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New Policy on CCJ Terms (self.China)

tan_guan[M] が 投稿 - announcement

Hi /r/China,

From now on we are going to start enforcing the "no circlejerk" rule more strictly when it comes to CCJ terms.

This means that rainy, rocky, nong, and tim will no longer be allowed on /r/China. These words are considered CCJ slang as they either originated in /r/chinacirclejerk (now /r/CCJ2) or became popularized there.

There are a few reasons for this:

Rainy - Although this word was originally created to describe a certain archetype of Chinese women, it is too often used as a catch-all term for Chinese women in general. For many people it feels racist and/or misogynistic, and we think /r/China would be better off without it. For similar reasons the male equivalent, Rocky, is not acceptable either.

Nong - Similar to "Rainy," nong is too often used in a racist way to refer to Chinese people. Even when it is used to mean nongmin it is derogatory and often offensive. It's just not necessary, and no longer welcome on this subreddit.

Tim - This isn't racist or sexist, but it is often used in an rude and offensive way and makes /r/China feel hostile, unwelcoming, and cliquey.

In general, these words are often used offensively, to insult, or dehumanize, and they make /r/China seem like a bitter male expat's club, with its own negative terminology for newbies and Chinese people, when what we really want to create is a more friendly, welcoming, open and accessible subreddit where anyone with an interest in China can feel comfortable posting.

We would rather not ban people for this so will just be giving out gentle warnings at first, and if you really want to use these words, /r/CCJ2 is alive and thriving, and is a place where you can pretty much say anything you like.

This is a great community, and we hope that this will make it even better. Please help us out by using the report function if you see a post or comment that we have missed and please continue to report racism and spam, thanks!

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[–]bigwangbowskiUnited States 86ポイント87ポイント  (8子コメント)

This is a Great Leap Forward for r/China!

[–]JillyPollaTaiwan 55ポイント56ポイント  (1子コメント)

Tim Howard's career got off on a rocky start, but he was soon able to get past the rainy days and become a power house for the American team.

[–]ting_bu_dongUnited States 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

Woah, man, include a trigger warning next time.

[–]DarkSkyKnightUnited States 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll switch to "peasant" then

[–]TheMediumPanda 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bumpkin has the exact same meaning as nong, so I'll go with that.

[–]FunktagalacticEuropean Union 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll miss the word 'Tim', it really nails a certain type of foreigner, but accept this is for the greater good. I've always hated nong/rainy, almost universally used in a racist/mysoginistic context

[–]YosoparletheshishiUnited States 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

Honestly sad that Tim is being removed. Honestly my favorite word I've learned from /r/China.

[–]TheMediumPanda 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I completely disagree with the ban. In my opinion, using Tim for a guy new to China and Chinese ways (thus likely to bump into troubles familiar to everyone here) is no different from using the word newbie or rookie. I honestly can't see anything wrong with using it.

[–]komnenosChina 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can still bring it up in other China related threads on r/worldnews and such. Tell them T I'm what's what.

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    [–]SveHeapsArgentina 30ポイント31ポイント  (12子コメント)

    I'm pretty okay with this.

    This week I've seen some post where all the answers were pure CJ, poor new dudes didn't understand shit.

    [–]chialtismDenmark 25ポイント26ポイント  (9子コメント)

    poor new dudes

    You mean T...

    ... Never mind.

    [–]guasongFrance 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

    reported for bringing up the T word

    [–]yycbettyCanada 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

    soon we'll be calling 't's' 'you-know-who' or 'he who shall not be named'.

    [–]wertexx 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    We need to come up with some new words. I have met way too many girls named Cathy. The you-know-who can now all be called Cathy.

    [–]lammatthew725 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Cathy isn't as self descriptive as the R word

    [–]wertexx 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    True true, but in these dark /r/China times we have to find any alternatives.

    miT? yniaR? gnoN?

    [–]ting_bu_dongUnited States 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It took me 20 minutes to understand all the memes when I first got here.

    [–]lammatthew725 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    20mins is pretty slow.

    The two r words are very self explanatory (the t word is used worldwide)

    The V word is harder to get at first but then it isn't that hard anyways.

