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Manila says she's not being shady... (facebook.com)

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[–]gbinasiaDetox Icunt 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

Usually Kickstarters and stuff like that have a system in place where you get a service or a product in exchange for your donation, so it's not really a handout. I can understand why she feels this way though since Willam's kickstarter for the Beatdown reached 5x its goal...

[–]BrooshDetox Icunt 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Willam's kickstarter for the Beatdown reached 5x its goal...

We get extra content, though? It's like we're getting two seasons of Beatdown instead of 1, and Willam gives you things in exchange of donating stuff.

[–]gbinasiaDetox Icunt 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, but I guess the problem is that he was asking 10 000$ for a whole season, and then 3000$ for additional episodes. The maths don't really add up, which is why I think Manila has that opinion. Not that I care. I'm all for more Beatdown!

[–]draumbokDiscover the fountain of eternal T. 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

New kickstarter to raise 100,000 $ to pay Alyssa Edwards to finally tell us what her goddamn secret is.

[–]follyj 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's 9 inches and fully functional

[–]heyitzhenny 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

she's sitting on it

[–]collyblomAlaska Thunderfuck 5000[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does it mean we get more episodes of Alyssa's Secret?

[–]RisqueBlockRuPaul 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

From the person who has a "song" they perform every live show literally begging people to buy $20 T-Shirts on stage? No.

[–]Sparrow8907HAUS OF DOLEZAL! 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right? Wanna talk about desperate and tacky.

Gur, bye.

[–]shadyshortieAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS! Oh my God. Exactly!

[–]jexyjonas 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

But she had a whole number on BOTS based around begging for money? In both cases you get something worth your money, why so bitter

[–]BrooshDetox Icunt 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I ain't giving these out, the song says buy my tshirt!"

I remember this during her tour, and thinking what a great gimmick!

[–]mom4presidentKim Chi & Derrick Barry 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think these are PERSONAL attacks and they ain't cute. Have you seen the goodies from Courtney Act's Kickstarter? And she's delivering good music (Sam Sparro is AWESOME). If people think she deserves it, so be it. She'll reach the goal and i'll be the first to stand up for ovations.

She's been shady to the AA Girls (which features Willam and Courtney), so I think there's something going on.

And i'm sorry, Manila. Courtney and Willam's voice and performances are like 1919281928192810281x better than yours. I really root for your success, but why so bitter?

[–]NyxiaKim Chi 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's all I see from her these days. Literally last 3 posts of hers that I've noticed on social media was her drawing Pearl, Violet and Fame looking pissed off and writing 'smile' underneath to be shady (which Violet then reposted on her wall saying Manila drew some new fanart LOL), then her trying to come for Mimi Imfurst and now this. I used to live for Manila but she's making it really hard to like her these days, sadly.

[–]DarcyMcCarbombAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow. Comparing fundraising to cover funeral costs to "Give me money, because I want it!" is pretty gross.

[–][deleted] 38ポイント39ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who fucking cares? I don't get this attitude. If an artist wants to ask their fans to help out with a project, and the fans are happy to do it, why is that anyone else's business? It just comes off as bitter because no one is giving you money - which they probably would if you just asked. Closed mouths don't get fed!

[–]notbarneyandfriendsAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't ask for handouts*

*Literally wrote a song called "buy my t shirt" and gets audience members to buy her shirt during it while she performs

Is her BOTS act really any different than a kickstarter? Both things ask for money and the fan gets something in return, in her case its a shirt and in Willam and Courtney's case it's cool rewards that fans would enjoy?

[–]FauxlenciagaMoo with me 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both things ask for money and the fan gets something in return, in her case its a shirt and in Willam and Courtney's case it's cool rewards that fans would enjoy?

Exactly! And in addition to multiple rewards for your donation you get the finished product of Willam's Beatdown and Courtney's EP. It's not a handout by any means, it's paying for a service you enjoy.

[–]madame_hussainBob the Drag Queen 8ポイント9ポイント  (23子コメント)

Is the paegent thing about alexis ?

And what about the video and pizza ? Whos she talking about ?

[–]pinocchihoeTatianna 22ポイント23ポイント  (8子コメント)

Did Adore try to fund her dinner or something?

[–]madame_hussainBob the Drag Queen 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol could be

[–]diogousamiAnus 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

recording a EP costs around 5k (with average production) asking for 20k is too much. Adore went off drag race and released a full lenght album (and is recording a new one) without begging anyone to give her dollars.

