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Half Time Discussion (self.reddevils)

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Holy shit

Rojo is shit

We are sitting back waaaaaay too much and I dont like it at all. Also fuck Dutch teams

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[–]Desension 74ポイント75ポイント  (4子コメント)

For a team that spent the last 2 seasons passing the ball around, we sure are shit at passing

[–]scholeszzMkhitaryan 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Terrible game so far from the front 5, no one seems to be able to find a pass.

[–]tkwouterMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's because 4 of the front 5 are being asked to sit back.

[–]YoungPappy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We were good when there was absolutely no pressure. When teams started to press us we fell apart.

[–]FootballRobbChicharito[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Theres really no one to connect the midfield-attack.

[–]alee1994 53ポイント54ポイント  (4子コメント)

How do Feynoord only have one yellow?

[–]MovementJRPogba 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a mystery. But this is what they want. They are disrupting the flow of the game with "soft" fouls and are slowing it down to a pace which befits their style of play. We're frustrated as a result of it. Rashford is isolated. The ball is being played through the middle constantly instead of the wide areas. Pogba runs forward and is blocked off. Just a shambles really.

[–]xjeroenRuud 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I expected this to happen, a lot of disruptive fouls is one way to deal with a team that has far superiour talent.

[–]sylheti27Schneiderlin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think they will accumulate more in the second half if this keeps going on. Credit to the ref for calling a good game so far, even though the crowd disagrees

[–]DeGeaTakeABowMkhitaryan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There basically pre Hughes stoke

[–]Zalenkroos 49ポイント50ポイント  (2子コメント)

-----------De Gea----------------
Darmian Bailly Smalling Rojo
-----Herrera Schneiderlin----
Mata------Pogba-------Martial
--------------.-----------------
--------------.-----------------
--------------.-----------------
--------------.-----------------
--------------.-----------------
-----------Rashford-----------

[–]ColdisnotwarmGiggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think Pogba was more in the back than that, lets hope it changes for second half

[–]GolDeScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, exactly.

[–]Grantalope40Beckham 47ポイント48ポイント  (4子コメント)

Don't think Rojo is good enough to be a Manchester United player

[–]WHiTeCHIICK 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's no thought needed. He's shit

[–]ManUChao7PogBack!!! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We need some loan watch for Bojack at Wolves.

[–]rendrolikIbra Time 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still can't believe he's still around. At this point I'd take blind or even ashley young over him. Thanks lvg

[–]_thedarkknight 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, baring now and then he has been wank.

[–]swaggy97Martial 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too defensive

[–]darkcoolster 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rashford is so isolated

[–]Savage9645Pogba 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's the benefit of having Rooney in the squad imo

[–]darkcoolster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tactics too. Mata is congesting the midfield, if he's gonna drift in so much why not just play him in the middle and have a right winger. Darmian's refusal to push up hurts as well

[–]MohbaMemphis 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

Herrera, has been our best player, we need to add more in attack.

[–]starks_are_comingMemphis 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Him and Darmian

[–]ZzsskJosé Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Darmian is really good this first half methinks, with the right side so open because Mata's everywhere but there, he's doing pretty well covering that side.

[–]eldortzoGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's played pretty well for what he's been asked to do, suffering from the same problem as the rest of the team in that he's staying too far back.

[–]GolDeScholes 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

I rushed home for this?

[–]W0rsleyRafael 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand why we are constantly smacking the ball up the pitch, Rashford is great with his feet but has never even shown his ability in the air, and even if he was able to win the header both wingers and all 3 midfielder are no where near him.

Oh and Rojo has been shite.

[–]AMAaboutAMemphis 25ポイント26ポイント  (13子コメント)

I heavily dislike Mata having a free role from the rw. No width whatsoever and he's continually occupying space pogba looks to be running in.

[–]clumsy__runnerRooney 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not just that, it means we only have a full back attacking on the right wing. With Valencia that's fine. Darmian can't go past players and invariably ends up passing the ball backwards.

[–]red-17 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

At least when we have Valencia at rb he can consistently keep the width on the right, but that's not really Darmian's strength.

[–]doesnt_like_pantsJose Mourinho 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Same with Martial. We're playing so narrow it's painful.

[–]darkcoolster 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Martial has been receiving the ball very close to the end of the pitch already, and it's because there's no one on the right to stretch the play

[–]AMAaboutAMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Him wanting to cut in surely doesn't help. We need someone disciplined on the right side (Rashford /young) and put martial or ibra up top. You can't attack when cluttering up the middle of the park, surely Mou must have noticed..

[–]sylheti27Schneiderlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He just gets outmuscled and pushed back way too easily. needs to be up forward more helping Rashford

[–]Buck-wild_7uckstyle 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

And for all that, he doesn't create anything. Most games he passes the ball sideways and is ineffectual.

