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Daley Blind in 2016/17:100% tackles won; 100% aerial duels won; 17 clearances; 7 interceptions; 0 fouls. Perfection. (twitter.com)
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[–]MattWix 138ポイント139ポイント140ポイント 1日前 (5子コメント)
The sexy Dutch bastard
[–]sirwolfeyeCarrick 94ポイント95ポイント96ポイント 23時間前 (1子コメント)
Love is Blind
[–]TylerGuest1 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
Get out
[–]_thedarkknight 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 23時間前 (2子コメント)
With a super hot girlfriend, too.
Blind is good at everything.
[–]rogues69Martial 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
He defends and he scores
[–]bhfanatic15 114ポイント115ポイント116ポイント 1日前 (34子コメント)
Though id like to see a Bailly-Smalling partnership, Blind is undroppable atm
[–]mattboys3 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 23時間前 (30子コメント)
Would love to see Blind play CDM instead of Fellaini, that way we can have Bailly & Smalling as CBs.
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 23時間前 (24子コメント)
Would love to see Blind play CDM instead of Fellaini,
No thanks. Fellaini brings exactly what Blind doesn't. Would completely ruin the balance we have in midfield.
Why are people so desperate to see Blind in midfield? We played him there, he was crap, he's been far better at CB than he ever was in midfield or LB, I really don't get it.
The only time Blind has ever done well in midfield is in the Eridivisie. He's never played well there in the PL or internationally.
[–]mattboys3 39ポイント40ポイント41ポイント 22時間前 (13子コメント)
Let me elaborate on why I believe Blind is a good fit at CDM (not trying to make this an anti-Fellaini argument, but since he'd replace Fellaini I have to address it). * Blind is intelligent, reads the game well, intercepts passes, has great vision to advance the ball forward, is calm under pressure with the ball, and has a great understanding of how different defensive positions should be played (playing most of them himself). These are qualities that fit CDMs well * With Smalling & Bailly behind him and Pogba as his partner, there is plenty of size and physicality to offset losing height with Fellaini out. But now we are positioned well against teams with a physical striker (seemingly the only weakness of Blind). * Blind excelled at CDM in previous clubs, this was his preferred position. Yes his experience with Man U at CDM isn't great, but that's during a very dark stretch of Man U, who played well during that time? Everyone looked poor. So I don't think that argument applies to today's squad, form, and managerial tactics. *Blind is quicker than Fellaini, reads the game better, can play more dangerous balls forward, and poses less of a risk of getting fouls/cards as well as making a terrible defensive mistake. The only thing we lose is height, but with Smalling, Bailly & Pogba and the areal duel record of Blind, I think this is insignificant.
A general note about Fellaini exposing my personal bias against him- our standards for Fellaini feel low. If he wins a few duels, chests a couple balls down, intercepts a pass and doesn't completely fu*k up (he's responsible for giving away 1-2 goals this year), we think he did a fantastic job. His best game is average if we're being honest. Everyone else is held to such higher standards. Just my personal opinion and bias.
[–]ZachMichSchweinsteiger 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 20時間前 (5子コメント)
I would like to see Blind in midfield at some point as well but he isn't faster than Fellaini. It's been said a few times that he's the slowest player in the squad
[–]ManchesterUtd 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19時間前 (1子コメント)
Not arguing with you, just pointing oit that quicker could mean faster within a short span of space. For examale of someone quick but not as fast (though still above average) speed is prime torres. An example of the opposite is Rooney who has had one of the top speeds of all our players, but he is not quick so he looks slow. (I'm not saying that blind is quicker than fellaini, I'm just pointing out the difference between quick and fast)
[–]ZachMichSchweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19時間前 (0子コメント)
I know there's a difference but I saw an interview where Rooney said Blind was the slowest player in the squad, I think it's been mentioned by someone else as well. He didn't specify whether he meant acceleration or top speed but he made the distinction when talking about Shaw saying he was really fast "when he got going". So i'm inclined to think he meant just slow overall
[–]mattboys3 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20時間前 (2子コメント)
I'd not heard that before. That's interesting. I still like to think he covers ground more efficiently than Fellaini then because of his awareness, thus the end result is that he's where he needs to be before Fellaini.
