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Can Chikane be trusted? [Spoilers] (self.Deusex)

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Here's a pocket secretary addressed to Chikane: http://i.imgur.com/sP6iXVX.png The coordinates point to Zurich. It's from us.dc.01776. And here's an email from Human Revolution that's a transcript of the opening cutscene - Illuminati meeting. us.dc.01776 is probably Stanton Dowd, I'm not sure. But what's important - Chikane has been contacted by the Illuminati.

Offer expires at midnight. Here's an email to Chikane: http://i.imgur.com/rHrmXQP.png Looked around at midnight and you were gone.

Another email: http://i.imgur.com/nBtlSUl.png Chikane is in need of money, or he will lose his foster brother. He also recently had enough money to make a payment (did he save up or was it the money he received from the Illuminati?).

Email at GARM from "Elanus Caeruleus" to Marchenko: http://i.imgur.com/wDWqvlv.png From wikipedia: "The black-winged kite (Elanus caeruleus) is a small diurnal bird of prey". Elanus Caeruleus. EC. Elias Chikane.

I remember one cutscene when he said something like The Task Force is your family. And you have to trust your family. And after the GARM, when Jensen said that it was suspicious that they knew they were coming, Chikane got defensive. (I can't find the cutscenes on yt to rewatch it, so I may be misremembering.)

Bonus email from Delara: http://i.imgur.com/PpUjthK.png I think we might have some friends in common. I'm sure you do, Delara, I'm sure you do.

What are your thoughts? Can we trust Elias Chikane? Do you have any other interesting emails/pocket secretaries? Is there anyone in Task Force 29 who isn't a double agent?

EDIT: Well, it seems like an artbook, of all things, explained everything. Check this comment by /u/TheWebProfessional and the reply below with the photo by /u/NetOperatorWibby

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[–]OptoNick 41ポイント42ポイント  (45子コメント)

Holy shit, great findings

Gotta say, I love these hidden subplots, like this or the one with Madame Photographe

[–]Yiyas 11ポイント12ポイント  (17子コメント)

I tried to hack chikanes computer over 3 playthroughs but it always locked up and failed me even if I hacked it properly. Never trusted him or the psychiatrist with her lv5 hack computer.

[–]Nicze[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

The first time I read his emails I was surprised that they were so boring, because his computer was so well hidden. I kept coming back to his place from time to time to see if there's anything new, but there wasn't. Now it all makes sense though.

[–]ay_what_up 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

where did you find his computer/apartment/pocket secretary??

[–]Nicze[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the lower floor of the building through which you go to get to the helipad. There's a switch hidden behind one paining that opens the door to the room with his computer.

[–]experimenteg0 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

THREE playthroughs? Didn't you get enough points in hacking or parts to build multi-tools with?

[–]Yiyas 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh I got plenty - what I meant is it would bug out. The hacking game would either stop letting me select new nodes causing me to fail it and then after it would remove and lock my HUD until I used the computer again, or I would succeed it and it would say 'lockdown' and it would remove my HUD.

[–]znn_mtg 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This shit happened to me. The only kinda-successful workaround I had for it was using only mouse to initiate and complete the hack (so no fortify spamming if a trace starts running, sadly).

Thankfully it started happening on the last mission, I'd go insane if it happened at your point of the game...

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

I only got one chance to read Psych's emails I wonder if hers had any more. NEVER could read Changs.

[–]Yiyas 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you ignore him for the start of the game he'll eventually try to start his quest by waiting for you at the door as you leave from meeting Miller or something, I think that would be a time where you can hack his computer.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes but that would only be Hub 1. What about Hub 2 and 3?

[–]Mr_SpinelesS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oldly enough later in the game, even though Chang is standing infront of his computer, you were able to access it. At least, I was.

Didn't notice anything new having been added though.

[–]imunfair 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

There was one time I saw a prompt for Changs pop up, as I walked up and he turned to greet me for a second. So I think the key is to grab it right then, because if you talk to him he's buried in the keyboard again when you finish.

[–]Delsana 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPo0DuNv1fk

[–]imunfair 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I feel sorry for game controller/console users on that one.

