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[Post Match Thread] Manchester Utd vs Manchester City (self.reddevils)

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FT: Manchester United 1 - 2 Manchester City

Kevin De Bruyne 0 - 1

Kelechi Iheanacho 0 - 2

Zlatan Ibrahimovic 1 - 2

cc /u/meho7

Full Match/Highlights

BBC Report

Next Match: Thursday away to Feyenoord at 6PM BST.

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[–]RyanSorsbyFalcao 217ポイント218ポイント  (12子コメント)

Rashford needs to start.

[–]wallpaper_01Giggs 37ポイント38ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, he didn't get many chances really but I'd start him over lingard all day long

[–]patrickk719Martial 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

He'll probably start the game against Feyenoord on Thursday

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    [–]TMilloMartial 129ポイント130ポイント  (5子コメント)

    First half we were abysmal. Second half was a great game of football. Overall, I think they deserved the win but damn would I have loved a point from that Rashford goal

    What a game though. Shame we got out of the blocks so slow. Revenge will be had.

    [–]Dray1397Rashford 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I literally yelled and woke my brother up when Rashfords went in. And then -____-

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      [–]HairyArthurManchester United 234ポイント235ポイント  (11子コメント)

      Result aside, you'll struggle to see a better match than that this season. Amazing.

      [–]essjay2009Mourinho 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I think we played better today in the second half than at any point last season, win or lose. It was City abandoning their philosophy and parking the bus and us throwing it all at them. A proper game of two halves with end to end stuff and other cliches.

      If cuntenberg wasn't such a cunt, we would have had a penalty and Bravo would have been off as well. We didn't deserve to lose.

      It will be interesting to see whether popular opinion turns against Pep if he continues to be so negative and encourage time wasting in the 50th minute.

      [–]fakewars 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Arsenal vs Liverpool.

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        [–]BlemKraLThe Best 119ポイント120ポイント  (9子コメント)

        Nolito looks like an illegitimate child between aguero and Costa

        [–]SoFuLLEricTheKing 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Or if Jesus Navas suddenly went through puberty

        [–]peduxeAnder Free Herrera Agüera 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

        and his walking pose lol, looks he's rubbing his hands about to commit some trickery.

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          [–]kaariainenSmalling 372ポイント373ポイント  (30子コメント)

          Regardless of the result today, i haven't felt like this watching United in ages, my heart was racing for the whole match, wonderfully entertaining.

          Early days still, we will challenge for the title this season!

          [–]Jesus_is_my_flyhalf 112ポイント113ポイント  (16子コメント)

          Loads were saying last year they would rather see exciting losses than 0-0 draws, I think today proved that a bit. Was absolutely tied to the screen.

          [–]kaariainenSmalling 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Agree on that, but i guess it factors in a bit that there were positives too, last season not so much.

          [–]svtomHerrera 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

          Not a loss to fucking city though :(

          [–]PX44 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Rather lose to them than Bournemouth and Norwich.

          I know, I know, the history, but today was not a bad game to lose, where the result could have gone either way and the play on show was amazing. Our November/December last season was awful play and embarrassing frankly.

          [–]a_berdeen 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Yep all the other top 6 competitors leave this game thinking United are not going to be an easy club to beat. City had to play their hearts out today.

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            [–]pkkthetigerr 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Id rather a draw than a loss to city.

            [–]Kiddcohen39Bailly 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Eh, still a hard pass on that sentiment from me. The game was brilliant to watch, sure. But there's no doubt in my mind id rather suffer through 90' of boring football then drop 3 points against City.

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              [–]coken89Rooney 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

              All match? Felt disgusted first 30 mins. Was very entertaining after that but God that first 30 mins.... We deserve the loss. Take this loss on the chin and hopefully learn something from it. Mkhitaryan will need a lot of improvement and Lingard didn't even look like a Manchester United player. Fingers crossed they improve. On a happier note Herrera was amazing and Rashford pushed their defence in the early part of the second half.

              [–]0100110101001000Blind 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Absolute brilliant match not considering the result. I'm glad we picked it up in the second half and my heart was racing the last 45'!

              [–]W0NDERB0Y 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I agree with your sentiment. It was entertaining and we played well for 60 minutes but the first 30 sealed it for us.

              [–]manutd875 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Yep, I was thinking the same thing. It's been so long since I've screamed the whole match.