[–]ZachMichSchweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-toe-poke/65/post/2917196/wayne-rooney-daley-blind-is-manchester-uniteds-slowest-player
[+]fakeplasticairbagKeane スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19ポイント-18ポイント-17ポイント 22時間前 (6子コメント)
Let me elaborate on why I believe Blind is a good fit at CDM (not trying to make this an anti-Fellaini argument, but since he'd replace Fellaini I have to address it). * Blind is intelligent, reads the game well, intercepts passes, has great vision to advance the ball forward, is calm under pressure with the ball, and has a great understanding of how different defensive positions should be played (playing most of them himself). These are qualities that fit CDMs well * With Smalling & Bailly behind him and Pogba as his partner, there is plenty of size and physicality to offset losing height with Fellaini out. But now we are positioned well against teams with a physical striker (seemingly the only weakness of Blind). * Blind excelled at CDM in previous clubs, this was his preferred position.
All that is just mindless bullshit though.
Anyone cost list words, adjectives and superlatives on a page, it's completely meaningless in the of actual real life evidence of what Blind playing CDM in the PL looked like and we saw plenty of it and it wasn't good at all, it was actually really bad.
So it doesn't matter what qualities you think Blind has what matters is how he actually played on a real life football field.
It's the same for Rooney. People for years have been saying Rooney works hard, passes well, tackles well, has great stamina etc... so therefore he'll be great in midfield.
And it makes perfect sense on paper, but when you actually see it on a real life football field he's anywhere from dog shit to mediocre.
And that's what really matters. Not words and qualities you think Rooney has that makes him good for CM. But real life evidence of what Rooney in CM is actually like on a real football field in real life games.
The same applies to Blind, it doesn't matter what qualities you think he has that mean he'd be good in midfield. We've seen 20+ games of it for United as well as for Holland where he was consistently nowhere near the standard and that's what really matters.
[–]mattboys3 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 22時間前 (4子コメント)
So in essence- I'm not allowed to use words to describe a player? Or make an argument? In addition, I'm not allowed to propose an argument for a hypothetical substitution unless we've SEEN it on the pitch before? I'm open to hearing your arguments for or against the swap of Fellaini vs Blind.. but not sure if your comment added anything to that. Lots about Rooney.. and about Blind on other squads and not with this current team...
[+]fakeplasticairbagKeane スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25ポイント-24ポイント-23ポイント 22時間前 (3子コメント)
So in essence- I'm not allowed to use words to describe a player? Or make an argument?
Not when there's real life evidence no.
If I wanted to prove a hypothesis I wouldn't just be able to ignore clinical trials and pretend my mindless unproven speculation was better evidence because that would be stupid.
[–]mattboys3 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 21時間前 (0子コメント)
If you have video evidence of Blind playing CDM with Pogba as his partner and Bailly and Smalling behind them. I'd love to see it. I feel for your mindset of reason and logic.
[–]WRCousCousUnited 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 20時間前 (1子コメント)
Not wanting to get into the personal bit you two have going on, but I do have a serious question. In the season in which Blind was "terrible" in the CDM position, wasn't it the considered opinion of folks here that Fellaini was also terrible when played at CDM? I don't have any way to know whether Blind would play at the level Fellaini has in the last three games if subbed for him in the position under Mourinho's leadership. But, then again, if you'd asked before this season started whether any subscribers of this sub would want Fellaini played at CDM, what would the answer have been?
[–]TsjuppKEEEANO'S FUCKIN' MAGIC 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19時間前 (0子コメント)
Its alot easier to make a list over the ones that played decently or well that season tbh. I can only think of one.
I still hope Schneiderlin climbs back into the level he had in Southampton, and grabs the cdm-spot. Having two vacuumcleaners in a row with him and Blind behind would make it hell for opponents to play the ball through at all.
[–]ParkerZAYoung 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
I don't remember him being crap at CDM, he did fine. Played well against Everton if I'm remembering correctly, though he hardly had a game there. Don't think it's fair to say he's not a good CDM, the only chance he's had was in his first season in a new league, when he was undoubtedly still adjusting to the PL.
Though it's irrelevant either way, looks like he's a permanent CB now, and it's probably his best position.
[–]reddit_no_likeyA new dawn is coming... 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 16時間前 (2子コメント)
To add to what Mattboys3 already wrote and something to think about...
