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FBI report's striking revelations on Hillary Clinton (cnn.com)

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[–]jethroguardian 309ポイント310ポイント  (132子コメント)

The most stunning revelation of the FBI report is that the company housing the server did not actually destroy these emails until late March 2015, after the public controversy over the server had already begun and after a Congressional demand to preserve them.

While Clinton denied knowledge of this fact in her FBI interview, the FBI found evidence of a conference call between Clinton attorneys and the server company roughly contemporaneous with this destruction.

[–]AintGotNoTimeFoThis 170ポイント171ポイント  (109子コメント)

Sorry, we can't prove intent. They could have been talking about their grand kids and golf for all we know.

[–]TurrPhennirPhan 47ポイント48ポイント  (9子コメント)

Mi abuela loves golf!

[–]billb666 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Personally, I love to golf in Phoenix in late June when it's 120 degrees.

[–]flamingboard 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

I prefer a nice comfy, air conditioned private jet with the FBI guarding it.

[–]MontyAtWork 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Play your cards right and you might see a former president!

[–]SmithWessonMP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Tu abuela loves naps.

[–]savage_as_vandal 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Haha, that'll be the day.

Hillary can barely stand up or make it up a couple of stairs without multiple handlers. If I ever saw her swing a golf club I'd have a seizure.

[–]HelicopterJockey [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It was Bill Clinton that was "golfing" when he stopped at the private jet of the attorney general (or something similar) who was in charge of pressing charges against Hillary, should the FBI recommend them.

People questioned whether he was actually golfing, and many people are not happy about the meeting, calling it incredibly inappropriate.

[–]BorisKafka 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

If she tried to swing a golf club she'd have a seizure.

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    [–]beeeeeeefcake 40ポイント41ポイント  (95子コメント)

    At this point I'm at peace with it. The Democrats decided they were ok nominating a felon. The country must decide if they're ok with a felon as president. We can vote against her and allow the FBI/DoJ to pursue justice, or vote for her and choose to have a country where powerful people are not bound by laws and justice. The FBI left it up to us rather than interfere in an election.

    [–]justinmchase 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What if what we want is a country where the FBI arrests people who use abuse their power?

    [–]john1g 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Hillary should just use Nixon's line already "I am not a crook."

    [–]nataliec1977 20ポイント21ポイント  (42子コメント)

    Yes, it is sad that we can even say this. I don't understand how anyone can vote for her let alone defend her. I don't know really any Clinton supporters, and the few I do always say the same thing, she has more experience than trump and the other reason they are voting for her is because trump is a racist l? :(

    [–]slimCyke 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I don't want to vote for Hillary but I cannot stand the idea of Trump being the face of my country. His rhetoric is so inflammatory, his attitude so childish, and his personality so rude I just do not want to be represented by him. Plus this junk about losing means the system is rigged and votes are manipulated is incredibly dangerous, essentially priming the pump for a riot when the results come in.

    [–]dkaump 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Same. Hillary is super shady and doesn't deserve the presidency but Trump is the biggest douchebag of all time and I refuse to stroke his massive ego

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      [–]escapefromelba 23ポイント24ポイント  (20子コメント)

      I think it's more because Trump has so far demonstrated himself to be a highly volatile individual that is prone to knee jerk reactions, has a poor understanding of both policy and the Constitution, changes his positions like the wind, and appears intent on disenfranchising millions of people in this country.

      [–]TheGreatCrouton 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

      changes his positions like the wind

      Remember when Hillary was anti-gay and wanted to bring the black youth "to heel" (you know... Like a dog)?

      [–]ComeInOutOfTheRain 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah changing a position many years later, along with millions of Americans isn't really comparable to changing positions multiple times during a campaign, or even during the course of a few days.

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        [–]Praxxus 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

        ...as though threatening to militarily attack countries who hack us is completely sane and level-headed.

        [–]escapefromelba 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Given that cyberattacks could potentially cripple our national infrastructure - from our financial system, our power grid, our waterworks, and gas lines - I'm not really sure I follow why a military response should be off the table. Personally I think it's important to leave military response on the table as a deterrent from attacking critical infrastructure. I'm not sure I follow why any sane and level headed leader would broadcast anything less to our rivals.