              [–]ArmchairScoutSpiderPogz 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It's a tough loss but yes it was extremely entertaining. Well worth waking up for.

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                [–]SinferUnitedMAARTIALLLLLLLL 145ポイント146ポイント  (26子コメント)

                Fuck off Bravo, so much time wasting and being a cunt

                [–]WhatTheHellManSir Not Yet Appearing In This Film 70ポイント71ポイント  (11子コメント)

                At least he's so shit he'll cost them 10+ points this year!

                [–]TomMatthews 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                He's not though he's actually a decent keeper he was god awful today no doubt and was being a dick constantly and should've been sent off for Barcelona he was very good kept Ter Stegan out

                [–]_Slabs_Le Roi 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                That and the games he misses for getting sent off!

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                  [–]mirnos 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  I love how when Rooney made contact with Bravo's right foot, he took a step with his left and then jumped up. It was one of those situations that you can only laugh about.

                  [–]Ar-CurunirPaul Scholes, he scores goals! 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  Pretty sure he should have been sent off for his two footed studs up challenge on Rooney.

                  [–]fellowe5Shaw 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Absolutely should have been off. It's amazing the double standard that exists for keepers regarding tackles.

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                      [–]silkie_blondoKing Dave 49ポイント50ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Rooney and Valencia were probably our best players out there today.

                      Herrera and Rashford absolutely made a difference when they came on. Unlucky to not score more but so were city. I think the better team won unfortunately.

                      [–]Tne10Herrera 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Horrible 1st half. Great 2nd half!

                      [–]nerdie 112ポイント113ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      you know it's a new Man Utd when you enjoyed the match even though we lost

                      [–]catfayceCole 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      100% agree. The game broke through my hangover. So exciting

                      [–]ideniedyou28Jonny Evans 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      The positive that I'm taking from this game is that I forgot how much I fucking love Herrera

                      [–]-iusedtobecoolED WOODGOD 319ポイント320ポイント  (76子コメント)

                      Rooney was absolutely brilliant today. And I've not been his biggest fan recently.

                      And Herrera completely changed the game!

                      Shame about the result but feeling positive.

                      [–]Oblivion2510The a 127ポイント128ポイント  (16子コメント)

                      Herrera deserves a starting place he was out fucking standing in that midfield

                      [–]HomelessSmurfMartial 31ポイント32ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      He always gives 100%

                      [–]Spruce-MooseHerrera 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      He was great, but I think we have to consider how much space we had today as City tired and largely played on the counter. There are games for Herrera and games for other options, I feel.

                      [–]LakerBullMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Agreed. Although i liked the idea of him playing with Pogba and Fellaini, since it gives Pogba more freedom to attack. Shame that he was invisible today.

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                        [–]CosmicGravyMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Hererra coming on gave Pogba the freedom to get forward but at that point he was completely knackered. 4-3-3 would suit us so much better than what we currently use.

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                          [–]Low-Born-Scum 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          His best performance this season funnily enough.

                          [–]MirunMUFCCarrick 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          agree with both Rooney and Herrera, maybe this will see us change to a more of 4-3-3

                          [–]PoliceMachineShades of Dunc 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It was like Rooney of old. Always wanted the ball and driving it forwards. Was brilliant to see

                          [–]Jesus_is_my_flyhalf 38ポイント39ポイント  (16子コメント)

                          Not too bad, just Mou had the tactics wrong in the first half. Much better second half, not too bad in the end. A point would have been nice.

                          [–]johncenatbh 104ポイント105ポイント  (9子コメント)

                          The tactics weren't wrong, Mkhi and Lingard were supposed to track back, theyre much better than Mata or Martial at that, and play on the counter with their pace, Mou didnt know they would lose every ball and get beaten in every 50/50, they were utter shit.

                          [–]Pace120 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          The tactics were clearly wrong in some regards. Irrespective of Miki and Lingard, DeBruyne kept finding the space behind Fellaini and Pogba, and ahead of the back line. The result was that he dominated. Mou moved Herrera there to cover, and it completely changed the game.

                          [–]Jesus_is_my_flyhalf 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          I think a big problem was 4-5 players pressing when the ball went back to the defense and keeper. Left us very vulnerable in the midfield and defense. We stopped doing that in the second half, along with the substitutions it helped, I think.

                          Its the whole point of possession based football, to stretch teams. No one in the Prem did it against LVG, which is why our possession football the last few years didn't work. They just sat back and let us pass the ball around between defenders. We played right into Pep's hands in the first half.

