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[–]Rococo89 61ポイント62ポイント  (7子コメント)

Danny and Roy (Adore and Bianca) are both latino. Danny is Mexican-American, Roy is Cuban/Honduran-American. Then we have Trinity... not exactly sure of her heritage, but I think it's safe to say she's African-American. That's 1/3 of the queens who are left.

Now, let's see how many non-Hispanic White contestants have been in the top 3 of each season.

Season 1: Bebe Zahara Benet, Nina Flowers, Rebecca Glasscock: 0

Season 2: Jujubee, Raven, Tyra Sanchez: 1

Season 3: Alexis Mateo, Raja, Manila Luzon: 0

Season 4: Sharon Needles, Chad Michaels, Phi Phi O'Hara: 2

Season 5: Alaska Thunderfuck, Jinkx Monsoon, Roxxxy Andrews: 2

Season 6: TBD but rumors are, both Bianca and Adore make top 3, and Trinity is eliminated in top 8, so that leaves us with one non-Hispanic White contestant to fill the third spot

5 out of 15 contestants making the top 3 of seasons 1-5 are non-Hispanic White.

I think it's safe to say Rupaul isn't really trying to crown a White Queen over the rest.

[–]Bozenski 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

COME ON TRUTH!

[–]constantcompromise 67ポイント68ポイント  (13子コメント)

I'm pretty sensitive to non white folks getting kicked off shows first but I don't think it applies here.

[–]MissErikaKim Chi 62ポイント63ポイント  (11子コメント)

Manila has expressed her frustration at a lack of positive Asian role models in the media and that is totally valid but what I'm concerned about is the possibility that Manila actually thought Gia was going to be Americas next drag superstar.

[–]Rawrzimon 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

This issue kind of came up with Dallas Buyers Club (un-drag related. . . well. . .sort of). People got mad that they didn't cast a transexual as the part that Jared Leto won an Oscar for. But it's one of those things, just because a person could be transexual does not mean that they would fit that role completely or be a great actor. Here: Just because a person is ethnic or white does not mean that they are a great drag queen.

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    [–]Rawrzimon 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Bad comparison then. I apologize.

    [–]SwatchVineyard 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think people sort of underestimate Leto's appreciation of gender-play, as it's not really something brand new to him. I'm not saying he is perfect for the part or would do it better than other trans, or that it makes him qualified to be drag. I'm only saying he's not a normal actor and that a role like this is something he would do and not just any role.

    [–]smariiKatya Zamolodchikova 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

    But did they even bother to look for a transexual to fit the role?

    [–]mellowwords 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Let's be real: the only trans person Hollywood is even interested in talking about now is Laverne Cox. The rest are invisible.

    [–]Rawrzimon 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I will have to say I honestly have no idea.

    [–]bluhiem 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

    no, its been shown that trans people werent even considered for casting the position. I don't understand why people are mad at jared leto, hes an actor who took a job. He even studied under a trans* person to learn the role. I havent watched the movie but he comes across as someone who treated the role with respect more then other actors may have.

    [–]smariiKatya Zamolodchikova 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Of course I'm not mad at Jared Leto, he's a fantastic actor. The problem is that Hollywood refuses to cast trans people even when the part is of a trans person.

    [–]bluhiem 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    sorry, didn't mean to imply you were. And I agree with you.

    [–]smariiKatya Zamolodchikova 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's alright :)

    [–]Klope62 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Survivor and Big Brother. Every year.

    [–]kezebco 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

    "Who do I route for now?"

    I can't be the only one who caught this.

    [–]ThePrincessEvaA little bit of ash, some tishies, and a little kuht-kuht 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Guys. Guys. Manila's making a map. We were all wrong, this isn't about diversity, she's just trying to map the queens out.

    [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    OMG.

    [–]inillusion 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

    wtf...where did THAT came from?

    [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

    She's obviously speaking about Kelly Mantle. Lol.

    [–][deleted] 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

    And Magnolia. What the fuck. We've had 2 white queens booted, 1 Asian queen, 1 Latino queen, and 1 black queen. Come the Hell on.

    [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Manila is just trying to make RPDR equal to all species...including Swordfish ;)

    [–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    LOL because most of the non-white girls left the show and Manila is mixed herself.