[–]pinocchihoeTatianna 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was making a joke about the pizza lol, but ok.

[–]diogousamiAnus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

oh sorry kitty girl, I was trying to make a serious point. (love me some pizza tho [party])

[–]sighcologyDetox Icunt 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

she's also recording music videos and she worked with higher profile producers on this

[–]diogousamiAnus 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

"higher profile" gia gunn sideeye

[–]sighcologyDetox Icunt 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

jake shears and sam sparro are high respected, extremely successful musicians/producers. they are very high profile and as such, cost more money to work with

[–]yojohnny_Bob the Drag Queen 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Video is about Willam's Beatdown

[–]imsofluffypaleho's paleho 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought it was about Courtney's EP

[–]yojohnny_Bob the Drag Queen 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure she's addressing all of them plus Alexis's pageant.

[–]blacktieaffair...okay, work... 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

The pizza thing is referring to the whole religious freedom debacle, in which one of the first places to say they will not serve gay weddings due to their religious beliefs was an Indiana pizza place (thereby losing out on the multimillion dollar industry that is pizza catering to gay weddings rite?), long story short they got told to sit down, a bunch of homophobes and "people who genuinely just care about religious freedom" donated thousands of dollars to them in a kickstarter. (And in return, a bunch of other people started #Pizza4Equality to raise cash for homeless LGBT youth).

[–]AvieLikesThis 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

bunch of homophobes and "people who genuinely just care about religious freedom" donated thousands of dollars to them in a kickstarter.

It ended up being $800K +. I'm ashamed that people gave damn near a million dollars to that crap. And what did they do? Give some to cops and firefighters, and another store who won't wait on LGBT people.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/heres-embattled-owners-memories-pizza-plan-share-newfound-fortune/

[–]madame_hussainBob the Drag Queen 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks , but is she throwing shade at the homophobes or #pizza4equality ? I hope its not the latter

[–]blacktieaffair...okay, work... 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm thinking it's the homophobes because of the "for christians" part.

[–]arathergenericgayYou ever been ball fucked? 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

pizza for Christians I assume refers to the $190k raised for a pizzeria on GoFundMe who said they wouldn't serve gay people under Indiana's new religious protection laws after everyone boycott them

[–]AvieLikesThis 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

It ended up being $800k +. http://www.westernjournalism.com/heres-embattled-owners-memories-pizza-plan-share-newfound-fortune/

[–]arathergenericgayYou ever been ball fucked? 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

between this and the comments on that article...¡ay dios mio!

[–]AvieLikesThis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know, right?

[–]jv1503Adore Delano 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hate gay Mexicans. If the came to my imaginary taco stand wanting catering for their gay wedding, I would say not. Jesus don't like the homos. Now, give me $800K. /s Seriously though, I would throw everyone under bus for that kind of coin.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lmao same. Sorry siblings but I have successfully prayed away the gay and am ready to fight for Jesus!

[–]QuinctiaKatya Zamolodchikova 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder if the pizza thing is about the pizza shop running a gofundme after they made the mistake of talking to a newspaper reporter about how they'd never cater a gay wedding because it's against their religion, and they (surprise!) got backlash.

The stupidest part of it is...who's really gonna ask a pizza joint to cater their wedding?

[–]danileighRobbie Turner 25ポイント26ポイント  (6子コメント)

"Usually I work for my money and don't ask for handouts." Even her I'm not being shady is shady.

In the words of Willam, "Shadyyy Shaaadeeeee."

[–]nivoraRupaul 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

In the words of Willam, "Shadyyy Shaaadeeeee."

know your goddamn HERSTORY

[–]phedreShangela? 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Teaching the children!

[–]nivoraRupaul 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES GAWD! tongue pop

[–]danileighRobbie Turner 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

My bad. I quoted it from Willam's song because Manila was talking about Willam.

[–]craykneeummGinger Minj 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

Came here to quote this. Girl. You're a drag queen. People literally HAND OUT dollar bills to you while you're on stage. What the fuck?

[–]WaaChan 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well that IS called working

[–]craykneeummGinger Minj 42ポイント43ポイント  (7子コメント)

I paid upfront for the studio time, the producers, the legal fees, the video directors, costumes, wigs, dancers and all the other things that go into creating my silly auto-tuned songs and music videos. All I'm asking is should I just have you all pay for it instead?

She should ask for a refund.

[–]the_mock_turtleKatya Zamolodchikova 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

THE LIBRARY IS OPEN.