    [–]sanyatarkAustralia 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Rainy becomes a "sunshine girl", rocky is "James" and Tim I think should be renamed "Frank". Vivian is never to be messed with and a nong should be referred to as "those lovable folks from out of town".

    [–]pompitous_of_love 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    None of these substitutes have the same cachet as the originals. I for one am disappointed with the mods and opposed to these changes.

    [–]lammatthew725 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Frank is pretty good.. I second that.

    [–]itoitoito 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I saw my first Frank today.

    [–]bradj43 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I think the most important point is that there is a place that's great for these terms if people really need to get them out of their systems.

    The mods are trying to establish the identity of /r/China as a place where anyone can come and ask questions and get answers and be entertained and be enlightened and share opinions about China.

    /r/CCJ2 is a place where people can use those terms and mess with each other as much as they want and everyone knows what they are getting themselves into.

    Do all of you people sarcastically whining about the censorship and harmony think that the Walking Dead should be aired on PBS instead of cable? It's not that big of a deal to ban these words. It's not an infringement on your rights. It's just being perfectly reasonable and normal. Go to HBO for Game of Thrones and that's great. Go to the history channel for quality programming about...oh wait nevermind, bad example. You get my point.

    [–]tan_guan[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Thanks for your support, your TV channel analogy is great and basically how I feel about it.

    [–]prizunwalletGreat Britain 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Now this exchange is a circle jerk

    [–]Siantlark 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Honestly good riddance to those terms. They were exactly the type of shit that flagged a thread as being full of salty expats who wouldn't give out any useful information.

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      [–]educo_United States 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Hear, hear!

      [–]itoitoito 16ポイント17ポイント  (15子コメント)

      What about "neck beards" "sexpats" "fempats" "English teacher" those terms are used in derogatory ways towards foreigners. Most of the banned words now are all used to protect Chinese but the same should be applied to foreigners.

      Also if you're going to start enforcing one of the guidelines to clean up /r/China, please enforce the others. No visa questions or translation on requests. Those are more annoying than saying T to the I to the M.

      [–]tan_guan[S,M] 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

      We almost never delete visa and translation requests because often people need visa help and have nowhere else to turn, and translation posts are few and far between, and can be interesting. They are more guidelines than rules anyway.

      "Sexpat" is already monitored for racism, and anti-foreign posts are removed just as anti-Chinese posts are.

      [–]twat69 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      "Sexpat" is already monitored for racism

      All the foreign is one race do you know it?

      [–]itoitoito 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Actually I don't care what words people use:)

      [–]ExcaliburZSH 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

      What about "neck beards" "sexpats" "fempats" "English teacher"

      Other than Teacher, when are those terms being used? Even our trolls stopped saying most of those.

      [–]itoitoito 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I've seen neckbears and fempats both used in the past week on multiple occasions.

      [–]iamwastingyourtime 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      i've been on this sub for about a year and not once heard 'fempat' used in a positive way. that said, i would rather call myself that than 'female westerner living in china'

      [–]ExcaliburZSH 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I didn't mean has it been used positively but has it been used or used often,

      [–]TheMediumPanda 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Fempat is bit of a silly construction but I've seen it used plenty as describing a regular female foreigner in China. Often as a way to clarify that you or the person in question is a woman and maybe is in need of advice other than "Go bang some Rainxxxx!". I'm on the other hand not denying it's been used as derogatory as well.

      [–]prizunwalletGreat Britain 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This is China, you have no rights

      [–]kinggimpedEngland 29ポイント30ポイント  (10子コメント)

      It. Is. About. Fucking. Time. Guys.

      [–]tan_guan[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

      In a few years we might even update the CSS!

      [–]mwzzhangCanada[🍰] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Soontm

      [–]itoitoito 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You were one letter short of being censored son....watch out. Fuck I can't even write "tm" without autocorrect changing it to Tim! My autocorrect isn't harmonious.

      [–]prizunwalletGreat Britain 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      moving person can hook it up fam!

      [–]ktechmidas 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Agreed, maybe one day we can actually point people to /r/China for reasonable answers!

      [–]ting_bu_dongUnited States 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

      It. Is. About. Fucking. Tim. Guys.

      [–]itoitoito 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Looks like u were downvoted by the no fun, serious, holier than thou noobs.