    [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 26ポイント27ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Manila also explains further in her comments: "Maybe it's a casting issue then... I don't know. For some reason I'm just kinda disappointed, that's all I'm saying. Maybe next season there will be 5 black girls, 3 Latinas, 3 Asians, 1 Indian girl, and the rest can be big girls. And one white girl who "thinks outside the box" LOL"

    [–]TinTimJY 26ポイント27ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I kind of see it, it's a pretty heavily white cast this year. It's gotta be a challenge to balance all the diversities in the casting process -- region, style of drag, levels of experience, personalities, etc.

    [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Adore and Bianca should do well. I guess their heritage probably won't be given focus and it's weird that given the herstory of drag and queens of color, we still have very white-casts.

    [–]badgerspriteWhat Did I Do That Was Un-Christian? 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

    The cast has certainly gotten whiter from about S4 onwards. That much is fact.

    One thing I have actually wondered about is whether there's too much of a disconnect between drag race and the ball circuit. If that's the case, that does lead to the exclusion of a lot of black drag artists.

    I mean, the only ball contender we've really had on the show is Mariah, and she fits way more into the conventional RPDR drag queen mold than a lot of people in the ball circuit that I've seen. But my understanding of all of that is pretty limited, so I'd be interested to hear someone who knows more speak on that.

    [–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    One thing I have actually wondered about is whether there's too much of a disconnect between drag race and the ball circuit. If that's the case, that does lead to the exclusion of a lot of black drag artists.

    This is what I've been thinking about. I mean, if I look at the queens who try out at pageants, the majority of them are white. So you have different demographics in the various forms of drag, not to mention different demographics when it comes to who can afford to compete on RPDR (make a decent-quality audition tape, be away from work for weeks, afford tons of costumes, fit in to the aesthetic the judges want, and so forth).

    [–]badgerspriteWhat Did I Do That Was Un-Christian? 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah, this is exactly what I was wondering.

    I would be surprised if things like this didn't have an effect on casting.

    [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I've heard that the ball-crowd doesn't do drag to make money like the RPDR queens and they didn't like the edit/treatment of Mariah.

    Even if we never see another ball-queen, there's a lot of diversity in the bigger-drag cities that hasn't been tapped. It's sad that all we've seen of SF is Honey Mahogany.

    [–]LHarkinsannoying rotten cunt. 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

    There's no reason to be disappointed though. Regardless of race "counts", we got a great mix of drag styles this year and that's all I personally care about.

    I doubt Manila is PC/stupid enough to actually be annoyed by this, so I really don't get her view point.

    Also everyone who has gone home, has gone home for a very clear reason, not for whatever faux-racism she is insinuating

    [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Yeah, I totally don't agree that race determines if they go home. But I do wish we'd have more queens casted that break type like having more African American queens that aren't pageant who aren't Milan (and could make top 3).

    It's funny that two white queens were the first to go home and she made this comment.

    [–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    African American queens that aren't pageant who aren't Milan

    I love you

    [–]norwegiantranslator 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I do wish we'd have more queens casted that break type like having more African American queens that aren't pageant

    Bebe doesn't count? Ya, she looks great on a runway but she's much more than that, and she won the first ever Drag Race.

    So quick to forget, people are ...

    [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes and no. I was more referring to a queen's look because even Bebe had fairly pageant runways.

    [–]likeawomanHeavy Cream 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    just erasing Adore and Bianca (and kind of Trinity, who I actually expect to do well next week after that Untucked) like that is NAGL.

    [–]AxanaWalking Children in Nature 18ポイント19ポイント  (14子コメント)

    I hope Bianca reads her to filth for questioning her ethnicity.

    EDIT: Scratch that. Bianca is too professional to get involved in social media drama.

    Also, I thought Manila knew Bianca personally from her time in NYC. I've seen videos of Bianca and Sahara in the same show...

    [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 14ポイント15ポイント  (13子コメント)

    I think Manila knows that Bianca is Latina, but is trying a joke without selling it/much delivery. I think the point is that Bianca's heritage isn't being said by the show and maybe some viewers assume she's white?

