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[–]makechangegreatagain 33ポイント34ポイント  (6子コメント)

Just get into the habit of walking over within 3 seconds of seeing a woman you want to meet. 1-2-3. Showtime.

In order to help defeat that approach anxiety.. Guys should simply just try to be more social with EVERYONE. If you see someone walking down the street wearing a band shirt you like, compliment them on it. If they're wearing the hat of your favorite sports team, compliment. In line at the checkout make small talk about the weather or something..

I had the longest problem with this, not really because of approach anxiety, but just being social feels mentally draining to me sometimes. Like some days, I just don't want to fucking talk to anyone, even my friends and classmates. I wanna just veg out and relax.

It's kind of like lifting in the way that at first, going to the gym sucks.. But you push yourself to do it anyway.. Eventually going to the gym turns into an enjoyable almost meditative part of your day where you get an hour to just not think and focus on getting stronger or faster.

Also, on being social and talkative, working in retail and service industry will help you out a ton with this. It's shitty work, but there's a pretty decent social aspect to jobs like this.

[–]StopBreakingFrame 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

If this was included in the original post, it would have been complete.

I'm pushing myself very hard on this and it's getting a lot easier. Opening is so much more natural when you do it all the time. I'm a social guy who does hardcore analysis from his office at home, so I need social contact.....I just go to the bar and talk with everyone.

It's gotten much easier to talk to potential exploits.....and also easier to qualify them because the opening was so much more natural.

[–]D4rkr4in 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

if you see someone walking down the street wearing a band shirt you like, compliment them on it

I do this pretty often, most guys say thanks, but once I was in downtown Palo Alto, which is a hot spot for super beta software developers and I complimented a guy for his shirt. He just looked at me funny and continued walking the other direction.

Some guys will think you're an weirdo for it, which is pretty sad, but such is the social autism amongst tech workers.

[–]weirdfish42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck em if they can't take a compliment. Even if you were hitting on him, who cares, some one makes a compliment, you say thanks.

[–]rocinantevi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It works but I totally see Austin Powers walking down Las Vegas doing this. Like I said, it works. It's a lot of confidence with strangers.

[–]Soarinc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great point, in fact I usually talk to an employee (just random think like "what time do you close") then as I thank them, I start walking to the person I'm interested in talking to and it feels like I just conversed very recently and got the words flowing like sea turtles through a tuna net.

[–]weirdfish42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Newly single, haven't been on a date in 20 years, and this is exactly what I've been forcing myself to do. Moved to a new town, and every place I go, I make small talk with someone. I sit at the counter at the local breakfast place, chatting with staff and customers. Only been a couple weeks, but already I don't feel so closed off from people. Trying out monk mode, so its not chasing tail yet, but I'm amazed how open people are when you just smile and chat. When I don't act like an introverted creep, they don't treat me like one.

[–]youcantdenythat 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

When out at night, I go for an insta-date. I don't call it that, but after talking and hanging awhile, my a.d.d. kicks in and I want to change venues and I invite her with me. Taking a woman a few different places really solidifies you in her mind. Then I always "get tired of the crowd and invite her over for some more drinks and a movie. Even if she's not up for it, I get her number and text her the next day to set up date #2 which is so much easier than date #1.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAdderallabuse 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Psychologically this works as several venues creates an impression that she knows you longer and can trust you more

[–]weirdfish42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really like this one, and gives a chance to show off the bike.

[–]JackGetsIt 79ポイント80ポイント  (29子コメント)

I've made an acronym.

Approach quick

Quiet, let her talk about herself

Use your body and eyes, be indirectly direct.

Always up sell

There's also the FORD small talk suggestions.

Family

Occupation

Recreation

Dreams

[–]RedNightOwl 64ポイント65ポイント  (19子コメント)

Side note for people that are not aware of FORD. There is also talking points you should avoid unless your with friends or family called RAPE.

Religion

Abortion

Politics

Eonomics

[–]WindUpTerrapin 51ポイント52ポイント  (7子コメント)

I am pretty sure the E stands for Exes.

[–]corsega 46ポイント47ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah, I can't really imagine economics being a sore subject. Hell, any girl smart enough to debate economics with me would be a keeper.