        [–]Animret [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

        why a military response should be off the table

        It's very hard to prove that a state carried out a cyber attack... do we really want more justification for unjust wars?

        Well, Clinton obviously does. But hopefully most of the public doesn't.

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          [–]cluelessperson [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

          I don't understand how anyone can vote for her let alone defend her.

          Because she's a politician with good fucking policies and Trump represents a threat of apocalyptic proportions?! Jesus Christ people

          [–]TheGreatCrouton 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

          I find it funny that Trump gets called a racist for comments he supposedly made in private, yet Hillary has made several racist comments in public that nobody ever brings up.

          [–]HeTalksToComputers 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

          I'm sure since she did there is a public record you can cite here. I'll wait.

          inb4 super predators

          Or maybe you will consider that back in the 70s Hillary was working as an attorney fighting racial discrimination in schools while Donald was being prosecuted by the Justice department for discrimination in housing.

          [–]nataliec1977 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

          Actually in college she was a Goldwater girl and still claims to be proud of it even though they protest civil rights

          [–]cluelessperson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          No, as a 16 year old teenager. She became a Democrat in college because she disagreed with GOP racism.

          [–]UpsettingPornography [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

          Does aligning oneself with a racist group 50 years ago equate to using racially offensive language on a regular basis, in the year 2016? Are those even close in your mind?

          [–]nataliec1977 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Her calling young African American males super predators isn't racist?

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            [–]Fatfaggottreat1 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Not voting for Trump / Pence more because of Pence and what he believes in. Trump isn't actually going to do any work as the president, but he will do enough damage to where I'd rather him not be president.

            [–]digableplanet 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            SCOTUS for me. Clinton has my vote because of it. Far deeper implications than anything else in the election. They will decide the long game of policy.

            [–]rlg [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

            Hillary Clinton is not a felon.

            [–]creditcardclown 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

            this logic is silly. its like saying. "okay so i know this neighbor is a child molestor. but im at peace with it. even though the police didnt put her in jail. i can just avoid her"

            [–]UpsettingPornography [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            It's not like that at all. How was child molestation the first crime you thought of when it came to making comparisons to the disposal of potentially incriminating evidence? Do you see Clinton in that negative of a light that you truly believe she is on par with a child molester?

            [–]Ellimistopher 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

            No, it isn't just like saying that.

            [–]Peepsandspoops 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            You can sort-of live with the child rapist, if the person that is potentially moving in after them is arguably worse than a child rapist, like a Nazi child rapist. I don't think " at peace" is the right term, more like "consigned to this election being shitshow either way".

            [–]cavecricket49 0ポイント1ポイント  (25子コメント)

            Don't forget that what you're considering a felon is running against a cheeto that may or may not be a racist of varying and alarming degrees who has the skin thickness and durability of wet paper and the best words.

            But yes this is shady as fuck. I'm not disagreeing with you in that aspect.

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                [–]breezeblock87 20ポイント21ポイント  (7子コメント)

                geezes fuck. i've kinda zoned out from the Clinton email saga, but this is ridiculous. couldn't she have just turned over all the emails & dealt with the consequences? this email deleting thing just makes it all so much worse.

                [–]justinmchase 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

                What was deleted could be worse...

                [–]breezeblock87 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                apparently. i'm not big on conspiracy theories, but what other reasonable explanation is there?

                [–]justinmchase [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                The point is we can't know what was deleted at this point and we have reason to believe there was more than just wedding and yoga plans so that's a huge problem.

                [–]supercede [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Covering up evidence of pay to play; but I also wouldn't put it past her to sell State Secrets by purposefully mishandling any number of her insecure devices in their use or destruction. She had so many avenues for information leaks that you have to wonder if it wasn't on purpose. State information at her level could be crazy valuable to her foreign friends. They are on record saying they "lost" devices-- maybe they "lost" them into the hands of beneficiaries.