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      [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

      The show has a problem with addressing mixed queens or non-Puerto Rican latina queens. It would be interesting to see some heritage-themed challenges like the cake-one with Stacey?

      They might address it with Adore - her few Spanish words haven't been edited out (but that's sad that's all we have).

      [–]TinTimJY 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

      And then you have that weird shit with Phi Phi pretending to be Latina.

      [–]Rococo89 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I never really got that from Phi Phi. She did do the chola thing during one of the challenges, but she's been pretty vocal about her Asian heritage.

      [–]behonourableAcid Betty's eyerolls and general demeanour 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      What was the cake thing with SLM? I was re-watching her season's snatch game recently and I know she darkened her skin to play Monique but I wasn't sure of her ethnicity/whether it was blackface...

      [–]gardenofcucumbersMannimarco for Marco Marco 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I think it was with the cakes the queens decorated during Face, Face, Face of Cakes - didn't SLM decorate hers with something about her heritage?

      [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      She is Native American she said and I presume she also has African American heritage too or else the skin darkening might have been seen as a bit off putting.

      [–]Rococo89 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Not sure if it's an actual effort in regards to editing. Hispanic/Latino is an ethnicity, not really a racial construct, which is why I think a lot of these Latin queens have been able to blend into the black and white checkerboard pretty seamlessly. Not a lot of people knew that both Coco Montrese and Roxxxy Andrews were Hispanic (s 5), or Delta (s 4). Not really sure many would have known Lyneysha was Puerto Rican had she not had an accent.

      [–]AxanaWalking Children in Nature 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Do Adore and Bianca want to play up their heritage for the cameras? How much of it is editing, and how much of it is Adore and Bianca not talking about it much in their confessionals?

      [–]blogginglifeKatya Zamolodchikova 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I think Adore is Latino, Native American, and White.

      [–]Rococo89 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Well, most latinos ARE Native American (and I'm talking about the continent here, not the US; in this instance, it would be Mexican indigenous) and White. It's called mestizo.

      [–]Cocotapioka 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I've noticed that too. Roxxxy and Delta (IIRC) were both Latina as well. I think there was a point where you could see Roxxxy talking to somebody in Spanish. And so while I wouldn't outright say they don't count as Latin queens because they don't get the Charo edit, I can see why that's a gray area in terms of representation since the erasure you mention...they're kind of 'coded white' by deliberately glossing over their ethnic heritage. They're like the Rashida Jones of Drag Queens.

      [–][deleted] 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Bianca? BIANCA?! The bitch is Latino and it's not hard to see! I mean, I found her exact ancestry (Cuban and Honduran) in 10 seconds using Google. Manila, baby, are you blind?

      [–]SwatchVineyard 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

      For some reason I read this in Bianca's voice in my head....

      [–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      "Really, queen?"

      [–][deleted] 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Odd, considering she was "What???" when Shangela read her for using Asian stereotypes. NOW she'd upset the ethnic queens are going first? Couldn't possibly be because they were not serving good looks or because they weren't doing well in challenges. Pfft.

      [–]nathanj594Alaska Thunderfuck 5000 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I remember when all the white people were saying the same thing back in Season 3. xD

      [–]badgerspriteWhat Did I Do That Was Un-Christian? 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Oh man, I remember when people used to say white people couldn't win on Drag Race, and that Ru was a reverse-racist for picking two black winners in the first two series.

      Lmao, hilarious times.

      [–]2DeluxeDry like your vagina. 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Anything anybody does ever is racist. Its just a fact. I'm being racist right now.

      [–]badgerspriteWhat Did I Do That Was Un-Christian? 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I don't mean to be offensive but do you have nail polish?

      [–]Unnie55Katya Zamolodchikova 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Wow Manila sounds delusional. Has she forgotten that there have been THREE winners of color? Hell white people were complaining for a minute.

      [–]hamoboyPaleho did nothing wrong! 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Yeah, I remember the comments on the blogs around S3 and S4, they were insistent that RuPaul would never crown a white winner and that white queens should just not bother going on the show. It was ironic that the first white winner would be Sharon Needles, and all the race drama that she drags around...