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        [–]ribeye789 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Makes sense to me. Let CCJ2 take all the shitposts, or "Drunken shitposts", as they say.

        Anything about Rai ... I mean, using those words is probably a shitpost anyway.

        It also gives them a place to bitch and mock others (looking at you, r/China) with their parody posts to demonstrate their superiority.

        They seem to be hurting over there. Giving them exclusive use of those words is the least you can do.

        [–]supercharged0708 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Why don't we have a vote to decide this instead of enforcing these new rules? Let's let the users decide on what they feel are acceptable terms to use and if certain ones are offensive.

        [–]ExcaliburZSH 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

        When anyone can create an Alt in five minutes? When the sub that hate us can jump in and the vote? Voting in principles is nice but the logistics can be a nightmare

        [–]ting_bu_dongUnited States 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        /r/rchinesedemocracy

        [–]ktechmidas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Remember Brexit?

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          [–]JayTeeLaramie 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Good show.

          [–]CannalyzerMacau 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

          /u/rockyrainy will need to start a new account then.

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            [–]Eat_the_PathHong Kong 9ポイント10ポイント  (30子コメント)

            Seems a bit pointless, whether or not word is "bad" depends on the context. Redneck and noob are no more innately racist than these other words I'm no longer allowed to use and I reckon both words are going to see a lot more use, unless they're banned too?

            It's a crude way to enforce positive behaviour.

            [–]tan_guan[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (21子コメント)

            It's not about enforcing positive behavior, it's about getting racist and offensive language off /r/China.

            Redneck is different than nong as it is not used to denigrate an entire nationality like nong is. We have tried asking people not to say it but that has failed and now nine times out of ten when I see it used it is as a racial slur, which is unacceptable.

            [–]prizunwalletGreat Britain 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

            But 农民 is a legitimate word

            [–]Smirth 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Don't offend people. Use 衣 instead. Works for Dear Leader.

            [–]lammatthew725 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Ya... From the Xi's dictionary, the two words are the same.

            [–]itoitoito 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Gasp. Do you know who you just offended?

            [–]impossinatorHong Kong 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I'm reporting you for that! There is no excuse! Doesn't matter if a word is real, or not. What matters is the feelings of people. Feelz uber alles!

            [–]Eat_the_PathHong Kong 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

            What's the difference?

            Don't you see that it depends entirely on the context? Someone could use it as derogatory slur for an entire nation or they could be referring specifically to uneducated, rural Chinese people who exhibit behaviour that is culturally unacceptable in other parts of the word. It's not really up to you too decide what other people mean.

            [–]tan_guan[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

            It's not really up to you too decide what other people mean.

            We are forced to do that every time someone uses the word in a way in which the context does not make it clear.

            Again, nong is banned because it is being used in a racist way. Polite requests not to use it have resulted in most people moving away from the word, but others continue to use it in a racist way. The obvious solution is to ban the word.

            [–]Eat_the_PathHong Kong 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

            The obvious solution is to ban racist uses of the word. Otherwise, where does it stop? Some people use sexpat as a racist term. People some use fempat as a sexist term. Serious question, are they banned too?

            [–]Kooglemoore 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Any bigoted comments are already removed as a matter of policy. In theory, using "nong" in a racist way was already not allowed under the rules of this subreddit.

            In the specific case of "nong," "rainy," etc, the contexts in which these CCJ terms find themselves have become so overwhelmingly laden with bigoted insinuations that we are singling them out for removal, as has long been the policy with other slurs like "chink", "sexpat," or "faggot."

            [–]TheMediumPanda 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

            C'mon. Let's be reasonable here for a second. You can't lump "sexpat" in with chink or faggot. Being Chinese or homosexual is not something you can control and decide about, hence those derogatory words should rightfully be banned. "Sexpat" on the other hand does not fit the same formula at all.

            [–]Kooglemoore 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            The point isn't to equate the terms. Of course as categories of analysis "foreigner" is quite different from "Chinese" or "homosexual." The point is that in their usage they are almost strictly defamatory, as are "nong" and "rainy."

            [–]tan_guan[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Both are monitored and removed if they are racist or sexist.