                [–]MAGAtonnage [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Don't worry, wikileaks will let us all know soon enough. Studies have shown that even when undeniable factual information is supposedly leaked by Russia, it is still undeniable factual information. Her days in a tight race are numbered...

                [–]susquehanna_weed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                couldn't she have just turned over all the emails & dealt with the consequences?

                Hillary doesn't do that whole "personal accountability" thing. That's for poor people.

                [–]forzion_no_mouse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Cuz turning over evidence of criminal wrongdoing or being extremely careless isn't the best thing for a presidential candidate to do.

                [–]CTR_Poster_Hanging [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                That's it, she's crooked.

                [–]Plurpburpburp [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                Not only is she guilty, shes guilty as fuck and most of you are still going to vote for her, because trump. You all have fallen right back into line for the two party system that is destroying this country. Abandon both parties. Do not vote for a single one of their reps. Downvote me all you want, but first past the post doesnt matter when dems and repubs no longer receive any votes and they get replaced by two others

                [–]recklesssneks [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                Reddit's demographic voted overwhelmingly for Sanders.

                Hillary's base is old people (who won't see your rant...)

                [–]cuckingfomputer [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                I would agree with you, except this sub seems to be overwhelmed by Hillary supporters in-between now and the end of the Democratic Primary.

                [–]recklesssneks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Everyone's started to tune out the election.

                Hillary's a manipulative and secretive liar with an online propaganda network, Trump is a mental case who apparently has found a goldmine of like-minded loonies, Sanders gave it a shot with small donors but realistically fell short against the corporate-electoral machine.

                I think it's too depressing to dwell on. So people are back to real life, and r/politics will do its thing with the true believers. Or at least that's what I think happened.

                [–]bucklaughlin57 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                Oh, we see it all right. We just have the experience to know it for what it is.

                [–]hugga4u [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                the problem is not the parties, it's the people who elected these two candidates. we have to be held accountable for who we ELECT.

                [–]ndjs22 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                Hey I voted for Bernie in the primaries, don't look at me.

                [–]smilincriminal [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                This is ridiculous. She has literally lied about lying about lying about lying.

                [–]SchlangeHatRecht 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

                The initial review was not based on the content of each individual email, but on key word searches and header information, a process that almost guaranteed that some federal records would be overlooked

                I am tired of seeing this statement over and over but no one bothers to ask: what were these key words used? I understand it was lawyers that did the deleting, but such data is very relevant and should be discoverable.

                [–]HillaryScissorsHuma [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Stefan Molyneux did a video on this earlier, in which he revealed that the lawyer first looked at any email from a state or .gov email address. They then searched the names of government officials, foreign and national. There were other key words used in the search, but you get the idea.

                [–]disturbd [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                "Secret" "Top" "Classified"

                [–]forzion_no_mouse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                I'm pissed that the lawyers did such a shitty job. I'm sure they had tons of interns they could have turned loose on these email. They make their money going though documents. They could have charged hillary for hundreds of hours of work on this. Instead they did a few searches and called it a day.

                [–]squeakysprings 74ポイント75ポイント  (5子コメント)

                Just seems VERY convenient that this happened on labor day weekend

                [–]Indigoh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Other email batches were released on New Years Eve and Independence Day weekend.

                [–]KuztomX 48ポイント49ポイント  (3子コメント)

                It should be unacceptable to American citizens that not only did Hillary do all this shady stuff, but that the Obama administration is helping her out so much by doing things like releasing on Labor Day weekend. They really should stay out of it and be neutral.

                [–]Coyote_American [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Obama is only worried about his legacy. Hillary is a way for his policies to stay in place another 8 years.

                [–]lovesthebj 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                The report was released by the FBI, not the White House. Is there any evidence that the release of the report was coordinated by or influenced by the administration?

                And if the White House had the power to suppress the FBI report, wouldn't they stick it in a drawer until, at a guess, mid-November?