[–]publicpretender69 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Man I couldn't agree more. Most of the women I meet who can even remotely follow along economically are already married

[–]StopBreakingFrame 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's because they know all too well the opportunity cost of the CC.

[–]MoneyStatusLooks 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

A hot woman with an interest in economics.

An oxymoron if I ever heard one.

[–]FriedHayek 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's about not talking about money, because if you do, you're excluding those who don't have as much as you do, or you're excluding yourself by showing how poor you are.

[–]CJBuilds 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most men can't or won't follow along a conversation deeper on economics than Fox News.

[–]Soarinc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I bursted out laughing when I read E stands for economics. That's the most random word that he could have chosen, lol

[–]BlacknOrangeZ 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

But those are all the interesting things...

[–]wanderer779 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why we have the internet. Now we can talk about this stuff constantly without damaging our reputation

[–]j0nsc0tt 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Religion and politics are sort of main-stay topics to avoid with anyone you have just met. Abortion sort of falls into the religion category, but it's rarely a topic of conversation in general I would say. And what's wrong with talking about economics? That's also a subject I'm sure is rarely touched upon generally.

[–]StopBreakingFrame 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Economics and politics are pretty intertwined.....so things can get out of hand.

[–]Shooter-Mcgavinn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is actually a better list for off topic subjects at the bar. Switch the last e for exes and that would be a better list of things to avoid with women.

[–]ArchSudo 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll go with PEAR, thank you.

[–]MoneyStatusLooks 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eonomics

What percentage of bitches know a single thing about economics?

[–]_DirtyYoungMan_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't talk about RAPE at a bar wether you're with men or women

[–]joh2141 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This depends. If you're like most people here this is perfect but for those using TRP for LTR and marriage; better to find out how they feel about these things maybe months in rather than years invested. I agree though during the beginning dating period you just should avoid this topic.

[–]Shooter-Mcgavinn -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a bartender these are also the 4 topics I don't allow discussed in my bar.

[–]statface21 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

FORD is more for casual interactions ie parties, social events- not so much girls you're trying to beef no?

[–]JackGetsIt 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sure; but those are the best places to meet women because the atmosphere is so much more relaxed and women drop their guard a bit. You're also going to meet women in bars and clubs that have groups around them and you will need to converse on the fly with lots of people. Being great with small talk is going to up your social capital for perspective women around you.

[–]glawkneintehn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Plus its low stress risk free practice you can do any time you're out of the house.

[–]Texasjared 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I prefer the DENNIS system. But this is good too.

[–]StinkyDogFarts 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

FORD is good advice. Family is a good way to get them going, it branches to nationality and you can have fun with that. Start with food, it's the least offensive.

[–]ManliestDwarf 69ポイント70ポイント  (2子コメント)

Great tips, well written and concise.

Flaking is a huge problem when trying to pickup women in bars/clubs, always invite them home indirectly. e.g

"Ill drop you home, I just have to grab a coat from my apartment real quick"

Have a good photo of your pet on your phone: "Come meet my dog"

[–]therhymerr 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

bingo, did some tests this weekend. walked up to a few girls to dance and they almost always went for it for :30 seconds. Actually ASKED a few girls to dance with myself and even FOR A friend and they always looked absolutely disgusted...

[–]drallcom3 15ポイント16ポイント  (8子コメント)

Summary: Act!

Don't ask for the date. Instead, just ask for a quick cup of coffee or tea. A small meeting like this is non-assuming, and will get a much higher acceptance rate from women. They won't see it as threatening, and they'll see it as a legit way to actually get to know you. PLUS you'll radically reduce the amount of flakes you get. (Most women flake on dates because she just forgets if she was really into you in the first place. She cooled off.)

Hm, might be the reason why I get next to no flakes. They always say yes to that question.

[–]RPFlame 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

Also, "coffee" gives plenty of room for plausible deniability. "We only went for a coffee" is miles different than "we only went for a date", both in her head and to her friends.

[–]drallcom3 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Going for a walk works even better for me, since it's so much easier to physically escalate. You're already moving around anyway!

