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Let's talk about hair loss (self.TheRedPill)

NCisawesome が 投稿

I'm reposting this because it was recently removed because I linked a hair loss subreddit...

INTRO: Anytime I have seen this topic brought up on TRP I always see the same response... "just shave it and hit the gym bro". And that's fine, ripped and bald is sexy there's no doubt, but you know what else is sexy? Ripped and a full head of hair. Some guys look great bald, some don't, but if your hair is starting to thin out (don't sweat it, it happens to all of us at some point) you DO have more options than just shaving it.

BODY:

"What do I do? Do I have options??" Yes, but you really only have 1 option....."Do 'The Big 3'".

1: Finasteride

2: Minoxidil

3: Ketoconazole shampoo

Get generic Proscar (have your doctor write you an RX). Proscar is 5mg of Finasteride (propecia is 1mg of Finasteride) used to treat BHP. Get a $3 pill cutter from walmart and cut them into quarters. This means $9 for 120 days of propecia, whereas getting actual name brand propecia is around $70 or so a month. Tell your doctor that you can't afford name brand, and that Proscar is LITERALLY the exact same thing as Propecia, just a 5x stronger dose. Most people can be sympathetic towards wanting to save money. Just be upfront and honest with him.

Get generic Minoxidil online, it is exactly the same thing as Rogaine, I prefer Kirkland (costco) brand, it's about $25 for a 6 month supply. Start with 1 month of the liquid and see how it works. Only get 1 month to start because it MIGHT irritate your scalp, if it doesn't bother you, then after a month get the 6 month supply (I say liquid because it has a slightly better rate of growth than the foam). If it bothers you (either because it's itchy or because it feels like it makes your hair too greasy), then get the 3 months supply of Rogaine foam online or from Walmart.

Nizoral is hard to find these days, but what you want is a shampoo that has at least 1% KETOCONAZOLE as the active ingredient. You only need to use it 2-3 times a week, one bottle will last about three months. Keto has been shown to have anti androgen properties. By itself it's not going to do much, but it helps in conjunction with the other things. It's usually on Amazon for about $11 a bottle. Another option for Keto shampoo is Regenepure DR. I haven't used it, so I can't attest to it, but many others have said it worked well.

Propecia: Some people say that taking propecia makes them kinda tired for the first few hours after they take the pill. I think that's kinda bogus, but I always take mine right before bed. Don't be scared off by horror stories online of people that have had bad side effects. Only 3.8 percent of men stop taking Finasteride because of the sides and after factoring in the placebo effect only about half that actually had any. There has NEVER been a confirmed case of permanent side effects from Finasteride.

Minoxidil: Take a shower in the morning, towel dry your hair, then put the minoxidil in and let it sit while you get dressed. After that, style your hair as usual. Put it in again before you go to bed (needs to be in 2x a day). If you start using minoxidil and stop, the hair that you have regrown using minoxidil will fall out! Keep that in mind before starting.

If you like the way you look with a shaved head that's awesome! But if you like your hair and want to keep it for about $11 per month and 5 minutes of your time a day you can. My hair started thinning when I was 24, I'm 26 now and my hair is as thick as it was when I was a kid. My only regret is that I didn't start sooner.

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[–]Thecman50 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

I am 20 and my hair is starting to thin. Which has a been a huge stressor on me; Thank you for making this post I had very mixed research on it but it looks like you compiled it for me. TRP always has something.

[–]S8600E56 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's important to note that it's the loss in confidence from baldness that women pick up on, not the baldness itself. You can own it just like anything else.

[–]AlerioX 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Absolutely agree. My hair starts getting thinner (I am 23) and when it gets worse I will just rock a bald head like Bruce Willis.
Never wash hair again? That's great!
Own your mistakes and embrace your failures! That's the way to go. Looking for a way to fix your disadvantages is the ultimate bluepilled way to go. Do you walk with high heels just because you aren't tall, faggots?

[–]Stythe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've noticed this as well. I was super inseure for years about it. Now I have that M in front and bald spot in back balding pattern and while it isn't the worst it Wil likely be, it doesn't stop me I'm any notcibae way. I'm sure there are women who wouldn't sleep with me because of it, but I've got some young playes so whatever.