[–]Delsana 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's an auto complete button. The thing is if you look at his accumulated xp. It looks like he has 4 levels? If so then this is very early on right after the first time you talk to him.

[–]UtopianKing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks. It really means lot to me. I actually prefer hacking because of the "typing"

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[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup I saw it for a second too. I don't even think it was intentional. It was right after he yelled at you for hacking everything.

[–]Nicze[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (22子コメント)

Thanks :) I was inspired by the recent thread by /u/SpikeCraft, but I thought it was better suited for a new thread rather than a comment. Now I'm looking at how long would it take to fly a helicopter from Prague to Swiss Alps and does it fit that "ETA 4 hours", but I know nothing about helicopters so eh. It does seem to fit though.

[–]Sarmane 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

Great evidence. I hate to say it but Chikane looks pretty guilty just from that alias sent to Marchenko especially since only Jensen, Miller and Chikane are aware of the flight path (within narrative reason).

[–]Nicze[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was so certain Miller told Manderley and that's how they knew when I played this mission, when Chikane said "you're suspecting me?" I was like "what? of course not!" Then I read some comments on this subreddit saying that it might've been Chikane, checked the emails and damn, it's totally him!

[–]Mr_SpinelesS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm starting to think that someone is also looking through Jensen's eyes. I talked to one of the IT guys in headquarters and they mentioned something along the lines of "it almost looked like your Augments were broadcasting for a second there"

[–]Delsana -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's no confirmation here just a lot of suppositions.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I mean logically Manderley probably is too.

[–]Sarmane 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Manderley doesnt know about the trip though unless there is a hidden method of listening in on Miller and Jensen that isnt shown to the audience. Its possible but it isnt shown to us as far as I am aware.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

We have no idea if Miller reaches out to him since you know he's back at the office while you're flying.

[–]Sarmane 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

We have indications though that Miller was just an agent following his chain of command (which in this instance wasnt done, he simply keeps the recon idea hush hush from anyone else without us thinking he is lying) and is not actively aware of any Illuminati conspiracy to support. He is a TF29 man through and through.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes Miller is A TF29 man, but he still reports to his boss.

[–]ToastyMozart 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

I'd imagine those VTOLs are a fair bit faster than a regular helicopter too.

[–]Nicze[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

See, I didn't even remember they are called VTOLs. I give up, Jensen should call Malik and ask her opinion. Edit: Jensen was on the VTOL, he knows already how long it took, duh, what was I thinking. I have a headache...

[–]G7Franubis 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

But somehow it took them 2 days to arrive to London from Praha in VTOLs... while Adam and Malik took half a day at most to arrive to Hengsha having taken off at Detroit.

Am I the only one here that sees something wrong with this math?

[–]chris2315 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, it totally adds up. See, the VTOL, unlike traditional helicopters, comes equipped with a device known as a convenience regulator, which controls its cruise speed according to the needs of the plot.

[–]Nicze[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

They probably flew to London just before the event, because why would they be sitting there for two days? I don't know.

[–]Evil_sod 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Honestly? I'd say thats where DLC could fit in.

Nice connections in the OP. I found Elias' emails suggesting he needed money and the very suspect one saying they could make 'his load lighter' but didn't think to look into the name us.dc.01776. Not sure if I missed the one about ETA 4 hours but makes sense too. Some very nice hints here.

[–]thaneofpain 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, you might be right about that. In HR the DLC is inserted during a period where Jensen is incommunicado for a couple days.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first DLC is a bank job for the blade part of the Palisade bank in the sky. So eh.

[–]G7Franubis 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, you may be right. Thing is, considering how the cutscene ended when talking about going there with no time window and then seeing "2 days after" with no further info surely leaves a lot to be thought of.

[–]Nicze[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I found it weird too. They probably had to contact Brown, look at the plans of the building (to find all the best vents, obviously) and other mundane things like that.

[–]ToastyMozart 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I figured they just hung out in London setting up security and doing other, less interesting stuff for a few days.

I don't think that trip would take 2 days in a normal helicopter.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well perhaps they weren't supposed to arrive early?

[–]Smitehades 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just checked after finding all this stuff, wondering if it was a part of a side mission I did parts early by mistake without taking the mission somewhere.

