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DiscussionAnyone remember the "advanced police AI" Rockstar mentioned pre-release? (self.GrandTheftAutoV)

Dollarstoretiger が 投稿

They said the cops were way more intelligent. Showed team work. You could see them communicating and using hand signals, etc.

But the cops in my copy just show up and start shooting wildly, usually causing shocking amounts of collateral damage with no clear pattern. Bump into a cop car? Shot to death with a one star wanted level.

That is my biggest disappointment with 5, the cops seem to be LESS intelligent than ever before.

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[–]GrahamOfThal 75ポイント76ポイント  (17子コメント)

They drag the wounded to cover tho... What is mostly bugging me is the lack of stealth with them

[–]dotPanic 15ポイント16ポイント  (12子コメント)

Meanwhile 50 other previous features to GTA games went unnoticed

All these 'cool small things' don't help jack when they remove major ones. Melee on bikes? Hello?

[–]1stDegreeYellowBelt 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

Not trying to be condescending, but have you ever tried to hit someone on a bike? A LOT easier said than done.

Edit: when I say "bike" I mean motorcycle, not bicycle.

[–]SlimJim84 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

Road Rash did it 25 years ago. Road Redemption does it now.

Can't really see why Rockstar, as giant as they are, couldn't implement it.

[–]ParsInterarticularis 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

Too busy making shark cards

[–]chinpokomon 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Oh please. I'm sure they've got interns doing that work -- pouring the plastic into the molds, embossing the numbers and painting them. If they were smart though, they'd just partner with a local bank and just have the bank print the cards for them. Wells Fargo seems good at setting up accounts like this.

[–]chubawub -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

0 to meta real quick

[–]argusrombleiTrevor 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I feel like a road rash bike update is just around the corner. Seems obvious but you sorta destroy the main gang in the beginning of the game.

[–]gnorty 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

you mean when Trevor kills the bikers? story mode is set a few years after online, so the bikers are still alive in "online" time.

If you mean that any biker update will apply to story mode - well, if it does, it would be simple enough to introduce a new gang moving in to fill the gap, if story mode is affected at all.

[–]DangerZ0neXMichael 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

GTA Online takes place 6 months before GTA V.

[–]Dollarstoretiger[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

Really? I haven't seen that, sounds awesome. Gta 5 is still one of my all time favorite games.

[–]slumo 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

Only in singelplayer. They are pretty intelligent, but only when in singelplayer.

[–]umar4812FALSE PERMABANNED | SC:umar48 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What do you mean? That would be hell to sync all those little details between players.

[–]jyssys 35ポイント36ポイント  (4子コメント)

They are different from single player to Online, though. In singleplayer, they can be quite intelligent. In Online, they're just vicious and cheating.

[–]DangerZ0neXMichael 60ポイント61ポイント  (6子コメント)

There is no such thing as a search area or crime scene in this game, instead of having the center of the search situated in the last position the police saw just like in IV, the police are programmed to drive and head to the exact same spot you're in instead.

Example being is that you blew up a couple of cars and got a wanted level and there's still no cops around you, you drive north a block and then head three blocks to the right and hide behind a dumpster in a dark alley, instead of driving towards the crime scene the police cruisers would instead drive to the exact same area where you are and go to the exact same dumpster you're hiding behind out of the other five, they don't even look around and search, they literally jog towards your exact position.

Same goes if you commit a crime in Paleto Bay and teleport via mod menu to Vespucci or La Puerta, cops will spawn around you instead of inside the search area, it's a programming issue you'd expect out of a first-time indie developer.

[–]TheAdmiester 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

Or you kill a guy in a dark alleyway totally silently, somehow the cops already know this, so you run away to the canal to hide and there just happens to be a cop car patrolling right next to the water. ?!?!

[–]_arcyn 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM

[–]chinpokomon 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not a programming issue, it isn't like it's a bug. It is a game design issue.

I think it is done that way to increase the challenge and therefore make it a game. It'd otherwise be very easy to evade the cops. It's not meant to match reality, it's meant to make it a game you will play.

[–]twisterrk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would play a game with more realistic police tactics and behavior any day.

[–]Beastabuelos8-Ball 35ポイント36ポイント  (5子コメント)

Gta 4 was the pinnacle of their police design. The search area thing was way better than 5s system

[–]TehFetTommy Vercetti 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

And they were fun to play with too. They weren't completely incompetent, but definitely were not this paramilitary force they are in V

[–]MajorNoodles 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was so easy to hide in the subway though. I've escaped many 6-Star wanted levels down there.

[–]austinhannah 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same for GTA V... if you hop on the train you can outrun a 5-star easily.

[–]umar4812FALSE PERMABANNED | SC:umar48 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'd say it isn't really. You're out the search area for a few seconds and you've already lost the police. A bit too easy.