[–]LEVELFIVE -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for your sage advice, faggot

[–]manwhowill -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't completely agree with this. Your hair is part of your appearance and appearance matters (obviously). Not saying that you cannot look good bald but nothing is stopping you from looking better with your hair intact.

[–]S8600E56 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Looks are a factor, I don't claim otherwise. Confidence, however, is the closer.

[–]manwhowill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your previous comment came off as confidence being the only factor, hence my response.

[–]manwhowill 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158889153

This is a very comprehensive guide in terms of hair loss and the various methods at your disposal to stop it in its tracks.

[–]JJMcgray 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cool post. I'm lucky. My bald ass looks good bald. Been getting low cuts since I was a kid so it's literally no change.

[–]1mojo_juju 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't see the purpose of this post--

Are we discussing genetic factors that cannot be changed?

The solution lies outside those genetic factors. Develop those.

Forget what grows upon the head and develop what grows within the head.

[–]SteelToeShitKicker 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Finasteride has the potential to really mess with your HPTA. Google "low T finasteride" and read. Finasteride also made me an emotional little bitch. Not worth the potential side effects.

Minoxidil and ketoconazole are marginally effective. Not really worth it for the daily application.

Low T has been implicated in MPB. The body compensates for low T by overproducing DHT leading to hairloss.

Good luck, for the record, I have tried all three. I'll further add the following:

Don't get plugs. If you continue balding, they will look like shit AND you will have a big scar across the back of your head.

[–]bigmfkr 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's also known to kill libido in some people. What's the use of being attractive if your dick is dead?

[–]dontaskaboutjack 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. I also had strong side effects from finasteride. We have no idea how a lot of drugs actually work, and just because we have identified one biochemical pathway of their action doesn't mean they have no effect elsewhere. Also, just because the FDA doesn't report them doesn't mean they don't exist. Drug trials can easily sample 1000 people without finding a noticeable effect, but with millions of people take the drug, even tiny incidences of side effects can add up to a significant number of people.

Not saying anyone reading this is going to get these side effects, but some people do.

[–]Stevonz123 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a 5-a-reductase inhibitor, which means that it decreases the amount of T that turns into 5-a-dihydrotestosterone, which is like 2x as 'strong'. Keep an eye on it.

[–]balajig8 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also heard if you stop taking Fin and Min, you hair loss will speed up. Lots of side effects of taking these drugs on YouTube.

[–]manwhowill 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your experience isn't representative of the results any single individual will get. People have posted several success stories on hair loss forums using the big three. I would disagree with OP that you need to use all 3. Finasteride is crucial for hair maintenance as it is a suicide inhibitor of 5 alpha reductase Type 2, the enzyme that catalyses testosterone to DHT conversion (basically what causes male pattern baldness or androgen if alopecia). Minoxidil stimulates hair growth by promoting nutrition supply to your hair. Two very different drugs with different effects.

Finasteride is effective in individuals with high IGF-1. It is possible your hormonal makeup does not allow for effective Finasteride usage.

New hair transplant techniques remove the need for removing a piece of your scalp so scars are no longer an issue.

Thanks for the post OP. I would post a direct comment but this is my TRP account and I have not contributed much as of yet. I will make a post that looks at hair loss from a scientific perspective and explains what can be done to combat it.

[–]tthrowaway- 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The body compensates for low T by overproducing DHT leading to hairloss.

You will need to expand on this. DHT is created from T, through enzymes that are inhibited by finasteride.

Everybody reacts differently. I'm on fin for about 1 year, no sides, less hair falling. And definitely not low T.

[–]SteelToeShitKicker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure.

A google search will get you plenty of info, here's a snippet.

https://perfecthairhealth.com/men-stop-thinking-your-hair-loss-is-due-to-high-testosterone/

It turns out that testosterone (specifically, free testosterone) converts to many byproducts aside from DHT. As men’s testosterone levels decline, their bodies also begin shifting the conversion of free testosterone toward DHT and away from other testosterone byproducts. This is how serum (blood) DHT levels remain constant, even when men’s testosterone levels plummet.