Seems plausible.

[–]ThatOneChappy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah this stuff is cool. Fucking shame it leads no where.

[–]Days0fDoom 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's the deal with madame photographe?

[–]ay_what_up 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

what's the Madame photographe plot?

[–]TheWebProfessional 28ポイント29ポイント  (30子コメント)

Spoiler about this I found in the titan arkbook

[–]G7Franubis 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

The book spills it just like that?

[–]TheWebProfessional 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup

[–]G7Franubis 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, that sadly makes investigating redundant lol. Thanks for sharing!

[–]Nicze[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (22子コメント)

Whaaaat, they just outright said it in an artbook?! I think this sub would love to see the pics, thanks! And now I'm even more worried about Miller...

[–]NetOperatorWibby 21ポイント22ポイント  (19子コメント)

Here you go! https://imgur.com/a7bvEmh

[–]mizuwolf 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

I wonder if Chikane is someone we can get to defect? how willing would he be to work with the illuminati if he knew they DX:HR spoiler. since it seems to be such a sticking point for him

[–]NetOperatorWibby 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ooh, good point! Kinda like how Ben Saxon turned on them in The Fall when he realized the Tyrants got his team killed.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

He needs money.

[–]mizuwolf 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sure, but he's got some deepseated issues with the Incident. Might be enough to turn him against them?

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well maybe but hes till needs money. Plus the Illuminati wanted control not the Incident.

[–]mizuwolf 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

What they wanted doesn't matter when one of them . The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Or, y'know, intentions to rule the world.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They just want to prevent the singularity.

[–]Nicze[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

Thanks! But why would they put more info in an art book than in a game, what the hell.

[–]NetOperatorWibby 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

Seriously, I was disappointed in more ways than one. I thought Chikane would be a good buddy to have. I'm my next playthrough, I'll see if I can make it through GARM quietly so Vega can pick me up.

[–]FuckOffPete 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

She doesn't pick you up.

[–]NetOperatorWibby 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh well. I just assumed that was an option because when Chikane contacted me, he said he heard a lot of chatter about me and that's when I was sniping people.

[–]Bigfluffyltail 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same. That happened when I activated a turret to kill its allies.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Anything else it says?

[–]NetOperatorWibby 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nope, that's all for Chikane.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean for others.

[–]NetOperatorWibby 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah. Nope, no other flat out Illuminati things.

[–]TheWebProfessional 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shit dude you beat me too it was just about to post the pic. your pic was way better than mine though haha

[–]NetOperatorWibby 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hehe, figured I'd help you out!

[–]selib 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

DAMN SON.

[–]behemoth_cat 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Miller's ability to choose reliable, trustworthy people is indeed questionable. :D

[–]Delsana 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well he didn't choose you, Manderley did heh.

[–]TheWebProfessional 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can provide pics if you want

[–]NetOperatorWibby 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Came here to post that bit of info, haha! That's when I stopped looking at the art book until I finished the game. It's also why I hacked all his stuff immediately.

[–]Nilokster 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never got a good feeling around Chik Fil A man, can't believe they spoiled this in an art book.

[–]Ecko09 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any other interesting things revealed in it?

[–]Nicky_C 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

Everyone in TF29 is a double agent or has their own agenda. Except for Aria, poor Aria.

[–]OptoNick 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

She's Walton Simons in disguise, true story

[–]Falke117 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

What about Cheng and Smith

[–]Nicky_C 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Chang is on Chang's side!

[–]Delsana 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Until we can hack his computer we don't know for sure.

[–]MOONDEEZY10 20ポイント21ポイント  (7子コメント)

Also, speaking of the email regarding payments to the assisted living facility in Johannesburg, there's an email (or pocket secretary, can't remember) in the Picus vault in Palisade Bank that mentions Stanton Dowd has investments in South Africa. Connecting the dots, it was probably Dowd that contacted Chikane.