A lot of what can be said negatively about Blind could in most cases be said about Carrick as well, but we all know that Michael brings a slew of other attributes to the midfield that Fellaini doesn't (and vice versa.) I think the reason why a lot of folks want to see Blind in the midfield is because theoretically Blind could be Carrick's successor. Imagine being able to play through the midfield like we've done in the past again?
Also with Fellaini in the midfield the setup you have is strong man in the backline, strong man (or men) in the midfield, and a strong man striker (Zlatan.) But a midfield with Blind means you have 2 strongmen in the defense (a virtual wall of sorts,) a playmaker in the midfield, and that striker that thrives on service. So the argument with Blind in the midfield means we put more resources into creating attacks from our midfield again, while being secure with the thought that our backline is holding things firm in defense (instead of just having big men all over the pitch.)
[–]SSienZRonaldo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 12時間前 (1子コメント)
While I agree that Blind is the closest to Carrick, that is precisely why I don't want him in midfield at the moment. I just don't think Carrick or Blind work as well with Pogba, so I only see them playing games where Pogba is rested / we are just holding off until the final whistle.
[–]reddit_no_likeyA new dawn is coming... 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
You could very well be right, however, I would still like to see Jose play around with different combinations to see how effective in different ways they can be. Also, I have a feeling that after the Feyenoord & Northhampton games we're going to be reminded of why these midfield players are worth giving a go.
There are many times when Fellaini is the right man for the job, but there will be certain times when a better option is available to us. And we're going to see more of that in the coming weeks.
[–]El_Giganto 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 16時間前 (0子コメント)
And at the back he was crap in the Eredivisie. Just a shit opinion all around.
[–]erfanPHard to believe it's not Scholes 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
By that logic we played Fellaini there too. He was crap. But he's stepped it up this season so far.
Blind has qualities that Fellaini doesn't and vice versa. Fellaini seems to be more Mou's kinda player though. He likes someone tall and physical in there. Like Matic in Chelsea.
[–]Poolooloo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
He wasn't crap in midfield. He looked good when playing next to Herrera. You just need a favorable pairing next to him and he'll shine.
Actually, Blind-Fellaini wouldn't be a bad pairing with Pogba in front.
[–]dededog 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
The best part of this reply is that it basically forced you of all people to defend Fellaini.
[–]wvufan44Pogba 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 22時間前 (1子コメント)
I don't think he was crap, we just never found a good partner for him.
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
He played with basically every CM we had.
[–]bhfanatic15 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 23時間前 (1子コメント)
Not sure thatd be so good. Blind wasnt exactly very good whenever he played cdm. Far too slow. At cb he has the whole pitch in front of him to pick out passes
[–]WRCousCousUnited 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
I understand your point, I really do. But Fellaini was also terrible when played at CDM by Moyes (did he play there under LVG at all?). In fact, before this season started, most people here couldn't wait for him to be offloaded (along with Rojo). Fellaini has been a revelation at CDM under Mourinho. How much of that is him and how much tactics, new training, etc.? I'm not sure we have a way to fairly judge how good Blind would be in the CDM position under Mourinho from his handful of games there under LVG.
[–]monsterm1dget 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19時間前 (2子コメント)
Fellaini plays as an entirely different kind of midfielder though.
If anything I'd like to see a midfield three with Blind, Fellaini and Pogba.
[–]mattboys3 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19時間前 (1子コメント)
What formation? Who would then be removed?
[–]monsterm1dget 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
433 without an AM, which would require Rooney to be benched.
[–]darcys_beardLe King 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
There's going to be plenty of opportunities for all three to play. Mourinho will set up against each opponent with a different gameplan requiring different personnel. Plus there's the ACON.
[–]ngs1989 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19時間前 (0子コメント)
I think bailly and smalling are the most interchangeable as the have a similar style. Blind is undroppable as you said.
[–]zeyadjamalPogba 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
It feels like the only way smalling can come back to the team is when Bailly goes to the AFCON
[–]6500s 40ポイント41ポイント42ポイント 1日前 (4子コメント)
Hey, it's a great situation that I feel bad for Smalling being benched after last season and his beast mode. For once, central defence is not our worry, it's been a while.
[–]rob1005Smalling 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
It's unfortunate, if he wasn't injured/banned at the start of the season it would be him starting but Blind is undroppable right now - it's a nice problem to have indeed!
[–]P-SAC 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
Ya, i think this sub has forgotten what it's like to have depth.
