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This subreddit is a place to both mock and refute the ideas of subreddits that exist solely to propagate bigotry towards a certain race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and the like. A fuller definition of both hate subreddits and our purpose, as well as a list of notable hate groups on Reddit, can be found here. More information about our purpose can be found in our FAQ. Troll subreddits and subreddits whose purpose is not explicit hatred will not be considered hate subreddits and links to both will be removed.

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Part of our mission is to get moderators to step up, because it is ultimately them who decide if their community is going to be a hate community or not. If this has no hope of happening, as is often the case with smaller subs, we want to pressure the admins to act. Obviously they aren't going to quarantine or ban a default sub and since it's not our primary goal anyways, we regularly make an exception for defaults, when hateful comments are up-voted and left there by the mods.

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Why isn't /r/fatlogic considered a Hate sub ? (self.AgainstHateSubreddits)

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They are posting random pictures of strangers and fat shaming them. Basically, it's FPH 2.0. Even worse some times.

There's little to no mention at all of /r/fatlogic in here. I found only three threads about it, one of them basically doesn't consider /r/fatlogic as a hate sub:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/3eyu6g/dear_ragainsthatesubreddits_i_need_your_help/

I know /r/fatlogic has some rules about removing slurs and in that year old thread they said they removed hate posts, maybe that has changed since last year ? Anyway, I see those rules as excuses to get heat off them. They do a lot of tokenism too, since they let people post progress pics, but only if they shame themselves.

Anyway, I really hope the lack of attention to /r/fatlogic isn't because of that. Being Obese doesn't excuse you to be fatphobic. As being POC doesn't excuse you to be racist or being Gay doesn't excuse you to be homophobic.

It doesn't matter if these people posting progress pics find it a benefit to them being fatphobic. Wtf is going on with that line of thinking anyway, you need to harm and offend other people in order to do good stuff to yourself ? Jesus. That's fucked up.

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