[–]BlueOrange775 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

In some aspects, you are correct. I found this video, which is pretty interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnNXU7iH-5o

[–]dkz224 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Idk I'm gta IV I used to sit in this one spot on the beach and the cops would jump off a cliff and die trying to get to me

[–]a_guy_with_a_plan 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

They aren't intelligent, they just have laser aim, turning they harder to beat.

Dragging the wounded is hardly a sign of great AI. Actually it's relatively simple to program and becomes repetitive.

The spawning of police cars and mainly police helicopters is ridiculously excessive.

[–]Rosssauced 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well the police shooting people for dumb reasons may be the most realistic aspect of the game tbh.

[–]YaboyshaneJohnny Klebitz 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

Cops in gta 4 are far superior. The game it self is better than 5 imo

[–]Donnelly182 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Seriously, how has no one made a mod that uses the intelligence or whatever of IV cops for V?

[–]Whiskey_shakes187 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are tons of mods that "fix" the police. Also mods that add warrant systems and better chases. I use this and it makes it so someone actually has to call police for them to come. If you kill someone on the street and no one sees you, no cops come. If they do see you they take out their phone and start calling police. If you kill all witnesses in time you can get off Scott free. It also changes many other things.

https://www.gta5-mods.com/scripts/better-chases-arrest-warrant

https://www.gta5-mods.com/misc/fine-tuned-felony-response

[–]gnorty -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

wow yea, that would be so easy for some guy to do in his bedroom.

/s

[–]Donnelly182 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bigger mods have been made before...

[–]AmhraF -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean it would be hard to do but people create really complex and in depth mods that take years and literal development teams to make. Is it really a stretch to imagine someone making an ai overhaul?

[–]DyLaNzZpRoLittle Jacob -2ポイント-1ポイント  (9子コメント)

The cops ARE more intelligent, but the way they initiate is fucking moronic to say the least.

IMO, they need to make the police the exact same as GTA4 at one star, and they should TRY to arrest you, not just fucking gun you down instantly, I get the whole 'xDD corrupt cops amirite?!!??!!1!?', but in a game as big as GTA it's stupid.

Some examples of how GTA 5's cop AI is better; borrowing AI cars to chase after you, shooting whilst sitting down after they've been wounded, other cops dragging wounded cops out of battle, I'm sure there's a few things I'm missing.

[–]PCMachinima 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

The cops try to arrest you at one star in story mode, but they don't do that in online.

[–]DyLaNzZpRoLittle Jacob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My mistake, I forgot about that honestly, I've not played SP since I got 100% on the PS3 version. Regardless, it's stupid as hell that in GTA:O they shoot on sight, that's mainly what I was speaking about since the only real time I play SP now is when I load to go into Online, and when I play with mods.

[–]umar4812FALSE PERMABANNED | SC:umar48 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They never did that in GTA4 multiplayer either.

[–]PvTailsClaude 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

But cops do arrest you if have a one star wanted level.

Video

[–]DyLaNzZpRoLittle Jacob -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm talking about 2 stars, and that's only SP. Online, you LITERALLY can't get busted, they attack you on sight even with one star.

[–]PvTailsClaude 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well GTA online and GTA V are separate games. Also it's done for gameplay limitations because you lose all your ammo and you can be also busted from far away due to lag.

[–]DyLaNzZpRoLittle Jacob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, they're considered 2 different entities but they're conjoined, literally speaking they're the same game.

My point is that instead of taking the lazy way out, they could've made it so much better. For instance, player cops that can arrest you.

As far as lag/desync being a factor (assuming they made cops arresting online a thing without altering anything), as long as your internet doesn't randomly shit out it should be fine, AI usually just freezes completely when network shits out, it shouldn't really cause issues.

[–]cyphrr 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

online, i look at the cops as more of an asshole checker.

it keeps the guys who are just looking to cause mayhem and keeps them in check.

i also feel that there's a tongue in cheek, shoot on site, commentary on the LA police force at work here as well.

[–]DyLaNzZpRoLittle Jacob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, not really. Cops are annoying as fuck regardless of if you're being an asshole or killing the asshole.

There's no doubt that's part of it, but it's just.... eh.

[–]ILoveRegenHealth -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gonna have to disagree. In IV, they had psychic powers and the cones never made sense (they detect you even if they aren't pointed at you).

At least in V, I noticed they really leave you alone if you find a good alley or dumpster to hide behind. It's more realistic, and depending on how good you are, you can dodge their cone of vision. The only thing that is annoying is the stars take too long to go away.

[–]YaBoiiMC -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://youtu.be/GWVtZJo-HqI <----watch how much better 4 is than 5

[–]umar4812FALSE PERMABANNED | SC:umar48 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's a great example of cherrypicking.