[–]ParkerZAYoung 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20時間前 (1子コメント)
To be fair Smalling's form did drop near the end.
[–]googly__mooglyShaw 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19時間前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, down to fatigue no doubt. He was probably intentionally given a long rest after being relied upon so heavily the last 2 seasons and at the Euro's. Bailly and Blind have been so good that he's been kept out after that.
[–]doniew 48ポイント49ポイント50ポイント 1日前 (10子コメント)
So much for everyone saying Mourinho would quickly move him on. He's got the brains to go with the brawn of Bailly/Smalling. Such a great passer of the ball to get the counter attacks started too. Really enjoyed watching him in the CB role
[–]girth_worm_jim 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
I thought he would go, i didnt want him to, but i just didnt think he was physical enough for Mourinho. Even Mourinho has surprised me, I wasnt too keen on him but he hasnt put a foot wrong really and him signings have all been great!
[–]doniew 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
Yeah I was worried Mourinho wouldn't appreciate what he has to offer but thankfully he gave him a fair chance to prove it, Mata too so far. His whole demeanor seems different from the other Joses we've seen, like he understands this isn't the club for managerial fuck-acting
[–]_thedarkknight 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 23時間前 (1子コメント)
Having King Woody being your right hand helps.
Jose gets very little interference if any on how to run the club.
[–]TheSpecialJuan96 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 23時間前 (4子コメント)
We'll have to see how the season progresses, especially once Smalling is healthy again. Blind is pretty much the antithesis of the Mourinho CB (which incidentally is exactly the Guardiola CB) in having great positioning, intelligence, composure on the ball and vision but lacking size, strength, physicality and presence in the air (all of which are traits Bailly and Smalling easily beat him out in).
So far this season Mourinho has shown a more attacking, possession based style (which suits Blind brilliantly) than his usual physical counter-attacking strategy. However it's only been 3 real games so I expect to see Mourinho revert more to type, especially against the bigger clubs, which would likely jeopardize Blind's place in the team.
[–]doniew 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 23時間前 (2子コメント)
I agree with everything here. Just hoping Blind continues to impress, I've really been impressed by his class & intelligence since he joined.
[–]TheSpecialJuan96 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 23時間前 (1子コメント)
Agreed. He provides a real element of class and composure at the back. I'd much rather Mourinho continue to play him and try to play it out from the back instead of benching him and trying to hoof it up the pitch all the time.
[–]doniew 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 23時間前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, he's played several quick passes from just outside the box to the middle of the opposition half (think a few were at Rooney & Martial mainly). He's the antithesis of the LVG way, just trying to bypass the midfield and move straight to the attacking 3rd. Whereas LVG would insist it travels safely that way between several others to ensure no possession lost.
He's great vision and accuracy, always remember the assist for RVP's goal against Spain. Such a deep cross and he placed it exceptionally
[–]Hackett06Ibrahimovic 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 18時間前 (0子コメント)
Smalling is healthy and fit already.
[–]Andy_Reds 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 21時間前 (0子コメント)
Blind is such an underrated player. One of my top three favorites at United. Very rarely have I seen someone with his composure and intelligence on the ball, he is such a joy to watch and his understanding of football makes me think he's going to mature into a legendary manager.
[–]peols90Martial 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
I'd seem to remember he lost the first aerial duel against Hull?
[–]combatwombat02Scholes 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
That's not pushing OP's agenda, shush
[–]PotatoMussab 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 1日前 (19子コメント)
I really really really want to see Blind in the CDM role though. We can use his full potential there. There isn't much passing to do at CB. At CDM he's closer to the attack.
Not saying he's bad at CB, but would like to see him at CDM. I understand the reason he's at CB.
[–]MorningFresh123Martial 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
He's also under a lot more pressure at CDM to get rid of the ball quickly. Being at CB allows him to survey the field and take his time on the ball.
[–]rogues69Martial 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
Depends on who you pair him with.
[–]Capedcrusader0 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
I think we have better options at CDM. Blind will plays CB well and should continue to play there as seen by his form
[–]mattboys3 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 23時間前 (2子コメント)
Can you expand on who are the better options at CDM?