                          [–]yiyiyiyiPogba 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          They were wrong. We got absolutely killed in midfield and trying to play counter attack with Zlatan and Rooney was stupid.

                          Second half we brought Herrera on, went to 433. We were able to get more of the ball and bring Zlatan and Rooney into the game.

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                            [–]1wordcommmentValencia 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Not too bad, just Mou had the tactics wrong in the first half.

                            No way. First half mess was all on players. Most of our players were struggling to do the basics right. Bad first touch, bad simple passes. Both goals were an error. Tactics had nothing to do with it. More of a selection error in the hindsight.

                            [–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Mata was a huge miss Mkhi just couldnt keep hold of the ball

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                              [–]pucykoks 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Wouldn't have lost if it wasn't for those stupid mistakes and the first 30 minutes overall. We were better afterwards.

                              [–]ClwNzaMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I agree with this. We were very sloppy in the first half. Losing balls unnecessary, playing out of position, silly mistakes. It cost us.

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                                [–]ksedymami 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Yup, truly inspired performance.

                                [–]pearlz176The Ginger Prince 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                someone who's not particularly tall, he wins a fuck ton of headers.

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                                  [–]LinkMarker 110ポイント111ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                  Disappointed to lose, but what a fucking great game! One of the best we've played in for a few years.

                                  [–]wasamatore18 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                  You serious? We were utterly outplayed for the first 40 minutes.

                                  [–]alexHunterGod 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Pogba, Micky and Lingard have to hit the training hard

                                  [–]samstevens6268LVG 94ポイント95ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                  pogba needs to learn when to fuck around and when to pass the fucking ball

                                  [–]FURyannnnScholes 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  He killed so many attacks by trying to do tricks. Just pass the ball, there's no shame in not getting around a defender.

                                  [–]WildBuffalo 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  I just don't think he's fit. He looked knackered in that second half, he was trying to make things happen but he was exhausted. Lack of pre-season will do that to you I guess.

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                                    [–]6500s 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                    I think the title race will be as close as this match was.

                                    Great game of football for a neutral, not so good for my heart.

                                    [–]allyallmfersneed___ 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    I need a bottle and a nap after this.

                                    [–]BBQ_HaX0rStannis the Mannis 88ポイント89ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                    Fuck Mark Clattenburg. Every single 50/50 went one way today. Still no excuse for our atrocious first 40, but god damn we couldn't catch a fucking break.

                                    [–]LarsHoneytoast44 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    There was a great shot of Otamendi rolling on the ground and Ibra just walking away while getting carded and not giving a fuck. It was bliss.

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                                      [–]FizzypoptartsRooney 52ポイント53ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      Fuck clattenburg

                                      [–]AFooteofNightsongMartial 223ポイント224ポイント  (45子コメント)

                                      Clattenburgh was a disgrace

                                      [–]Oblivion2510The a 46ポイント47ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      So many fouls given to City that were waved away to us

                                      [–]deeejhibbertPogba 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      de Bruyne starting a counter with the elbow right after he carded fellaini almost ended with my phone through the tv

                                      [–]ideniedyou28Jonny Evans 57ポイント58ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      Abysmal refereeing. Some of the fouls that were given to city that weren't given to us were fucking bullshit. Fuck clattenburg, "best ref in england" my arse

                                      [–]Mesial 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      He really needs to be more consistent, I get both teams deserved fouls but at least call them all rather than picking and choosing.

                                      [–]badgarok725SAF 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      I guarantee no one would have done better though. I feel weird sticking up for him all the time, but no ref does well in games like what the second half was. When players are constantly toeing the line of foul/not foul then you're going to miss stuff.

                                      [–]gullible_giraffeFellaini 39ポイント40ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                      Unbelievable that he let Bravo get away with that studs up challenge and the handball in the box

                                      [–]TomMatthews 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                      Handball I can see why I probably wouldn't have given that but Bravo holy crap arguably one of the worst challenges you'll see this season in the league luckily Rooney wasn't hurt cuz if he was it would've been a bad one

                                      [–]Sir_BryanMartial 34ポイント35ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                      Ok but lets not pretend he was the reason we lost. City was the better team and they absolutely battered us for the first half hour. We were fairly even from there but they still deserved the result.