                [–]squeakysprings [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Word. And Obama is concerned more about commending Kaepernick than an actual national security issue

                [–]stillnotking 189ポイント190ポイント  (68子コメント)

                Clinton revealed to the FBI that when she directed her private attorneys to locate work-related emails, she "did not participate in the development of the specific process to be used" and that she was never "consulted on specific emails in order to determine if they were work-related."

                The standard her private attorneys used in making such decisions is unknown and now shrouded in attorney-client privilege.

                Translation: Let me set someone up to fall on their sword, if and when it comes out that records were illegally destroyed.

                I understand people hating Trump, but you need to perform some amazing mental gymnastics to justify Clinton's conduct. Her actions were grossly unethical, and almost certainly illegal if the full truth were known. You're allowed to hate them both; I've been doing it for years.

                [–]omegawarrior3 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                And that is Cheryl Mills.

                [–]jcs1 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                The standard her private attorneys used in making such decisions is unknown and now shrouded in attorney-client privilege.

                I think I know what happened here:

                Clinton: Delete anything marked classified and incriminating.
                ...
                Lawyer 1: What are these (c) things?
                Lawyer 2: I don't know. "Clinton?"
                ...
                Clinton: Fuck! Now I have to make shit up about improper markings and not remembering security briefings!

                [–]breezeblock87 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                exactly. & if the GOP had nominated a person with broader appeal.... god, i really think she'd be getting demolished right now.

                [–]justinmchase 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                That was intentional. They used the media to promote him to put them in a better position in the general. Guccifer 2 leaks show this as an intentional strategy.

                [–]breezeblock87 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                i believe it after witnessing how sanders was fucked over in the MSM. fuck our illusion of choice.

                [–]MurmurItUpDbags 30ポイント31ポイント  (37子コメント)

                Her only argument for her presidential campaign is "Im not Donald Trump". She doesnt have a simgle thing left for her supporters to be excited about. Except the fem-nazis.

                [–]StapMyVitals 24ポイント25ポイント  (5子コメント)

                To be fair, not being Donald Trump is an incredibly strong hand to be playing with against Donald Trump.

                [–]john1g 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Unfortunately it's canceled out by the I'm Hillary Clinton card.

                [–]YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAm 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                You know who else isn't Donald Trump and also on the ballot? Gary Johnson and Jill Stein. The false dichotomy between Democrats and Republicans has only lead to a lowering of the bar. Next election we'll see a literal pile of shit run against the reanimated corpse of Richard Nixon.

                [–]thekingoflapland [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Zombie Nixon 2020

                [–]L_Cranston_Shadow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Not in any meaningful way. The Libertarian and Green Party candidates are on 47 and 42 state ballots respectively, are polling in the low teens at best, and have nowhere near the coverage they need to even have a chance outside of Reddit and their pitifully small core constituencies.

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                  [–]JTSnidely 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I wouldn't go that far. This has been a crazy election cycle and in any other race, her established policy positions would be hotly debated and it would be a legitimate discussion. They're just no room for it in the MSM circus.

                  [–]Obvious_Moose 3ポイント4ポイント  (28子コメント)

                  Actually she's got plenty of things that aren't "I'm not donald trump" https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

                  Yeah she's done shady shit that i cannot condone, but reducing her entire campaign to "not donald trump" is absurd. Not to mention the fact that Trump's entire platform seems to be "screw Mexicans and Muslims, and something about shutting down the Dept of education because reasons".

                  [–]acaseyb 12ポイント13ポイント  (19子コメント)

                  For me, this is exactly it with Clinton. If I read that policy page without knowing the person behind it, I would think it was a great candidate. But I do not like Clinton, and I can't stand the shady things she has pulled. But since I hate both candidates (and I think libertarianism is a sham), I'm voting purely on policy this year. And so I'll be voting for someone I don't like one bit.

                  [–]magneticanisotropy 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

                  Shouldn't you always vote purely on policy...?

                  [–]jzpenny 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Shouldn't you always vote purely on policy...?

                  It's my policy that every American gets a pony. Trust me. Vote for me.

                  [–]MrMathbot 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Vermin Supreme, is that you?

                  [–]jzpenny 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I'm his VP, Jennifer G. Vitus.