[–]arnm7890De Gea 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 22時間前 (1子コメント)
Schneiderlin, Fellaini, Carrick (although Carrick would play as more of a deep-lying playmaker, which is a role Blind can do well)
[–]mattboys3 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
Love Schneiderlin there, Carrick (of course but he's aging and getting slower), and would like to see Blind over Fellaini. That way we can have Smalling on the pitch as well as Blind- both very good players.
[–]Patoromia -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 23時間前 (4子コメント)
He's a cb through and through now. Even at the national level.
[–]Jonaguti 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 21時間前 (3子コメント)
I think he just played at left back with Netherlands no?
[–]Patoromia 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 21時間前 (2子コメント)
The game before he was a cb
[–]LucaRiolu493Blind 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13時間前 (1子コメント)
Kind of undermines the 'through and through' part of your original comment though
[–]Patoromia 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 12時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm just saying, he's done a full Macherano, sure he's a good cdm but he's also a hell of a cb.
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 22時間前 (7子コメント)
I really really really want to see Blind in the CDM role thoug
Why? When has he ever played well there? He was awful for us in midfield in LVG's first season and has never done well for Holland there either. The only time he did well in midfield was in the lowly Eridivisie.
In the PL and internationally he's been far better at CB than in midfield or LB. Why are people so desperate to see him play in a position he's continuously failed in? He's just clearly a better CB than he is a midfielder.
[–]ryisca 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 18時間前 (0子コメント)
Continuously failed in?
He was dutch player of the year at CDM, he wasn't moved out of CDM internationally because he "failed" there, it's where LVG preferred him with the personnel he had to play the 3-5-2.
And when it comes to United, he played as a pivot in LVG's first year, when we had a defensive line like swiss cheese and an attacking midfield that was all out of sorts trying a 3-5-2 with wingbacks in the premier league. He had the hardest job on the field. Not even the world's best pivots could stop that. If you play him as a CDM in a 433 with Pogba and Fellaini (or Rooney or Herrera) off of him, I bet we would absolutely boss knowing Smalling and Bailly are sitting right behind him.
[–]HungarianSandwichWalking in Memphis 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 19時間前 (1子コメント)
I think you're forgetting the game against QPR in LVG's first season. He absolutely bossed the midfield and got some major recognition in the CDM role then. That's just the first example I can think of but Blind plays well in midfield and it's his original position.
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 19時間前 (0子コメント)
QPR
hmm.
[–]PotatoMussab 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7時間前* (3子コメント)
He was awful for us in midfield in LVG's first season
No he wasn't. He was one of our most composed midfielders next to Carrick. Never lost the ball and made amazing interceptions.
has never done well for Holland there either.
Never watched Netherlands that much.
In the PL and internationally he's been far better at CB than in midfield or LB. Why are people so desperate to see him play in a position he's continuously failed in?
Not really. I'm not sure you even watch Blind play. Blind (during LvG's time) was much better in midfield than as a CB. Even under Mourinho he's been jaw-dropping in the preseason friendlies. People seem to forget that he has the ability to adapt to pressure and set the tempo for the match. Alongside Pogba, I think they will be unstoppable as a pair.
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
Rofl jaw dropping? blind?
You stupid clueless cunt
Messi is a jaw dropping footballer.
My god there's some retards on here and you may well be commander in chief. Just another thick as pig shit 18 year old who's been following football 5 minutes and couldn't buy a clue
[–]PotatoMussab 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Thanks for contributing to the discussion.
[–]illtakeyourfaceJust kick it to Paul. 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Lol you are a miserable cunt. Go get a hobby ya sad shiet.
[–]DelTrottervan Nistelrooy 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Missed out 3 games, it's the most important information.
[–]dogdiarrheaPogba 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 22時間前 (3子コメント)
And the other guy won player of the month. WE HAVE THE BEST DEFENDERS, DON'T WE FOLKS?
[–]seihandaShaw 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 21時間前 (2子コメント)
The other guy has name though
[–]dogdiarrheaPogba 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 21時間前 (1子コメント)
John Cena?
[–]seihandaShaw 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 21時間前 (0子コメント)
no, sansa stark
[–]kash_reddevil 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
I remember slating him towards the end of last season, don't remember which game it was. I had failed to recognize his contribution to the team the entire season. He has changed everyone's perception of him playing at CB. United can rely on him. Presently, Smalling who was arguably the best defender in the PL last season has to fight for his place. This is good for the squad. Meanwhile, everyone are waiting to see the partnership between Bailly and Smalling.
