever feel down, or waver, or give the socialists an inch.

Evil cannot rule because it's evil. If Hitler had slow-played the Russians he may have been able to conquer Britain, or at least negotiate a peace with the Third Reich controlling continental Europe - but he wasn't a competent ruler, he was an insane, cruel, twisted, evil despot, and he decided he wanted to stick a knife in everything that didn't have a swastika slapped on it.

We can all see what Hillary should have been doing during this whole campaign. But she can't, because she is innately evil, honorless, corrupt, and vindictive. She's doomed.

But that doesn't mean we're going to sit around and wait for someone else to lead the charge.

[–]CTR_Shill_For_Hill 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Honestly he could've defeated the soviets if he would have focused on Moscow instead of attacking Leningrad and Kiev first, Moscow was the heart of the USSR, if it fell the Red Army would have collapsed.

[–]VonIssendorffJPN 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Napoleon took Moscow; he lost the Russian campaign.

While most smaller European countries has the "not giving up an inch of ground" mentality, the Russian could afford to sacrifice Eastern Europe size land to the enemy if it would lead them to victory.

Their infrastructures beyond the Ural were growing, they could go on even without Moscow.

[–]CleverNameAndNumbersCAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Soviets have shown they could easily relocate industry further and further towards Siberia. The fall of Moscow would have been a blow to moral but I doubt it would have enough tactical significance to prevent a Russian counterattack. It would have just dragged on the war and added casualties.

[–]benandorf 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

They didn't really have much choice. Stalin wasn't going to play nice forever, and they absolutely needed the resources and money from invading the USSR to keep fighting against the UK, or even to stabilize their economy in a hypothetical post-war scenario.

[–]globalism_suxTX 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Stalin wasn't going to play nice forever

Is there historical evidence of this? All I am aware of is that they were entered into a non-aggression pact and Hitler violated it, presumably by complete surprise, as evidenced by the unpreparedness of the Soviets during Barbarossa.

Is there evidence that Stalin was preparing for something that I'm not aware of?

[–]NuclearJihad 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

If the constantly attacking of all their neighbors during their short history isn't enough, former Soviet intelligence officer who defected to UK named Vladimir Rezun has written extensively about the subject. And don't forget, WW2 started when USSR and Nazis attacked Poland together. You can be damn sure if Hitler wouldn't have attacked, Stalin would've.

[–]globalism_suxTX 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, the assault on Poland doesn't make me "damn sure" that Stalin was gearing up to single-handedly take down the Reich. I'm sure Stalin was preparing for combat as he saw Hitler rolling through Europe, but I'm skeptical that Barbarossa was SPECIFICALLY preemptive.

[–]NuclearJihad 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I didn't say Barbarossa was specifically preemptive, but as Stalin was guaranteed to steamroll over half of Europe (as he did), I guess it sorta was. Intentionally or not.

[–]benandorf 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, he more than tripled the size of the army between 39 and 41, while doing his damnedest to keep the growth secret, and also drafted an additional 18 million reservists in 39, who would have been released had peace been maintained past September 1, 1941. No evidence I know of that supports a specific attack plan, but there was definitely a huge growth in the army and preparations for war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy?wprov=sfla1

[–]globalism_suxTX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, I don't doubt that in the least. I don't even doubt that Stalin would have wanted to confront Hitler, had it not gone the other way. I am skeptical that Hitler's Barbarossa was specifically preemptive.

[–]glorious_kebabCAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ha! Never get involved with a land war in Asia!

[–]dmbout 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

That attack was (edit: maybe) a pre-emptive one. USSR was going to turn on them when they were ready. They were also severely delayed, having to help Mussolini's failed campaign in Greece on the way. Attacking before the Soviet military machine was oiled up and ready could even be argued to have been pretty damn smart.

In any case, the Nazis had a real chance of winning and were perhaps even favorites. The longer they waited, however, the less of a chance they would have had.

[–]globalism_suxTX 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Got a source on that?

[–]dmbout 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know. I've studied WW2 and Hitler since I traveled to Normandie as a young teenager.

Wiki has this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy

[–]ObsoleteProtocol 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

National Socialism isn't quite Socialism.

Socialism is where you fight a class struggle within your country. National Socialism is where you fight a class struggle with other countries.