EDIT: Also, looking at that transcript from the HR opening sequence, can't believe I didn't figure out each Illuminati member sooner: hk.pi.02052 (Hong Kong, Page Industries = Bob Page); cn.ctym.99230 (China, TYM = Zhao Yun Ru); ch.who.03629 (Switzerland, WHO = Beth DuClare), us.un.09763 (US, United Nations = could be several people...Rand? Taggart?); us.dc.01776 (US, DC = most likely Dowd); sg.or.di.67892 (Singapore, Omega Ranch, Darrow Industries = Hugh Darrow). Five years later, I finally figured it out!

[–]Nicze[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think it was fairly easy to guess who was who except for Taggart and Dowd. Zhao talks about recalling chips and they were produced by TYM. Beth is from WHO and says the clinics will do as they say. And Darrow says "until our biochip is ready".

[–]MOONDEEZY10 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I guess I just never gave it much thought until now. Makes total sense when I actually stop and think about it!

[–]Delsana 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the intro scene you can hear their voices. It's definitely Taggart that's UN.

[–]Ecko09 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

What is WHO?

[–]Nicze[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

World Health Organisation.

[–]eskachig 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

World Health Organization

[–]UtopianKing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a band, made the C.S.I. theme.

[–]_JackDoe_ 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well now I don't feel quite as bad for robbing him blind.

[–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's got money from the Illuminati though.

[–]ultimentra 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

This makes me remember during the cutscene for the approach to GARM, Chikane says something to the effect of "activating jammer device". More like he was sending Marchenko a message that they had arrived now it seems...

[–]Nicze[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

That bastard... If Jensen didn't have super weird genes he would die. :/ Come on Chikane, I have a bunch of money and nothing to spend it on, I can pay for your brother.

[–]Delsana 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean more likely he already sent it.

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    [–]Bigfluffyltail 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well I mean Adam's also a double agent. It's a double agent den.

    [–]behemoth_cat 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They use the same recruiters as CTU did in "24".

    [–]tkir 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

    One of my biggest concerns lie with how much of a potential sleeper agent Adam is, what with all that time he spent under 'recovering' after his Panchaea rescue and Sarifs comment about not trusting communicating over his infolink. I'm also wondering how this combines into the powerplay going on with the council (and who might have control of Adam), especially when Everett takes over from DuBeers.

    [–]Delsana 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh the game points out point blank that his whole purpose is to discover Janus, that's why he keeps insisting.

    [–]jac52 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well, in the very first Illuminati cut scene after dubai DeBeers says to Bob Page "activate the sleeper". I'm assuming this means Jensen.

    I also think Koller is part of it as well given he would notice before that Jensens "Sarif" Aug's have been replaced and he knows Sarifs work (as he says).

    [–]bristow84 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He might know Sarif's work, but I doubt he knows exactly what serial numbers are on Jensens augs.

    [–]Reliques 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I did think it was odd, when I first met Chikane, "Doubt" was a dialog choice. I thought we were going to be best buds like Malik and fly off in 800-BEE Mk. 2

    [–]OrlyUsay 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Something to note about Delara with the friends in common bit. Delara isn't an American. In a conversation with Jensen, she says "you Americans", you can then follow up asking her where she's from. Thing is, if she was like from Canada, or another nationality born in America, I don't think she'd get as defensive/evasive as she does when she blows off the question.

    Something tells me she's pulling a Quinn and possibly using an Aug to change her accent. If this is the case, the "we might have some friends in common" could also imply she might even secretly be South African herself. A bit more of a stretch on that part, but knowing she isn't an American, and that she's hiding where she is really from is an interesting note.

    [–]Nicze[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I completely forgot she's not an American! I just did some googling and her name is Persian and surname is, I don't know, French? Obviously though it doesn't have to be her real name. Good catch though!

    [–]reclaimer130 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Wasn't there an IP somewhere (not sure if it was in a cutscene or email) that had a Canadian address? I for sure remember seeing something like ca.mtl...something something in the game somewhere. Montreal? That might've been her?

    [–]Nicze[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Everett is based in Montreal.

    [–]revanchisto 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

    This to me is just further proof that a lot of side content was cut from the game, I can almost guarantee you at some point we would have been able to confront him about this or he would have told us.

    [–]ThatOneChappy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah this just fucking pisses me off. uggggh. the fact that its spilled out in the art book tells me this was meant for this game.