                                      [–]AFooteofNightsongMartial 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      No, we lost it because of our shit first half, but I can't understand how he's always given big games then refuses to make big calls

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                                        [–]tsnn2da 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        TBH rooney should have been sent off and there was a penalty on otamendi in the box by bailley around 70' that he didnt' give

                                        [–]Kambei1311 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                        No he wasn't. For the most part it was a well officiated game.

                                        City played us off the park in the first half and we were lucky to keep it so close for so long. Much better second half but we just weren't quite good enough, and City deserved to win.

                                        Let's stop whinging about referees. It's bitter and juvenile.

                                        [–]Ar-CurunirPaul Scholes, he scores goals! 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        You can say that City played well but also criticize the ref. It's not a binary decision. Clattenburg was soft on their players, and giving fouls willy nilly to ours. He also should have sent off Bravo, or at least given us a pen, for the challenge on Rooney.

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                                          [–]LordCheezusDe Gea 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          He'd rather them injure themselves than give a fair challenge. So many missed penalties or fouls. Fuck that ref.

                                          [–]BHButcherKing Eric 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          Thought he was brilliant. Let the game play out as much as he could but still stopped it from getting out of control

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                                            [–]ideniedyou28Jonny Evans 74ポイント75ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                            Fuck you city

                                            [–]mrpunman 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            Very eloquently put. Bravo. Wait, fuck Bravo

                                            [–]ideniedyou28Jonny Evans 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I fucking hate bravo with a passion after that shitshow he put on today

                                            [–]BBQ_HaX0rStannis the Mannis 26ポイント27ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                            Very unlikable group they have now.

                                            [–]IrishaneSolskjaer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Well said.

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                                              [–]MiLSturbieMartial 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Okay, we lost. We had a very bad first half. But I have to say that the rush I felt during that second half is one that I hadn't felt in a long time, and the players played their fucking heart out, they really did. Fellaini was astounding, Rooney gave everything, Herrera too.

                                              I'm so glad to say that we lost because it was City and they have a great team, instead of having to admit that we're basically shit and have no clue like it was often the case in these last 3 years. Players were shaken at first but gave everything and that's what I love to see. They're all going back to the dressing room having lost and I love every last one of them.

                                              [–]Oblivion2510The a 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Outplayed and Outclassed in the First Half and we just couldn't break through in the Second Half

                                              [–]elneebrePogba 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Rooney was brilliant

                                              Don't even feel THAT bad after the game, still incredibly positive about the season

                                              [–]Remy_LaCroix_ 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                              I hate nolitos face

                                              [–]daprodigyx19Martial 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Thought that was a fantastic Derby in terms of entertainment.

                                              Disappointed in the loss, but happy with how they fought back after 40 minutes. No doubt in my mind these are the top 2 clubs in the league

                                              [–]yungcabby 38ポイント39ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                              And cunts on r/soccer actually thought Clattenburg favored us.

                                              [–]lawanhawizy[🍰] 16ポイント17ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                              Pogba was fucking naff.

                                              [–]svtomHerrera 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Pogba was playing?

                                              [–]wallpaper_01Giggs 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              He looked pretty tired I thought. Never helped out defensively. We were lucky city didn't get 2 on their counters.

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                                                [–]TixicotSchneiderlin 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                We came so teasingly close on so many occasions. Needed better execution today!

                                                [–]Lord_SauronMourinho > Moyes > Giggs > LVG 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                What the hell happened with Lingard and Mkhi? Lingard especially looked shocking out there.

                                                [–]AspectsDruidCarrick 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Fellaini was outstanding again today. If only we'd played at the higher tempo (that we had in the second half) from the start...

                                                [–]rtrip 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Rooney and Herrera know what is required to play in the derby

                                                [–]CaptainMonkeyDLuffy 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Expected more from Pogba today

                                                [–]Lawlietttt 26ポイント27ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                Martial was a complete waste of a sub. And Herrera must play next game.

                                                [–]WildBuffalo 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                Not his fault though, we brought on a pacey winger who loves the ball played to his feet and kept slamming long balls through the middle. Would have honestly been better to bring on Smalling and put him up front with Zlatan and Fellaini.

                                                [–]Ar-CurunirPaul Scholes, he scores goals! 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Tbf we didn't really involve him; we were just punting balls up into the box.

                                                [–]Lawlietttt 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                That's why I think he was a waste. If mou wanted to pump balls into the box, Shaw should've gone off for Snalling

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                                                  [–]dkkoooGiggs 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Rooney take a bow, Captain's performance

                                                  [–]Miniatom 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  Can't win every match, horrible first 35 minutes, satisfied with the rest, Pogba kinda off his game sadly. The thing im most annoyed with is the several shit posts and comments trash talking our players every time we lose... Embarassing they call themself fans.