            [–]Eat_the_PathHong Kong 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            But wait, why aren't they banned completely under the same reasoning? Could it be that there are cases where the word isn't racist based on the context it is in? Exactly like the above words that are now banned.

            [–]prizunwalletGreat Britain 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Oh, the butthurt generation need a safe place

            [–]itoitoito 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

            /r/China can be a scary place....butthurt beware.

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              [–]marnues 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

              It's not really up to you too decide what other people mean.

              What are you talking about? That's exactly what communication is. It's not like we can peek into someone's mind to figure out that what they said is different than what they thought they said.

              [–]Eat_the_PathHong Kong 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I could have worded that better. I guess what I mean is that it's not up to mods to tell people what they mean by their own comments.

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                [–]TheMediumPanda 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Nope. You're wrong here mate. Nong is not worse than bumpkin/country bumpkin at all and it does not "denigrate an entire nationality" at all. Racial slur?? You're kidding right. I cannot remember a single time I've seen "nong" being used outside of the "bumpkin" equivalent.

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                  [–]zerohaloIreland 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Good, though I think Tim is harmless enough, and I disagree that it's often used in a rude and offensive way.

                  Sexpat and fempat are much more offensive than Tim - those should be banned.

                  [–]wertexx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It's not banned though, you fempat ;)

                  [–]DrFapkinstein 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

                  Great. Unfortunately there is a lot of racism here that doesn't involve those words, though I agree they make things worse.

                  [–]ExcaliburZSH 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  Racism verus being really judgmental. The point isn't to end racism (because we can't until we reach Star Trek) but to try an reduce and change the language being used.

                  And in fairness to members, we are "racist" here so we are not racist in real life. This sub is for the most part and safe place to vent, problems with co-workers, issues with in laws, fucking scubbag landlords. Here we can let our anger out because we get the frustrations, understand the problems becuase we all lived through them. We don't want to explode on our Chinese friends "explain to me why your country is so fucked up!" because there we know there isn't fucking much they can do about it.

                  Look at our the Sub's Top posts, none of them are about shitting in the street.

                  [–]nomad2020 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Star Trek just assigned many of their fictional races our own ethnic stereotypes.

                  Rainy is to the naive girl down the street what Quark is to the Jews.

                  Not sure if that makes it better or not, but it's just not the analogy I'd use.

                  [–]ExcaliburZSH 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Star Trek as told from the Human point of view, eliminated racist, classism, poverty, etc. and we are humans.

                  Yeah, Star Trek is bad about alien races. I think the only really developed races are,the Cardassians (sp) and Bajorans.

                  [–]DrFapkinstein 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  This really shouldn't be the place for that kind of thing. In any case, those comments are fine, they're not racist. It's the comments like 'Chinese people only get interested when you talk about money' or 'the Chinese don't understand basic politeness, they only understand if you get in your face', etc. etc.

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                    [–]EtienneraCanada 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

                    We need a r/China2 now

                    [–]ting_bu_dongUnited States 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    /r/sino ?

                    [–]jamar030303 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    The way I imagine a better /r/china would be without the racial and political baggage that /r/sino seems to be carrying. I mean, holy crap, I looked around a bit and that sub makes me less inclined to identify with my Chinese heritage. As I said elsewhere, I understand that some people might want a rosier view of China, but I like the healthy dose of realism seen here (and the reason I don't submit rosier stuff here is because I don't submit much in general).

                    [–]ExcaliburZSH 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    I understand that some people might want a rosier view of China, but I like the healthy dose of realism seen here

                    That is the problem at rSino, the thread articles might be positive but the comments are not.

                    [–]jp599United States 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    "Positive" over there means positive for the CCP.

                    [–]rockyrainyChina 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    How about 5998 better, checkout /r/China5000.

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                      [–]Joe_In_ChinaUnited States 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      So like the real China we no longer have freedom of speech in /r/China, wait to go mods! Long Live Mao Zedong Thought!!!

                      [–]GuestBobEuropean Union 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      What if my name is Tim?

                      [–]itoitoito 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Banned

                      [–]fat_stigHong Kong 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Timothy is acceptable I guess, or Timbers, or Henman Hill...

                      [–]ExcaliburZSH 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Do you really want to use your real name here?

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                        [–]sdecouUnited States 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I'm OK with this. It is tough for those who don't understand and it can seem pretty hostile at times.