    [–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I'm not sure. The game has never really factored the emails you discover as vital except when related to a quest. You should know for instance more names than Page and Manderley right now. But you can't show that.

    So ehh..

    [–]imunfair 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

    It really annoyed me in the final quest that Adam didn't seem to know about the Orchid emails I'd read multiple times. The plot details were clearly spelled out way before he "figured it out".

    [–]Delsana 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Yes we saw poisoned champagne at GARM with the Arc guys.

    [–]dvsfish 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Marchenko said to his goons, "Let them drink some more then kill them." I assume this means that they were partying over something and then shot. There was blood too. Was it really orchid?

    [–]Delsana 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well Orlov specifically says he might come by to watch the reaction, and that he was sending the champagne.

    [–]bobthebantha 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not to mention Elias has some strong anti-aug sentiments that might have been used to coerce him into cooperating.

    [–]Bigfluffyltail 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Well you've made a solid case.

    Edit: Would explain why he got out of the Swiss thingy just fine.

    [–]Zuthuzu 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    And why he was just parked there on the landing pad waiting for you.

    [–]Vicrooloo 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Damn. I thought it was Miller that was the leak.

    I was suspecting him since we got the pocket secretary in Rucker's vault that was activation orders from JM, Jim Miller.

    [–]Nicze[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I think it's more likely to be Joseph Manderley.

    [–]Vicrooloo 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Fuck. I forgot about him. *MINDBLOWN*

    I've been a dick to Miller for no reason!

    [–]Nicze[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I was actually trying not to be a dick and follow orders, because I thought Miller is also an Illuminatus and I shouldn't blow my cover. I even gave him Rucker's evidence to prove my loyalty. Then I realized he was just following orders. And when I saved his life he said that he should've trusted me, now I'm really worried that he's going to go against Manderley's orders and they'll kill him in the next game :(

    [–]sjwophobia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Seems he's done enough to warrant... extreme prejudice.

    [–]ExarchApophis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I came to the subreddit just now to post this shit. Good job beating me to the punch! Fucking Chikane is a traitorous bastard!

    [–]jsm85 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I googled the coordinates the moment I found the pocket secretary and I only came up with a track from a band by the name of softland and a location in Switzerland. Was the track listing a coincidence?

    [–]Nicze[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hahaha, I don't know, I don't think Eidos would go that far :D

    [–]Morpheus_123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You can't really trust anyone sadly. It'either that they are double agents or working for someone from a much higher position. At least there are some people who work for what they believe in.

    [–]ZingasMcCoy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I fucking hate Chikane. Knew something was up with him/

    [–]CSv3n 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Amazing work man!

    [–]engion3 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Crazy they put that in the artbook, wonder if it was a mistake or plot in expansions or next game.

    [–]earwig20 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Jensen might be onto him https://i.imgur.com/L1vLiXJ.jpg

    [–]kuvalda1g 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Reeeeally made me think, huh...

    [–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    US DC 01776 "America's science board convenes next month" is NOT one of the Illuminati that I can determine who it is. UN is clearly Taggart, but DC? DC SHOULD be Taggart but it isn't. So who is DC?

    [–]jac52 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    DC = Darrow's Corpse. Zombie Darrow DLC confirmed.

    [–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What we REALLY need is to see if Delara made any more emails after the first hub. Also if Chang ever can have his computer hacked.

    [–]Nicze[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I did hack Chang's computer, he had his hands off of it for like half a minute. Someone even posted it on youtube: https://youtu.be/yPo0DuNv1fk

    [–]Delsana 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's Total Xp 20000 that's level 4? That's not Hub 3. There must be more than that at Hub 3.

    [–]jac52 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    One thing I just thought... When you first speak to him and ask about his experience he says 10 years SAAF and 5 years private ops. Maybe he was the "Eli" that was replaced by Janus 5 years ago?

    Edit: the pocket diary from US.DC saying "we know who you are" might be referencing that? Or if it's not from the Illuminati maybe he's now a triple agent?!

    [–]TommInfinite 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What I noticed is that when you get to GARM facility and you choose to contact Miller instead of VEGA after Chikane conversation an alarm triggers which means he notifies everyone that Jensen survives.