Hello, or shall I say Guten tag, herrs und fraus. I stumbled acriss this youtube " documentary ", by the name of hellstorm. I'll be doing this as I go, with time-stamps, because that's the easiest.

Because it's late, I'll be forgoing the traditional accompaniment of alcohol, for some lovely tea. about 10 cups. Earl grey, milk and sugar, if you're wondering.

link

So, the video description is as follows:

(History without the dumb dumb portrayal of evil)

I guarantee I get accused more of negative isms than you do. Also a holocaust denier even though I flatly say all the time I don't deny holocausts. Problem is I also acknowledge the holocaust of Hamburg, Dresden, Frankfurt, Nagoya, Tokyo, Kobe, etc. and the murder of millions in Vietnam, North Korea, Iraq, Congo etc and the colonization of the Americas, Oceanic states, and much of Africa. And the tens of millions who starved or were work d to death under communist China and USSR. Yes the Axis raped and murdered and imprisoned people ... About 1/100 as much as The Allies countries have done which they have done for centuries and continue to do today. Japan and Germany have not died a shot in 75 years. Maybe if we understood the horrors and atrocities of France UK America and Russia we wouldn't have so much death and destruction today. Instead the word Nazi is the epitome of evil. It's the state religion. Hold up a sign that says I hate God and have another person hold a sign that says I hate Jews and see who gets attacked first. Evil people are not compared to Devils they are compared to nazis. Why not compare them to colonists? Colonization isn't even over. Israel continues to do it openly. The winners write the history. School text books are state indoctrination.

AYYYYY LMAO!

Let's break it down.

(History without the dumb dumb portrayal of evil)

I dunno, I think it's pretty justifiable to call the nazis evil and portray them as such.

blah blah blah, false equivalences

we know the drill. Intent is crucial in establishing genocide, stop with the whataboutism

DAE ALLIZ KILLED AN RAPED EVERYONE

while the allies did commit war crimes, it was not on nearly the scale of the germans or japanese. Or the italians, WRT use of gas in Ethiopia.

poor poor nazis, being the epitome of evil!

Seriously. The devil punishes those who are damned to hell for all eternity. He doesn't actually kill anyone. The nazis, on the other hand killed millions.

Uh oh-- badtheology.

?The Devil has no eternal punitive role in Abrahamic cosmology. He is the most significant resident, not the administrator of the lake of burning sulphur.

:D

thank you to /u/faintpremonition for that

00:00:00 blah blah blah white guy with bad hair

00:00:12 "by Thomas Goodrich and Kyle Hunt" two nazis. good start

00:00:18 the story you never see in school textbooks in the US. Sigh

00:00:26 the production company logo is the black sun an SS occult symbol. You get what you pay for I guess.

00:00:52 almost at the one minute mark, it look like /r/combatfootage is leaking, but with shitty audio of gunfire over the top

00:01:00 a nice lady is telling me the german army suffered terribly during the first world war. Because, you know, I didn't know that. Also dead body pictures. lots of them

00:01:06 the germans suffered during the great depression too! poor germans, it's almost as if they were the agressors in the war!

00:01:15 sad music and footage from Versailles. poor poor germans. So sad

00:00:26 apparently the communists took berlin? I thought that the uprising was put down?

00:01:44 apparently inflation destroys morality? and only germany was affected by economic woes post-wwi, because the UK wasn't strapped for cash in an insane scale.

00:01:51 "German cities were awash in pornography an prostitution." sounds fun. I still don't see the bad part that deserves the sad cello

00:02:05 I have yet to see anything other than be told how shitty germany is by this woman over archival footage. So far am not impressed.