                  [–]SnoozerHam 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I want my cocaine toothpaste

                  [–]cuckingfomputer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  No, because a lot of politicians lie about policy that they "plan" to implement. In order to really be informed on who you're voting for, you actually have to do research on your candidate and their previous policy decisions. And pay attention to their policy shifts during their campaign. For example, all the people that voted for Hillary in the primary because she was "just as far left as Sanders" and had a more recognizable name were clearly voting in ignorance, seeing as how Hillary adopted more than half of Sanders' positions in order to scalp more votes away from him.

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                      [–]Ronpaulblican 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Did you read the article? I'm not sure I believe a THING she's got on her site. In my opinion, she's a liar and there's no way she's in any way qualified to hold office. I'm sorry but they don't make Kool Aid sweet enough to make me forget that she hasn't released her speeches to Wall Street, NEEDED a server for convenience (really?), and the fact is although she's not Trump, she's DEFINITELY not Johnson, and nowhere near Weld. These are good people with integrity that have proven they're not for sale and also care about causes across the political spectrum. So why waste a vote on an un indicted criminal or a narcissist? There's an option with integrity. And it's not Hillary OR Trump.

                      [–]femshepslovechild 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I'm a diehard Hillary hater, but I have to acknowledge that she at least pays lip service to liberalism when it doesn't come to foreign policy. The most important issue to the survival of our species is climate change, and she is unfortunately the best candidate. Johnson doesn't believe in federal intervention (dafuq?) and Trump doesn't believe in science. Choosing her for her tepid environmental policy may condemn our species to extinction but at least we'll prolong it as much as possible.

                      [–]Atlanton [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      The most important issue to the survival of our species is climate change

                      You aren't wrong, but the executive branch has the least power to affect climate change compared to all other branches. Meanwhile, the executive branch DOES have the most power to affect foreign policy.

                      And I'm of the mind that we shouldn't be going to war with Russia.

                      [–]ChronicYonik 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I support Clinton's policies, but cannot support a shady, corrupt liar like herself, which is why she doesn't have my vote.

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                          [–]rhandle_stephens 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          We're about to elect Tracy Flick from Election

                          [–]AllTheChristianBales 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Jesus. This damn too fucking accurate. I've feared Tracy Flick for years, and here she is.

                          [–]Wheresmyfoodwoman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Ha that made me laugh because it's so accurate

                          [–]Uruk-high 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Johnson and Weld 2016!

                          [–]Ronpaulblican 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Lucky there's a third, surprisingly good option on the ballot in all 50 states. I realized I wasn't a Democrat during Bill's time in office and I wasn't a Republican after there were no WMDs. So when I found Johnson, I found a great, although imperfect, alternative. And this year, it's been a blessing as I can't stand either Trump or Hillary.

                          [–]YouandWhoseArmy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          In my view we have two people running for president.

                          One who has absolutely no business holding any elected office and that he is even the nominee is a giant joke.

                          Another who is the poster child for everything WRONG with the government.

                          Fuck this.

                          [–]darwin2500 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          Have you heard of the term 'delegate'?

                          [–]local-area-man [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          I don't justify it, but unfortunately Trump is completely unqualified and dangerous to elect. Both parties literally presented their worst.

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                            [–]Wavally 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            "(C)" is for concussed

                            [–]nebuchadrezzar 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            For a political power couple, it's weird that they don't know what "c" means, or "is".

                            We might have some trouble with issues involving "cis" or "isis".

                            [–]omegawarrior3 106ポイント107ポイント  (63子コメント)

                            Extremely Careless. But Not Criminal. Hillary 2016

                            Great campaign slogan.

                            Edit: keep the slogans coming.

                            [–]smohqe 112ポイント113ポイント  (7子コメント)

                            I'm with [Redacted]

                            Hillary 2016

                            [–]salt_water_swimming 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            I Don't Remember 2016

                            [–]WhereRandomThingsAre 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            The Alberto González Defense. So incapable of recalling any details at all you wondered how he was fit to retain his post.

