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Answered QuestionWeird/superstitious question about weapon modules. (self.OutreachHPG)

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I'm aware that they typically have 5 upgrade levels. I've also noticed that you can buy them the moment you have at least one upgrade level.

If you buy, say, a level 1 upgrade module for some reason, and you skill up to unlocking level 2, 3, 4, or 5 later, does that purchased module remain level 1?

I never did that. Sounded like a money trap. But was I too cautious?

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[–]robinhood781LRM Atlas :( 4ポイント5ポイント  (25子コメント)

Your previously purchased modules upgrade.

[–]AngryDM[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (24子コメント)

That's comforting to know.

I was VERY paranoid about that. :P

[–]robinhood781LRM Atlas :( 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, when the cbills are scarce I totally get it. I don't even need to worry about them anymore (after 3 years) and I still move weapons and engines around more than I need to.

[–]Terciel1976Rising Storm | Storm Jaguar | Silly Fetish Mechs 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

When they initially released they only went to two (and had negatives, they were worthless), so when they went to five this was important. Note this also goes for other "leveled" modules like seismic.

[–]ZainadinCameron's Highlanders 2ポイント3ポイント  (20子コメント)

Pro-tip don't worry about any mech modules, except; Radar Deprivation and Seismic Sensor. The best two which should be equipped on almost every mech.

[–]mdmzero0That Other Guy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I live for target info gathering. That's one of my favorites.

[–]AngryDM[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (18子コメント)

I do like rate of fire and range on my autocannons, though. :P

Yeah I got radar deprivation. I should invest in seismic next I suppose.

[–]robinhood781LRM Atlas :( 2ポイント3ポイント  (15子コメント)

Those are fine, but not the other mech modules like hill climb or advanced gyro. Weapon modules are good, except for range on missiles, especially range on LRMs.

[–]Zealot_Prime 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean, LRM range can make the difference between someone getting out of range of a salvo and not. Not worth a few million cbills probably, but not useless. Target decay is way more relevant on a lurmboat though.

[–]robinhood781LRM Atlas :( 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, it COULD, but it is really unlikely. The range is already 1000m for those things. That is a LOT of time for the target to get to cover or simply out of range. Adding more range to it increases the already enormous spread at that range and allows for any AMS to take down even more missiles.

Ideally LRMs should be fired under 500m and the closer the better. Don't give the target time to get to cover or AMS to do its thing.

[–]Zealot_Prime 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, my point is that if you're firing on a target at say 900m, and they try to move out of range, the range module might make the difference. If you were running a pure lurmboat and don't have anything else you want to use the 2nd weapon mod slot for, it might potentially be worth. Probably not, but maybe if you just love that mech.

[–]InspectorG-007Clan Ghost Bear 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Range module + bap/ap on those mechs with lots of slots is kinda nice in Solo. For when you try to herd cats...

[–]geneednooClan Green Chicken Thing 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

CoF decreases with range module on SRMs, quite useful.

[–]robinhood781LRM Atlas :( 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Do you mean the spread lessens? That the missile grouping is tighter? I haven't seen that with SRM range module before, was it a recent change?

[–]ForceUser128 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's just the generic srm range module. It's the same thing with the LBX weapons. What the range module does is that while the CoF stays the same at max range, max range increases meaning the CoF is tighter at all other ranges.

[–]robinhood781LRM Atlas :( 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

No kidding? I'll have to try that out. Generally I'd rather have a faster rate of fire anyway since I'm well within range, but it would be good to know all my viable options.

[–]ForceUser128 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Range module (and quirks) are generally really strong. Being able to hit with SRMs just that little bit farther especially is insanely powerful since they don't have falloff, just max range. Getting a snipe kill at 300m is extremely satisfying.

You should try dual LB10X on the K2 with a range module. It increases LB10X range by 30% and makes the cones really tight at closer ranges, practically AC10s at that point.

[–]deadlybydsgn 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, if I'm staring someone down in brawling range (and I had to choose), I'd rather have SRM cooldown.

[–]ForceUser128 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's pretty satisfying getting that 300m SRM snipe kills in.

[–]AnDyzZzoReClan Ghost Bear 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

seismic is absolutely amazing and a must have on my mechs. I only have 2 so i switch them round a LOT! but it really really is the best module you can put on a mech.

[–]deadlybydsgn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I should invest in seismic next I suppose.

Be advised: Unlike Raderp, there are two levels of seismic to unlock with GXP. (it's not cheap)

While opinions vary, my rule of thumb for Weapon Modules is to get cooldown for ballistics and range for energy weapons.

Exceptions might be when your build focuses heavily on a single weapon type, like dual gauss, in which case both might be useful. But if you only have the cash for one, I stick with my recommendation.

[–]ZUDUKAIStar Adder Spec Ops 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

another thing nobody has mentioned is the importance of Target decay with locking weapons, [SSRM and LRM] it's literally all the difference between hitting and missing most of the time when it matters.

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/197055-how-to-become-a-pro-lrm-boat-pilot/page__view__findpost__p__5207578

Without Target decay against an opponent with Radar Deprivation you lose lock instantly.

Without Target Decay against a vanilla target you get about 2.25 seconds after losing Line of Sight before you lose lock.

With Advanced Target Decay against a vanilla target, you get something like 4.75 seconds after losing line of sight before you lose lock.

With Advanced Target Decay against a target with Radar Deprivation you get about 2.25 seconds after losing line of sight before you lose lock

[–]tfun90 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd go as far as to say that it's the third best overall module (unless you need shock absorbers for a non-jump light or zoom for ERLL) for actual fighting mechs, too. Real info warfare - target damage reads, positions on minimap and doritos on hud, and the bearings and courses all held a few seconds longer.

[–]ZUDUKAIStar Adder Spec Ops 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yep, all good points, your target decay does all of the above for your team at the same time.

[–]AngryDM[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very handy. Thank you.