It's half Nationalist, half Socialist, so it's not really either.

That's why the Nazi party was the National Socialist German Workers Party.

[–]whatdoesthedatasayMA 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll accept this disingenuous argument as soon as the left begins to respect the difference between free market capitalism and government-regulated corporatism.

Socialism is where you fight a class struggle within your country. National Socialism is where you fight a class struggle with other countries.

Socialism is where there is no private property and the government provides its citizens with all of their basic necessities. There's no real currency because everything is rationed: there are no real rights because the government decides what you get to have.

National Socialism is where you do all of that and instead of pitting you against your own nation's government, socialist leaders pit you against your own "insufficiently patriotic" countrymen.

[–]ObsoleteProtocol 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Socialism is such a bad fucking idea. We see how well companies perform when there is no competition forcing them to improve. When we look at it on a national scale with socialism, you get venezuela.

Socialisn is 90s Comcast.

[–]NuclearJihad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Socialism is where you fight a class struggle within your country. National Socialism is where you fight a class struggle with other countries.

This is incorrect, Nazis just identified the inner enemy differently, for them it was the racial parasite, for the socialists it was the parasite class of the rich. But much like the communists, they also identified international capitalism as their enemy.

[–]Naram-SinUK 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Indeed the SA (Brown shirts) were the party's original soldiers and were his socialist wing. (later purged by the SS to dissociate the party with its socialist origins).

[–]Collector000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In no way does 'worker' fit into the current liberal agenda.

[–]Frogfacedduck 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Only that he was a national socialist in contrast to today's globalists.

But still it's funny taking a speech by any modern leftist and replacing the phrases 'the rich', 'the 1%', 'wall street' with 'jew', 'kike' and 'the international finance jewery' and vice versa. The ideas never really changed, just the labels.

The modern leftists would love his 25-point programme:

  • Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.

  • We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

  • We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

  • We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

  • We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

  • We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

  • We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.

  • The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

  • The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

[–]UhOhPoopedItTX 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

TRIGGERED

My blue hair, morbid obesity, cat eye glasses, temporary PTSD, PCOS, and fibromyalgia prevent me from leaving my government provided hoveround, ableist shitlord.

[–]tiduxWA 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's a subreddit for that. /r/menkampf

[–]Frogfacedduck 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit already did it?!

I love this site.

[–]glorious_kebabCAN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Say what you will about National Socialism, at least it was an ethos."

[–]fuckitoutthewindowENG 33ポイント34ポイント  (4子コメント)

I wonder how the SJWs will react to this?

[–]Bowlffalo_Soulja 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Down vote it without saying anything.

[–]fuckitoutthewindowENG 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah this happened to me on /r/politics. My comments were so downvoted that I editted them to be pro Clinton. Then I got a permanemt ban for trolling.

[–]arcxa 26ポイント27ポイント  (6子コメント)

Fact check: It's true.

[–]TrumpsPersonalCuckTX 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON

EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN

DID YOU DO THAT ON THE FLY?

[–]ShitpostersParadiseUSA 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's twue. Oh it's twue, it's twue.

[–]hailgengarkhanUSA 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hold up, you be sayin we wuz Fuhrers an shit?

[–]TheManWithSomeNamesWA 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah op is just an uncle adolf

[–]feeltheB3RNforTRUMPNY 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first social justice warrior.

[–]JustDoinThingsNY 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Today I will once more be a prophet: if the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war

Doesn't the Left hate the bankers?

Who are these egoists? Each one of them merely defends the interests of his class. Behind them all stands either the Jew or their own moneybags.

And the 1%?

German workers are the most reliable supporters of the Hitler regime. Nazism has won them over completely by eliminating unemployment and by reducing the entrepreneurs to the status of shop managers

Huh Hitler got rid of private property and brought down those filthy capitalists.

[–]realist79 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit, you just broke the code!

[–]ScottBluesITL 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

HE WAS A WHITE MAIL

[–]realist79 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

National Socialist German Workers Party.

[–]Hillary_For_PrisonUSA 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Put your thread title on that phito, add the word "socialist" and drop that on one of the lib boards. The fireworks should be pretty.

[–]FullAmpleSallyNC 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Adolph Von Cuckington

[–]KRosen333 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

woah. i didnt even put those two together before. jesus christ.