                        [–]mrgoodkat1707European Union 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        While we are banning stuff, can we please make a rule that bans /s. It's obvious when a post is sarcastic and people who can't recognize it might better get off the internet.

                        [–]itoitoito 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Do you want to ban the use of the script "/s" or sarcasm? Either way the trend on /r/China seems to be going toward no humor and no fun zone. Not because of these rules, but by the shit people have been writing.

                        [–]mrgoodkat1707European Union 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        /s. Sarcasm is obvious, no script needed.

                        [–]hittintheairplane 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        /r/china is a safe place now~

                        [–]castlerocktronicsScotland 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        A welcome change

                        [–]Psychedelic_Traveler 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        I welcome these changes. Came close to unsubbing many times reading through these threads of entitled, angry and bitter expats

                        [–]purpletricycle 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        But that's the best part of this sub, it's super real and let's you blow off steam. There are no rose tinted glasses here because people here KNOW China because they've experienced it for years NOT from what they read in school or had some short vacation 15 years ago. We get enough of that in the popular subs

                        [–]tan_guan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        You can still blow off steam, still vent, still express your opinions about China.

                        [–]prizunwalletGreat Britain 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Doesn't sound like it

                        [–]ExcaliburZSH 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        You can only get you point across by using rainy, rocky and Nong?

                        [–]ExcaliburZSH 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        entitled, angry and bitter expats

                        Well the country makes people angry and bitter...especially the citizens of the country. We are also on of best places to get travel advice because most of our posters have been to a lot of places.

                        [–]togetherforever87 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Glorious censorship, much harmony! Double Plus good!

                        [–]supercharged0708 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Ok let's use the names Tom and Reiny instead.

                        [–]impossinatorHong Kong 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

                        Shameful announcement. Increasingly, this is becoming a "community" of overly-sensitive crybabies and language control freaks. Like China itself. For shame.

                        [–]sturleJapan 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        A bunch of fucking anal retentive crybabies. I'm leaving now. I'll be on voat.

                        [–]temnotaPortugal -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Time to write a script to repost the feed of high-scoring posts from /r/China to /v/China and comment whatever tf we like. Ohhhhh poor us, we won't have to sort through mountains of garbage from people too stupid to use the search bar, how will we ever accommodate them with PC language if we can't see their posts? It will be sooooooo awful!

                        [–]tan_guan[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Feel free! In the meantime, if you need a free speech zone where you can use offensive language to your heart's content, may I suggest Shanghaiist or Youtube for their unmoderated but stimulating comment sections.

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                          [–]DeceptichumAustralia 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          Can I get some leeway on nong? It's actually its own word here in Australia.

                          [–]tan_guan[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          Depends on the context, but there is no need to worry about being banned for that usage, if your comment gets removed you can message the mods.

                          Seriously though, how often do you use the word nong that way on reddit?

                          [–]jpr64New Zealand 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Can't beat a nice bottle of Nongfu Spring.

                          [–]BranchOfTheTree 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Fresh from the finest rusty tap in industrialized Zhejiang!

                          [–]jpr64New Zealand 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I actually visited the Wahaha water bottling factory in Xiasha, Hangzhou a few years back. Fun times.

                          [–]DeceptichumAustralia 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It probably won't happen in this subreddit but maybe once every few months, I just enjoy dropping Australian colloquialisms when talking to people from other parts of the world.

                          [–]jingzi_factoryMongolia 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          i feel like nong is more of a euphemism than a slur. Calling a girl Rainy is more playful than calling her a vapid bitch, or calling someone a nong is better than calling them uncultured manual laborers.

                          Makes sense for allowing more newcomers to quickly understand posts though and not need to open the CCJ faqs to translate each time.

                          [–]ExcaliburZSH 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          Calling a girl Rainy is more playful than calling her a vapid bitch

                          Is it really that much better? Other than not having to read vapid bitch how is it better? Some members, including me, know Rainies and Vivians, we have been Tim. But the playful short hand is now becoming nasty and not being playful with some.

                          If someone wants to calls someone a vapid bitch or a uneducated uncivilized peasant, I rather they say that then hiding behind Rainy and Nong. Not that everyone using the terms is but isn't Racism/Bigoty and Sexism hiding behind polite words is still bad?

