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Reflections on Rationalia (facebook.com)

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[–]FreeTheGroup 39ポイント40ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's really serious about this. I thought he would just let it go, just claim that he was joking or something but no he's sticking to his guns.

Ignorance + Arrogance is one hell of a drug.

[–]AngryDM[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is front-page Reddit's patron saint.

[–]AngryDM[S] 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

"In Rationalia, you would have complete freedom to be irrational. You just don’t have the freedom to base policy on your ideas if the weight of evidence does not support it. For this reason, Rationalia might just be the freest country in the world"

[–]exelion18120Zombie Socrates 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

For this reason, Rationalia might just be the freest country in the world"

In Rationalia, research in psychology and neuroscience would establish what level risks we are all willing to take, and how much freedom we might need to forfeit, in exchange for comfort, health, wealth and security.

These are rather distressing.

[–]AngryDM[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

A clairvoyant-enough machine would tell the Rationalia leadership that being constantly monitored and measured by machines decreased happiness.

[–]shinthemighty 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

"A common critique was the question of where such a country would get its morals, and how other other ethical issues might be established or resolved."

No, not really. Maybe it would help him if he read the articles he posted.

[–]GoodRedditor2016 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

kek

you're right, ctrl+f for "moral" and "ethic" yields nothing on 3/5 of his links, and the other 2 go to the same article which uses the word "morally" once, and arguably not to make that "common critique"

[–]khafra 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's more that he didn't actually address the problem of ethical issues at all; just assumed that there's no such thing as imperfect solutions or tradeoffs.

Technocracy probably isn't impossible to do well, but he has no idea how to do it.

[–]250ccsofyourfather 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

What an idiot. His capital punishment example is particularly baffling.

[–]AngryDM[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

A capital punishment research machine!

[–]PorkyJack 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Death by rational trolley!

[–]AngryDM[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

How does rational trolley execute people? By having 5 people tied up on the other rail? Or do you make the execution target dress like a Muslim?

[–]PorkyJack 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, first you have to weigh all the evidence. And sometimes the evidence is so heavy it might be ethical to kill them.

[–]deep__webMajored in John Green studies 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

We finally see The Rationalia Manifesto, and apparently all the powers of Old Media are in holy alliance against it.

[–]AngryDM[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

What old media?

If you go to a dentist or a doctor's office or a barber shop, and check out the news magazines, there's about a coin's toss chance that the front cover of one of them will be some bullshit NDT would back up, usually with some baby staring at the camera with some techno-cool background overlay and maybe some zeroes and ones.

[–]NeverIgnoreMe 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is slavery moral?

I want to see your experiment idea for this. But regardless of wheter it will be conducted or not, i'm pretty sure it will end up as a reality-show.

[–]AngryDM[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

All you'd have to do is declare how many utilitons are produced by the paid versus the slave labor, and then demonstrate how many more net utilitons by way of slave labor because the slave owner is getting off to being a slave owner. Sort of like the happiness monster, only as a positive because utilitons measure objective good.

[–]thedeliriousdonutpeasant student of philosophy of science 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

While this was here before, there's now a comment on the post.

"I'm not talking about science, I'm talking about evidence is all! Evidence!"

[–]AngryDM[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

One totemic power word is not working. Use another!

[–]Ronald-DumsfeldWhenever I hear of the Sokal Hoax I reach for my revolver 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

We should make our own Rationalia subreddit, it'll be amazing.

[–]AngryDM[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wasn't there one for making fun of Reddit Island?

A Rationalia subreddit would be a hoot.

[–]gangstacompgodthe loser mod who banned you 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Apparently not

[–]AngryDM[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Blah!

[–]Ronald-DumsfeldWhenever I hear of the Sokal Hoax I reach for my revolver 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

r/VivaRationalia

Let's get it started in here

[–]american_spacey 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

In Rationalia, if you want to fund art in schools, you simply propose a reason why. Does it increase creativity in the citizenry? Is creativity good for culture and society at large? Is creativity good for everyone no matter your chosen profession? These are testable questions. They just require verifiable research to establish answers. And then, the debate ends quickly in the face of evidence, and we move on to other questions.

haha fuck that Plato guy amirite