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[–]SherlockedWhovian 284ポイント285ポイント  (36子コメント)

Shooting at my school in 2013. It's was eerily quiet. It happened right before winter break, so they cancelled school for the rest of the semester. When we got back, there were therapists and councilors everywhere. The first day back was more of a relaxed day where you could just spend the day talking to people, there were no real class activities. It was actually nice to be able to interact with the other students in a non-school environment. All midterms became optional, and would not dock your grade if you chose to take them.

Sorry if formatting is weird, I'm posting from my phone. Also let me know of you have any questions, I'd love to answer them.

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Edit: I'm home now! Here's some videos/pictures/links from the event [All SFW]. Sorry about the poor quality, I took them on my old iPod.

Edit 2: /u/Axcien and /u/inyuez also say they went to Arapahoe High School as well. Small world!

Edit 3: One thing I left out of the original post was how much of a nuisance the media was. The school banned them from our campus, but for months following the shooting there was a news truck on at least one corner across from the school every single day. They would stop students on the students' way back from lunch and attempt to interview them. Not cool.

[–]rambunctiousmango 49ポイント50ポイント  (4子コメント)

Was it during the school day? Did people get hurt? It sounds like the school handled it pretty well, under the circumstances

[–]SherlockedWhovian 46ポイント47ポイント  (3子コメント)

It was during the fifth period of the day out of six. The shooter took his own life and the life of another girl, but had molotov cocktails and plenty of ammunition to do more damage. We were lucky.

[–]Kerplunked [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Those texts really got me. That would be so terrifying, for all parties. We always talk about the kids, but honestly if I was a parent I would be terrified to have my kid in school.

[–]SherlockedWhovian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Absolutely. It takes a toll on everyone involved and anyone close to them. I had people I hadn't talked to in years call me in tears asking if I was okay. What was interesting is about ten minutes after it happened, all of the phone towers in the area went down due to extreme usage, creating even more panic. I remember I couldn't reach my brother who was also in the school at the time and I was freaking out. Very scary experience.

[–]inyuez 23ポイント24ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm pretty sure I go to your school.

[–]Heezus 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hopefully OP delivers.

[–]SherlockedWhovian 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry for the delay, I was at college. I've pm'd the user. Will update.

Edit: Same school!

[–]ManBearPig1869 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Man that text chain tho...who's Cuttin onions? That pic at the end got me.

[–]SherlockedWhovian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's actually a pretty outdated picture. The one on the left is the student I was friends with, he actually grew out a beard to match his dads. But yeah, it's pretty powerful.

[–]furlined [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

That text exchange made me cry. What a good relationship they have.

[–]SherlockedWhovian [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

It's interesting that even in the most stressful of situations, his father is able to remain relatively level-headed. When the Dad asks if he has a test kit, he is referencing his sons diabetes. Definitely scary.

[–]furlined [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

"I will be here until I have you." I can't think of a lovelier thing to hear from a parent during a scary emergency.

[–]Rose0Madder [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I remember when this happened, it was horrifying enough just to hear about it. Sorry any of you had to go through that.

[–]this__fuckin__guy 468ポイント469ポイント  (92子コメント)

A Mexican girl got shot in the leg by a rival gang at lunch time at my high school. We didn't even go home, only on lock-down for about 45 min. They hosed off the concrete before second lunch started and we continued on about our day.

[–]iBleeedorange 189ポイント190ポイント  (40子コメント)

Wtf? Where did you go to school juvey?

[–]this__fuckin__guy 162ポイント163ポイント  (34子コメント)

Haha no, but we were a moderately poor public school with a very diverse population and lots of students. We were known as one of the more "ghetto" schools in our district.

[–]cactusflower107 41ポイント42ポイント  (32子コメント)

Gwinnett county?

[–]soldier01073 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Used to live in gwinnett, then lived in dekalb for 8 years, now im in henry

[–]CedarCabPark [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Gwinnett isn't very ghetto overall. It has its pockets, but that's an oddly specific place to call out. I used to live there. Never felt threatened whatsoever in any of the cities.

But oh man is it diverse. It's one of the most diverse places in America. Every race in equal amounts it feels like. I really liked that.

[–]joshmanzors 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sims elementary represent!

[–]namesrue 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sounds like LA.

[–]roguespectre67 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I went to school in Culver City, and I can say that that story sounds like East LA, or maybe Compton. Most of the other areas aren't too bad, even Inglewood.

[–]uncle_monty 41ポイント42ポイント  (4子コメント)

Second lunch? Are you from The Shire?

[–]Softbottom 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lunches are usually split up where half the school will take their lunches at separate times so there isn't overcrowding in the cafeteria.

[–]untroller [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Five lunches here. Our school want too big, just had way too small of a cafeteria.

Lunch spanned two class periods and they were very good about aligning schedules so everyone got one lunch and no class period disruption.

[–]GODstatus66 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

When schools have a lot of students the kids are broken up into two lunches, first and second. So some students have lunch at 11:22 and the rest of it at 11:52 for example

[–]SuplexDuplex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably talking about recess and lunch breaks

[–]cut_your_neckbeard 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sounds like my middle school in Akron in the early 90's. It was mostly dumb white trash, though.

[–]Redsol2 22ポイント23ポイント  (41子コメント)

Hold on a minute. Second lunch?

[–]IamThePurpleFist 50ポイント51ポイント  (34子コメント)

Not American but from what I've gathered from books and tv they split the school into two lunch times so half would go at 12:00 the other half would then go at 12:30. Or something along those lines.

[–]15brutus 43ポイント44ポイント  (27子コメント)

My high school (in the US) has 9 periods in a day, 4 of which (4,5,6,7) are lunch periods. Its kinda needed considering my school has almost 3500 kids in it.

[–]TylerLivingston 26ポイント27ポイント  (23子コメント)

Mine has 4000 and we have one lunch

[–]Satrinix 38ポイント39ポイント  (18子コメント)

Your cafeteria must be a hangar

[–]TylerLivingston 14ポイント15ポイント  (16子コメント)

Nah, we can eat anywhere on campus (within reason of course)

[–]Dj_hardway 20ポイント21ポイント  (15子コメント)

But how do they serve all those kids in one single lunch hour? If youre at the back of the line youre fuuucked.

[–]TylerLivingston 10ポイント11ポイント  (10子コメント)

All my friends bring their own shit but our NJROTC sells lunch in conjunction with the cafeteria so it's not that bad

[–]Dj_hardway [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I bet your lunch hour is fun as hell then, I always loved seeing everyone at lunch. But seeing EVERYONE would be slick as owl shit.