      I think there's a conversation to be had about race and drag, but the way Manila came into it was just cray cray. I think she has been feeling some kind of way about the later seasons and how the asian queens have been representing, and she got drunk at a viewing party and is just ranting drunk. Maybe she can claim someone hacked her facebook page?

      I'm definitely underwhelmed by the asian queens after S3, I mean, S1-3 the asian queens were the fiercest queens on the show, Ongina, Jujubee, Manila herself and Raja, they're all in the Drag Race hall of fame, then we see Jiggly, Phi Phi, Vivienne and Gia, like gurrrls, study up on your forebears, try to bring it as well as they did.

      [–]CoobyMXPut some butter on it. 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

      What? Is Phi Phi asian? I thought he was american with some latino background.

      [–]Cocotapioka 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I thought he was american with some latino background.

      I know you probably didn't mean it that way, but American doesn't really mean much from a racial/ethnic standpoint, unless you mean Native American.

      [–]hamoboyPaleho did nothing wrong! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I read somewhere that Phi Phi was part asian and part european. I'm willing to be corrected if I'm mistaken.

      [–]imuahmanilaPhi Phi O'Hara -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Phi Phi is part Filipino. In my experience, half-Filipinos will trip you up every time because they usually look like a slightly exotic version of the other part(s) of their ethnic background. Manila looking as Asian as she does is a bit uncommon for someone like her.

      And yes, it's been a disappointing crop of Asian queens since season four started.I'm ready to get a fierce Asian girl in the mix again.

      [–]Beezo514What the problem is?[S] 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This is not RuPaul's Affirmative Action Drag Race.

      [–]MissErikaKim Chi 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Season 3 was the least white season. The last white girl to go home was Delta and everyone knows she's black so before her it was India who went home 4th.

      [–]praisebetomoomon 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Delta's Mexican anyway.

      [–]MissErikaKim Chi 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Is she? She always says she's black.

      [–]josiahpapayaI had a rough childhood okay, I wasn't watchin fuck'n batman 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      She's joking.

      [–]ThePrincessEvaA little bit of ash, some tishies, and a little kuht-kuht 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I like your references girl. Thought I was the only one who thought that was really funny when she said it.

      [–]warriorholmes 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

      Manila, look what you have done! You have angered the whites!

      [–]ObsidianBlackbirdMcNTatianna 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I'm side eyeing all over this thread.

      [–]warriorholmes 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Me too, girl. They must feel oppressed.

      [–]Cocotapioka 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

      The struggle is real!

      [–]warriorholmes -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

      WHEN WILL IT END!?

      [–]warriorholmes -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Oh, wait...

      [–]edible_complexoh honey.. 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

      lol right? hey girl

      [–]warriorholmes 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Omg. Hey, you!

      [–]edible_complexoh honey.. 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Haha I'm glad I see someone I know from somewhere else. This community is such a cesspool for bad opinions, transphobia, racism, and just missing the point. I'm so love to hate with it I liiiiiiiive does a death drop for mama ru then proclaims my hatred for laganja even though she's a mirror image of this subreddit

      [–]hamoboyPaleho did nothing wrong! -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes! Laganja embodies a lot of the negative things about this subreddit.

      [–]Cocotapioka 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      hey homie!

      [–]warriorholmes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Sup homes!

      [–]howdoiturnthisonNow Available on iTunes 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Is Australian considered ethnic?

      yeah Manilla, it is. Technically we all are. I think what you are looking for is ethnic minority

      [–]AngelaVisaliaKisses and Anal 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      no shame here I'm all into SJ stuff but this is just....what? Like I don't even agree with what she's trying to say but I'd be able to at least say "okay gurl I see you" if it at least sounded thought out and like she knew what she was talking about, gurl bye

      [–][deleted] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I saw this too. WTF? I love Manila. She must be drunk or something, because the eliminations had nothing to do with race. Hell, the first 2 to go home were white!

      [–]badgerspriteWhat Did I Do That Was Un-Christian? 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

      She's just mad that Gia got kicked off because now she can't do a Japanese stereotype to make fun of her on YT. =P Nah, I really don't know what Manila is making a fuss about, apart from maybe the fact that the cast isn't as ~diverse~ as it was in Season 3, but ffs the show is run by a gay black man, lmao!

