Yeah I know what you mean. I don't understand how people can be object so much to good old fashioned debate, although I think here and /r/soccer are two subreddits populated by young people so maybe that is it.

Yeah Schneiderlin really grew into the role at Southampton when he was unshackled. He was always a good aggressive player and was always good at winning the ball back but once Wanyama shielded him and he was allowed to get forwards too, he had his best season.

Then he was brought into United and shackled again and I don't think he's good enough positionally to be a defensive midfielder (or rather a defensive midfielder as we think of it). Hopefully he'll grow into the role because he could be the perfect cover man for Pogba, he's tall, mobile, aggressive but also btter on the ball than people seem to give him credit for.

I think a lot of people think he's poor on the ball because he has often been played alongside Carrick and they ended up playing the same role. I remember in the derby last year he and Carrick were played as a double pivot and he was awful. He had no-one to release the ball to and, because they were both playing so deep metres away from one another, it meant the City midfield could push up high on them both and his passing was dreadful.

Then Herrera came on for Carrick and stretched the midfield, and I thought Schneiderlin was one of our best players in the second half and felt his passing improved so much (even pinging out passes to Mata on the right wing from the centre-circle).