[–]15brutus 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

My school has only a commons area, no open campus during lunch. Not sure about yours though.

[–]-baxtothefuture- 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mine only has 1200 but we have 5 lunches. I have 8th, which is the second to last period. It sucks.

[–]Jaishirri 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

In Ontario, Canada, some schools are moving two a "balanced day" type schedule. We have two 40-minute nutrition breaks where the students eat and have recess. Once at 10:45 and again at 12:15 but that depends on school start times.

[–]Splodgerydoo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In Vancouver I had a 40 minute lunch and then a 20 minute nutrition break before last period. Almost everyone used the 20 minute break as a study period and it wasn't very popular because we'd rather just go home 20 minutes earlier.

[–]Merc_NYC 549ポイント550ポイント  (36子コメント)

My school got bombed multiple times in Bosnia while I was in 2nd grade. We had multiple deaths, including my classmates.

School and community fix what could be fixed, change classes around because we didnt have enough room. Life went on. Education is important.

My parents gave me an option not to go school but I went. I valued school as it was only positive thing I had, yet I messed up when I moved to US and ruined my grades in high school. Even though I'm doing good in life now I regret it.

[–]wasnhierlos 64ポイント65ポイント  (15子コメント)

It I may ask, why did your grades go down once you moved to the US? Was the school system too different or were there other factors?

[–]Merc_NYC [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

My parents were not around much to enforce the rules. I moved here when at the end of 4th grade. My dad worked a construction job and my mom in a laundromat and they had to work ton of hours to support us/pay bills and provide food. This was part of it

The other part was that I lost my drive. I was always top student in Bosnia, in US I excelled in science, math and history but sucked at English. I learned to read it but couldn't write. My grammar sucked, still does to this day. My dream was also to be a soldier, so I learned that you can join with HS diploma, grades didnt matter so I said fuck it. Went from an A student to C.

[–]STOCHASTIC_LIFE 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not OP, but I had the inverse experience which still ended up being detrimental. After immigrating from Romania to Canada, because of the lag in school curriculum, I didn't have to study for nearly 4 years. Then college hit me like a brick wall and I had to re-evaluate my career plans.

[–]FUNKYCH1CK3N800 46ポイント47ポイント  (7子コメント)

Learning an entire new language probably played a huge part....

[–]anniemomo 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Your school continued to function during the war? That's actually amazing

[–]Merc_NYC [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yes, it's amazing and the teachers were determined to do their best.

The school was in a small town, about 10-15 miles from where the frontlines were. First time bombing happened everyone assumed it was accident, second time it wasn't. It was being targeted.

[–]FistoftheSouthStar 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shootings not bombings. That's next level shit I wasn't expecting to read.

[–]Might-be-crazy 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, damn, that shit's rough. Forget first world 'issues', that's some messed up shit.

Godspeed, OP!

[–]Killory_siricalzme 309ポイント310ポイント  (91子コメント)

When I was in high school a well-liked kid shot himself in the head while everyone was in class, with the exception of one other kid who witnessed it.

It was super sad, everyone got sent home early. People were crying and yelling at the news cameras trying to film. Our school gave students the option of counseling and there was a lot of hugs and tears in the hallways for a while.

Edit: Because so many of the posts below seem to relate to popularity, I thought I should emphasize. The kid who shot himself wasn't by any means popular, he was a bit alternative and nerdy, but super smart and friendly. I went to a high school of about 500 students or so, so everyone knew everyone and while he wasn't part of the "popular" crowd he was a familiar friendly face to all the students and faculty alike.

[–]namesrue 267ポイント268ポイント  (78子コメント)

There was a tragedy at my high school where a dad killed his family and himself (not at school, but his kid was a junior) and this particular kid was NOT well-liked, awkward, nerdy type.

Anyway, he suddenly became the most popular kid in school after he died. Who knew all you had to do to gain the respect of your peers was die horribly? There was a t-shirt designed (and sold) in his honor, we had a big moment of silence where kids who barely knew him got all choked up and shit. There were many other things like this. It was abominable.

Definitely changed my perspective of many of my peers, and the depths people will lower themselves to in order to feel like they are a part of something. It was especially easy for me to see myself in that guy because I was relatively unpopular as well. My similarly unliked friend and I made a pact to not let that bullshit go unchecked if one of us were to die unexpectedly.

[–]Quickflicker 343ポイント344ポイント  (20子コメント)

This makes me think of something that happened when I was in high school.

In my sophomore year, a well liked soccer player committed suicide. Obviously everyone was up in arms. Assembly for him, t-shirts made, memorial on his locker, the whole nine yards. I didn't know him, but it was understandably a sad time.

Just about a month later, one of my best friends, Zack, was in a horrible car accident on his way home from school. He'd had his license for less than 6 months. He drove home and was turning from the county highway into his driveway, and was struck by a semi pulling a load of lumber to the nearby paper mill.

The semi didn't stop, and Zack's car was pushed into the ditch. November in Wisconsin, it was already getting dark.

It wasn't until hours later, when his parents let his dog out to go potty and she ran down the long driveway and led his parents to his car, that he was found.

He spent a week in the hospital in a coma, never woke up, and finally died.

Zack, myself and our few other friends were not popular. In our small town high school, we were the weird kids. The gay kids, the kids with bad home lives. The kids with no money. We were beat up, bullied and picked on and treated terribly by our peers while the faculty stood by and insisted "they would talk to those bullies!"

So after Zack died, there was no announcement at school at any point. No assembly. Three of us put a memorial on his locker. Bullies tore it off.

Three days after his death, during 2nd hr announcements, they called Zack down to the office. Even though they knew that his funeral was that day.

No one cared about Zack, no one cared about his friends who were suffering from his loss.

I just wanted to share this, it's apalling to me still, all these years later.

We miss you Zack.

Edit: I know it isn't considered "classy" to make the post-gold edits, but seriously: thank you. I think I'll send Zack's mother a message on Facebook tonight, to see how her family has been doing, and to let her know that I still think of Zack every day.

[–]littlevcu 75ポイント76ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm so sorry about your friend. Zack deserved better.

[–]a-ol 37ポイント38ポイント  (2子コメント)

This was the only post I've ever cried to on reddit. Man I really do hate people. I hope those bullies get the worst in hell.

[–]MrTwo-Face 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats so fucked up... I don't even have words for it. It's just almost too cruel to even fathom.

[–]lazarus870 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm so sorry. :(
I am surprised the school didn't put on an assembly for him.