[–]tushiexpibracadabra 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
What a great player. Really hope he shines tomorrow!
[–]jmi15Blind 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm glad that he's still with us this season amid all those transfer rumors. He's a true professional in our team and we need him as a role model for those youths. Never crave for attention but always prove his critics wrong
[–]GrayOctopusBasti 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
Watch him commit a silly mistake and suddenly he is the worst player in history of football.
[–]marginallyOCD 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
These stats made me so hard.
[–]allyallmfersneed___ 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1日前 (18子コメント)
You expected less?
[–]TheHatFullOfHollow 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 23時間前 (17子コメント)
Hardly anything will satisfy the skeptics when it comes to Blind. A few mistakes and they'll forget everything and be all over him again, calling him slow, physically weak and not "world class".
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 22時間前 (16子コメント)
Blind is still nowhere near a world class CB. What are you on about?
[–]TheHatFullOfHollow 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 22時間前 (14子コメント)
It doesn't matter if the skeptics think he is "world class" or not. The way he's been playing, he'll outperform your "world class" wishlist marquee signing any given match day.
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 22時間前 (13子コメント)
He hasn't done that at all though.
Diego Godin is a world class centre back. You think he's been outperforming that level?
[–]TheHatFullOfHollow 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 22時間前 (2子コメント)
Yeah.
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 22時間前 (1子コメント)
Okay, then you're a clueless idiot.
Apparently being good against Bournemouth, Hull and Southampton makes you Godin level.
[–]TheHatFullOfHollow 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
Yeah
[–]mancranger 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 22時間前 (9子コメント)
What are Godin's stats so far this season vs Blind's?
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 22時間前* (8子コメント)
Defensive stats are meaningless. They are a complete joke and an almost total waste of time.
The fact you didn't know that already speaks volumes.
Great defenders rarely ever have to intercept, tackle or block. Their marking is so flawless their man is rarely in a position to actually be a passing option.
Not to mention teams that win and dominate possession are far less likely to ever have to do defensive actions in the first place. Someone like Pique barely ever has to tackle anyone, doesn't make him a bad defender. Aerial duels are equally bullshit because some players (like Mascherano for example) rarely actually go for a header unless they're going to win it, they just push their man or obstruct them enough to stop them getting a real header off. That means he 'loses' aerial duels all the time (or they don't even count them).
[–]mancranger 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 21時間前 (2子コメント)
Defensive stats are meaningless. They are a complete joke and an almost total waste of time. The fact you didn't know that already speaks volumes
The fact you didn't know that already speaks volumes
Never claimed I didn't know that. I just was asking for quantitative data, but if you want to use passive aggressive comments to prove your point, you have already lost an arguement that never existed in the first place.
[–]TheHatFullOfHollow 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 21時間前 (1子コメント)
There's this:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/may/05/premier-league-ineptitude-index-2015-16-leicester-city
It's no secret how well United performed defensively last season, and Blind, Smalling and especially De Gea get to take the credit for that.
The exchange with the other guy ironically demonstrates my point about Blind and his United "fan" detractors to the T.
It's just a bunch a people regurgitating what they've heard elsewhere. Even Scholesy does it, the absolute knob.
[–]mancranger 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21時間前 (0子コメント)
I remember reading this artice at the time it was published. How the hell we weren't able to make something of last season with this in mind is baffling really.
[–]keplerredditor 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 20時間前 (3子コメント)
This is such a naive comment. Great defenders rarely ever have to intercept, tackle or block? So Nemanja Vidic was not a great defender? Or John Terry? Stats are never meaningless - what they can be though, is interpreted in isolation. If Daley Blind completed the season with the same average stats as right now (including minutes per game), he'd have to have had the best defensive performance of any player in history, which is not going to happen of course. These stats though, combined with the fact that Louis Van Gaal and Jose Mourinho (both of whom have more football intelligence than you could acquire if you spent the next thousand years watching football on tv and commenting afterward on reddit) felt that Blind was good enough to start for Manchester United. That makes him world class - period.
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[–]keplerredditor 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 19時間前 (0子コメント)
So what exactly makes a defender world class? Please educate us. Given that you do not believe that it is any of their tackling, interception, blocking, or rating by one of the most successful managers in history, what exactly is your definition? I assume that your answer will be plays with Iniesta/Messi, right?
