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Protests break out in Minneapolis over HBO production (mprnews.org)
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[–]MinnesotaLuke 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 22時間前 (2子コメント)
You know what is so fire though - and this shows how amazing the Somali community is - older Somali dudes and older Somali women in the crowd was grabbing, pushing back and yelling at the youngins who were going off.. And they listened.
Amazingly strong community.
[–]BottledCans 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 20時間前 (1子コメント)
Right?? They rent the Convention Center every year to honor high school graduates. The whole community is pulling for their kids to graduate and make something of themselves. I've got nothing but respect for them.
[–]MinnesotaLuke 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 18時間前 (0子コメント)
The way the community polices itself is fucking amazing. I remember I was smoking hookah in a park with ten GROWN ASS Somali dudes (early 20s) and when two random old Somali ladies walked by they all pretended they weren't smoking and the old ladies berated them for a few minutes.
If some white lady I didn't know told me to not smoke tobacco I would laugh lol
[–]CantaloupeCamper 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
Has anyone seen these shows yet? Are they available?
[–]selfcontrolapp[S] 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
I don't even think they started filming.
[–]MinnesotaLuke 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
It's strange how slow the news moves sometimes. With Snapchat, Twitter and Facebook I was seeing all this from my Somali friends on Saturday afternoon. No press until Monday night lol.
[–]legosmyeggo 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 1日前 (12子コメント)
Good on them for standing up and letting others know they're not going to be cornered into a stereotype. I have to respect their passion and determination to improve their community.
[–]CivEZ 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 1日前 (9子コメント)
So, yes...I agree. I do however want to just play devils advocate here, and say. Why not also tell the story of the very real recruitment and very real danger that the ideology of extremism represents? I live in Minneapolis, I went to a high school with one of the largest somali populations in the city. I work with a lot of them. So, my gut reaction is to say "Oh god, not another portrayal of Somalis as terrorists!" But then I had to stop and think, ya but....what is the story they are trying to tell? I really haven't found much information yet. But from the sounds of it, it doesn't sound like it's aiming to paint "Somalis'" as terrorists, but rather, discuss the very real issue of recruitment and radicalization in the U.S.
Anyway. Just a question, or thought. I'm not Somali, and I hate talking to idiots outside of Minneapolis who hear that we have the largest Somali population in the U.S. and say things that are stupid and racist. ....but.... It's not like radicalization doesn't/isn't happening.
[–]selfcontrolapp[S] 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1日前* (1子コメント)
Like most people I've grown up with a bunch of Somali friends. Each one of them has a friend or brother or uncle or aunt or someone who was killed back in East Africa. To them, it is a very real possibility that a majority population will get angry with them and start killing, raping, taking their land and ultimately, kick them out of their homes. It happened in Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya, and Eritrea.
So why not let HBO tell the story, because one of the presidential candidates is going around, referring to Muslims as "they" and saying they need to leave the country to thunderous applause. This follows a pattern they have seen over and over again in different countries. It is a very real concern for them that angry mobs of people are going to start raping their sisters and killing their brothers. You and me might think that's extreme but I doubt our families have been cut in half over 30 years of war, famine and disease. You might understand how they could be little worked up over a film crew showing up and saying we want to convince America you're all suicide bombers, or suicide bomber sympathizers.
[–]CivEZ 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Ya, I 100% understand this. It's the reason I think they have a right to be concerned. I was just saying, I can't really find a great synopsis of the show, and in my head, I can see a show, that discusses the issue, but DOESN'T villainize the Muslim / Somali community. But instead, helps people see them for what they are. Human beings, with hopes and dreams, who have chosen to live in the U.S. and are hoping to raise their children in a country that accepts them, and understands them. Often? Things like this in popular culture can (rarely, I admit) but they can help people identify with the Somali / Muslim communities. I was just trying to suggest, maybe this show would do that? Again, I can't really find a good synopsis of what the show will actually do though.
[–]drozpuke 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 23時間前 (0子コメント)
Because war refugees who are even being oppressed in America still are probably the last people on the planet that should be pointed at and called out for extremism, especially in America thru a Hollywood picture that will likely reach many Americans.
[–]Polaritical -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
How do you know which schools bave the largest amounts of Somali students? (Or any race for that matter)
[–]CivEZ 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
I'm going to assume this question was in ernest and not you trying to be condescending. The state releases this information publicly. Here's a website where you can look up any school in the state, and see the demographics, graduation rates, etc.
MN School Demographics
[+]legosmyeggo スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
Why not also tell the story of the very real recruitment and very real danger that the ideology of extremism represents?
Because it's already been told (and blown out of proportion) countless times.
[–]CivEZ 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
Has it? Here's the thing. It's HBO. They could be trying to tell the human story, the cost of radicalism, and that story, the one that shows the humanity of the radical, of the Muslim... I guess that would be a story I would like to see. Not dehumanization, like Black Hawk Down.
Just my two cents. I do somewhat agree, I am skeptical.
[–]selfcontrolapp[S] 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
If you've grown up to stories about your aunts being gang raped by Somali militias; If you watched your father plead with refugee officials to let him bring over his brother's family who were stuck in a Kenya refugee camp; if you've had people call your sister a "ninja" for wearing a hijab; if you've never had enough money to afford HBO, how trusting are you going to be that you're humanity is going to be respected and dignified?
[–]CivEZ 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Not. Not very. I feel like no one is reading what I'm saying. Which makes me sad.
[–]RungeKattaChose to be Minnesotan -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
When did riots = passion?
Were the Milwaukee rioters just being passionate about burning down their own neighborhood?
[–]drozpuke 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
These protesters were not burning down their neighborhood, they love the West Bank and treat it as anyone would treat a home they care for.