When T gets low, the body upregulates DHT production. I have actually started growing back some hair since I went on clomid for low T. I like being bic bald now though, so it's unlikely I'll ever grow it back.

[–]homelessWOOKIE9 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

what about a hair transplant? Wayne Rooney had one recently

[–]Endorsed ContributorRP-Doctor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My understanding is that this stuff will go quite a ways in preventing hair loss, but not regrowing it. Once the follicles are dead and no longer producing hair you're out of luck. So if you look like Jude Law, you need a transplant to regain hair in the bald areas and then medications to maintain it. If your hair if basically full, but you can tell things are going south with a thinning crown or temples, you can hop on these medications and slow the progression pretty considerably. At the very least, it would likely give you time to save for a transplant if that's really what you wanted.

[–]NCisawesome[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

You're looking at 10k at least for a hair transplant, if it came down to that honestly I would just shave it. But a transplant is definitely effective.

[–]homelessWOOKIE9 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

cool, ehh 10k isn't to too bad depending on your income and its longevity. I like hair

[–]norsegaud 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lies. Go to Turkey or Thailand for ~$1k, then spend another 1k on the operation. My coworkers both got it done and they loved it. Even in another country, you'll find top (if not better) surgeons and operations for a fraction of the price. All you need is a few days in a hotel in a beautiful country.

[–]NCisawesome[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I have to fly to another country to have surgery on my hair to keep it I'll just shave it.

[–]jmg83 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing wrong with going to another country. It's like a vacation, only with purpose.

[–]grewapair 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Warning, Merck OWNS your doctor.

After ten years of paying for brand name Propecia, before it became "generic" (which saves about 5 percent of the cost - big whoop: Merck is paying the generic manufacturers to keep the price sky high), I asked my doctor for the 5mg generic proscar, which is truly generic. 30 tabs of the truly generic 5mg Proscar, cut into 150 1mg doses cost $20. 150 1mg brand name Propecia cost about $450. The difference is 22x as much for the same drug.

First, my doctor said he was "out of prescription pads", would call it into the pharmacy. He calls it in as 1mg brand name. I go, they try to charge me full price, I didn't pay for it and call him and ask for 5mg generic.

So he called it in as 1mg generic, but at that time there was no such thing. So I go and they change it to 1mg brand name, and try to charge me full price for the brand name 1mg. I didn't buy it and called him back and asked for the 5mg generic.

He called back and said he was not going to write that prescription, period. I could basically go fuck myself. All his BS "mistakes" were of course on purpose. He was getting all sorts of benefits from Merck and I could either be used as a tool to get more of those benefits or I could find another doctor. He was my dermatologist.

I got my own regular doctor to write the prescription for 5mg generic, but I'm almost out of it, my regular doctor retired, and I am not looking forward to the fight, which I know I'm going to have with every doctor in town.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRP-Doctor 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is highly unlikely. While I don't doubt your story (the doctor calling in the wrong thing repeatedly and then refusing to call in the 5 mg prescription), I highly doubt he's in Merck's pocket.

It's simply too risky for a doctor to have associations like that. This sort of thing leads to a revoked license pretty much instantly. Merck would have to pay him several times his salary for it to be even remotely worth the risk, and he's not generating even close to that much revenue for Merck by directing the occasional patient away from the Proscar. The money doesn't add up there.

However, I 100% believe you had a shitty doctor. Doctors have a tendency to get bored with cases like yours, especially dermatologists, who often went into the specialty because of the money and the decent hours. It's a shame, but it's somewhat fostered in medical school and residency. Good training is synonymous with interesting cases and pathologies, even though most doctors, even those training at the top hospitals in the world, are going to be seeing 99% mundane cases as attending physicians. He spent the better part of 7-8 years getting excited to treat dyskeratosis congenita and you're in his office with a mundane, medically irrelevant (going bald has no true health repercussions aside from the often overlooked psychological effects), case of hair loss. He should be sympathetic and eager to have another chance to help out a patient, but he's been doing this so long he's lost a lot of empathy. So he does what he's been doing for 10 years and writes a script for Propecia. You call him back asking for the generic. He sees a generic is available and calls that in, moving on to the next patient before he's put down the phone. You call him again asking for a drug that isn't technically indicated for hair loss, even though it's the same active compound. He doesn't want to deal with it, doesn't want the liability of prescribing something off label, and doesn't want to go through the process of figuring out if it's actually the same thing.