[–]sayheykid24Martial 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
Great defenders are defend well within the context what a team is trying to do. Sometimes that means marking their man, and denying him as a passing option, and sometimes their roll is more fluid and dynamic. So to say defensive stats are meaningless isn't necessarily true, and to say that a good defender rarely makes tackles, etc. isn't necessarily true. A good defender can thrive and execute a variety of roles in a variety of setups.
[–]Trickybuz93Schweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 18時間前 (0子コメント)
facepalm
He's not even a natural CB
[–]MrDaebak 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 21時間前 (2子コメント)
Still probably gets mediocre ratings in FIFA 17,18,19 and probably 20 if he stays fit. But these statistics make me so happy, we know the truth if anyone tries to flame Blind!
[–]DibspicableJanuzaj 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 15時間前 (1子コメント)
You say it like FIFA ratings actually matter. :p
[–]MrDaebak 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
they matter to me because they piss me off more often than not haha, some are just crazy, makes me think if EA is even watching football
[–]Bunch_of_BangersCantona 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Really didn't expect Smalling to be in the bench to start the year, but Daley has been unbelievable. He's been a great signing.
[–]bleedrednblackCantona 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
His hair is also perfect.
[–]suehaScholes 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1日前 (7子コメント)
Let's see how he handles the big game tomorrow.
[–]goodguy1994it's Rooneyyy, it's inevitable. some things are meant to be 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 1日前 (6子コメント)
Tbf he was brilliant against city in the last three games he played against them. Heck he played Aguero out of the game at the Etihad recently. Blind struggles against players like Gomis, Carroll when their teams single him out and spray long balls. When the opposition play it along the ground, he does very well most of the time. Then again, I've yet to see him fuck up in 2016, he handled every striker very well. Lukaku, Aguero, giroud, ighalo, Deeney, etc.
[–]KingK524Blind 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
West Ham away in the PL last season was his worst performance in our shirt.
[–]CveinMemphis & Martial 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 23時間前 (0子コメント)
Shared with Darmian, but our loss vs Tottenham was 3 rapid defensive mistakes after TFM was a champion on the pitch.
[–]goodguy1994it's Rooneyyy, it's inevitable. some things are meant to be 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23時間前 (1子コメント)
Id argue Leicester away in 14/15 was his worst
[–]KingK524Blind 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 23時間前 (0子コメント)
The entire team collapsed tbf
[–]suehaScholes 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 21時間前* (0子コメント)
Then again, I've yet to see him fuck up in 2016
You mean in season 16/17? Because in 2016 he fucked up more than enough. West Ham and Spurs was awful.
[–]fakeplasticairbagKeane 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
Deeney, etc
He was awful against Deeney. Deeney completely took him (and TFM) apart and if Ighalo hadn't missed so many sitters we'd have lost that game.
He was also atrocious vs Spurs which was also in 2016.
As well as West Ham as has been mentioned already.
[–]lecoqdezellwillerCantona 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Love it. Defending by defending. Still thought he was pants last year though. Now we know why.
[–]Rooninho87 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Bump
[–]corys99Mata -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 23時間前 (2子コメント)
I think that a bailly/blind or a smalling/blind partnership is good for most games, but against teams with a strong, physical attacker such as everton with lukako or Chelsea with costa we can go with bailly/smalling and bully the shit out of them
[–]Patoromia 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 23時間前 (0子コメント)
Except Blind put Lukaku to shame last year
[–]RealNiqqaHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Are there people that are genuinely still believing this? Blind has faced lukaku plenty of times and yet, he's only lost to him on a few plays.
[–]reubz7 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
Wee-deserved of his starting 11 spot. brilliant so far but im still not convinced for the long term. bailly would need someone more commanding in the mould of vidic to develop. our defence looks sturdy but its early stages to judge since we haven't played the big guns!
[–]JeffMurdock_ 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 23時間前 (1子コメント)
Bailly doesn't need a Vidic. He is the Vidic. To be completely honest, he need a Rio, with composure on the ball and a calming influence to his sometimes mental ways. Blind fits that really well right now.
Rio had pace and was a lot stronger and taller than Blind as well as much better defensively
Blind is doing a solid job for now but long term if we're looking to be a UCL winning club I doubt he'll be a starting CB.
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