[–]kishhyyAlyssa Edwards 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just about lost my life gur.

[–]jaydensapphirei mean, I'll wait. 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

HOLY SHIT

[–]pukerockamy dunne of drag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

OMFG

[–]nonailsnodragTatianna 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

okay Santino. ;) "you overpaid!!!"

[–]BrooshDetox Icunt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As Dorian Corey states: "Honey, that's not a read that's a fact."

[–]heyitzhenny 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

YASSSS BITCH DRAG HA ASS!!! MAKE HA CRY!!

[–]agentsometimeHenny 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, what's it to her? What's it to anyone? Just mind ya bidness. Anyone who donates is donating willingly, that's not her problem.

[–]madame_hussainBob the Drag Queen 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

What does she think about Bianca asking for donations for her movie !!

She is the only queen who have been collecting donations before and after drag race !!

Would she dare throw shade at her ???

[–]RisqueBlockRuPaul 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Living for the fact that queens tries to shade everyone but Bianca.

[–]kishhyyAlyssa Edwards 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone tag Bianca, I want to see this Really Queen episode.

[–]AvieLikesThis 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shouldn't Manila be working for World of Wonder, like Raja, Raven, Pandora, or Alyssa Edwards? Maybe put out another album?

Drag queens work for whatever money people feel like giving them. Manila suddenly making an issue of it smacks of jealousy. After all, I'm not sure if I'd watch Manila's Beatdown, but I put my funds toward /u/willambelli's.

[–]NuWaveSpecial 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

Jinkx had a campaign to help fund Drag Becomes Her. That seemed reasonable. Nobody is forcing anyone to donate to anything. Now where I don't like kickstarter is when companies use it. Like the one to fund a Veronica Mars movie. I also even don't like the one with that Small Town Boy gay country/pop singer. He should have just gotten a record deal directly.

[–]vulture_coutureplease Dawn, it's Christmas 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bypassing labels is a thing that always deserves support.

[–]NuWaveSpecial 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rebecca Black would not agree.

[–]Hekerui 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't see a difference between Jinkx's movie and that guy's record. If anything, Jinkx probably has more money.

[–]NuWaveSpecial 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well last time I'd checked his album seemed like it would never come out and I'd read some people were frustrated. And it just did end of last month. I guess there's not much difference. Except the expense structure of albums vs movies are different. Jinkx probably does have more money I'd think but maybe the documentary producers don't. Also there is probably more money is selling music than in shuttling a documentary around to film festivals.

[–]pukerockamy dunne of drag 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

i hadn't finished reading all of /u/NuWaveSpecial's comment when i read yours so i assumed when you said "that guy's record" you were shadily referring to courtney omg

[–]Hekerui 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha!

[–]pedrobrandaoTatianna 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

just cause someone is more privelaged and has someone that will auto tune their music for them doesn't mean they should throw shade in a nasty way...

SHADE

[–]nonailsnodragTatianna 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have cared about certain kickstarters/gofundmes that involved deceitfulness like this person my friend knows that was asking for money for surgery for her mother to save her life-when in reality her mother was already dead and buried and she just was trying to milk money out of people and created the gofundme after her mother already died.

That kind of shenanigans is trifling. My friend reported her.

But if she is referring to say Alexis who was up front about what the money was to be used for and will use it for that purpose-then people are not being tricked into donating. They are doing so because they want to and that is hurting nobody.

[–]YoungQueen97It's true what you heard, I am a freak, I'm disturbed 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just like a "Heather" trying to act real cute...

[–]DarthDragBob the Drag Queen 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speaking of crowdfunding, whatever happened to that Tyra Sanchez documentary "Drag Dad"? Last I saw, some of the backers were ticked that they hadn't received their stuff and the film still hadn't been released.

[–]Culfin 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

She tweeted once about being able to do/wear (I forget) something because she's really a dude. I replied "Of course, anyone who wants to can, regardless of gender. Love your work! X. =)" (or words to that effect, it was definitely light hearted with no shade) and she went IN on me. Really nasty and unwarranted response about how she could point out all my faults etc. Everyone who saw her response were shocked. She lost a fan that day.

[–]TschaetTatianna 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Manilla's ass needs to have several seats. The more she voices her opinion post-RPDR, the less I like her. Why the fuck does it concern her? I really don't get this attitude. It's not as if you have to support the Kickstarter. Don't like the project or don't agree with using it for these purposes? Then don't donate to that project or give it more promotion.