                          [–]jingzi_factoryMongolia 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          I think when we take away some of the playfulness and critically examine how people treat each other and treat foreigners in particular in China, things will get a lot more negative.

                          Whether that is better or worse, hard to say.

                          [–]ExcaliburZSH 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          I think the playfulness is already being taken away and people are using the terms to hide behind being nasty and then claiming people are being PC or too sensitive. People will find new ways to be playful, life will go on.

                          [–]dcrmGreat Britain 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Exactly how I feel, these things may have been funny at one point but they're blatantly racist terms now (except from Timmy which I never used anyway). Quite frankly I'm bored of hearing them constantly and even if you disagree with this they promote shitposting and circlejerking.

                          It's nice you have a thread describing the water pollution in China as being unacceptable but having the top upvoted comment as being "no*g juice", what's the point seriously.

                          [–]Smirth 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Hi Guys!

                          I am moving to a dank coal mining town where literally nobody speaks English and I will be called FOREIGNER all day, and I feel this sub is unwelcoming because I can't figure out your dank memes.

                          Yours sincerely, REDACTED

                          [–]GuestBobEuropean Union 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Basically this.

                          [–]mohkohnsepicgunEngland 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Sexpat and Fempat still on the board.

                          [–]jp599United States 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Thanks for this. It's an important step to creating a broader, more respectful, and more intelligent community. The circlejerk and casual racism has no real value in a sub like this.

                          [–]derintellectual 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          I'm really not in favour of such censorship.

                          [–]ExcaliburZSH 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You can't find another way to say Tim or Rainy?

                          [–]temnotaPortugal 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          If you want to clean up the sub, start with the millions of posts from people who didn't do a search first. Then you can start language policing like a cuck.

                          BTW we have the kind of community you're describing ("/r/ChinaSJW"), it's called /r/sino.

                          [–]ExcaliburZSH 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          BTW we have the kind of community you're describing ("/r/ChinaSJW"), it's called /r/Sino

                          How is not saying a few words turn us into rSino? See anything about only saying nice things about China?

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                            [–]ExcaliburZSH 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Hahahahah, yeah right. they have brigaded before and nothing changed. Come on there is a weekly bitch at the sub thread and so far we still have all the kids shitting pictures and people run over threads, plus the economy is going to shit threads. Stop having a tantrum.

                            [–]tan_guan[S,M] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            As soon as the white people are muzzled they're going to be back here controlling the discussion.

                            No racism please or you will be banned.

                            [–]prizunwalletGreat Britain 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

                            You give ccj to much creativity credit. These loving terms of endearment have been around long before Reddit was created.

                            [–]foreignscumball9 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            What about a whole sub-genre of erotica dedicated to China's great leader? Does that not deserve some creative credit?

                            [–]rockyrainyChina 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Does it involve furries?

                            [–]TheDark1 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

                            Except nong, they really haven't.

                            [–]Aan2007 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            and except rainy

                            [–]SveHeapsArgentina 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            And except Tim

                            [–]jingzi_factoryMongolia 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            There's sites with timbudong from over a decade ago.

                            [–]ting_bu_dongUnited States 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            So, all of them.

                            [–]ztay 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            God I'm so tired of these stupid liberals safe spaces. They need to pasteurize and harmonious speech so no one gets any bad fee fees. Fuck you mods, you make the world less colorful.

                            [–]dcrmGreat Britain -2ポイント-1ポイント  (12子コメント)

                            Great, hopefully this will clear up a lot of the shit posting and racists.

                            [–]JonnotheMackemEngland 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Great, hopefully this will clear up a lot of the shit posting and racists.

                            It won't get rid of racists, just change the language they use.

                            [–]mprey 6ポイント7ポイント  (10子コメント)

                            Ah yes because language policing has been shown to be a brilliant idea these past few years.

                            Apparently people can't grasp that banning words doesn't make the ideas behind them magically disappear.

                            [–]ting_bu_dongUnited States 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

                            I don't think the point is to have the ideas disappear. It's just to have them go somewhere else.

