Dragon Age: Inquisition stands as the only RPG made in the Frostbite engine. While BioWare's Mass Effect team is taking cues from the openness of environments, they're also looking at Inquisition's quests -- both what worked and what didn't.
"We learned that there were some quests in Dragon Age that didn’t resonate and were kind of flat – fetch quests and stuff,” says Flynn. “The nice thing is, you take those lessons, you package them all up, and you talk to the Mass Effect team and say, ‘These are the things you should do, these are the things you shouldn’t do.’ And the Mass Effect team get the pencils out and they build all that into it.”
Quote from the recent PC Gamer issue:
Sounds good to me
Great news. Hope they also played The Witcher 3.
Honestly the only message I want them to take is 'less is more'.
I am so excited for ME, but DA:I's quests and general design is a thing of nightmares for me atm.
I am so excited for ME, but DA:I's quests and general design is a thing of nightmares for me atm.
Good, loved Inquisition, but a lot of the sidequests were nonsense.
It helps that you pretty much don't have to do them at all.
It helps that you pretty much don't have to do them at all.
I hope they just chucked the book on DAI's design in the bin then.
No "Hinterlands" the planet? Got it.
I'll believe it when I see it.
So now they're better fetch quests?
Funny thing is that I kind of feel like all the Dragon Age games were made to inform Bioware's development of the Mass Effect games. Not that the DA games are bad or anything it, but I feel like all of the ME games have taken lessons from the DA games.
Reminds I should go back to DA:I at some point. I think the overabundance of those fetch quests and requisitions lists burned me out, but I would still love to see the ending to the game and wrap up my romance with Casandra.
Promising, very promising. Hype for ME:A rising!
Every time BioWare say they listen to feedback their games get worse.
They used the same line and PR and marketing with Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2.
They used the same line and PR and marketing with Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2.
It's worth seeing through. I really like that game.Originally Posted by DanielJr82
Reminds I should go back to DA:I at some point. I think the overabundance of those fetch quests and requisitions lists burned me out, but I would still love to see the ending to the game and wrap up my romance with Casandra.
Thank god. Worst experience in DA:I
I dont believe them, itll just be worse, watch.
The main story isnt bad at all, worthwhile seeing, but yeah that gameplay loop... evertyime i start the game up again, and i do this at least once every two months, i end up rage quitting.Originally Posted by DanielJr82
Reminds I should go back to DA:I at some point. I think the overabundance of those fetch quests and requisitions lists burned me out, but I would still love to see the ending to the game and wrap up my romance with Casandra.
Anyone know of a mod for the game that removes the need for collecting crap? Just that little bit might get me past the shitty quests and mediocre combat to enjoy the good story bits and the cool dragon fights which i never finished.
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building on DA:I
good idea
good idea
DA:Origins and the original Mass Effect are the only good games in the series.
ME2 had a dumb human reaper, DA 2 was a joke with enemies literally spawning in front of you, Inquisition was more mind numbing than Kingdoms Of Amalur and ME3 was no longer an RPG by any stretch of the imagination and the ending was a piss take.
ME2 had a dumb human reaper, DA 2 was a joke with enemies literally spawning in front of you, Inquisition was more mind numbing than Kingdoms Of Amalur and ME3 was no longer an RPG by any stretch of the imagination and the ending was a piss take.
Good to hear
Devs are gamers and too, no doubt they did. Andromeda had been in development for years when The Witcher 3 was released tho, so I wonder how much flexibility they have to change designs decisions.Great news. Hope they also played The Witcher 3.
Mass effect 3 is an improvement on almost every gameplay mechanic over ME 1 and 2Every time BioWare say they listen to feedback their games get worse.
They used the same line and PR and marketing with Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2.
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They better remember for Dragon Age 4 too.
Hey Bioware, for non-shitty sidequests try looking at Baldurs Gate 2. You know, the game you made?
Of course this sounds good for everyone. But it shouldn't be in DA: I in the first place.
Hope so, DAI was mediocre at best.
To be fair, they do pay attention to what people are saying and work with it, even if the reaction might be a misfire.Every time BioWare say they listen to feedback their games get worse.
They used the same line and PR and marketing with Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2.
Most bioware games I've played tend to be pretty radically different from its previous entry. They aren't a studio that makes the same game twice, even if the response to criticism might not be optimal.
They should just make the quests similar to mass effect if they really need some sort of inspiration. That and lots of episodes of Star Trek and the twilight zone.
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I'll wait on a lot of GAF impressions before I buy another Bioware game.
So no collecting a thousand space herbs then?
Nah, ME2 is magnificent, but I lol'd at it not being a good game because it features the human reaper, great argument there.DA:Origins and the original Mass Effect are the only good games in the series.
ME2 had a dumb human reaper, DA 2 was a joke with enemies literally spawning in front of you, Inquisition was more mind numbing than Kingdoms Of Amalur and ME3 was no longer an RPG by any stretch of the imagination and the ending was a piss take.
I hope they focus on a specific direction for each quest, make every individual experience as interesting as possible.
I dont believe it, till I see it. This is a standard response and the actual game ends up having same quests as the previous game.
Lets wait and see Im a bit sceptical
Lets wait and see Im a bit sceptical
DA:I shouldn't be used as any kind of measure, throw everything in the trash where it belongs.
DA:I has completely killed any excitement I would ever feel for any BioWare game. If Mass Effect comes out and everyone says it's fantastic, I may give it a go. Until then, I'm skeptical.
Hope they took feedback for DAI's tactical gameplay and tactics menu as well. I don't like the direction DAI went with gameplay, even though I came to enjoy it for a single character multiplayer action rpg, then took knowledge learned into ignoring controlling party members in SP Nightmare + difficulty trials and mods. Go back to strategic gameplay, console people will enjoy it, I started on console and loved DA:Origins.
I really wished I liked Mass Effect, DA next is going to be such a long wait.
I really wished I liked Mass Effect, DA next is going to be such a long wait.
Witcher 3 and Baldurs Gate 2 had some of the best side content I have ever played.Yeah we get it.
Also this is Mass Effect lol. Why would it ever play like TW3.
Deus Ex MD was pretty good recently too. The ooint is to eliminate trivial collectathons and bake meaningful story into the side missions.
Wonder how much they threw out & redid post-Inquisition feedback.
The plot to ME3 wasn't very good, but I don't know by how any measure someone could call Mass Effect 2 a better game than 3. ME2's a better example of that 'feedback' PR going wrong with how much they stripped and how unsatisfying and boring the core combat still felt.Every time BioWare say they listen to feedback their games get worse.
They used the same line and PR and marketing with Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2.
Did a studio thst makes nothing but RPGs really need feedback from the latest game to know people don't like fetch quests?
I liked DA:I a lot, but a more focused series of quests is something I'm excited to see in both Andromeda and in the next Dragon Age game. It'll be interesting to see their implementation of the feedback they got. You already saw improvement in the DLCs Jaws of Hakkon and Trespasser so they were headed in the right direction. Jaws of Hakkon in particular because it was an open map that allowed for exploration but also had a nice natural progression of story-related quests as you looked around the map.
It's the only DA game I played, but I loooooved Inquisition. Good for people who didn't like those things though, I suppose.
I'm still expecting fetch quests. :|
They're actually pretty good at not repeating the same mistakes twice. They're just even better at introducing new mistakes to replace them.Every time BioWare say they listen to feedback their games get worse.
They used the same line and PR and marketing with Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2.