      I highly doubt Ru is racist against like his own race.

      [–]hambuddyRoxxxy Andrews 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

      i don't necessarily agree with what manila is saying( i believe this is her way of saying laganja should've left instead of gia), but rupaul has been far removed from the black community for a while... from defending black face, to excusing madonna for using the n-word

      i don't even blame ru, he wants that white money, it's whatever

      [–]badgerspriteWhat Did I Do That Was Un-Christian? 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I suppose. Ru certainly isn't the most racially sensitive person in the world.

      I guess I was just thinking in terms of the irony that people have gone from saying, "Ru only lets black people win because black favouritism," to "Ru is filling the cast with white people so only white people can win because racism."

      [–]hamoboyPaleho did nothing wrong! 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I wouldn't say Ru is anti-black/minority or anything, but there are literally thousands of black queens working in the USA, surely they can find more than one or two token black queens? And sometimes the fanbase makes it obvious they are extremely white, like when people came for Coco last season for not knowing who Little Edie was, and wanting to revoke her gay card, I was like, hunties, that's white gay culture, Coco comes from a different set of references. And people bitching about Tyra and Trinity loving Beyonce. Beyonce is huge with young black women and gay men, it is what it is, appreciate a different set of references.

      [–]badgerspriteWhat Did I Do That Was Un-Christian? 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I absolutely agree with all of this. And I do think the show has gotten less diverse from about season four onwards, since before then they had very diverse casts, and I would like to see a swing back in that direction.

      I just find it funny that a show that made such a concerted effort to be diverse in its first few seasons (to the point where white people complained that it was anti-white) is now being accused of racism. I really don't get the impression that the people at WOW are looking at the audition tapes saying shit like, "Oh, no, we can't have this queen be on our season because we already have a black girl/Asian girl/Latin girl on our cast."

      And I would tell you if I thought that was happening, because I know it really does happen IRL.

      [–]Cocotapioka 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      And sometimes the fanbase makes it obvious they are extremely white, like when people came for Coco last season for not knowing who Little Edie was, and wanting to revoke her gay card, I was like, hunties, that's white gay culture, Coco comes from a different set of references.

      I think this is a great point. Whenever a queen misses a reference, it is treated as a huge deal, but I think the importance of cultural-specific references is huge. I think the same could be said for Gia.

      [–][deleted] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Classy

      [–]muffin_sangriaSo I'm like a coloring book, even a child could read me 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I did think it was odd how in the Scream Queens challenge the two picked last for teams were Trinity and Vivacious.

      I was curious to see more from Vivacious (hear more of her background, see more of her outfits), but I don't think it was wrong for her to have been sent home when she was.

      [–]norwegiantranslator 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I did think it was odd how in the Scream Queens challenge the two picked last for teams were Trinity and Vivacious.

      Maybe because they have the charisma of a chalkboard.

      [–]hamoboyPaleho did nothing wrong! 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Trinity is certainly not that. She just shows her charisma in different ways, she's not vamping around the workroom like Lasagna, or throwing shade left and right like Bianca, but she definitely has charisma. She couldn't have delivered that lipsync that sent April packing and this subreddit crying if it she didn't have it. She was never really bad at the acting and singing challenges, she just thought she was. Try watching the performances without watching the parts of the episode after the mini challenge. It's surprising how the prep time footage and story lines can affect your perception of queens' performances.

      [–]2DeluxeDry like your vagina. -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This is maybe the flimsiest attempt at manufactured racism I've ever read.

      [–]TschaetTatianna 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      So many issues with this. 3 of the past winners have been PoC and 6 of the 14 queens from this season are PoC...and three of them are still in the running.

      [–]blogginglifeKatya Zamolodchikova 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Why is she being such a booger on her Facebook with commentary? Girl, these are your new sisters!

      The first two to get kicked off are white. And why the fuck is she questioning Bianca's ethnicity? Wasn't she offended on her season when Shangela questioned her?

      [–]Cocotapioka 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I think the Bianca part was a joke. The Shangela thing was a different animal - IIRC, Shangela didn't question Manila's ethnic background, she questioned if it was kosher for her to use particular Asian stereotypes, even as an Asian person, when she wasn't that specific ethnicity (she was using a stereotypical Chinese accent she's Filipino, IIRC).