[–]Meztere [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Similar thing happened in my high school, only the popular girl wrecked her car and the unpopular boy hung himself. Girl has a park built in her name by the crash site. Boy had nothing done in his memory.

Death itself has become a fucking popularity contest.

[–]anniemomo 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is appalling in its truest sense. I hope karma is real.

[–]XxsquirrelxX [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Fuck high school. Even the faculty were fucked up. The sporty kids get all the love, but the nerdy kids get beat up and forgotten. Seems like those stupid high school cliques even influenced the staff.

He deserved more than that.

[–]space_ape71 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

RIP Zack. Some of the best kids are the awkward kids. I wish he could have lived to see the tables turned at the 20th high school reunion.

[–]Colossa-Blocks432 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

That bully deserves to burn in the deepest, darkest, hottest areas of hell.

[–]AndJellyfish 93ポイント94ポイント  (15子コメント)

A boy two years above that no one in my year had talked to killed himself, and lots of people were crying. A couple went to a school service for him. I don't know if they were faking or having a peer kill themself shook them... I feel weird because I didn't cry or anything, yeah I was sad, but not crying. It felt weird because I used to see him going to lessons in the classrooms next to mine sometimes.

My mum said that when she was a teenager, her friend died (they were always partnered together in sports because they were the worst) and "all the wrong people" got upset about it.

[–]ChampagneDro 48ポイント49ポイント  (0子コメント)

A close friend of mine shot himself 5 weeks ago. People who didn't even really know him showed up at the memorial and acted like they were the best of friends, and acted like they lost a sibling. Those same people lost a lot of respect that day from his true friends and family. It's one thing to pay your respects over a tragedy, and it's another thing to try and make a tragedy all about you and what you've lost. Don't feel bad about not necessarily knowing how to feel, or feeling anything at all for that matter. Just goes to show you're not a scumbag that uses a lost life for your personal gain

[–]namesrue 69ポイント70ポイント  (9子コメント)

I got the impression some of these people were mourning their own lost sense of security. Like, "if that kid can die any one of us could." His death was sad because it showed how fragile their own lives were, not because they missed him being around.

[–]kngsbstn 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

I like to think this too. It hits close to home when a peer dies not because you were close to them but because it seems like what happened to them could happen to you too.

[–]stealthxstar 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is 100% true. A few years ago, one of my classmates (in college, so I didn't know him well but we were in the same lab group and he was a funny, smart kid) died of a genetic condition. This guy had apparently been INSANELY popular, because there was a huuuuuuuge memorial service and his family sold pins and bracelets with "WWxD" on them (What Would x[name] Do) to raise money for research on the condition he had. I didn't know him very well but was facebook friends with him; to this day people post on his wall regularly, reminiscing etc. And not only on his birthday.

I wasn't personally affected by his death, because he died after that semester was over and it isn't like I saw him anymore, but it still had a big impact on me and how I thought about mortality etc because he was even younger than I was, I think 23 when he passed.

I also lost a coworker (again, I wasn't that close with him but I saw him several days a week for 6+ months) to a sudden heart attack that was a result of a previously unknown heart condition he had. He was only 24.

So yeah having people your own age dying is scary when you're young.

[–]Kerplunked [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And often, at a young age like 14-18 it's their first experience with death. And it's not like these teens are dying comfortably in their sleep.

[–]Killory_siricalzme 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I wasn't super close with him. I was going through my own depression issues/suicidal thoughts at that time. To witness the shock and sadness in everyone around me, not to mention the permanence of his absence and the effect he had on the person who witnessed his death (he didn't handle it well); it really made me try harder to pull myself away from those thoughts.

[–]arazamatazguy 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think "all the wrong people" back then are the the people today that are the most frequent facebook posters.

[–]Quote_Poop 62ポイント63ポイント  (8子コメント)

I became disenfranchised with my peers when the opposite happened. Four very popular students died over a spring break vacation trip to Florida. They were being dumb and they crashed the car. It very sadly killed them all.

These high school seniors all got the works after their death. Multiple news stations were holding separate fundraisers for funerals, the school had benches made with these kids' names, etc. They offered counselling for every student in high school and middle school, we all attended sessions where we talked about death, and everyone was crying and broken up about the whole ordeal.

A few years later, a student took his own life. This guy was a nerdy, stuck to himself type. He was having problems at home, didn't have many friends at school, but wasn't a bad kid. A couple of my friends knew him a bit.

This kid got nothing. Not a fundraiser, not a group get together, nothing. The school just announced that he passed in passing during an announcement. No one fake-cried for this kid. No one got free counseling after his passing. He received no park benches.

To this day, I can name the four kids that died. Not because I liked them (three of the four were assholes to less popular kids, and one of them had a penchant for fucking middle schoolers), but because it was shoved in my face. But the kid who killed himself? I couldn't even tell you his name, let alone what he looked like.

[–]Aprilburn 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

Psychologists actually advise schools not to do fundraisers, memorials, assemblies, etc. after a suicide. It sounded horrible when I fist heard about it but they do it to prevent suicide chains. While it is also advised that all deaths be treated the same you have to be careful with a suicide. It's a hard balance. Students that are at-risk for suicide can be really impacted by a memorial or any sensational coverage of a completed suicide.

Schools are encouraged to allow for private ways for students to grieve such as writing notes to the family, small group meetings, or participating in suicide prevention programs.

That being said your school should have had counseling available. The fact that they didn't is ridiculous.

[–]Ny_Bruker 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

While I do agree with your general assessement here, I'd also like to point out that the unpopular kid's parents/relatives might not be that interested in having all that attention on them, given that his was a suicide.

That your son/friend/cousin killed himself is not something i can imagine people wanting to bring general attention to.

[–]Quote_Poop 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

If that was the family's wishes, I don't think they would have announced his death over the announcements. But, even still, they should have at least said something about counselors being available if you needed one.

[–]munchies777 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

A friend of mine committed suicide, and their parents asked that we not make a big deal out of it on social media or in general. It seemed a little wrong to me, but it's not like I would defy their wishes, especially considering they weren't estranged or anything. Some people don't want to bring attention to it because I assume they are embarrassed or feel like they did something wrong.

[–]PeanutButter707 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had a good friend who committed suicide (didn't go to my school though) and they did fundraisers and memorial services and stuff. I don't think it made the news, but it was still treated as a pretty big thing.