[–]glawkneintehn 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's a bit weird, unless you're using it as a here and now thing like get out of the bar/party/coffee shop/house for alone time.

[–]drallcom3 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I literally meet in a park or so, same as you would in a bar. Also works wonderfully in combination with the locations you mentioned.

[–]glawkneintehn 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I get that, but are you saying that you ask women "to go for a walk sometime" hahaha it's just a little bit different than "get a drink sometime" IDK

[–]bcjohnswv 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Plus exercise increases her endorphins and she'll likely be in a good mood as well as want to see you again to experience more endorphin release.

[–]hjgo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is the idea not to ask for a date, but to ask for a specific quick activity such as going for a casual drink, going for a quick bite, or go shopping? Activities that don't hold her hostage of social pressure and thus enabling plausible deniability?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

My favorite upsell...

Want a ride?

It's a ride in an old muscle car, hotrod, or very high powered street machine. Fun, exciting, dangerous, and sinister looking cars work best. Once they say yes, I can get them alone and escalate easily. The loud, obnoxious scary fast cars get them wet, v8s trump 4 cylinders every time.

[–]StopBreakingFrame 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

I drive a '94 Saturn with 197K miles. Yeah.....if don't fuck them before they see my car, I don't fuck them. But, it's paid for!

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's an appliance, very milquetoast. Can easily work against you. My cars are "in addition to" not "the reason for" meaning they fit who and what I am. But driving a sinister looking beast can help you out. A beat to fuck Saturn or Civic can fuck you up.... Unless you play off the idgaf of diving it. Shit, my winter beaters are nearly invisible to everyone, rusty 01 Taurus and a Dakota 4x4. Low key never mind looking at this pos, can still get laid, they simply aren't a feature.

[–]StopBreakingFrame 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah man, I was giving you shit, even if you are senior endorsed.

I live in a city so it's no problem. I have good excuse to walk. I live right next to a light rail station and a 10 minute walk from 8 college bars. I'm a responsible guy! I never drink and drive!

If I had a different lifestyle, I'd have a different car.

The most recent fast car I drove was my last LTR's Lexus SC400. Goddamn, what a first car to have.....I'd call her spoiled but she works extremely hard. Anyway, I drove it way faster than she does and you're damn right, I saw her panties stick right to the ceiling a number of times. Nothing like downshifting to 2nd at 60 and pressing into the seat. 32 valve 4.0 V8. I'm lucky I only got 2 tickets.

[–]rp_newdawn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Financially sound decisions are much more important than materialistic sluts... And that comes from someone who loves materialistic sluts

[–]squidracer 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Worked pretty well when I had my Corvette and bike

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bikes make average guys hotter, fat old guys creepier, and young guys on a bike have to work hard to fuck it up if they aren't fat.

Same thing going on. Fast, loud, dangerous, not particularly safe.

Vettes, it depends on you again. Big trucks, exotic cars, same thing. For what are you compensating? If you look ok and have some game the vettes work as well as anything.

Two of my GTOs are painted. One 70 was satin black for a long time, slammed in front, stock height in back for a sinister rake. Got tons of ass in that thing. Then I painted it the original color which is a very light gold, almost champagne. Very few girls look, and the only change is the color. It's not staying that shade.

The other one, 65, I painted a pearl blue, like the new Ford trucks. Slightly dropped in front, 255 tires out back on TT rims. Rumbly exhaust, but not overly loud like the gold one. It gets attention, far more than the gold one, but not on the same scale as a satin black one does. It's fun but not dangerous hotrod. Works great on 18-24 and 38 up girls. Kind of old guy cruiser vibe with it despite running mid 12s in the 1/4.

My black open header 68, well let's just say it makes panties wet and all I have to do is start the damn thing. The 700hp Firebird with 3.5" header mufflers and huge tires, slammed in front, meaner than hammered owl shit gets pussy damn easy. The bright red 98 bird that runs low 13s actually drives girls away, it screams midlife crisis even though I've owned it for 15 years. What it is as well as the color and stance make a difference. Ratrods get LOTS of girl attention.

[–]squidracer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had all this in my 20s.. Z06 with custom rims and multiple bikes..I didn't even know how to pick up girls when I finally became single because I never had to do it

[–]buli145 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I liked your tips.