00:02:13 "the situation seemed hopeless. And then things changed dramatically" Queue weimar? How about Hjalmar Schact? nope. You guessed it THE NAZIS!!!!. You'd think they were highschoolers crushing. "My life was terrible, but then I saw him, and suddenly it was worth living! swoon"

00:02:19 [uplifting music] "soon after the NSDAP was elected the german economy sprang to life, unemployment was erased, building boomed, great projects began." I'll let comrade /u/froghurt explain here

00:02:39 "germany became a happy hopeful nation again" unless you were jewish. no source cited either

00:02:51 blah blah blah, sucking off hitler, he did nothing wrong, time man of the year, happy nazis

00:02:57 "to many it seemed as if a new cultural, political, and economic renaissance for europe was at hand" EXCUSE ME?!?!?? I... Yes, there were fascists, and many of them, but the use of this fucking weasel worded bullshit is really annoying because I can't refute it. Many people did believe this, probably. Many is a vague number.

00:03:06 jews apparenly envy the nazis. Also were working night and day to take germany down. This documentary is really vague. It says "many people" then has pictures of headlines about the boycott of german goods. UGHRGH

00:02:57 lel, nazi germany was the underdog guys! them plucky war criminals just standing up for what they believe in against the world! Never mind that they were the aggressor.

00:03:38 blah blah blah the nazis lost. What is more interesting are the photos from yalta, because I've got some very cool ones from the US Army Signal Corps Photographer's scrap book. look here. they're cool

00:03:51 "Germany was subjected to pure hatred..." well what do you expect after the way you treated the Russians and Jews and gypsies and Catholics and poles and Ukrainians and ruthenians and mentally disabled and Belorussians and Moldavians and communists and protestants who didn't agree with you and dissidents et alia.

00:04:00 "germans, most of whom had little to do with the war, were raped, tortured, slaughtered, etc." yeeeeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... again, ye reap what ye sow. Maybe if you hadn't started the war, slaughtered the civilians, etc. etc. they wouldn't have been so pissed off as to brutalize you, germany.

00:04:15 ohhhh, this is about how germany was fucked up right after the war! That took long enough. We finally reached the opening credits.

00:04:38 they claim thomas goodrich is a historian, but he has no credentials, not even a wikipedia article.

00:04:50 OOOOOH! He's written about the ACW, Lincoln, and the indian wars too! Oh joy, oh rapture, I am not touching those with a ten foot pole.

00:05:08 "the words you will hear are of the victims themselves and teh witnesses to these atrocities. There will be no attempt here to present the viewpoint of the other side, if you want that bluh bluh whining about our friend Victor" Oh great, because that's in impartial source. sigh Still no citations. Not even as youtube annotations.

00:05:35 This film, like the book it's based on, apparently doesn't talk about what the germans "allegedly did to the world" because then you'd realize that what the germans did was quite evil.

00:05:51 apparently there are no words to describe the crimes as detailed to follow. I can think of a few: overblown, whataboutist, equivalentist, deserved, and trumped up.

whinging about Victor and his works of historical study continues, along with sad music and presumedly german people being meepey (mopey and weepey) and brutalized. As does the lack of sources. I'll stop mentioning it because I don't want to do a second by second overview.

00:06:17 apparently this is supposed to be a rallying cry to demand that nothing like the treatment of germans after the war ever happens anywhere again. Next time a country decides to go bat shit, start a world war, kill millions, bomb civilians, be racist, and other nazish things, they should get off scott free, because THE POOR POOR NAZIS. BOOO FUCKING HOOOOOOO I AM SO SADDENED BY THEIR LOSS OF THE WAR AND SUBSIQUENT TREATMENT. That said, the actual crimes against german civilians that occurred are deplorable.

00:06:35 TERROR BOMBING!!!! WOOWOWOWOWOWOOOO! im so scurred I don't know where I was going with that, but it's a shitty graphic. Shame on you, movie.

00:07:28 it should be noted that the first pilots to bomb civilians were germans. Not that that makes the allied bomber offensive ok, but it's not like the germans weren't doing the same thing on what scale they could. It's not the allies fault for having more planes and bombs to drop.

00:08:15 Schools churches hospitals homes ancient art and architecture you say?

blah blah blah operation gomorrah.

Combined bomber offensive etc etc. I don't see how this is unheard of? Am I supposed to be shocked? They were trying to end the war by bombing germany into submission.