[–]dancingbanana123 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone at my school decided to go kayaking in a local creek during some really heavy rain (this was two or three years ago in Texas with all that flooding). His boat flipped and he drowned. The school became divided between everyone who totally knew him for years and everyone who was saying the guy was an idiot for kayaking during a flood. I was in the middle. I'll admit, it's a pretty stupid idea to do that, but at the same time, it's not a reason to say he deserved it, let alone insult his friends and family who are grieving. I also had people get genuinely pissed at me for not grieving, despite never meeting the guy. I'm not going to cry for someone I've never met. I'm sorry you lost someone you cared about, but that's not my pain to bare.

They made t-shirts for him too, but they were free. But since they were free, they didn't have a lot of them, so people who didn't know him were getting them and ended up taking them all before people who actually knew him could get one.

Oh, also someone at his funeral, with the news and his family present, went to the podium and talked about how his son bullied him and how he was glad he was dead (which ended up being a lie). So there's that.

[–]watches_u_p 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think this has more to do with people not knowing how to deal with death, at an age emotions are difficult. Its really cynical to assume everyone was pretending to be upset to make other people like them.

[–]namesrue 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think they consciously made that choice, but I do think they felt more comfortable by pretending to care about someone after they died, because they don't how to deal with death. Either way, it's incredibly disrespectful and conceited to try and honor someone like that in passing you didn't give a fuck about when they were alive.

[–]akortank 25ポイント26ポイント  (4子コメント)

This reminds me of the movie Heathers, in which two students kill the alpha bitch and make it look like a suicide, which causes everyone else to consider her a saint post-mortem. They go on staging more of these fake suicides, realizing that "Suicide gave Heather depth, Kurt a soul, and Ram a brain".

Very good, dark comedy with Winona Ryder.

[–]Dthibzz 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, that's a pretty horrifying thing to have happen in your community, no matter how much you liked or disliked the victim. These things always feel like something that happens "elsewhere." I can see how it would fuck some kids up to have it hit so close to home.

[–]ColumbineResearcher 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anyway, he suddenly became the most popular kid in school after he died. Who knew all you had to do to gain the respect of your peers was die horribly? There was a t-shirt designed (and sold) in his honor, we had a big moment of silence where kids who barely knew him got all choked up and shit. There were many other things like this. It was abominable. Definitely changed my perspective of many of my peers, and the depths people will lower themselves to in order to feel like they are a part of something.

That reminds me of the Robin Williams movie World's Greatest Dad. His son was the opposite of popular at the school he went to, where Williams' character was also a teacher. I don't want to give anything away if you haven't seen it but I would recommend watching it because a situation crops up that was a lot like the one you mentioned and I quoted.

[–]Dj_hardway 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Two kids died in a car wreck while I was in 10th grade. The dude was the biggest piece of shit to almost everyone. There was a big mural thing people could sign and what not. Someone wrote over the whole thing in big black marker "should have worn a seat belt you fucking asshole". Good times.

[–]captnfirepants 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

That reminds me of an episode of Rescue Me. One of the firemen, Lou, decides to get some counseling to help cope with 9/11. He goes to group counseling and everyone in the group is visibly effected. Sharing their stories while Crying, shaking, ... the whole bit... Halfway through, he realizes and confronts the group because NONE OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY THERE!!!

So fucked up that people do this.

[–]starm4nn 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you die when there's no one watching
Then your ratings drop and your forgotten
But But if they kill you on their T.V.
You're a martyr and a lamb of god

  • Marylin Manson - Lamb of God

[–]littlecar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should watch Worlds Greatest Dad with Robin Williams. The movie revolves around this subject.

[–]Father33 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

His death may have given way to the other student's introspection. Perhaps a part of their sadness lay in how they themselves treated him while he was alive and how they could have been nicer and contributed to his life in a better way.

[–]Kururingo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry to hear about all of that, that's got to terrible to live through! This sort of display is why I don't like "Rachel's Challenge," an anti-bullying program that focuses on how amazing Rachel Joy Scott was (first shot in the Columbine shooting) and only seemed to focus on "if she wasn't dead" as to the anti-bullying.

[–]TheDataMonster 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Three days ago was the one year anniversary of a close friend of mine committing suicide. Last year, on the first day back, I had a very similar experience to you in regards to other students, and how they treated the experience, even if they didn't know her personally, or were one of people who bullied her in the first place. One year on, and it's just me, her friends, and her family who remember, and not one other person even mentioned the day. We arranged a sort of... mini - memorial service in her memory and, again, about 7 or 8 people were there, including me.

I recognise that it would've affected people in different ways and I may be being brash, but I think it goes to show that people can have front seats to a tragedy they had no connection to, and still have that little voice in their head that makes them stand up when they aren't getting attention and say, "but what about me?"

[–]LaserAficionado 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should watch the movie "Worlds Greatest Dad". It's on Netflix I think. Basically is about what you just described.

[–]ShinyRaticate 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's one thing to honor the person, it's another to pretend that you knew him/like him

[–]OneManGOONsquad 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can't speak for this kid or your situation, but from friends, coworkers, and acquaintances of mine dying I can say you'll never know how someone's death will affect you. While some might have had a shallow intention with the aftermath of his death, there could have been a few with pure intentions. So you shouldn't judge, and it seems like you're just reflecting your own experiences or feelings on it.

[–]Mumbaibabi 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Was this in Wisconsin?

[–]Killory_siricalzme 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

No this was in a small town in Eastern Washington

[–]wargamer620 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

its kinda sad everyone tries to place where this stuff happens and is always wrong, it shows just how way to often it happens

[–]Babbert_Scientific 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sad but, I'm glad that people actually cared.

[–]gymjunkie981 60ポイント61ポイント  (14子コメント)

NIU shooting in 2008 - Nothing was really different except that Cole hall was closed off and there were a bunch of hired security guards patrolling campus along with the university and city police.

[–]illegallad 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

I went to NIU starting the following year. Knew a guy that was in the the classroom when it happened. I can't imagine.

[–]Revekkasaurus 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

My prof moved up to Wisconsin after that... it was his classroom. Super cool guy!

[–]gymjunkie981 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yea, I did too. What's even more scary is that I had class in that same exact to the day before.

[–]Cry3TearsForMe 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

My dad teaches at niu. He was at the business building but he received an email about the shooting and had a lockdown.

[–]Stacieinhorrorland 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

A girl I used to work with was in the classroom (lecture hall?) when it happened.

[–]Yeahitsmeimsorry 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Small world, my dad worked/s at Niu I remember him calling and telling us to turn on the radio, eventually Cole Hall was renovated, looks very nice now

[–]justblaze5687 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

NIU alum here: it is very nice and there's a monument out in front of it for the people who died

[–]mrspeacockwasaman 58ポイント59ポイント  (13子コメント)

We were still in class when a kid accidentally shot and killed the little boy in front of him while the chorus class watched a Disney movie. The school was put on lockdown for the afternoon while the victim was moved and, I assume, people checked to make sure it was an isolated (and accidental) incident.