[–]RogerFedererFTWValdes(and Falcao) 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Mata is just a poor man's Silva.

[–]Buck-wild_7uckstyle 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, he just stays in the middle, can't shield the ball, move up the pitch with the ball. Just sideways passes. Been the case for years. Painful to watch.

[–]RogerFedererFTWValdes(and Falcao) -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

He is as average as a player can get while looking half decent. I mean, sometimes he produces something good but he isn't consistent. Also cant do shit with physical sides. For me he should go to a mid table spanish team, i think he will flourish there

[–]Buck-wild_7uckstyle 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

He barely gets criticized in the media. He is too intelligent apparently, I haven't seen any clever passes from him for a long time, like you said, he's a middle table Spanish player now. Really irks me when people say he's too good a player. Can't wait for Mkhi to get fit and get the spot on the wing.

[–]luigi9851 19ポイント20ポイント  (7子コメント)

Bring on Memphis

[–]tkwouterMemphis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

To support Rashford up front. But clearly that would require us to not play with a 10 man bus.

[–]a_bright_oneC. Ronaldo 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think Herrera has been really good and Martial has improved. There just seems to be no plan when we have the ball in their half. I also think our full backs have to step up offensively

[–]ijd17Uncle Ant 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mata seems to be coming in waayyy too much leaving Darmian isolated when he looks to make a ball down the line

[–]first_aid 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

has always been the case with mata as rw. the rb is asked to do a lot in attack

[–]ScotsmaniaHorny 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Always the same when he plays, we play with no RW relying on Valencia/Darmian/whoever to fill the hole.

[–]targeryianJones 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why aren't we pressing... Just look so bad.

[–]chutzpahisawordValencia 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we are playing it safe. I guess Jose doesn't want the players to waste their energy with the pressing since we have a game at the weekend. Or maybe I am in denial. I don't know man.

[–]scholeszzMkhitaryan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're playing a weird half press where only Rashford and the furthest of the midfield press; the defense, Schneiderlin and the wingers stay deep. It's to stop them from playing through the middle I guess, but it's not working very well.

[–]TheReplacerMkhitaryan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We don't have the players to press :(

[–]PigPenBluesRooney 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

Fuck Rooney looks terrible out there. He is constantly misplacing passes, playing passes back to the defensive line, and overall being the root of our problems in attack.

[–]RicciRox 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

We should ship him off to China. Not a legend. Useless.

[–]PigPenBluesRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mata looks useless on the right side, Rashford is extremely isolated, and Pogba is dribbling too much.

[–]noob_senpai 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think he was pretty much invisible so far and I can't see him changing that in the second half either.

[–]PigPenBluesRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Highly unlikely. Almost as if he didn't fly with the team at all.

[–]arawal 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feyenoord half full still a better atmosphere than City.

[–]samj101Evra 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rojo seems to be permanently out of position

[–]NostrabrahmusMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some say he was born out of position.

[–]MUFColinScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Must've been a c-section

[–]DesiBecksGolden Balls 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really impressed by Schneiderlin's defensive duties. Aside from that, immensely underwhelming

[–]YoungPappy 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

We're being completly pushed back by a Dutch team, what's going on? How is Rojo still here? He's a special kind of shit.

[–]tkwouterMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

We're not being pushed back, we're sitting back. It's a mou team, away game, cup competition...

[–]MovementJRPogba 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Surely Memphis deserves an opportunity. We need to change something. We aren't making a big enough impact from the wide areas. Very static.

[–]AstJr 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Poor performance.

[–]RogerFedererFTWValdes(and Falcao) 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Imo we need Fellaini's physical presence.

[–]flowtschi 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

I dont know how Rojo can be a Regular for Argentina.

Very Van Gaalesque what we are doing there

Something needs to change or this is going to be a 0:0 or we'll concede an unlucky Goal.

[–]clumsy__runnerRooney 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apart from being shit this isn't anything like Van Gaal lol.

[–]BanterWithTheLadsYeJanuzaj 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

They have no other decent left backs

[–]tkwouterMemphis -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Clearly you don't watch football if you think this is like LVG.

[–]flowtschi -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

ye from time to time i just visit random subreddits and post stuff i know nothing about.

but you caught me sherlock. damn you! damn you and your pipe!

[–]DatGuyRichValencia 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

This game seems reminiscent of an LVG performance.

[–]WHiTeCHIICK 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

How? We can hardly keep the ball and lose possessions quickly. I'd say it's the exact opposite

[–]neshyneshKagawa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We had those too..