                                                  [–]ssb5107Herrera 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  Someone please explain why Herrera doesn't start week in week out

                                                  [–]Diouff 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                  We wouldn't have lost if we stuck with Martial and Mata.

                                                  [–]yamchirobeJanuzaj 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  I know we lost, but it doesn't matter the team gave it all, also those short cunts were going down for the slightest touch, abysmal refreeing

                                                  [–]jcamilo70 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  A game of two tales.

                                                  Such a cowardly, tacticless, improvised first half. The typical Mourinho plan that was criticized so much everywhere else he coached. Playing offensive, controlled football against bad teams, and then switching to a very cowardly style players aren't used to against good teams. I had so many Barca 5 - Madrid 0 scary flashbacks. Mkhi hadn't featured more than 10 minutes a game all season, so choose to start him today, even coming after another injury???? ok then... Lingaard played as a right wing all season? Sure, let's improvise play him at left wing against the biggest team. I mean what the fuck???

                                                  Blind also got owned in both goals, maybe it's just easier to play out of position against bad teams.

                                                  The second half though, that was so encouraging to see. I LOVED watching Guardiola screaming all scared and calling for 5 at the back, I loved the substitutions, the quick reactions, the switch to 4-3-3, Herrera's game, having Rashford in. In the end, Ibra giveth, and Ibra taketh away, I wish Rashford had scored his chance (ruled offside by Ibra) and it would have been the perfect ending. We have a lot to improve, but we improved so much in the second half, I have no doubt we'll get there. Just wish Pogba had been better and we didn't improvise.

                                                  Right now, City are above us, Pep is above us, and De Bruyne is worth £120M.

                                                  [–]peols90Martial 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  I know I may get some downvotes for this comment. However, I think City were better than us today. They dominated us in the first half and we were lucky to get a late equalizer. Second half, with the substitutes of Herrera and Rashford, were a lot better. The Bravo incident at Rooney should and would have been a definite penalty any other day. Simple cant understand why it wasnt convicted. Had Bravo made such a tackle in the middle of the pitch, no doubt it would have been convicted. With a bit of luck, we might have gotten the equalizer to 2-2. I can live with the defeat.

                                                  [–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 64ポイント65ポイント  (38子コメント)

                                                  • Clattenburg is shit

                                                  • Why is Lingered starting the Derby first game back from injury?

                                                  • That first half was a fucking joke

                                                  • Rashford is one of our best players

                                                  • Zlatan cost us this game, goal or not

                                                  • Rooney did well, I’m glad

                                                  [–]petnarwhalBlind 45ポイント46ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  Mkhitaryan was awful

                                                  [–]TrebolationsJose Mourinho 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  He was but in hindsight I think most of us wanted him to start after his showing against Hull.

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                                                    [–]danlawlMemphis 112ポイント113ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                    Zlatan didn't cost us the game at all. Our abysmal first 35 minutes cost us the game. Blind falling asleep on both goals cost us the game, literally.

                                                    [–]fellowe5Shaw 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    Blind looked bad on those goals, but to be fair the whole team was totally smothered for those first 40 minutes

                                                    [–]6stringsoldier 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    first goal was baily's fault for pressing too high and leaving blind alone. Blind was put in an unlucky situation imo

                                                    [–]xosellc 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    I woke up at 4:30AM to watch the match and I'm pretty sure I was more awake than half the team.

                                                    [–]Sensur10Nani 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Tbf, Blind didn't get any help whatsoever when our midfield totally collapsed over and over again.

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                                                      [–]Oblivion2510The a 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Herrera Deserves to start as well

                                                      [–]shy247erDe Gea 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                      Zlatan cost us this game

                                                      If anyone "cost us" it's Jose with failed tactics in the first half. I don't see what Zlatan did wrong to cost us this game.

                                                      [–]Sir_BryanMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Don't think it's fair to pin the loss on Zlatan. Mkyi and Lingard were abysmal. Pogba was underwhelming while Fernandihno bossed the fuck out of the game.

                                                      You could tell the team was too tired following the international break. Started slow and Bailly, Blind, and Pogba could hardly move after 75 min.

                                                      Zlatan missed a couple chances but City missed many more.