But reading about game always makes me confuse. Some say to be more direct, some say to be indirect.. There are a lot of conflitous informations. I guess that one should try'em all and see what works for him.

[–]StopBreakingFrame 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trying stuff is key. Remember, direct vs indirect depends on both the guy and the girl. Some schlubs can be very direct as that's all they have. Some beefcakes would run women off instantly if they were too direct, because they're already intimidating. Look at it from the female point of view. They are horny little critters who are down to fuck if 1) they feel safe and 2) they'll have fun. There are real reasons for them to fear for their safety.......and fake reasons too. Try not to trigger either.

[–]FawnBrambles 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Flirt mistake 2: Flirting with your mouth instead of your whole body.

What other visual cues are there, apart from lingering eye focus? There are some girls that I can just get in the zone and be naturally charismatic with, and then others that I end up trying to think about what to do with my hands or with my legs. It would help a lot if I knew what I was doing right!

[–]Shooter-Mcgavinn 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Work on being more expressive with your face in general. Women live it. Opening them wide, like in surprise or shock at her beauty. Eyebrows etc. id suggest picking up body language books, and work on using your body to show the attraction. Not just the hungry eyes and direct words. Back to the deniability for the women. She can always feign ignorance she knew you were flirting.

[–]Gostkowski 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just get into the habit of walking over within 3 seconds of seeing a woman you want to meet. 1-2-3. Showtime.

I feel need to warn you guys to be careful with this one.

A week ago I saw a woman sitting alone on a park bench. Without much hesitation and without waiting for IOIs, I decided to approach. She was staring in the distance, so I walked up to her and asked "What are you daydreaming about?". We were chatting for maybe under a minute, and then her husband and her kid showed up.

Yesterday I saw a girl sitting alone next to a river, and I decided to wait a little bit and observe the surrounding, just to make sure she's not with someone. Then I proceeded with approach, and it turned out she was waiting for her parents. I jokingly asked her should I run. I thought it was smart to speed things up and get her number before her parents show up.

I'm not advocating people not to approach, but if you see a girl sitting by herself somewhere during the day, it's a good idea to observe a bit from a distance before you decide to approach.

[–]MountedCzarina 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

One time I tried flirting with a girl on a train. She was underage.

[–]snow0616 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was good bro, you left me wanting more. Good Job!

[–]TWYW 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

Great post, hope there's more to come.

About point 3, wouldn't it be better to have drinks, rather than coffee or tea? I think it's easier to escalate at night rather than in the afternoon.

[–]TheOtherWalternate 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Meeting for coffee or tea is a lighter upsell. For many women going for drinks may feel too much like a date.

[–]chadjugo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

And a few of them surprisingly don't drink.

[–]AmericanHistoryAFBB[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Drinks are another way, yes. Coffee or tea is only one example of how you could use this. You'd definetely have an advantage at night time and be able to close quicker if you played your cards right.

[–]Shooter-Mcgavinn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone made a great point above us in the comments. It goes back to plausible deniability. Which sounds better to her friends and parents etc? "We only went for drinks." "We only went for coffee." "We only went on a date." It sounds way more innocent and gives her much more plausible deniability.

[–]joh2141 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Need more things like this post here. Too much "Look at x women acting like typical blah blah blah." I mean I get why they do it but seeing a post like that every time just makes it feel like TRP is now full of just women hating betas. Keep it up with quality posts such as this.

[–]AmericanHistoryAFBB[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, hopefully this post will be seen by the people coming here expecting misogyny. They might realize TRP isn't the boogeyman under the bed after all.

[–]Mckallidon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great fucking post. It's simple and powerful. These are the little things that will even potentially get girls to close on you by just not fucking it up. These are all selling techniques that work in any arena of getting what you want. I liked "indirectly direct". I used to call this being "specifically vague" lol. Women love a guy that can approach without pretense and slowly segue into escalating without it being obvious. It shows executive function and restraint; you're not a bed-wetter or premature ejaculator.

[–]logicalthinker1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If she's attracted to you, it's like being up by 14 points going into the 4th quarter. You'll probably win unless you screw it up big time.

