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    [–]a-little 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Nothing...? When was the last time you looked at Northern Africa? This is how it's looked for millennia.

    [–]alf810[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    The last time was probably a week ago or so. I've been interested in the "Arab Spring" events of both Libya and Syria. Libya has been a focus on my attention quite a bit lately. I just feel that "gulf" is much bigger than ever before.

    [–]chinchaaa 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It probably just looks weird because this map doesn't show borders. When you look at this map, and can see Tunisia on the map, it makes more sense.

    [–]Kaartmaker 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Science mean you measure, you do not feel. There are many maps over years you can compare. It gives you a way to check reality. You can also goon GE and use the timeslider to see if it has changed.

    [–]RUoffended 11ポイント12ポイント  (10子コメント)

    If you're asking why the coast is shaped this way, then I'll take a wild guess. There is a big mountain range running parallel to the coast to the east in Tunisia. The closest tectonic plate boundary is in the north of the Mediterranean, and looking at a plate map, I noticed that it moves towards Libya's coast. So I'm going to guess that maybe northern Africa's coast is being subducted, or the plate caused it to have much lower elevation than the surrounding desert, so that it is flooded by the Mediterranean. But if you're asking why it looks different than before, then you should realize that it's been this way for millennia, even for the Romans and Carthaginians.

    [–]DataSetMatch 11ポイント12ポイント  (9子コメント)

    He literally believes that sometime over the last couple of weeks the world changed around him and what was before a linear coast now has a gulf between Tunisia and Cyrenaica.

    His delicate and infallible self could never have glossed over or misremembered such detail as the coastline of Northern Africa - no some mysterious force has changed the world and the only ones who notice are the brilliant minds at the /r/mandellaeffect.

    That is one of the most pitiful and narcissistic subs out there, because any rational point or evidence is countered with the "well, the world just changed, my memory can't be wrong here".

    [–]RUoffended 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Their original hypothesis about the coast just miraculously changing was so outrageous that I kind of just assumed that they meant what I had proposed; but I guess I underestimated the anti-intellectualism that seemingly tends to abound on Reddit.

    [–]alf810[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    That is one of the most pitiful and narcissistic subs out there

    Narcissists tend to have very closed minds. No one is trying to convince you of anything, it isn't a religion. Most in that pitiful and narcissistic sub are experiencing something that either you are not, or haven't paid attention to. In fact, most of them are genuinely concerned about it - not happy about it. That doesn't make us narcissists.

    evidence is countered with the "well, the world just changed, my memory can't be wrong here"

    Again, it is not a religion or political organization, we aren't trying to convince or convert you to anything. I came here to ask a simple question out of curiosity - you'll notice I didn't mention the Mandela Effect at all, in fact you're the one who went into my profile history, brought it up, then made a comment all about your superior intellect while sarcastically calling us brilliant minds, which no one over there claims to be. You're narcissistic and want attention for yourself. I didn't make this about the Mandela Effect, or a you vs. us mentality, you did.

    [–]DataSetMatch 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Ok then my apologies for being direct; now that you have come here with honest curiosity and have received honest answers, what do you now think of the shape of the Mediterranean and the coastline of North Africa?

    [–]alf810[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think a few mentioned it seems off and I think most stated they don't see a difference. Then again, why would they think too hard about it? Unlike you, they may not be draped in trolling through Mandela Effect lore, therefore they can't fathom something would have happened to make it different.

    Native Americans, seeing the Santa Maria, may have recognized it as a "big canoe," but they would not be able to tell you how long or tall it is.

    People have difficulty processing visual stimuli with which they have no familiarity. See the Double-Slit Experiment, the basis of Quantum Physics. Also, this lecture about Quantum Computing, a new and revolutionary technology. Also, the Google D-Wave founder, explaining how an object has been proven to be in two states at once, as well as explaining the multiplicity of the universe.

    [–]alf810[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The Great Lakes look normal too? Go to Bing Maps and zoom out, even if you're not from that area (which I am - my whole life), it too has changed.

    [–]miasmic 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    lol

    [–]TheBigTank 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You are completely and utterly insane. The Great Lakes have not changed.

    [–]Leuvedo 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What are you asking? Looks pretty normal to me...

    [–]bigcitydreaming 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I think they're asking how the northern coastline of Libya (Gulf of Sidra, etc) got its shape - as it does kind of appear like a massive chunk of Africa is missing, right above Libya.

    [–]alf810[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes, it looks very strange, not like I've seen before. It seems bigger, not just in that image, but Bing Maps as well.

    [–]DataSetMatch 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Christ, /r/mandelaeffect is leaking.

    Look. Libya's coast is the same its always been. You are just misremembering. The world didn't shift. You haven't changed dimensions.

    [–]IZiOstra 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

    OP took the time to screenshot and put a big red cirlcle but not to actually look at a map and see that it looks completely normal

    [–]alf810[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It's a repost from someone else who noticed the same, but thanks for the credit, I suppose. I don't think it looks normal compared to maps I have seen, it is a bigger chunk.

    [–]IZiOstra 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Mercato projection distorts borders

    [–]CWM_93 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think I've had a similar experience, but I found a rather mundane explanation.

    It broke my brain to find out that Edinburgh was about the same longitude as Liverpool and further west than Bristol. It just seemed wrong because I knew Edinburgh was on the east coast and Liverpool and Bristol are on the west. It was a little bit disorientating because something I'd assumed I knew about my own country because it was so obvious appeared to be wrong.

    I found out that some map makers rotate the view a bit to fit the awkward shape of Britain into a neat rectangle at a convenient scale on standard paper sizes. Not by much, but just enough to take Edinburgh from the top left to the top right quadrant of a printed map. I'd probably never noticed the orientation mark being 10° or so off vertical in the classroom maps from my childhood.

    My point is that perceptions and memories are sometimes less reliable than we think. If your experience doesn't match reality, then it seems unlikely to me that it's reality that's wrong.

    Maybe try looking at maps of the area from different projections and see if there are any that match your expectations. I also suspect this may be your problem here.

    [–]BigDriftBuffaloJump 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What do you mean? That's just how the coast is. Although it could be some interesting feature that I'm not aware of.

    Edit: I can't find anything noteworthy in a couple minutes of skimming the web. The area is called the Bay of Sidra if you want to do some digging.

    [–]srappel 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    This thread is insane. I work at a geographical society library and you are free to come in and compare maps all you want. PM me for details if you want more info.

    [–]DataSetMatch 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    That isn't good enough, OP believes that the coastline shifted after some event. The event also managed to change every map in existence, both digital and paper as well as change everyone's memories leaving only OP and a select few that remember the way it was.

    This thread should probably just be locked.

    [–]srappel 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Lol we have maps in a climate controlled vault that show Africa in the 13th and 14th centuries. This thread makes my brain hurt.

    [–]DataSetMatch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That sounds awesome - I'll take you up on that invite!

    [–]mdpw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What ever happened, happened before Libya came into existence. I always thought that some microplates that form the Italian peninsula broke off, similar to how the Baleares and Corsica broke off of Spain and France respectively.

    [–]gripmyhand 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The Atlantic flooding the mediterranean through the Strait of Gibraltar, will obviously affect the lower lying regions differently.

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    [–]D_K_URIZEL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's very strange to me too