                                                      [–]stifjeDe Gea 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Ibra needs to work harder, he barely pressed all game.

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                                                        [–]TyperSniperKeane 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        We lost that due to the 1st half, we lost the battle but not the war. Encouraging 2nd half but we'll have to improve next week.

                                                        [–]Custard_NoobMartial. He's isolated. Skrtel here. OHHHHH YESSS! 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Well, that's ruined my day. Good 2nd half performance but the 1st half was just shit.

                                                        [–]jaqqzorrManchester United 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        We were pretty unlucky in the end. Jose made excellent subs. We will be challenging for the title.

                                                        Brilliant game though.

                                                        [–]Scarred_ShadowMartial Law 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        They deserved that one. Kevin de Bruyne was immense, Iheanacho filled in more than capably for Aguero.

                                                        For us, we can take encouragement from our second half performance. Defence picked up a bit, but worrying is Mkhi's performance. That first goal could've been prevented by 3 people: Mkhi, Bailly, and Blind. Well, that's the game I guess.

                                                        Onwards and upwards hopefully. :)

                                                        [–]Set-Abominae 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        Shit result, but what an exciting game.

                                                        Also, Smalling has to be back in the starting lineup.

                                                        [–]moonskiOh Robin She Said No 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        feels awful. Fuck that "it was a great game, least we looked good" nonsense.

                                                        we lost at home to city.

                                                        [–]simplyevertHerrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Should have scored more than one with all those chances. But we lost this game the first 30 min for sure

                                                        [–]benlaw730 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Motm Clattenburg

                                                        [–]DasBeerHausDe Gea 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Well, that was shit. Of all the times to start Mickey, you do it after injury? Also, why the hell do you start Jesse?

                                                        [–]Crusty_Gammon_FlapsBailly 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        First half was absolutely awful, I think we were lucky to even get a goal. The second half seemed like a totally different team and I feel like we at least deserved the draw from it but we just couldn't get it in the net.

                                                        Mkhi and Lingard were awful in the first half.

                                                        Herrera, Shaw, Bailly and Fellaini were probably our best players today.

                                                        I also think Rooney played well on the right.

                                                        [–]MalforianJose Mourinho 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        All that needs to be said

                                                        First half shit

                                                        Second half quality

                                                        [–]neerajgroverDarmian 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        • Why did Mourinho start Mkhitaryan and Lingard
                                                        • Herrera was great after he came on
                                                        • Baily is a beast
                                                        • Blind has his limitations and it showed today
                                                        • Rooney was immense
                                                        • Pogba should step up in big games, not saying he wasn't good but he could have been better.
                                                        • Finally, Bravo our MOTM.

                                                        Great Game.

                                                        [–]PrincessLeiasBuns 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Pogba was largely uninfluential today. Played well, just couldn't affect the game too much sadly. Lingard was absolute shite and Mkhi was slightly better but only just. We could have taken the game with a better starting 11, but I'm happy about the fightback and the desire - it's just one match and we can will definitely be up there.

                                                        [–]frege-peach 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        If Mhiktaryan presses properly, Otamendi doesn't get that pass away for the first goal. Obviously a quality player but doesn't look there yet.

                                                        [–]jorgelucas7 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        I am happy that this game happened so early this season.

                                                        [–]monsteroc90 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        Most important game of the season and he starts a recovering Lingard over an in form Rashford? Hererra needs to start.

                                                        [–]Haynes_De Gea 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        This is the least disappointed I've been to lose a derby.

                                                        [–]vincent1989Herrera 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                        That's the difference between a great manger in lvg and a world class one in mou. Changes in personnel, tactics and ethos was perfect at half time and after. They took a risk, a big one. And they gave everything. Don't think any of us can be disapointed with that second half performance.

                                                        [–]Narwhal_Milk(Ed + Wood) x Ward 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        "Rashford spielt immer."