      [–]blogginglifeKatya Zamolodchikova 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      didn't she say soething like "She's not even Asian!" though?

      [–]Cocotapioka 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'd have to watch again, but I distinctly recall it being about the fact that Manila was not Chinese, not that Manila wasn't Asian. It makes a bit more sense that way, because Raja defended Manila by saying they were all (meaning she and Manila) subject to the same Asian slurs regardless of their actual ethnicity.

      [–]g-dragon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      even if every single contestant was soandso race, why would it matter?

      it's one thing to want diversity, but someone's race, white or not, shouldn't keep you from enjoying the show.

      [–]jskjskwide and sassy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      As we all suspected, Manila is the face behind HellNoRacistDrag.

      [–]heychriskAriel Italic 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Guys, this is almost definitely a joke. Like, do you really think Manila only supports contestants of color? Really really? Or that she doesn't know whether Australians are considered white? Come on. Trust me, as an actual SJW, this ain't SJW behavior. (Also, people who are serious about discussing race don't call others "ethnic.") Are there enough G's for everyone here to get five?

      [–]paleho -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Nobody called Manilla an SJW. She just needs to sober up.

      You also need to actually READ her Facebook and subsequent posts instead of making excuses for her because she was and is 100% serious.

      Maybe she failed statistics in college. The POC demographic actually does represent the US census. (IF it matters).

      [–]heychriskAriel Italic 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I did read the rest. Her literal wording: "For some reason I'm just kinda disappointed, that's all I'm saying." I'm not suggesting that there's no truth to her post, I just think that people are taking this deadly seriously, and it's a Facebook comment about a televised drag competition. When Manila says, "gosh, we should start killing white people so that we can finally have an Asian majority," then I'll be worried. A vague sense of unease that a person of color got eliminated from a reality show, phrased in what to me sounds like a lighthearted and satirical manner, just isn't enough for me to get riled up about.

      [–]hamoboyPaleho did nothing wrong! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Maybe she'll pull a Sharon Needles and say someone hacked her page? I mean, if it worked for Sharon the first few times...

      [–]2DeluxeDry like your vagina. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Does one have to have gone to college to understand "a room of 14 people" numbers?

      [–]TheeOmegaPiDetox Icunt 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Failed punchline on race as a whole. Oh well.

      Oh, and for those of you that forgot:

      Bebe (Black), Tyra (Black), Raja (Malaysian), Sharon (White), Jinkx (White), Bianca (Latina)

      I think we're good here, ladies. Let's move along.

      [–]josiahpapayaI had a rough childhood okay, I wasn't watchin fuck'n batman 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Raja's Indonesian.

      [–]TheeOmegaPiDetox Icunt 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

      My b, girl :/

      [–]josiahpapayaI had a rough childhood okay, I wasn't watchin fuck'n batman 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

      It's okay, they all look the same.
      I'M KIDDING, IM KIDDDDDINGGGG.

      [–]askaelBob the Drag Queen 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

      cue the sound effect they used every time someone threw shade

      [–]2DeluxeDry like your vagina. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      *ssshhaaaaaaa! *

      [–]TheeOmegaPiDetox Icunt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      HAH there we go. The Bianca humor has permeated this thread, like gas! It's full of it, full of it!

      [–]iateyourbeesAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      question- what nationality is Bianca? anyone know?

      [–]nickbeilerTatianna 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I believe she is Cuban.

      [–]Unnie55Katya Zamolodchikova 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      And Honduran.

      [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      its almost like shes never seen the show

      [–]blogginglifeKatya Zamolodchikova -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes, Manila. RUPAUL, a pioneer for black drag queens and drag queens period, is being racist in his eliminations. 5 Gs, girls.

      [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Is she serious? What about Tyra, and Raja? I hope shes kidding...

      [–][deleted] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Oh no! Looks like the SJW warriors of the subreddit will have to hammer at Sharon AND Manila!

      [–]josiahpapayaI had a rough childhood okay, I wasn't watchin fuck'n batman -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Affirmative Action for reality TV.

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        [–]kris10leighAlyssa Edwards 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        + All Stars.