                            [–]JoJackthewonderskunk 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            I'm with Plausible Deniability! Hillary 2016

                            [–]HasAnArchmageFetish 26ポイント27ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            Hillary "criticizing me like anyone else is an unfair double standard" Clinton 2016

                            [–]MrZimothy 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I did not have textual relations with that server. - clinton 2016

                            [–]BREXIT-THEN-TRUMP 36ポイント37ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Hillary "Technically Legal" Clinton.

                            [–]OdinSQL 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Hillary "can't prove that I'm competent" Clinton.

                            [–]Wavally 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Putting the "(C)" back in Clinton. 2016

                            [–]LiquidLogiK[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            I'm Better Than Trump! Hillary 2016

                            [–]OdinSQL 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Brain damaged so can't be proven liable. Hillary 2016

                            [–]BobDylan530 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            That's odd, "Extremely carless, but not criminal" was my tagline on my Tindr profile

                            [–]PBFT -1ポイント0ポイント  (28子コメント)

                            Who is up against Donald "I pay off government officials with my charity money to avoid a civil suit" Trump.

                            [–]rob_banks 3ポイント4ポイント  (20子コメント)

                            Would you rather be the puppet or the Puppetmaster?

                            [–]Friedumb 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

                            As a business man Trump should put his business before all else, as a politician $hillary should put the people before all else...

                            [–]Black_Sin -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            But then if you want to say it like that then Trump is grossly incompetent and unethical and Hillary is merely unethical.

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                              [–]forzion_no_mouse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              Along with "(C) stands for cookie!"

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                                [–]ReDMeridiaN 48ポイント49ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                I just don't understand why she wants to be President so badly. Scandal after scandal, year after year, and she continues to force herself upon us. It's just creepy at this point.

                                [–]contemporarylove 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Power.

                                [–]frogandbanjo 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I disagree. Her life story definitely has a House of Cards vibe to it, and on that show they definitely go on and on and on about how awesome it is to have power, and how stupid everyone else is for "only" seeking money.

                                But I still think that seeking the U.S. Presidency in particular is attractive to Clinton and many others as the ultimate cap-feather much moreso than as a position of power. I think the pursuit of the office betrays their vanity and desire to be validated by others.

                                It's even more true with Hillary because she's also gunning for first female U.S. President, which instantly secures her top billing in history books. It rockets her past many other Presidents even if, in hindsight, it turns out that she wasn't nearly as effective or upright as they were.

                                [–]enronghost 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                its the democrates prophecy. once hillary is president, the fat neutral-gender unicorn will emerge from the sky.

                                [–]WheelyBob 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Is that what will steal everyone's 2nd amendment right?

                                [–]jzpenny 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I just don't understand why she wants to be President so badly.

                                It's not just her, either. It's the whole Democratic establishment. Nobody could allow themselves to see how fucking bad she is, how by any reasonable standard she's so scandal-ridden and cringey that she should absolutely never have been nominated. That this could even happen at all is a testament to how disconnected the Democratic party leadership has become from any actual human beings.

                                But a fair point all the same. If you were Hillary, would you even want to run? I wouldn't. It's clearly not good for the party or the country that she seeks this office.

                                [–]forzion_no_mouse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                $$$$$$$$$$$$

                                That's a great reason. Just like all her and her husbands speeches.

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                                  [–]mithrasinvictus 36ポイント37ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                  Extremely careless yet carefully just short of undeniably criminal 2016!

                                  [–]Real_Muthsera 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Technically legal 2016!

                                  [–]OdinSQL 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  The FBI can't prove that I knew what I was doing. Hillary 2016!

                                  [–]MuchGoodJob 11ポイント12ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                  And if anyone else did it, it would certainly be criminal. Fortunately and most certainly intentionally for Hillary, she is far from alone in this corruption, there are so many high-level players that taking one down could have a domino effect of implicating the rest of them and it would be utter chaos within the government. Basically this corruption has become too big to fail. They have no choice but to protect each other now.

                                  [–]OdinSQL 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  I don't think anyone else would be brash enough to claim incompetence and brain damage as a defense while running for president.