Also, yeah, there was a lot of gore involved, that's what happens in war. People die. This is, of course, a new and exciting way of killing new people.

00:14:40 OOOH DRESDEN! I wrote a piece about dresden in reaction. read it here You know where else had towering cathedrals, irreplacable treasures, ornate palaces, and world renowned museums and art galleries? Leningrad. You know what city experienced the greatest cataclysm to ever happen to a city? Leningrad. You know what city wasn't german? FUCKING LENINGRAD. And the nazis did their best to flatten that, sooo, yeah.

00:19:56 I'm not sure what the point of this is? Like, yeah, we bombed the fuck out of the germans. That is a known fact. It isn't anything near the holocaust, it wasn't genocide, it's just a false equivalence. URGHGHGH

00:24:16 over 200,000 deaths! wow! that's like, almost a fifth as many civilians as died in leningrad. A city who had, before the war, a population greater than paris or rome, and more than double Los Angeles. A city of 3.5 million, reduced to 300,000 after the siege broke. In the first half of 1942 the city averaged 100,000 casualties a month Let that sink in.

00:26:13 the subtly named part 2, THE RAPE OF GERMANY!!!!!!!

00:26:24 why are these nice soviet-type chaps being called the evil from the east? DAMN YOU MONGOLIANS!

00:28:21 because the massacre of 72 civilians is the same as institutional reprisal massacres of tens of thousands across europe

00:30:12 WHY DOES IT MATTER THAT ILYA EHRENBURG IS JEWISH? OTHER THAN THAT HE MIGHT BE A BIT BITTER ABOUT THAT WHOLE HOLOCAUST THING?

00:30:34 an hour left. FML

00:31:26 oh, the mongols. Because asiatic hordes. WHY DO YOU DO THIS MOVIE?!?!????

00:32:11 "... The communist commissars, the fanatical political officers composed almost exclusively of jews" You know, sometimes when watching these you forget they're all made by nazis, and then they just casually slip some judeo bolshevism or whatever in there. Fucking hell.

RAPE RAPE RAPE. ALSO JEWISH COMMISARS WANTED TO DEFILE THE CHURCHES OF GERMANY. BECAUSE STALIN WASN'T ANTI-RELIGION AT ALL. NOPE NOT ONE BIT

also, remember the commissar order? How about the hunger plan? These are things the nazis did that were similar. Also rape, they did that too. And murder. And all sorts of bad shit. Like exterminate the poles and jews and gypsies and communists and other undesiriables.

00:38:12 soooo apparently millions were massacred, raped and enslaved? I mean, if you count german jews maybe?

00:38:26 PART THREE!!!!!!! THE BALTIC MASSACRE! (probably not as fun as "Alice's Restaurant Massacree")

00:38:42 lol the film just unironically called the occupied territories greater germany.

00:39:26 YOU KNOW WHERE ELSE IT WAS COLD AND EVERYONE FROZE OR STARVED? LENINGRAD. WHICH HAD IT MUCH WORSE THAN GERMANY DID, BECAUSE THE GERMANS HAD A MORE STEADY FOOD SUPPLY.

00:40:10 apparently flat stanley is based on german civilians that were pressed flat by soviet tanks? I guess it works with pigeons in the road and cars, so why not? It just seems kinda out of place. "Hey Ivan, let's run over all these german civilians" "but Pasha, what if we throw a track, or something" "Fuck it, let's kill these german civilians for sport! and rape the bodies!" "YES COMMISAR ROSENBLATT! HAIL STALIN, BRINGER OF PEACE!"

SO MUCH DEATH. HOLY SHIT. I AM ALL FOR DEAD NAZIS, BUT IT GETS KINDA STALE AFTER 40 MINUTES. SIGH

They mention the Wilhelm Gustloff. Notable is the fact that though it had several thousand refugees on it, it was armed, and not marked as a hospital ship, and as such was a legitimate target for S-13.