                                                        [–]Lord_SauronMourinho > Moyes > Giggs > LVG 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        I'd rather see Chelsea or Arsenal win out this season rather than seeing that eggheaded cunt get another league title. Fuck

                                                        [–]WalliiiRooney 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        We lost the match purely on that first half. Why we started with two midfielders against their five I'll never know. We got a lucky goal back, but that second half was ours. I wantes Rooney off after that first half, but boy does he love showing me wrong. The fire in that man to win is something else.
                                                        Lingard was deservedly subbed off, he didn't have any kind of impact on the game. Mkhi lost the ball what, 10 times in that first half? He wasn't as ready as we thought he was.
                                                        Rashford and Herrera changed the dynamic completely, they both worked tirelessly to put pressure on the City defenders and midfield. I think Herrera might get more gametime in the coming weeks purely from his work ethic this second half.
                                                        All in all, not the worst defeat we could suffer. It's just the 4th match of the season, we showed some fighting spirit, and and we're still working on our squad.
                                                        MOTM for me is KDB, that boy ran his ass off for the whole 88 minutes he played. What a player he is!

                                                        [–]forwardpassRooney 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Don't sugercoat this, we got destroyed today. Could've been 4-1, 5-1 on another day. Yes we showed spirit to stay in the game, but that's the least you expect from this team.

                                                        Mourinho lost this game with his starting line-up.

                                                        Serious questions about individuals too. Pogba invisible, Blind suspect, Mkhitaryan and Lingard absolutely toxic.

                                                        Make no mistakes, we're not favourites for the title.

                                                        [–]TheReplacerMkhitaryan 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                        Hello my name is Pep "Park the Bus" Guardiola

                                                        [–]MrMahonyHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        At least it was an exciting loss I suppose...

                                                        [–]epic_weaselHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        First time in 3 years I felt comfortable that we could always pull it out. Result aside, I'm really encouraged by this side and the tactics we're running with

                                                        [–]21unitedArendscamefromfrance 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        1st half cost us the game.

                                                        [–]CaptainS-RadThe Special One 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        That was an amazing match!

                                                        [–]number1journeyfan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Fuck Clattenburg

                                                        [–]Incara1010 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Too many defensive mistakes and offensively flat. Tough game to watch.

                                                        [–]theduckofreasoningRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        We tried everything at the end if the first half was better maybe it would have been different

                                                        [–]CumsInBreadRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Everytime Rashford got the ball, he carried so much hope. Almost all of his runs were insanely dangerous, so happy that he's continuing to show that hes not a one season pony.

                                                        [–]OrgandoanerMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        Is Otamendi the biggest pussy in the league? Every touch he falls.

                                                        [–]Sensur10Nani 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        Bravo, what a shit keeper

                                                        [–]cartesian5thMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Let's be honest here, the second half was better but United were not good today. Distinct lack of quality in the first half and we let city run the show. A gift from Bravo let us back in but even then we created very little. Must do better in future against good opposition

                                                        [–]eatayMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        I've waited for this for two weeks and didn't sleep a wink last night. I'm pretty gutted but it's good to know we can make some adjustments in the second half because God knows that first half was abysmal.

                                                        [–]TheRealPeteWheeler 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Absolutely gutted by the loss. Really was looking forward to taking this one and it felt like we could've easily come away with the win.

                                                        Regardless, wonderfully encouraging match after last season's garbage. With a missed penalty, Zlatan's shocker at the end of the first half, Rashford's goal that was called off, Clattenburg's general ineptitude, and the flukeish nature of both of City's goals, we easily could've come away with three points. Pep's City is going to be class- We knew that. Games like this are going to happen. We can't win all of them. But I'm optimistic for the next one, and I still see us going top four with a chance of winning the league. On to the next.

                                                        Edit: Also, City are cunts and Clattenburg is shit.

                                                        [–]lemi69 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        We're they marking Pogba the entire game or did he not show up?

                                                        [–]macAaronEGiggs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Mou made the wrong call starting Lingard and Mkhi but was right to sub them off. Tough loss, but a good game. Clattenburg was subpar.

                                                        [–]ChrishutchyGiggs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        First 40 minutes cost us

                                                        [–]I_WILL_NEVER_RUSTdoubted Martial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Feels surreal. Dunno if it's because I'm relieved we weren't battered by half time but despite the loss, I'm not feeling too devastated.

                                                        [–]HighOnNicotine 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Jose should have probably played Blind in centre midfield and Smalling and Bailly at the back. We literally had no calmness on the ball until Herrera came on.

                                                        [–]il_thorHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Not even mad, it was a great game, but mikhi and lingaard where not up to it in the first half

                                                        [–]tgmgg 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Only 4th game of the season, we'll push on. Really not impressed by City players flopping around after every little bit of contact. Bravo's tackle on Rooney was dangerous IMO, leaps, almost two footed and studs up. Clattenburg let City off the hook for numerous obvious fouls I thought.