It was all very, very sad. IIRC the boys were friends. His funeral was the first dead body I ever saw and he looked like he was sleeping, and he was so teeny tiny.

[–]ziane123 30ポイント31ポイント  (12子コメント)

How was it accidental? Why did he have a gun?!?

[–]DerelictInfinity 45ポイント46ポイント  (11子コメント)

My guess is he stole it from a parent or older sibling, thinking guns were just some cool gizmo. I feel like that's how a lot of young kids end up getting shot.

[–]bitterred 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Something similar to that happened when I was in kindergarten. No one got shot but I remember the teacher's reaction when she saw the gun. The kid who brought it didn't really understand what was going on.

[–]Tess47 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

One of my fucking nightmares with my kids. I used to take my kids to the neighbors house to hang when they where 4-5 yo. Our kids were the same age, all boys, yea! I love boys. One day I found out that they kept a loaded pistol in the bedroom side table drawer. Bull shit. I packed up my kids and left and never went back. Here's the deal my kid has autism. I don't think I could have talked the gun from him. What the fuck was she thinking. Her kids grew p to shits so no loss.

[–]buds4hugs [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

To be fair, it's very common for someone to have a gun in their table or under the bed, hopefully locked if they practice good gun safety. What would you do if you're home alone with your kids and someone broke in?

[–]GlitterIsMyProzac 54ポイント55ポイント  (14子コメント)

Columbine. 1999. Freshman. I went back into the school once after, to collect my belongs. Noped out of state. Spent the summer with my grandparents in Florida before moving to Texas and then to Oklahoma where I graduated. I had 3 more years of highschool. Everywhere I went, people seemed to magically know about my past and it became a badge like a scarlet letter. I was forever "That girl from Columbine."

[–]KitKatMasterJapan 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I can imagine that would follow you and get really annoying.

Sorry to be one of those people, but may I ask where you were when it happened/if anyone you knew got hurt?

[–]GlitterIsMyProzac [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No problem. I'm very open to talk about it these days. I was in the cafeteria, just a few tables away from the back entrance they came in. I was still fairly new to the school and a raging nerd with few friends, so the people I knew that were injured or killed were just that, people I only knew of. No close friends.

[–]Bad_luck_throwawayyy [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I can't imagine being best known for such a tragic event that I couldn't control. Do you have friends now who don't know that about you?

[–]GlitterIsMyProzac [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I just recently moved to a new town in January and married in March. So far, maybe only 3-4 people outside of my husband's family knows. It's not something that really comes up during introductions like, "Hey, my name is GlitterIsMyProzac, I was a student at Columbine, it's nice to meet you." People get a little creeped out when an incident happens and I roll out some pretty extensive knowledge and strong opinions. That's usually when I find myself explaining.

[–]Practikality [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Odd and maybe insensitive question, but what do you think of people who idolize the shooters and school shooters in general?

[–]lilstormtrooper 111ポイント112ポイント  (11子コメント)

Had a school shooting in my home town in 2014, thankfully I had graduated the year before but my SO's little brother and my best friend's little sister were there and dealt with it in totally opposite ways.

My SO's brother wasn't in the cafeteria when it happened so he didn't really have any trauma since he was hiding in a classroom on the opposite side of the school. Didn't see anything, didn't see a need to go to the grief counselors, and went back to school with almost no issues. My best friend's sister on the other hand was in the cafeteria when it happened and she's still having a lot of problems. The school had a fire alarm drill not too long after it happened and she and some other kids freaked out and run out of the building and tried to hop some fences into the neighbors' yards. Any loud noise and she has a panic attack. The smoke dectector went off while they were cooking at home and she ran out in the backyard and it took them over an hour to come in and calm down. She tried to transfer out of the school the year it happened but wasn't able to. She has severe anxiety and it's hard watching her get ready to go back to the same school where all of this went down.

[–]Charlito18 41ポイント42ポイント  (3子コメント)

Has she tried seeing a therapist? PTSD is a bitch.

[–]lilstormtrooper 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

PTSD is brutal. I used to work in mental health so I kept an eye on her and made sure she went and saw a therapist. Thankfully, she's on anxiety meds but it still fucks with your mind to have to go to the school and see the cafeteria where your friends got shot.

[–]Charlito18 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok glad she got help. I also work in the MH field and yeah could not imagine having to return there day after day.

[–]pittboiler 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

Purdue shooting, early 2014. I was actually passing by the area minutes before it happened en route to a meeting with a professor, and didn't know what was happening until I met up with a friend in the union when the campus was on lock down. Class was cancelled the next day, and there was a vigil one of the following nights. I actually remember it quite well, since a large portion of the school showed up in unity despite the subzero (I think) temperatures that night.

It was certainly strange, as I was a freshman at the time. But the community helped those affected and the room was closed off for quite some time. Campus unity was something to behold following the event.

[–]Minnesota_Nice_87 68ポイント69ポイント  (7子コメント)

I can't say this was your typical school shooting, but I was the only staff member to witness an attempted murder suicide right across the street from the school. The kids had just finished leaving the playground, and because I was doing my job, I was terrified because the child who lived in the house didn't show up at school that morning. I actually didn't go into the house, but I almost did, because I didn't know where the child was. I ran to a neighbor to have them call 911, am waited with the wife who wasn't able to answer my questions about where her kid was -she was in shock, her husband just tried to shoot her and she got away and we turned to look at him just as he put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger. I had to go back into the school and let the principal and counselor know that student just lost a parent. Thankfully, the mom had some idea it wasn't a good situation so the kid stayed at a relatives house the night before and that's why I didn't see him come walking over like normal.

It was terrible. But truthfully there were many ways it could have gone worse. The mom, child and his friends could have died. The students could have seen this go down. Instead, it was just me.

[–]Sblooshy 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

please reread what you wrote because I can't understand when the house comes into the story

[–]XxsquirrelxX [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Seems that OP was looking at a house across from the school where a student lived. Kid's father commits suicide right in view of the playground. Had the dad gone any further, the mom, kid, and kid's friends may have been killed.

[–]badoosh123 81ポイント82ポイント  (22子コメント)

I went to UC Santa Barbara and was there during the Elliot Rodgers shootings. It shook up the school but life moved on. I was surprised at how supportive the community was and how often they opted to look at the positive things in life.