[–]Momoalas93Pogba 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The boring-ness of it I guess and being shit aswell

[–]tkwouterMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No it doesn't. When during LVG did you see a 10 man bus? We may have been boring, but at least we dictated the tempo of the game.

[–]Kid_Parkinsonvan Persie 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Remember, this team has very few minutes and haven't played together much... Also feyenoord arnt a shit team they've won all their games! It's not an easy out there...

[–]xjeroenRuud -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah Feyenoord won all their games in the Dutch league, they could still be seen as below Premier League level..

[–]KirraniumManchester United 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good too see that Rojo has continued his form from last season.

[–]svtomHerrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba part of a mid 3 and still disappearing, herrera and darmian have been good. We're just far to slow, always back passing, never driving forward looking to create.

[–]slezdieselBailly 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rojo looks terrible, hasn't done a thing well that I saw. Rashford wants to try things, but is just so isolated in this system (at least with these players)

[–]OriArRooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rashford proving that he still has fuckloads to improve before he becomes as good as Zlatan.

Let's hope that the players will get better un the second half.

[–]KillerKipperBad Man Marouane 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Schneiderlin Herrera and Darmian doing their causes no harm thus far. Really flat everywhere else though, especially Pogba.

[–]youfocusmelotus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba's been completely anonymous

[–]Cody_2 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Ibra in for mata? What substitutions do you guys think will help?

[–]FootballRobbChicharito[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Memphis, Fellaini, Ibra

[–]darkcoolster 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wanted to say Memphis but there seems to be a gap between our midfield and attackers, don't know if there's anyone on the bench to solve the problem

[–]AxelnitePogba 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Memphis for Martial

[–]_gastlyFalcao 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba is sitting back too much not truly playing the 10. In my opinion, we should bring on Ibra, push rash to the wing, and push mata to 10. One of Herrera, Schneiderlin, or Pogba come off. Hopefully it'll be Pogba to keep him fresh for the weekend.

[–]clumsy__runnerRooney -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mata is fine, I'd do anything do get Rojo off the pitch. Fosu-Mesah for him?

[–]androidenthusiast08He's only been on loan... 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

need to save him for bailly

[–]MrFlaminBrownieAdnan Januzaj 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The players need to pull the thumb out of their arses and starting closing down.

[–]neerajgroverDarmian 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guys, this is the first time we are playing this lineup this season, lets not oveereact?

[–]pratiktRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

have a feeling mou didn't even coach them for this game. all over the place ffs.

[–]ohahcantona 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

not the best half but it isnt too surprising tbh, we are playing a lot of players that havent had the minutes to allow them to be prepared for such a cagey match. give it time boys.

[–]fash5-fc 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently a midfield 3 of morgan,herrera and pogba isn't as much of a good idea as we thought it would be,hopefully they are just having a bad day..

[–]sonnawabitSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fair play to Feyenoord, they have a game plan and so far it's working really well. Rashford and Martial getting surrounded immediately once they have the ball. Pogba needs to step it up and show his ability, he's our worst midfield player so far. Darmian and especially Rojo getting destroyed

There's definitely a difference in match fitness between the two sides, we keep misplacing passes and getting out of position. Hopefully Mourinho can sort this out during the break.

[–]StGrievous 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba has no space to play in though. Martial constantly cutting in and Mata drifting over from RW. Leaves the left half-space waaay to congested.

[–]CircleToShoot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rojo isn't the issue here. We have a midfield of absentees; whenever the defense has the ball, there's no one to collect it and get an attack going. That's a job for Morgan or Pogba as far as I'm concerned. We're not playing counter-attacking, we're playing a possession game.

Darmian and Smalling have been good though, despite their lack of game time.

[–]wetslipper 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

No van gaal, no Rooney.. Who we gonna blame this shit show on?

[–]Kiddcohen39Bailly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yucky half.

[–]DANNYWELBECK12345 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Valencia and Shaw are crucial to us. Very poor width out there

[–]Torts_IllustratedShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What makes it worse is that we have inverted wingers playing too.

[–]clumsy__runnerRooney -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this is the biggest thing slowing us down. Rojo is shit. Darmian can't go past a man.

[–]JakeovicMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Memphis to be subbed in and score a hat trick

[–]undertrip 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

god i miss my boy Ashley, hopefully he comes on as lb/lw

[–]jcamilo70 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope everything changes in the second half, cause so far this game could fit perfectly with some of the infamous classics in the Moyes or Van Gaal era.

[–]AnIrrationalSkepticHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

We are slow at starting games . Against Bournemouth, Southampton, Hull, and City we didn't really get going until the second half. I don't know if that's only been a matter of circumstance in each game, but I hope that trend continues today.

[–]ColdisnotwarmGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, for this game. But we really need to get a good start. If we get behind early, its hard to comeback.