                                                        [–]NoFearMatthewIsHere 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Pogba didn't turn up today.

                                                        [–]HawaiianFudgeSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Really disappointed with mikis performance

                                                        [–]RAKtheUndeadIrwin 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        At least we kept fighting until the end. I'm not exactly happy, but the second-half performance spared us some embarrassment and I hope we can learn from that. City are vulnerable, despite what we saw in the first 45 minutes.

                                                        [–]idontknowofficer 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        Could easily have been 2-2 had ibra taking his second gaping goal chance and a hand full of half chances in the second half.

                                                        [–]DavidADaly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Shit to lose but don't feel too bad about it, the damage was done in the first half though.

                                                        [–]NikitaScherbak 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Great game regardless of the result. The Lingard experiment did not work, hopefully Memphis gets a start in the next game given Martial's poor form. Rooney had some great moments, but I think its time to start somebody else at #10, maybe Mkhi while Rashford starts on the right. Same goes for Fellaini, as I would really like to see how Schneiderlin teams up with Pogba

                                                        [–]tsarvmarko 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        I'm still trying to process how I just watched 15 straight minutes of lobbed balls into City's half

                                                        [–]MostUsefulBloke 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Mourinho has to take his fair share of the blame today. Weeks to think about tactics and his team, but he got it so wrong from the start.

                                                        [–]HmphOkay 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Incredible game, really showed the caliber of the two managers at the helm of the Manchester Derby.

                                                        Our set-up in the first half wasn't right, but fair play to City, they played incredibly well. Their best performance of the season.

                                                        We were a bit unlucky with the goals, Blind getting caught out by a quick touch by De Bruyne and iheanacho scoring from a rebound off the post.

                                                        Second half we were much better, faster tempo, more control and the natural drive that a Manchester United team should have. We did end up getting a bit tired and not having a midfield dropping back but yeah.

                                                        Great game, disappointed with the result, happy with the performance!

                                                        [–]ArguablyHappyBlind 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Why start with Lingard? Too big of a game for the kid.

                                                        [–]prsquaredJanuzaj 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        It was absolutely wonderful to see Mourinho make those unpredictable substitutions.

                                                        [–]CoolsacsZlatan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        I know Fellaini was great today, but we need a proper DM in our game.

                                                        [–]demgroovesDe Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Despite the loss, I think we played really well second half and we were unlucky not to equalise. My standouts were Fellaini, Rooney, Hererra and Bailly (again). The worst players were probably our other signings, Mkhitariyan was awful but to be fair he is still injured and im sure he will improve when hes fit, zlatan was so frustrating today and pogba looked like a nothing player today, taken down too easily at times (do you think we should play him higher?)

                                                        [–]MR777Van Nistelrooy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        Ok we lost, but what a great game. First half we were so passive, then Mou makes the changes and we take control. One of the best halves I've seen from us in a while, even though we lost, I can't remember when I saw every player fight for every ball like that. Bailly is superhuman, Zlatan's goal streak continues, Rashford played great. Only negative (besides the first half) was Martial disappearing, but Pep put 5 at the back and played long balls.

                                                        [–]americansadass_Martial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Last 45 minutes had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. Amazing match, I feel we deserved something from that game but in all fairness they were SO good the first half they were probably deserved winners.

                                                        [–]TomekkPL1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Very disappointed, but I feel a little assured by the way we came back in the 2nd. Hopefully we can get them at home!!

                                                        [–]maszhananSAF 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Shaw kept Sterling & Sane in his pocket all day.

                                                        [–]srx_godBlind 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        I'm proud of the lads. Ander was a lion in the second half. Fella was good throughout. We can talk about ifs and buts but this team is not going to lie down. I'm going to take the positives.

                                                        [–]snakedogbiscuit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Disappointing result, but the players really gave it everything they had, after being tactically outclassed for the first half. Bailly looked like he was ready to crumple into a heap by the end of the match but kept going. The spirit is back. This is going to be a great season.

                                                        [–]YSho6WQ_never4get 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        And that's a great reminder that football is a game of 90+ minutes.

                                                        A massive round of applause for the boys for their second half showing, played to the verge of collapse and still kept going.

                                                        Draw would've been fair but we just paid the price for bad tactics / slow start / too many backfoot players in the first half.

                                                        [–]Skeuomorphic_Martial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Lingard was useless in the first half and Rashford needs to start more often

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