[–]traptrapstar 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tell her it was a nice chat and if she knew any possibility on how to continue it some time. then go have a coffe with her.

  1. she gives you her number (or fb/snapchat/...) without you asking for it.
  2. you don't ask for a date, which usually make her spin pretty fast...

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't ask for the date. Instead, just ask for a quick cup of coffee or tea. A small meeting like this is non-assuming, and will get a much higher acceptance rate from women. They won't see it as threatening, and they'll see it as a legit way to actually get to know you.

I would normally just walk away, and if I see her again, then maybe I'd upsell. That's just me though.

[–]Momo_dollar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Something I've noticed over time when girls reply to anything smooth or wity I say, but thought maybe it was just me and the girls I connected with was today confirmed on a Snapchat news article as being awalt.

Whenever I say anything wity in a flirty way, I've noticed that 99% of girls reply with "that's smooth af" tbf it kills the buzz, it kills the game, imagine having banter with a friend who doesn't banter back and just laughs and says "fuck, that's sharp", a small amount of girls kill it by responding too sexually or trying and failing, I've only known a few who actually respond with anything smart or challenging.

Today on Snapchat is an article about 22 smoothest comments, in each case it's a guy being very wity and usually the girl replies something with "smooth af"

Just proves, girls are not as witty or creative as guys, they are made to be gamed. Out wit a girl and she'll be putty in your hands. Made me laugh, and feel relief.

[–]hamstercide 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good tips, solid post.

How should you approach the coffee though? Should it be a quick "get to know her" event until the next upsell, or escalate, escalate, escalate, venue change etc. until you get her to your apartment that same day and bang her? What should you talk about during the date, is boring "so what do you do?" small talk allowed or are you still trying to game and entertain her like when you first met?

[–]aRedThought 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like this post, I'll throw my hat in here aswell.

Everyone has their own style so to speak. I have two ways that I game, depending on my mood/what my vibe is at the moment. I'm either high energy "party guy" that girls will gravitate towards (this is the one that will have the highest chance of outright fucking them that night) or I'm more laid back and personal (highest chance of getting a date without them flaking)

I was at a party the other night and I was talking to this girl who obviously didn't party a lot. One thing I do is I point out something personal about them, something that you would only notice if you paid very close attention to them. I pointed out that It was obvious she didn't party a lot, she seemed awkward. It's important not to make fun of her when you do something like this, I told her that I was the same way, and still am. She laughs. At this point she's stuck to me like glue because in this hectic environment I'm extremely comfortable and she gravitated towards that.

OP mentioned flirting with your entire body. When you're doing subtle game like I'm describing this is EXTREMELY fucking important. When I talk to her, I have a consistent deep voice. I have lazer eye contact. At least twice during our conversation I'm literally eyeing her up and down in front of her face. Whenever I'm done speaking or whenever she asks me something I take a short pause (not an autisticly long pause) just a normal pause. All of these things draw her in. You ever heard a great story teller do their thing? They do things with their voice and body that make you physically lean in. We are trying to emulate that feeling. When you do that to a women it's like you are fucking their mind so to speak.

Kissed her/got her number within 3 or so minutes.

I'm not saying you have to be this cool fucking mysterious guy, being cold/uninviting is not how you get pussy. I'm just saying that whatever your mood is - stay in that mood with women. If you are hype and you try to dial it down - you will lose all subtly. If you are more introverted and try to be super awesome and fun - you will seem fake.

[–]Khancer 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Step 1. Be attractive
Step 2. Don't be unattractive

[–]JackGetsIt 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The better you look the easier game is. Yes. But you still have to run game. The good looking guys just get quicker feedback and develop faster as a result.

There are lots of attractive guys that fail with women or don't reach anywhere near their potential.

[–]IrishAmericanWhiskey 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great post, and very informative. Im definitely guilty of making these mistakes more than once.

[–]d0lphinsex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

More on this topic:

  • Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion by Robert B. Cialdini (sell methods)
  • The Definitive Book of Body Language by Barbara Pease & Allan Pease (how to read people's body language)

[–]StopBreakingFrame 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bookmarked. From previous experience, these are the things that matter.