[–]nikolai426José 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Feyenoord have been putting in rash challenges, sloppy from us in the first half, only positives I can see is Herrera and Bailly's awareness and composure.

[–]KLZicktor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the contrary, I think they have been putting in very clever fouls, the kind the referee doesn't yellow card but does well to disrupt our momentum and frustrate our players.

[–]first_aid 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

no deep lying playmaker and no one wants to make a run. front 3 all want the ball at their feet and to dribble

[–]MattSR30He's big, he's brave, he's Spanish Dave! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Four 'wide' players (Rojo, Darmian, Martial and Mata), and only one looks to have any pace when attacking. Not good.

[–]rinorsusuri 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We need a good RW

[–]165cmShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rather dreadful first half. Memphis deserves a chance, would like to see him come on in the second half.

[–]r3d4dam 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are they yelling puta at De gea?

[–]manunited9Jose Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you seriously see the drop off in offensive distribution from Rojo, it's simply not good enough against a team that's forcing to the wings and clogging the middle. Also I think Ander is playing too conservative along with most of the squad, would like them to really force the ball to Pogba in order to open them up.

[–]nederlandic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feyenoord playing dirty, ref's a bellend, our defense has been a bit naff, bottled a few good chances, but not as disastrous as some people are making out.

[–]cadallimore 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Should be more yellows for them.

Darmian, Rojo and Schneiderlin having absolute shockers. Fullbacks too slow/shit; Schneiderlin not getting any of the ball which we need to push Pogba/Herrera further forward.

Think Herrera has been great and Martial bright.

[–]FrenchMancPogba 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Martial & Rashford are great on the ball today even tho they don't get lots of them.

[–]MUFColinScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Schneiderlin is ace

[–]legaleaglebitchSir Alex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've had more enjoyable near death experiences than that first half

[–]footballsangDe Gea -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Need ibrahimovich

[–]Apollo76 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Slow start with minimal aggression. Rojo still doesn't look great, nobody really wants to make an attack. Pretty much sums it up

[–]youfocusmelotus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rashford spilled a very good chance to create something late on there, still needs to learn how to sort his feet out. Same for Martial.

Smalling needs to step up a bit in defence, haven't seen him win too many headers.

[–]DeGeaTakeABowMkhitaryan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bailly is a fucking murderer as usual, rashford is isolated, darms is good,poggers is alright, mata still stuck in lvg's system and herera and martial have been good and feyernord need to get some cards

[–]KLZicktor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both of our wingers are cutting inside too much, leaving the central areas far too crowded and no width in the team at all. Not to mention Rojo has been abysmal. Maybe Memphis in for Mata would make a difference? Granted he likes to cut in too but at least he can beat a player and shoot. Really need someone to step up and take the game by the scruff of the neck.

[–]Junkrg 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't understand the Darmian hate here. He got beat on that one play where the winger cut back but has been solid defensively otherwise and has produced two near chances with his crosses. Rojo, Pogba and Mata are in fact the ones having shockers. Nothing to rave about the defensive strategy as well

[–]doctorpwnRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rooney is fucking invisble out there

[–]BUfels 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Playing with sandwiches instead of fullbacks means you have no width and can't really penetrate.

[–]ParkerZAYoung 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can you guys cool it with the Rojo shitting?

[–]maaahirScholes -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Blind is super important, this game shows it.

Bailly and Smalling are too similar, one needs to play only.

Memphis please come on soon.

[–]TheJoshider10De Gea -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

Pretty fucking boring really. Rojo and Darmian are really making a case for why they should stay on the bench.

[–]_gastlyFalcao 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

A bit harsh on Darmian imo, Rojo has been shocking though

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

I thought Darmian had been our best player

[–]youfocusmelotus 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's been great

[–]McGrifty -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What game are you watching

[–]KLZicktor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought Herrera was our best player by far. Darmian has put in a couple of good crosses but he hasn't been giving us the width like Valencia does. Nor does he have the ability or blistering pace to beat a man. Rojo has been abysmal. I cannot stand to even see him on the pitch.

[–]ZzsskJosé Mourinho -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't get Mata's position really.... He's too... all over the place? Leaving a big hole on the right side.

[–]tkwouterMemphis -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is what a Mourinho team with a market value of 500 million pounds looks like against a team with a market value of 50 million.

[–]AnjumiRonaldo -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't talk shit please. The game isn't finished and a team of 500 million pounds which some have to adjust their playing style they have become accustomed to under van gaal and others have just been bought, is obviously gonna take a bit of time. As long as we get the result is what matters. The team will gel in time. Don't put mourinho's name in this.

[–]saintratchetMartial -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Kick-off was six! Fuck

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You've missed nothing. Don't worry