00:49:54 PART IV DE feat. In Da West

00:51:02 so apparently the US army was even more hateful towards the germans than the USSR because of "a decade of jewish propaganda" and the US was just as rapey and murdery as the russians.

Also, I'm watching this, and it's very easy to think of this as just another wheraboo wank fest, but then it's like "TEH JOOOOOZE" and I remember that it's just nazi crap.

00:51:42 so, apparently Ike called for the massacre of nazi party members and army officers. Like 100,000 leaders should be exterminated? I've never heard this anywhere, so I might just be looking in the wrong places, or this is made up bullshit.

00:52:12 also, apparently, 10s of 1000s of german soldiers were summarially executed while surrendering. I don't know if they're talking about SS troops, who often were summarily executed, but it's rather unclear either way.

00:54:35 I think I'm supposed to feel bad for the executed camp guards here, but for the life of me, I can't. It might have something to do with them being NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP GUARDS. I dunno.

00:56:07 so apparently the allied troops were horrified that they were ordered to execute their prisoners, yet still harbored a deep hatred for the deutches volk.

00:56:14 LOOOOOOOOOOOL SS being good at fighting (they weren't. There was a wonderful BH post about it, but for the life of me I can't find it. It's 2:33AM here. I've been doing this for like 4 hours now.

00:56:40 Huh, I always thought it was the germans who summarily shot prisoners, ignored the Geneva convention, and neglected their POWs to the point where 1/3 of them died in the first year they were held. Weird.

00:57:13 oh no the allies let the victims out of the concentration camps. So terrible. How dare they.

RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE. STILL NO SOURCES ON AMERIKKKAN RAPES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

00:58:52 the "jewish media" releasing "bloodthirsty propiganda" nice one. Fuckin' nazis, man.

00:59:45 "Eisenhower's pathological hatred of germans". This hatred must be issued by the army when you reach a certain rank, since sherman had it too. Seriously, where do they get this shit, Eisenhower is a german name (eisenheuer)

00:59:48 PART PYAT'! DEATH CAMPS
^{wait, I thought we weren't talking about that part of the war. Isn't that what they said at five minutes?}

01:00:18 "since Eisenhower couldn't kill more armed germans in war, the american desk general decided to kill disarmed germans in peace." SERIOUSLY WHERETHE FUCK DO THEY GET THIS? As an anecdotal counterpoint, a friend of mine's grandfather, Karl, was in the SS, was captured and sent to a POW camp in England where they let him roam around, learn english, go to the pub, etc. He said he liked it, apparently. But that must be propJEWganda.

01:00:34 only a half hour left. Thank god.

01:01:18 WOW WOAH WOW WOW WOOOOAH there nellie. You just called the US POW camps "Concentration camps". That's not the same at all.

01:01:31 and disease killed hundreds of thousands. Where did the bodies go then? I don't get this at all.

01:04:18 I guess the ebil amerikkkans just wanted to kill the germans, right? I don't even know where they're getting this. If this is a well documented thing, let me know, but it honestly seems to just be made up crap.

All this bullshit about Ike slaughtering prisoners is really grating. I've never heard anything about this. Fucking death camps? Oh for goodness sakes.

01:06:45 600,000 german prisoners apparently died in american and french death camps post-wwii. Who'd a thunk. I guess they can give, but they can't take.

01:07:20 the sound quality keeps changing. URGH. Also still no sources given.

01:07:28 часть шестая: ежовщина

01:08:04 LITERALLY EVERYTHING THE ALLIES DID IN GERMANY WAS ACTUALLY A COVER UP FOR RAPE. CROSSING THE RHINE AT REMAGEN? ACTUALLY RAPE. ACTIVITIES OF THE MONUMENTS MEN? ACTUALLY RAPE. PATTON'S CAR ACCIDENT? RAPE. POTSDAM DECLARATION? RAPE. A GI CROSSING THE STREET? RAPE. DENAZIFICATION? RAPE. SOVIET MASS RAPE? ACTUALLY A COVER UP FOR, YOU GUESSED IT, MORE RAPE!