This isn't a case of Merck owning your doctor. Trust me, I worked in Pharma for years before going to medical school and this sort of thing doesn't really happen anymore. However, doctors can still be shitty, and I'd recommend you find a new one who pays closer attention to his patients.

[–]manwhowill 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Try an online supplier and you don't need a prescription. The pharmaceutical industry is messed up.

[–]Nizz0matic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

well yeah thats how the medical, like all industries work dude. profits above all else.

[–]justhereforthelaughs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I went bald in college. I had sex with two women before that. I tried the pills, which worked OK, not great, the Rogaine which worked kind of, but I found to be a hassle. Finally i just shaved it and never looked back. I've had sex with a lot more than 2 women since then. It only stops you if you let it. Same as being short, which I also am. Sure, there ARE women who will disqualify you based on these factors. But fuck them, there are a lot who won't care if you don't.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRP-Doctor 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I never understood the poor reaction to using these medications for hair loss. By all means, if you don't want to try it don't, but these threads never cease to produce a number of comments getting visibly upset at guys using these drugs, even if they're doing so at negligible cost with no side effects.

It's hilarious that the same guys who will tell you finasteride will fuck up your HPTA and cause permanent libido problems will recommend gear no problem. I can guarantee you there is a much, much higher percentage of guys walking around with limp dicks due to unsupervised androgen use than due to finasteride, but because androgens improve your squat numbers, somehow that makes it okay.

How are the two any different (aside from finasteride having a significantly milder effect on your endocrine system and a much lower incidence of sexual side effects)? Both are drugs guys are taking, nearly always with the end result of looking better and having more confidence. Let it go.

[–]bigmfkr 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

And yet, somehow, "Post-finasteride syndrome" is a known thing.

[–]LordPorker 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can screw up your libido, and getting it up, etc.

[–]SteelToeShitKicker 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's hilarious that the same guys who will tell you finasteride will fuck up your HPTA and cause permanent libido problems will recommend gear no problem.

I'd rather be huge and ripped than have a full head of hair. I can certainly sympathize with this straw-man of yours.

[–]StuttBuffer 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Own it and buzz it off. Your hair is only making or breaking you if you needlessly stress out about it.

[–]manwhowill 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

While that may be acceptable to you, a healthy head of hair can contribute to one's appearance far more than a bald head can. It varies by individual.

[–]victor_knight 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

My ex-wife told me, a few months after we got married, that I was the tallest and best-looking guy among all she considered marrying. One of the most important things to her, though, was that I had a head full of thick, dark (as in not greying) hair, she said. I'm not trying to make you feel bad but just telling it like it is. I thought it may be relevant to this thread.

[–]Blaat1985 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So one women thinks like that, big deal.

[–]liftshootdrink 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hated going bald, and I still do (started at 22, 26 now). But I've pulled as much pussy as I did before I started losing it. The only thing it has ever affected is my confidence. I've been considering SMP or TMP lately, but am smack in the middle of intense OTJ training.

Nice post. Thanks for the info.

[–]Nizz0matic 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

fuck you and your abbreviations.

[–]cali8112 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Low iron levels can also cause hair loss. I've found that even taking a probiotic helped with shedding. I am of course also using duta, minox, and keto shampoo.

[–]Druidite 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've also found that there is some link between eating well and keeping your hair nice and thick and strong. I've been able to regrow some this way. I think it may be possible to go all the way but I also may just be dreaming.

[–]forcevacum 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is anyone up to speed on the latest research on what mechanisms are at play when hair starts to fall out and why we can't fix it yet? It seems like a problem that would be easily remedied with enough study and surely there is a large enough market for a product that solves this issue.