EDIT: I had the good fortune of being able to take part in a memorial where we all paddled out a bit at our local beach and paid our tributes. It's something I've never done before and I think it's very unique to UCSB culture:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/santa-barbara-surfers-hold-paddle-out-memorial-shooting-victims-article-1.1810332

[–]OPDidntDeliver 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Other than that, is the campus safe? I have some friends going there and I've heard some places, mainly the party areas, are iffy sometimes.

Also fuck Elliot Rodger.

[–]badoosh123 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

UCSB is safe if you are smart but it is a breeding ground for people who can't handle school and being disciplined with temptations. UCSB students themselves are actually fine 99.9% of the time, what sucks is that Isla Vista(the neighborhood where UCSB students live, like it borders the campus) has so many hot girls that live there that people literally move to IV(short for Isla Vista) that aren't college students but they want to just to party in IV.Almost all of them go to SBCC which is the community college 15 minutes away. So now you have a bunch of people moving to a neighborhood SOLELY to party. That is just a recipe for disaster. Elliot Rodgers was one of these SBCC transplants, all the stupid shit that you see that happens in IV are generally SBCC students or people visiting for the weekend. Also, Goleta is the next neighborhood over and it has a massive Latin gang problem. A lot of those gang members come to IV during the weekend(surprise surprise to hit on beautiful women) and start a lot of shit.

That being said, if you're a responsible student(like 99% of UCSB students), it's the greatest place ever. About 20,000 students live within a square mile and it's literally RIGHT on the beach. It's common for everyone to just have balcony/deck parties overlooking the ocean. In fact, it happens like literally every weekend. We also have a collective count down to 4:20 every single soccer match.

[–]Zarathustraa 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

The videos on YouTube posted by Elliot Rogers was disturbing as fuck to watch. Almost like the typical thing you see in movies of disturbed serial killers' videos or letters.

[–]badoosh123 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah. It's honestly still a bit surreal to me and our community. I'm not kidding when I genuinely say it made me question our laws on prostitution. I think if a lot of these guys could just pay for sex and have someone at least pretend to care about them I don't think they would snap.

[–]bryanhardie 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

did you ever meet him or were you aware of him before hand?

[–]badoosh123 63ポイント64ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's actually a really creepy story. I was a CS major and two of my classmates were 2 foreign exchange Chinese students. Super nice dudes, and I was a little older than them so I told them to head over to my apartment a couple times to drink and just do whatever.

Anyways, these two guys were Elliot Rodger's roommates. He came over with them a couple times. Super weird guy that was not good with girls and you could tell it stemmed from sexual frustration. That being said, I didn't think much of it because there are honestly a lot of people like that at UCSB.

Mother fucker stabbed to death his two roommates that were my classmates/friends as well. I hate him, and it's surreal because if I had said the wrong thing to him (which I am prone to doing when I'm drunk), he may have come after me. Idk it's just so weird. Our exams for that class were postponed because our classmate was murdered. I still think about it all the time. I've never known anyone that was murdered.

[–]bryanhardie 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for sharing. I'm sorry for your friends but I am glad you are OK.
Similar:
I used to work at RCC in one of the areas originally targeted by the San Bernardino shooters. I remember interacting with both Farook and Marquez. It's disturbing to know that one of them went on to commit murder.

[–]PancakeMSTR 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's interesting cause I probably woulda been at UCSB (as a grad student at the time of the shooting) had I not gone a different (and arguably stupider) way with my academic career.

Cause on the one hand I will literally never forgive myself for leaving UCSB, and on the other maybe I avoided getting shot?

[–]badoosh123 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah it's a trip. I'm a bit defensive of it but UCSB has actually an amazing academic program both undergrad and grad. Like top 20 in the country status. Our school tries incredibly hard to deter away from the party school moniker but to be honest the school parties pretty hard lol. Nothing wrong with it though as long as your academic standards continue to improve.

[–]PancakeMSTR 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yeah I saw the party stuff first hand. Halloween is, indeed, batshit crazy.

It's a great school. I wish I had stayed for two reasons

  • Location

  • Essentially free ride into the grad school (coming from an undergrad there)

I'm at a point now where I might actually be able to go back (in 2+ years, at least), but it would require me to be, like, four times smarter than I actually am so....probably not gonna happen

[–]Charlito18 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My sister was, too, and lived in an apartment around the corner from one of the crime scenes. I visited about a couple of weeks after and it was really surreal seeing the memorials on the sidewalks and how supportive the community was. Glad you all came out ok and are able to see the good things in life.

[–]popemorgasmxxvi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I remember how the whole community came together after that.. I was at my buddies house down off Trigo when we heard gunshots, tires screeching, sirens going off... only later to hear that one of our friends was hit in the leg by a stray bullet by the 7/11... Was a scary night for sure, calling all our friends to make sure they were safe and okay

[–]makehappyy 43ポイント44ポイント  (11子コメント)

Live about 10 minutes from Sandy Hook, our teacher had to tell us not to tell any of the younger kids what had happened or he could lose his job, we were silent and had the principal come in and comfort us before we all went home and saw the news.

[–]RaddishTree 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I first learned about the Sandy Hook shooting while looking for a current event on a school computer. I checked to see how old the article was and had only been posted three hours prior.

Within five minutes the school was in a lock down. I live like 30 minutes away from Newtown and was actually freaking out during the lock down.

Looking back I was probably one of the only kids who knew why the lock down was happening.

[–]branflacky 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I live in Newtown and was in the high school when it happened, we were in lock down for hours and didnt know what actually had happened until after the school day was over because of the lockdown

[–]alfredosauce1120 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

What do you mean not tell the younger kids? And why? Weren't the younger kids the ones who experienced it?

[–]makehappyy 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't go to Sandy Hook, I had gone to a school about 10 minutes away, and the younger kids at my school had friends there. I didn't want to ruin their day. Especially if one of those friends was part of the 27.

[–]defianttealeaves 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think they meant the kids younger than OP, not younger than the kids who were hurt/killed. The principal probably didn't want to scare them and wanted to let their parents handle it to avoid a bad situation with panicking kids

[–]w-4-wumbo 58ポイント59ポイント  (4子コメント)

When I was a freshman/sophomore in high school, there was a drive by shooting at our school.

Some "gangstas" from the nearby inner-city school (our school's rival) shot at our school from the main road (didn't even enter the parking lot). No one was injured, and it barely disrupted our school day. The JROTC was drilling outside when it happened, so they were the most in danger. The only damage was a few bullet holes in the front of our school.