[–]whatdoesthedatasayMA 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the greatest shitpost of all time.

[–]-redditardation- 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Savage.

Using their own 'super-insult' against the leftists.

[–]SneakyPeaky9955DEU 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my god. I am German and now when I think about it, you are 100%.... mind blown

[–]nekoexmachinaEU 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

actually that is brilliant.

[–]T-Earl-Grey-HotNLD 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh nein, you didn't!

[–]GueroLoco420 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was a vegetarian, helped conceive the VW Beetle and an environmentalist too. Hippie confirmed.

[–]cageybee3003NY 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Versailles treaty was impossible bullshit debt slavery.

[–]Triggered_OutburstsCA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

According to SJW logic, we should be tolerant and kill them all.I'm not advocating killing anyone.

[–]Mark_Corrigan_AMAUK 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Can someone explain this to me :(

[–]PostShitGetHitDEU 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hitler was an artist and had a burning hatred for the privileged jews.

[–]Mark_Corrigan_AMAUK 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I get that, but who's it trying to compare him to? Hillary?

[–]whatdoesthedatasayMA 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hitler was a failed painter with delusions of grandeur who went into politics when he couldn't make a living as an artist (I have no information on his ability to make a cappuccino or latte). He promised to raise the oppressed German people up to greatness by making the Jews pay their fair share and had his Brownshirts enforce his rise through intimidation and violence. He also took complete control of German media to dictate what people thought and their exposure to information. He was a socialist: NAZI stands for "National Socialist German Workers Party."

[–]TrumpStannis2016USA 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cuckler was a failed sociologist with delusions of grandeur who went into politics when xe couldn't make a living on Patreon (I have no information on xir ability to make a cappuccino or latte). Xe promised to raise the oppressed PoC people up to greatness by making the white cishet men pay their fair share and had xir Antifa enforce xir rise through intimidation and violence. Xe also took complete control of cable media to dictate what people thought and their exposure to information. Xe was a socialist: SJW stands for "Social Justice Warrior."

Scary.

[–]_USA-USA_USA-USA_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I question the intent of people who compare Hillary to Hitler over Stalin.

[–]ChazzenNV 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

He's Austrian, ofc he's comparing the two.

[–]_USA-USA_USA-USA_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

why not compare her to someone of the same idology and has killed 3-6 times as many people?

[–]ChazzenNV 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

>taking what I said seriously

Anyways, either one works. Hitler is just turning the narrative about Trump on its' head.

[–]_USA-USA_USA-USA_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It would also help spread the coverd up atrocities of Stalin.

[–]NuclearJihad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because we fought Hitler while we helped Stalin, so comparing bad things to Hitler has always been more natural to us. You can argue Stalin killed more and could continue killing more due to him winning and is thus "worse", but what's done is done.

[–]stickbugzCA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

/pol/'s greatest hits

[–]G19Gen3 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's the thing.

That's actually true. That's what he was doing. SJWs and liberals in general are so far off the road they're turning in to nazis but with conservatives instead of Jews.

[–]MeatTrombone 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Say what you want about him. He knew to employ as much of germany as he could before he imported immigrants for work.

[–]ShalomRPhNJ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought that Moustache Man failed fine arts, not liberal arts.

[–]echomediaecho 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who were the leaders of the communists in the German Civil War?

[–]Root176400AZ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol, and faggot cucks will tell you he's not a socialist.

[–]Alwaysstimulating 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not sure if equality is quite the right word hahahaha

[–]Bireme713 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's sad to see all my fellow nimble navigators who still believe this false narrative that has been pounded into their heads through their lives. Dig deeper folks!

[–]Buttsex_and_Skittlez 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

MSM is casting a negative caricature of Donald. What the MSM is doing to trump is no different than what Hitler did to the Jews. Germany may have lost ww2 but facism and globalism won and who's carrying the torch of facism under the guise of PC? That's right the establishment instead of fighting wars with conventional armies trying to take over the world through the NWO. Think about it Hitler wanted the world and globalist do too and SJW liberal pussies have their heads to far up their own assess to even see the real enemy to humanity.

Good thing about this is if Hillary wins I'll get to meet a lot of you in concentration camps umm hmm excuse me I mean FEMA camps.