                            [–]mprey 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            You think racists will go somewhere else because they cannot use a few words anymore? That is exactly the kind of naivete I was talking about

                            [–]ExcaliburZSH 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Some will leave. Count the number of people in this thread alone already vowing to leave. A few will come back to troll and their alts will be banned. Most will get over it. When I first came, people were throwing faggot around like they did in CCJ, meaning every over thread had it at least once. The mods changed policy and it went away.

                            [–]tan_guan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Exactly, some racists will leave, some will be banned, and the rest will be forced to be post without being racist.

                            Thanks for your support in this thread, saving me lots of comments!

                            [–]ting_bu_dongUnited States 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I think that's the intention.

                            [–]impossinatorHong Kong 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Why would anyone who wants to annoy people like you go elsewhere? They love how sensitive and easy to wind up you lot are.

                            [–]dcrmGreat Britain -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            That's exactly the point. Of course racists (and it is racism, period) aren't magically going to go away but does that mean we should be allowing this crap to propagate. No.

                            Ideally people should keep their offensive quips to themselves (they're not even funny) but as you can't always trust idiots to do the right thing making it harder for them to get away with it is the next best thing. Not only these terms of course (see countless racist topics just created for the purpose of attracting these comments), the idea is to make it as annoying for them as possible to continue their unrelenting prejudice so that they eventually just piss off somewhere else.

                            Letting is continue is almost akin to deeming it acceptable behaviour, the mod is even being pretty reasonable about it (no bans etc...).

                            [–]tan_guan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Thanks and well put.

                            [–]prizunwalletGreat Britain 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Not everyone can be white....is that your take?

                            [–]impossinatorHong Kong 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            You're delusional

                            [–]nomad2020 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            This is a good thing even if it only stops discussion about that one character in the lesser Independence Day movie.

                            [–]lammatthew725 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            So harmonious.

                            [–]gaosew 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Not Tim too!

                            [–]dexiansheng 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Prohibiting the use of Tim will probably, with time, have a measurable affect on the pronunciation of tingbudong.

                            [–]AAKOBEGermany 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Than we should also ban any China apologist, since they support a dictatorial and racist regime with their comments, praising the mass murderer Mao and support the cultural genocide of Tibeteans and Uighurs.

                            [–]Gaowen_UKEngland 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            So what should I do if I want to discuss the rainy weather here in the rocky, mountainous city I live in?

                            [–]ztay -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

                            Seriously, censorship? What a shame. Westerners are worse than Chinese government. Why do the cry babies get their way, cause the squeaky wheel gets the grease? Have some balls and let freedom Rain!

                            [–]tan_guan[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            censorship

                            It depends how you define the word. There is already a list of racial slurs we don't allow, is that censorship too?

                            I have strong opinions on free speech, but it is faulty logic to think that free speech ideals should be applied to every facet of life. This is a subreddit, not a society, it needs rules as unmoderated forums soon descend into anarchy as has been shown countless times during the history of the internet.

                            In the meantime, you can still express almost any opinion you want in almost any way you want.

                            [–]ExcaliburZSH 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            You can't think of another way to say Tim or Nong or Rainy?

                            [–]LeYanYanFrance 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            LBH or stupid peasant or dumb-dumb?

                            More seriously, I'm ok with this rules enforcement but I wasn't feeling like it was that bad to use those words. Especially Tim, it's just a wordplay and it actually made me laughed when I figured out.

                            Maybe nong is a bit harsh, but others are fine to me.

                            [–]ExcaliburZSH 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            It isn't so much the word or the orignial intent but some members intent is different, more harsh and outright bigoted in their intent. I am basing off people using it in real life, being able to know the whole content and inflection in their voice.

                            [–]itoitoito 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Lol dumb-dumb. "I saw a dumb-dumb pull out his wee-wee and do a pee-pee" This is the future of /r/China.

                            [–]LeYanYanFrance 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            If dumb-dumb is used for Rainy then she may encountered some difficulties to pull out her wee-wee... or not.

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                              [–]laowaispy 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              Rocky is the male equivalent of rainy?

                              [–]ExcaliburZSH 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Pretty much, yes

                              [–]itoitoito 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              He's a also a famous boxer, a fictional boxing movie character, and a cartoon character.

                              [–]fat_stigHong Kong 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              How harmonious.

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