It was only a school shooting in the most technical sense of the word, but I felt obligated to mention it. Not every school shooting is lethal or devastating.

[–]koolaidman456 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not technically a school shooting, it's literally a school shooting.

[–]Phantom_Scarecrow 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was at Penn State when a friend and co-worker took her rifle to the HUB lawn and started shooting. http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/18/us/penn-state-shooting-is-fatal-to-student-woman-is-arressted.html I was in town, and heard the shots, although it just sounded like someone dropping pieces of lumber on the ground.

Jillian was a smart, talented, interesting girl. She was also very damaged, and had been treated for mental illness more than once. She planned on killing herself, and, when asked, didn't even know why she started firing.

The school was shaken up, and the HUB lawn was cordoned off for a while, but it seemed like everything got back to normal pretty quickly.

[–]Kahzgul 89ポイント90ポイント  (21子コメント)

This probably isn't what you intended (I'm assuming you're asking about mass shootings like you see on the news), but fuck it, there were a lot of school shootings in my life. Let me explain:

I grew up in Oakland and went to public schools. Shootings were a fact of life. We would usually spend the next week running around all giddy, checking out the bullet holes, guessing what kind of gun it was, and finding out which gang did it and who (if anyone) was going to get shot in revenge. It was like gossip time for us kids.

I should note that the vast majority of these shootings were some teenager trying to prove to gang members how "tough" he was. They'd just spray an Uzi off in the air and almost never hit anyone because they weren't actually trying to be killers, just to look like killers. I can think of maybe three kids I went to school with who actually got shot. Only one died.

That being said, there were many other shootings around the schools which were far more fatal, but also not technically school shootings: Some hooker got shot in the parking lot one night, taco bell across the street got held up and the robber shot the clerk, two kids walking home from school got shot for their Jordans.

Again, this was all normal stuff to us. I didn't hang out with the gangsters so I didn't ever really feel like I was in danger (not even after one drive-by shot at someone who was standing behind me).

[–]Highjay 30ポイント31ポイント  (16子コメント)

This feels so weird to someone who lives in Europe. What did your parents think of this?

[–]Kahzgul 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not really sure what they thought. The fact of the matter is that I really did get a world-class education, despite the violence around me. There weren't daily shootings or anything like that, but maybe 1 or 2 a year in elementary school (always drive-bys, always shooting at the buildings, never the kids, and usually when school was out) and then maybe 4 or 5 a year in middle school (usually one kid bringing a gun to school that he stole from his dad or brother and shooting at another kid who insulted him the day before or beat him up in a fight). My middle school was notably more dangerous than my elementary school.

For high school my parents refused to let me go to public school because of the violence, so I went to private school. No shootings on campus, but that dead hooker was in the parking lot of the high school, and there was lots (LOTS) of violence in the surrounding neighborhood. We did not hang out in the area around the school at all in high school.

[–]MooingBee 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

That sounds super fucked up

[–]Kahzgul 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was just normal life. Didn't feel weird or anything until years later, looking back at it.

[–]MooingBee 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

"only one died"

[–]Kahzgul 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't know him, so it kind of felt like

"hey, some kid got shot in 4th period."

"Who?"

"I dunno, one of the gang kids."

"Oh, okay."

It really was like it happened in a different world that I wasn't a part of, even though it was the same school.

[–]francispoop 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dawson College shooting. The atmosphere was very different. It was all everyone talked about during breaks. You could sense the fear in everyone whenever you get in the classroom.

[–]americon 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

There was a shooting at a mall two blocks away from my high school. A lot of students were in the food court where the shooting took place and they put my school on lock down during the shooting.

For a lot of the students the shooting was just gossip and a crazy story. Just seemed exciting and new. One girl stood out though. It was a religious school and we were praying before class for the victims of the shooting. This girl was right next to one of the people who was shot and killed and she ran out of class crying during prayer. The teacher of that classed referred her to a counselor. She never really talked about it again.

[–]mpv81 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, although six people were shot, nobody was killed so it wasn't the tragedy that others have been. So... it didn't feel all that different. Plus the shooting happened on the last day of school, so we had a summer to let it sink in.

[–]whoisthatweirdguy 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

Two kids argued, the younger brother of one took a gun and shot the other kid, he used to sit next to me in school, nothing happened the next day,it wasn't even talked about that much

[–]The-Lying-Tree 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Really? At my school if one kid punches another kid another the entire school knows about it by the next day.

[–]by_whom 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was pretty surreal. I knew we were in danger, but didn't really feel like it. The next day was a quick return to normalcy, as nobody was harmed even though the kid discharged a weapon inside and planted about ten pipe bombs. There were trauma counselors available that went mostly unused, because the faculty did an amazing job of handling the situation before and after. We went through medal detectors for a few weeks, but they wouldn't have done much honestly.

I did score a date with a girl after I drove her home that day though, so that was cool.

[–]OGEkans 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sitting in my old high-school right now about to perform for an alumni choir event, so props for the timely question. Biggest thing is noticing all the "upgraded" security they've implemented since I graduated. Sadly all this really means is more heavy and locked doors, but ultimately doesn't actually lock off any areas.

I'm happy to see that my school is healing and is operating like I remember. It's been a couple years now and all the students who experienced it have graduated so I imagine it's not too hard to forget our ignore. Every time I look at it or hear about it our shooting is the first thing that comes to mind.

So needless to say standing in the halls again really brings it back up. However I don't really feel sadness or anxiety, just melancholy for the time before someone chose to take lives in order to express their obvious need for help.

I only just realized this question is probably geared toward the first days back but typing on my phone is hard so I'll only go into what I remember if there's significant interest.

Thanks for giving me a chance to express my thoughts on something I didn't know I needed to talk about.

[–]Tyrionlannister15 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

In elementary school this guy in my local town was cracked out and decided to go kill his entire family. My hometown is a small island in florida and so the man first went to the local hospital and killed his ex wife in the parking lot along with injuring her friend. He then drove over to the school for his daughter who was a teacher but they locked the front office doors before he could get in. We heard our front office lady over the intercom say the lockdown code and accidentally said "oh my God" and heard a huge crash. Our front office was entirely glass and the guy was pretty insane so he shot himself in front of the office, which was directly next to my classroom. It was near the end of the year and since school shootings were pretty rare when I was in 4th grade(2006) the news(CNN) actually informed my parents before the school could get ahold of them. My teacher was very level headed and didn't tell us what was going on, while the other half of the school knew. There was a lot of crying and confusion that day and it was pretty scary.