01:08:45 this is rich! trying to spin Leni Riefenstahl as anything other than a nazi propigandist. HAHAHAHHA

01:10:42 LOOOOOOOL they're unironically showing footage from Inglorious Basterds (the beating with a baseball bat scene) while saying that all allied intelligence officers were jews and they were coming back with scores to settle.

01:11:46 and apparently now the nuremburg trials were a sham. Because Mssrs. Goering, Frank, Frick, Hess, Jodl, Kaltenbrunner, Raeder, Ribbentropp, Rosenberg, Sauckel, Streicher, and Seyss-inquart were great people ruined by a miscarriage of justice. sigh

01:12:37 So now the jews with help from the poles are running anti-german concentration camps in poland, because fuck it time to be evil

this continues for a while. Sigh.

01:14:14 "loot" here I think means return the shit that the nazis stole. A process which is still ongoing I might add.

01:14:25 so apparently they went full nazi here and decided, fuck it let's roll with the jews wanted to destroy the PURE ARYAN VOLK of germany. Which they didn't, insofar as to my understanding jews in general 1. Can't agree on anything, 2. don't have beef with germany, just the whole nazis trying to exterminate/exclude them.

01:16:27 no mention of the marshall plan. I wonder why not? Maybe it doesn't fit into their shitty nazi narrative.

01:16:34 the documenatary fails to mention that these works were stolen by the nazis in the first place. Also, no sources for anything yet. Not even a memo shown on screen. The best we got was an old german woman talking into the camera. grumble grumble

01:17:17 it then quotes pattons's antisemetic ranting, which is, you know silly. Of course the anti-semite is going to be upset the jewish guy has a plan.

01:18:53 here we see more rape/forced prostitution of starving children.

01:19:07 what's wrong with abortions? It's their choice.

01:20:23 Teil sechs, Ausrottung der Untermenschen

01:20:36 the churchill voice got me like

01:21:47 well, the flight of germans from eastern europe is well documented, so I'll give them that one, though I've heard numbers closer to 3 million than 11. Who knows. They call it a death march though...

01:23:07 wah wah, I'm a nazi apologist and that's all I do! WAHHHHH! GERMAN LAND LOSSES!!!! (have some [border gore](i.imgur.com/n2eTOJZ.jpg) from my WWI class. We did a versailles conference and I wanted to dismantle germany.)

01:24:02 ooooh that victor, writing his history again!

01:24:17 Część siódma: Lepiej żeby nie było kolejnych części tego gówna

01:24:26 "WWII was the world's worst war" go on... "because of the evil unleashed on millions of helpless men, women, and children" [Proceeds to ignore the shit the nazis did while pointing out everything the allies did, and a lot they didn't, but he seems to think they did]

01:24:45 the evils that befell germany during and after the war were so evil words haven't been invented to describe them, yet that's what this film has been doing fore more than 80 minutes,.

01:25:10 THE REAL VICTIM OF WWII WAS THE GERMANS!!!!! sigh that's all I can do to that, is sigh heavily.

01:25:18 'oh noes, the nazis are so put upon with this vilification campaign that still exists.' Because the nazis need help to be evil.

01:25:45 THAT DAMNED VICTOR! WRITING HIS BOOKS! Because german historiography during the latter half of the 20th century doesn't exist, with relation to the 2nd world war. No german has ever penned a book on it. Not one.

01:26:00 "Year after year, decade after decade, a mountain of movies, tv shows, articles, books, are released with the sole intent of heaping crime and guilt on the heads of the victims" (those being the nazis) OOOH! I GOT ONE MORE FOR THE PILE! I wish I had the full thing on hand, but here

01:27:24 holy shit I'm done. Thank god. Hopefully this meets the rules for R5s It's 0427hrs. FML. I've been at this for six hours, for a 90 minute piece of shit.

If you've made it this far, you deserve a prize. Have a picture of my cat, Bruce. Here. He's watching me type

Feel free to point out any errors in the comments and I'll try to fix them.

EDIT: fixed theological mistake