[–]NCisawesome[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Male pattern baldness is caused by the production of the hormone DHT, which is a by-product of testosterone. Finasteride halts the production of DHT without affecting your testosterone levels.

[–]Druidite 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, there was someone making a few posts about half a year ago talking about all the latest research and many ways to combat hair loss. I forget his name but he was talking about how DHT wasn't the whole picture at all, how people were focusing too much on one specific thing and missing the whole picture. He said bloodflow is more important and recommended scalp massages along with certain drugs and oils. I wish I remembered his username but you can probably find his posts by checking google and using the keywords I mentioned in this post.

[–]Beattz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've read about how the skin of your head starts to tighten on top as you age, cutting off blood and nutrition. This also plays an important role in hair loss and it's one of the main reasons why women can lose hair as they age. This obviously depends on genetics too how much your skin tightens and cuts off the flow of nutrition. I believe this was the other part of the equation on hair loss in males, and also why scalp messages can prevent hair loss in a way. I might not be correct about everything, gotta look up the source for that.

[–]2popthatpill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should probably mention dutasteride (Avodart) too. Dutasteride takes longer than finasteride to clear from the bloodstream and so it gives a more steady serum profile. Side effects are more or less similar, but pretty rare. The US patent on dutasteride expired in November last year, so generics should be available by now.

Useful links:

[–]TheDialecticParadox 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

OP have you looked into RU55841? There are studies that show it has the ability to regrow lost hair at quite a rapid pace. Unfortunately it isn't approved by the FDA and not much is know about it, but I thought I would mention it for those that are desperate to regrow their hair.

[–]manwhowill 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is an experimental drug. Anecdotal evidence isn't the same as a double blind scientific study. Given the unknown safety profile, best to stay away.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've given up on Propecia because there's a risk it can cause cancer. No matter where you stand, I'm not going to increase any risk for cancer. I'm more interested in trying out Rivivogen.

alpha m yo

[–]ThrowItDownSouth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I started going bald at about 16 and now at 24 have a lot of thinning on top, receded hairline, and something of a bald spot. Prior to this I had long rock and roll hair for all my life. I cut it all off around 19, when my receding hairline couldn't be covered by ponytail. Now I buzz 1 on sides, 2 on top and honestly I don't stress about it. It is disheartening sometimes realizing I basically never got to play the game with a full head of hair, but that's it. Otherwise I remember that most guys are going to lose their hair in the next 10-15 years. The women I attract now will never complain about "when I lost my hair" or etc.etc. They know the deal and don't care, if they neg me on it I will do the same to them.

The 'regimens' and drugs people take is like the bluepill of hair. If you keep thinking you can save it or regrow it or whatever, it stays on your mind and screws with you, and when you finally have to admit defeat you will stress all over again. Just forget about it and move on with your life. Very few people are looking to your hairdo for leadership, ask the Donald.

[–]tallwheel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been using all three of those for years. I actually started having huge success once I added the following:

  1. Taurine supplements: I take 500mg twice a day. I also hear applying taurine directly to the scalp is even more effective, but I don't do this yet.

  2. A round silicone brush: Use it for applying both the Minoxidil and Ketoconazole shampoo. Helps to get both applied much more deeply and evenly, and helps to keep follicles clean. Also the massaging action not only feels good, but is claimed by some to encourage blood flow and thus hair growth.

This is just my personal experience, obviously, but for me, I noticed a huge improvement at the time I added these two things. (Can't say for sure if it was just one or the other, since I started both at the same time and am too afraid to quit either.) My current LTR can't believe my hair was ever thinning.

[–]Sonndance 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

All of these drugs will fuck with your hormones. If it agrees with your body so be it but you are only delaying the inevitable. Google SMP. Scalp micro pigmentation. I was skeptical but it looks great and was a brilliant decision to get. Reputable practices will have you not knowing what's real and what isn't

[–]franz1980 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some have tried topical Spiro and progesterone with some success

[–]JimboLitres 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

how about just get off the DHT's

[–]gov400 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good post. Also a good tip is use one of those needle dermarollers on your head before applying the minoxidil to help it absorb better

[–]LordPorker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Get a wig off eBay for $10. What could go wrong?