This was timely. Last night I was dutifully putting together my OK Cupid account. I was throughly demoralized. I'm looking to plate younger women who will one day make lovely wives. I would never get through their filters. Never. I know from direct experience that younger women will go for limited relationships with the right older guy (who isn't paying to play) but they will never be found online. I don't have kids, don't want kids, and won't take care of another man's spawn, so women in their 30's and early 40's, the ones who would look at me online, would next me without a second thought. Online is an absolute waste for me.

Deleting that shit and going out.

[–]KAMIKAZEOVERCOMMAS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really enjoyed this post. Saving this one OP.

[–]StinkyDogFarts 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Easiest is to pay a little bit of attention to the fashion trends. Attractive girls are into this stuff, simply pay her a compliment on something she is wearing/carrying. Don't compliment HER, say nothing like oh yer pretty or any beta bullshit like that, keep it secular. Then ask her about her job or some dumb shit like that. If you're good looking enough for her standards, she'll talk to you. If the verbiage fizzles out, next target. Number 2 is excellent advice, I see way too many guys try to initiate physical contact wayy to quickly and that puts you in a hole (and further away from hers).

[–]pointguard2534 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Finally got the fucking courage to ask out a girl for the first time. Went to get a coffee, and the girl behind the counter I found absolutely gorgeous. We talked for a while while my coffee was getting made, and she was laughing and asking me pretty personal questions. I never go to the coffee shop, and I'll probably never be back, so I decided to say fuck it, I'll be pissed at myself if I don't try.

I was nervous as fuck, pretty sure my voice was shaking a bit but I told her hey, I'm about to head out but do you want to grab a drink sometime? She said sure, wrote down her number (old school) and gave it to me and I walked out feeling fucking awesome. I think it helps a TON to work through the anxious feelings. Allow yourself to feel nervous, because fuck, if you've never done it before you SHOULD feel nervous. Train yourself not to run from fear, but to embrace it and attack it head on.

Feels good, man. Here's to another one tomorrow.

[–]christhecanadian -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Too stupid to know a cup of coffee is a date?

[–]JackGetsIt 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women will hamster that it's not 'really' a date. That's the whole point OP is trying to get at.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

the hamster is a dumb creature but mighty strong. take advantage of it.

[–]glawkneintehn 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Duh they know, but it gives them plausible deniability and lack of responsibility which makes it low stakes and stress free for them. You're doing activities that could be very "just friends" at first while indirectly showing and entertaining sexual attraction.

RSD Julien likes to talk about creating a fantasy It can be as insanely stupid or unrealistic as you want, but if it invokes emotion she will want to play along and be involved in it.

If I jokingly said "Hey you look really cute, can I kidnap and sell you" If she's attracted she'll probably respond with something to play along like "how much are you going to sell me for" or like "pft you couldn't kidnap a kid if you tried" IDK... Point is she probably doesn't REALLY think i want to actually kidnap her, but she'll "believe it" to play along and feel the feelz and flirt.

Most women are REALLY FUCKING BORING so when you bring something intensely crazy they're going to want to leech off the laughs and feelz and play into the story.

[–]StopBreakingFrame 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree with the gist of what you're saying......I just think women are pushed to not be intellectually aggressive, which is part of why they're so fucking boring. I have never had a one night stand with a woman I didn't argue with for hours on end (about 5)

edit: 5 girls, not 5 hours.

[–]glawkneintehn 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disagree. If I could get laid on command without leaving my bed, I wouldn't have the time nor need many of my interest, intellect, or hobbies.

How do I know this is true? In college I've been "Plan D" (break glass for dick) a few times. often used as rebound sex. I knew exactly what was going on and when I questioned her intentions I'd get something like "you know I could've booty called like anyone else.... but I really like you" fucking really? lol

translation: I called you over to fuck me because I really like you, not because I needed sexual validation after my boyfriend dumped me. Also commitment please or I have other men waiting to fuck me.

[–]MountedCzarina -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Asking only for a drink and intentionally avoiding the word date seems to be a good way to get friendzoned. The girl will think that you're not interested in her romantically.