The next day was actually the fourth grade seaworld field trip, which they didn't suspend, but it was really early in the morning and there were a ton of news vans outside the school. I really just remember how in class it was so uncommon to hear about school violence that everyone thought something crashed in the office at first, until we heard all the sirens and such. My teacher also looked out the window exit door and since it was right near my class i just remember her covering it with paper and not allowing anyone to go near it.

A few of the kids didn't go and then I think school was cancelled for the fifth graders. It was eerie to come back to school after.

It is a really weird thing to look back on.

[–]name_checker 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Twice, actually. Once at El Camino Real High School (it turned out to be a fake, but I'll still count it) and once at UCSB.

At El Camino, we heard a school security guard had been shot by a carjacker. We were in lockdown for about six hours, along with most of the schools for a few miles. When we came back, most of our classes didn't take attendance for a day or two, and the homework that had been assigned became extra credit. They wanted to give us a few days to adjust to what had happened. No one was terribly beat up about it (though I had some SWAT team assault weapons pointed at me, but that's a different story). A few weeks later, it came out that the security guard had actually shot himself in the bullet proof vest, then made up a carjacker to cover it up.

At UCSB, when Elliot Rodgers shot a bunch of people near Freebirds, I was a few blocks away (Manzanita Village, if you know it) watching Star Wars with a few friends. We heard about it mid-movie, decided to half-heartedly keep watching Star Wars until it was safe enough to walk back to our dorms, and then left. Again, classes were canceled or didn't take attendance for a few days. I don't remember turning in or getting any homework, too. Some of our classes just had the professor go up, talk about the shooting for a few minutes, and then dismiss the class. Unlike the first one, this one really did impact the community; when news vans came around to document people crying at the scene, we started protesting it. We wanted to get over the event in peace, and it felt like the news was making a spectacle of us. Personally, I couldn't stop reading quotes from Elliot Rodger's; I just wanted to understand what made him do it. I still think about it all the time, actually, I hadn't really realized it. His escape route went through my usual morning jog.

So anyway, that's what it's like living in America

[–]antisocialmedic 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was actually absent the day it happened and for a few days following it (if I remember correctly I had the flu). Some girl at my middle school brought a gun to school and shot it off a couple of times in the commons area at another girl. They were apparently sleeping with the same guy and wanted fucking Amok Time over it. Someone got grazed by a bullet but ultimately no one got very hurt, thankfully.

When I went back, security was insanely high. We already had to go through metal detectors every morning before it happened- but they started searching everyone's backpacks and bags when they entered the school. They also would do random searches throughout the day.

There seemed to be a mixed reaction of fear and humor among the students. A lot of people seemed jumpy and a lot of people were making fun of the incident. I'm pretty sure the girl that got attacked switched schools after that and we never heard from the shooter again. I didn't know either of them, but I had seen them around.

[–]Kayak27 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rather than a shooting, we had an incident with a knife. A student was being bullied and one day tried to slash his attacker. No one was injured, and the school's safety precautions went well. I was disappointed, however, at how the bully and bullied were treated. Only the boy with the knife was disciplined. There was no address on school bullying or attention given to the root of his actions. The students thought the whole episode a joke and talked about making t-shirts about "surviving the slashing".

[–]Keep-reefer-illegal 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was a shooting that happened on campus if that counts. Gang related 2 people got shot, one died.

I missed the shooting by like 20 min (typical me, always late for the fun) but I can tell you about what it's like in the days and weeks after a shooting. I was still on campus during the lockdown and still a student after.

So basically it's like when that kid at your high school dies in a car crash or offs themselves, the pretty little posters come out, the "safety is not a slogan" signs come out. They bring in grief councilors and stress puppies (always up for adoption too) and then they have a meeting that's always conviently scheduled when everyone is in class.

The campus police come out and tell you that you can rest assured they will catch the shooter (they didn't for like 3 months by the way, I'll get to that). They tell you they will increase patrols, "if you see something say something" and all the slogans

now on to reality of campus life

I personally watched my back more, everyone knew it was gang related so my biggest fear was retribution, wrong place wrong time type stuff. So I tried to avoid "I'm getting my life together" type folks. I made myself aware of edits in libraries and halls (just in case there was a fight in the library or something too, that happens too at this place).

The entire time it was just uncomfortable, at least until they caught the guy. It's not that you think it will happen again, it's that you know it can. It feels like a safe space (not a "no other opinions zone" but like a secure area) was violated. I knew there was riff raft on campus but I never thought it would get this bad.

You talk to people, some people saw it, some people just heard the gunshots (I saw the body but only from past the crime tape and it was pretty far away, I didn't really know what I saw until the cop told me a guy died at least I think it was the body, again it was far away relatively) and you talk with them. They are more eager to talk or more eager to avoid. Some of your friends drop out.

Yik yak is weird because you can actually comment on what's happening, some reassured others, some accidentally spread false rumors.

I hope that answers your question

[–]Patagonica 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was in middle school when this happened, but my high school is right next to the middle school (they share the parking lot. You can walk from one to the other in a minute or two). The high school gym class for third period (we have four periods) was outside of the school playing kickball or something. A guy tried to shoot an SRO officer that was outside with the gym class for whatever reason, but they missed and shot a girl who was standing right beside him in the neck. However, I didn't know that at the time. I was in middle school, unaware of that. All we got for information was the intercom came on, and the Secretary lady who does announcements sounds terrified and her voice is cracking, and she tells us that we're on a code red lock down. The teachers were emailing each other trying to get information, but none of us knew what was going on. We could see and hear helicopters flying around outside, and we curled up in fetal position behind the chemistry lab counters for upwards of four hours. We had no idea why there were helicopters, or why we were on lockdown, or if the threat was in our school or in the high school. It sucked, and it's weird to be a junior now and remember that, and to think about how much it changed our school (we have semi regular metal detector checks and dogs checking lockers at random, now).

[–]Harmless_kitty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was at the shooting in UCSB in may 2014, The night of it, as you might expect everyone was blasted, and took it almost as a joke. The next morning was really sad, people were quiet, no one partied, as they released the names of the victims, people became more and more down, every one was angry at the psychopath shooter. I didn't know any one of the people killed, but they died because of some stupid ass hole. I went to the memorial, and It was heart breaking, and almost surreal, to see everyone carrying candles in complete silence, (considering this is UCSB) and we stood in silence for a few hours as the sun set. It was one of the strangest moments of my life. But everyone was really supportive of each other, and I talked to a lot of strangers in Isla Vista, everyone was really confused and shocked. ended up hooking up with one of the guys who was working in the store in which several people got shot, it was emotional.