Or just shave it all off.

[–]verify_account 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

None of those products are effective as stopping balding in the front. Shave it and be done with it.

[–]possiblelifeinuranus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish that my hair was getting thinner,would be easier to style it.

[–]sunkindonut149 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My friend has been on Propecia since he was 21 and it works for him

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    [–]CamTalbot -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Agreed. Just shave that shit and stop thinking like a fucking girl.

    [–]collegegreens 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I must admit going bald is one of my biggest fears. I'm 30 and it hasn't started yet, but both of my grandfathers were completely bald, although my dad has kept most of his hair until 50. I have quite thick hair and it's really part of how I look. It's good to know there will be options if it does start. Thanks for the good information.

    [–]LordThunderbolt 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Go bald and grow a thick and full beard like king Ragnar Lothbrook.

    [–]RedPill_CS 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Hey, i'm almost 22 and my hair has been thinning for the past 2 years. I shaved my head for a while, it looked good, but now i let it grow again because i really missed my hair. Thanks for the post, man! i'm not from US but i'll search for the equivalent brands in my country.

    [–]manwhowill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Search for Finasteride as that is the drug name. Studies have shown that even 0.2mg per day can be an effective dose as there are diminishing returns once you up the dosage. Something else you can look into is 0.5mg dutasteride per day. This has better prospects in terms of hair growth but more severe side effects and leaves less than 10% DHT for your body (compared to normal levels) while Finasteride leaves 35% or so. DHT is not entirely evil. Your body does need it for normal functioning.

    [–]ban_evasion_nickname 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    My god, you dudes are sensitive. I didn't realize TRP == give all your money to big pharma.

    Just be a fucking man and embrace it.

    [–]mrjowee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I decided to shave my thinking hair when I was 23. I'm 34. I'm not just sorta bald, receding hairline, thin in the back, etc. No, I'm bald. Legitetimatly bald. Luckily I have a normal shaped head and face, and can pull off a shaved head.

    I'm glad it happened early. It's pretty sad to see a guy my age trying to style his ultra thin hair (usually in some kind of blowout/spikes middle school hairdo that's still popular in this part of the country) rather than getting rid of it. Is it weakness? Vanity? Dishonesty with his situation? I'm sure women notice this too.

    There's no proper allegory or comparative body feature for baldness. It's not as detrimental as being short. Both are things that can't be changed, but being bald is a strictly masculine trait. It's certainly not like being fat. You can't change your diet and hit the gym to grow hair. It's not like being unemployed either.

    [–]Keyszer -5ポイント-4ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Womans long hair perceived by men is sexy.
    Mens short hair perceived by woman is sexy

    Men have fear of loosing hair. Men get in stress of getting bald. Truth is nobody cares if a man has hair on his head. Especially woman.

    Long hair on man makes feminine -> makes soft -> makes attractive but NOT dominant

    Social conditioning has made us think that loosing hair is a bad thing.

    Nature/Evolution has made woman grow hair.
    Nature/Evolution has made man loose hair.

    Think again

    [–]NCisawesome[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I never said having short hair or being bald is unattractive, my post is simply for people who like having hair and want to keep it. If you prefer having short hair / being bald please move along, thanks.

    [–]samenrofringslikeLBJ -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

    No need to be combative. I think his point could be included as a preface to your post, just to point out to men that, as allways, women dont really care. They dont need a big dick/head of hair/ perfect insertions on your chest. They need a man. Those things help, but are not what makes a man.

    And a question, what to do about stress and its effects on hairloss? Is it worth getting beta-blockers?

    [–]NCisawesome[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Fin, min, & keto only help male pattern baldness, when it comes to stress and it's effect on your hair that's something you would need to talk to your doctor about at your next physical.

    [–]GetFitFatFuck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So are you Indian or Russian/Eastern European?

    [–]manwhowill -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    While I appreciate u/NCisawesome sharing this information, this post borrows sections verbatim from another post made 3 years ago in the tressless subreddit. Proper credit should have been given.