[–]lurkeroutofhiding [スコア非表示] 19分前 (0子コメント)
https://mnfilmtv.org/hotline/view_announcement?id=1431
[+]Faps2Down_Votes スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15ポイント-14ポイント-13ポイント 1日前 (5子コメント)
Why must it be about terrorism?
Maybe because Minnesota is a hotbed for domestic terrorist recruiting and cedar-riverside is the epicenter of all that. These people are that dumb I guess.
[–]stpauler 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 1日前 (4子コメント)
Minnesota is NOT "a hotbed for domestic terrorist recruiting". I'm assuming you're talking about this misleading article: http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-leads-the-nation-in-would-be-isil-terrorists-from-u-s-report-finds/329942131/ A sample of only 58 cases were pulled and 26% of the recruits were from Minnesota. Extrapolating those numbers, so 15 people, shouldn't make anyone say C-R is the epicenter of domestic terrorist recruiting. It's misleading, hyperbolic, and fatuous.
[–]barrinmw 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
https://youtu.be/gzRpAU4L3dA?t=13s
[–]stpauler 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
That movie ruined cream filled donuts for me.
[–]CivEZ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23時間前 (0子コメント)
"It's still warm!!!" Gurgling noises "I think I've had this before"
[–]Faps2Down_Votes -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 19時間前 (0子コメント)
Sorry you are butt hurt, but it's simply a numbers game. Most terrorists aren't public about it so it's hard to accurately tell, but with the giant population it's inevitable.
[+]Xman-atomic スコアが基準値未満のコメント-21ポイント-20ポイント-19ポイント 1日前 (7子コメント)
They want to be seen as more than just a violent group of people, says the violent group of people.
Seriously, I get why they're upset obviously they want to discontinue the perception of:
Middle-Eastern=bad crazy religious person
They haven't even seen the show, unfortunately the setting of this new show is a REALITY we live in right now, it's not fictional it's here.
It's also not that simple, I for one want to see the show and hope it can be a balanced point of view of the current political climate this country and STATE is in.
I certainly don't believe every dark skinned person with a beard is someone to be afraid of but I know the signs of a racist or bigot doesn't matter where they where born or what their religion is.
Know why?
Cause I use my brain to make a logical assessment and don't react at the slightest little slight directed at me or my people. I gauge individuals as a whole.
[–]NurRauch 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
"They haven't even seen the show. Neither have I, but they should know that it's going to be realistic."
[+]Xman-atomic スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
This show is not going to be like 24 with jack Bauer.
That's fox networks formula.
The answer: look at the wire, the sopranos, etc
All very realistic writing to the point that the communities it's based off of have been recorded saying "is someone talking to these writers?"
This show is going to be on HBO.
I'm sure once it's aired the Muslim community is going to be shocked at how accurate it portrays their pov and beliefs as well as the current political climate they live in here in America.
I may not have seen the show, but I know the quality of writing that HBO brings to tv and it is amazing.
So how bout you chill out, because you're attacking me solely because I said these people should chill out and watch the show before they start judging and demonstrating.
Fucking pussy PC culture here in Minneapolis. Man the fuck up Minnesota. It's ok to be judged, you're judging me right now.
Guess what? doesn't make me lose one second of sleep, I'm entitled to my opinion, you're just tearing down my opinion but you have no ACTUAL opinion other than to bitch at me cause I said "chill".
Go fuck yourself.
/freedom of speech ^
[–]NurRauch 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Well, that escalated quickly. I think you have a much thinner skin than most PC police I've encountered in my life.
Suffice it to say, HBO is no guarantee of realism. The Night Of marketed itself as gritty realism and proved to be nothing more than fantasy about jail violence and ridiculous court fiction.
[–]burls 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
Somalia is not in the Middle East
[+]Xman-atomic スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
True enough, Muslims are Muslims, Muslim terrorists are Muslim terrorists, doesn't really matter where they originated if they believe in the same scripture.
Either way, I don't believe this show is setting out to portray any one group as "bad".
That's like me saying:
"Man! Fuck all these movies and shows that show the cartel and poor people in Mexico killing people! I'm not like that, no one I know, is like that! This is bullshit! Why are they making us Mexicans seem like we're savages etc etc etc"
I don't bitch because that is the world we live in, just because one Mexican on tv is a narco doesn't mean we all are.
Same reasoning applies to Somali/Egyptian/Syrian etc etc Muslims, they all don't believe the exact same but guess what enough of them do that they can be very dangerous and to just ignore our current situation because it makes YOU feel bad/judgmental is stupid, and more childish than my trolling efforts here on Reddit.
[–]MinnesotaLuke 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
Because it's a HBO series. They need ratings - and NOBODY going to sit around and watch a Somali family eat food, go to a Vikings game, and go to work lol.
If I was a Irish person in the 1800s or a Scandinavian in the early 1900s,I'd be protesting if HBO was around and somebody from my community wanted to make a series that was going to focus on the negative.
[–]ark_of_okra -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 22時間前* (0子コメント)
HBO, eh? I hope they show Somali boobies. There must be some hot chicks hidden under all those clothes.
[–]minneapolisblows -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 21時間前 (0子コメント)
K'naan left the stage before making a comment about "ignorant" people.
Well now he's a total cunt in my book.
Canadian Somalis don't do as well in western life as Minnesotan Somalis; the canadian systematic racism has shut down progress for them. Then K'naan comes here and refers to Somalis who are getting somewhere in life and being accomplished as "ignorant"....
K'naan only got somewhere in the media by pushing a negative stereotype against his own people. I hope in the future all venues refuse to book his shows. He deserves a good kick in the genitals. K'naan is a god damn lawn jockey.
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