                                  [–]-LetterToTheRedditor 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  To be fair, the alternative was prosecution under the Espionage Act.

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                                    [–]wehavethebestreddits 50ポイント51ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                    FBI: Hillary Clinton is super guilty, but shouldn't be indicted because reasons.

                                    [–]Tiver 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Reasons = She knows exactly what to say to avoid providing intent and thus giving zero evidence that they can convict her on. Thus indictment would fail as there'd be only circumstantial evidence that she intended to do these things.

                                    TLDR; She's slimy as hell and knew exactly what to do, say, and not say.

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                                      [–]aledlewis 63ポイント64ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                      She is a disaster. This is an important story but over half of the votes are downvotes. So strange.

                                      [–]LiquidLogiK[S] 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                      Probably because it's considered an "old" story (from 2 days ago). But some of the stuff on the front page is literally 2 decades old so...

                                      [–]I_luv_twinks 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      This is why the story broke on Friday -- by the time the holiday weekend is over, any questions about it will be laughed off as "old news."

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                                        [–]Friedumb 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Sort by controversial, helps sort through the spin and balderdash.

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                                          [–]Uruk-hai_of_Saruman 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Once again, we learn that Hillary Clinton has no greater enemy than herself.

                                          [–]truthhurts4444 35ポイント36ポイント  (38子コメント)

                                          She is profoundly untrustworthy

                                          [–]Brodusgus 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          Well I don't have to fear a nuclear war cause she couldn't recall the launch codes.

                                          [–]Wavally 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                          Correct the record must have been given the day off, with the whole labor day weekend news cycle break.

                                          [–]contemporarylove 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          They're here with their downvotes... In the defense of their commenting absence, this thread would be pretty difficult to correct.

                                          [–]BorisKafka 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          They're only down voting and not correcting any records because their corporate overlords haven't given them their talking points yet.

                                          [–]rubbingalcoholic [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                          Give them time. It's a holiday weekend! They've been working hard and deserve a break.

                                          [–]BorisKafka [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          It's been just like the good old days this weekend. They are slowly ramping back up to though, probably because they don't live in America and don't have today off.

                                          [–]justinmchase 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I don't think they celebrate labor day in India.

                                          [–]cre_ate_eve [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          Well at a certain point they can't hide behind getting people banned for calling them out, witch hunting, vote manipulation, or generally just berate people into submission, because it eventually gets blatantly obvious and is impossible to hide.

                                          [–]evil420pimp 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          There are far too many coincidences in this saga. Someday the back room maneuvers will be exposed, but it will be too late too do any good. Vindication will come, but not for Hillary.

                                          [–]voteforcorruptobot 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          I bet they said that about Watergate too.

                                          [–]Real_Muthsera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I'm here for you. I really am.

                                          [–]evil420pimp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Quite likely. But we do know more now.

                                          [–]LordCornrowWallace [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                          Good on you /r/politics for not hiding a negative story about a Democrat. Upvotes for all.

                                          [–]beeeeeeefcake [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          Moderators removed it for not having an exact title (it does have an exact title). Then eventually re-approved it. They tried.

                                          [–]jaredb713 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          Also, most of the CTR employees have today off most likely. Just wait, tomorrow at the start of the work day we will get back to the usual anti Trump, Hilary is not Trump articles.

                                          [–]HerbertRTarlekJr 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          The Unabomber and Timothy McVeigh should not have been charged. No one demonstrated they had "intent" to harm anyone.

                                          [–]duqit [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                          I loved Bernie - but I staked my emotions on Comey. Whatever the FBI came down with, that was the turning point for me. I am not a lawyer or a prosecutor - I'm not going to play armchair quarterback from here.

                                          These emails lost my attention. I know she's corrupt , but I stopped caring as much.

                                          [–]forzion_no_mouse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                          "I don't care she is corrupt or at best extremely negligent."

                                          [–]Solidarieta -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Pretty scathing stuff.

                                          [–]TRUMP_MAGA_ -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I hope the stress of all this strokes that bitch out.

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