I mean, good for her for using her money to produce her own music. I mean, given how awful her music is, I'd say it was a complete waste, but good for her. She's welcome to use Kickstarter herself to fund future music projects, but first she'll need to show she has some actual singing talent or songwriting talent before I put any money behind that.

[–]OvernightSirenRoxxxy Andrews 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Scroll down just a liiittle bit.

[–]Allura111 5ポイント6ポイント  (15子コメント)

Agree and disagree. If you have a strong record of producing great entertainment/art that nearly always costs to invest in, and you happen to be low on cash but brimming with ideas, go for it.

But when people like courtney act wants 60k to do an album, we know 45k of that money is going to her bank. And willam 20k to make a web-series with a cameraman and some green screen editing. #toomuch.

But some genuiney needs the cash to make their ideas come to fruition, like trinity k bonet and alexis mateo, with relatively low asking demand such as 2k. Much more respectable in my opinion. Cause you know all of those 2k are going in the right place and where fans expect them to go.

[–]BrooshDetox Icunt 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

But when people like courtney act wants 60k to do an album

Wasn't her kickstarter asking for $20k? And if you 'donated' $10 you got the album? I don't think that's unfair.

[–]tiffylicious 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

I don't know, I think Willam could increase production value greatly with the kickstarter funds.

[–]Allura111 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

Dont like willam... Its like high-school humor, willam:" that girl is so weird, lolz, look at her! Fucking weird as fuck!" Hahaha?

Willam:"Now lets look at this faggot, lol! He is so fucking gay, prancing his arms around! Look at that fag. Next!" Also, am i supposed to laugh?

I personally dont need high production values for that. Found it kinda funny and the jokes were actually good when he had the stylish vids team behind him... But on his own channel... No...

Im much more of a fame boy myself :---) taking his tacky hashtags to heart ;---D #kindnessiscool!

[–]tiffylicious 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

He could always take the money and run...

Straight to the finest facial laser hair removal specialist in Guadalupe.

[–]Allura111 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just thought a bit about it, and i can see the 20k being justified in willams mind. 3k for louis vuittons, 11k for new outfits. 6k for productions.

Or he can do like pearl/max and look for cheaper clothes and making them high couture and beautiful without being so stuck on labels.

[–]EltoshenAdore Delano[🍰] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

and people say manila is bitter...

[–]shadyshortieAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The expression is "Just do you." Not "Just do what other people do." Willam likes designer clothing. Who cares? And as someone who contributed to his kickstarter, I would assume that some of it will go to some new clothing. Because every show needs a wardrobe, and I love seeing what he decides to wear each week.

[–]sharkimusTHIS IS MY HAIRRRRRRrrrr. 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's basically just buying the album in advance, in order to make it possible to make the album in the first place.

And what's wrong with Courtney making a profit off her album if her backers are satisfied with what they got for their $10? This is her job and she's got bills to pay, too.

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is just it! Some of these comments are coming off like the queens should be doing this for charity and any money they are putting in their pockets at the end is basically blood diamonds. At the end of the day, no matter how much the queens are loving their job, that's exactly what it is, and we all wanna get paid for our work.

[–]sharkimusTHIS IS MY HAIRRRRRRrrrr. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a pretty common and unfortunate attitude towards people in artistic professions in general. But the art doesn't come if all your time and energy is going into a 9 to 5. Musicians, graphic designers, etc. are asked to work for free all the time because it's "fun."

[–]shadyshortieAlaska Thunderfuck 5000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Know what you're worth and demand 3x as much. :D

[–]sighcologyDetox Icunt -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

you really think that courtney is that kind of person?

[–]dotcottonbranning 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was super shady - but it was also a joke, and one that made me chuckle! People need to chill.

[–]nikkysan 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

ITT: People who didn't scroll down to read the comments and see that Manila was just joking.

[–]sharkimusTHIS IS MY HAIRRRRRRrrrr. 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gurl. That was a cup of bitters with a ...........j/k........... attached.

[–]RadhraDetox Icunt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, so bitter. And I remember she has always been this bitter in the show, right? Great fashion can wash away the bitterness quite a bit for us, I guess.

[–]kidshitNaomi Smalls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who?

[–]heyitzhenny 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh god, Manila please. you look so tacky making this post. i love you but come on. Courtney and Willam actually can sing and you need fucking auto tune. you literally make a new video every month and NO ONE CARES which is why you feel the need to plug and exploit the shit out of it on social media to get attention. stick to lip-syncing and stop trying to make music.