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    last night I was taking cider mixed with diph and about 25mgs clonaz (ove r the course othe nighgt)

    I eneded up jumping outn a second story window with blood pouring out my kneecap.

    not acombo for those considering it.
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    Jesus, sorry to hear that.

    What exactly happened, was it a suicide attempt in a perceived moment of despair or where you confused and didn't realise it was a window etc?

    Did you cut your knee before hand?
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    Alcohol n benzos are damgerous together. They're both depressants of the central nervous system n can csuse respatory despeession, even death. They're both downers so can also lead to feeling depressed (alcohol does this alone).

    Be safe x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eveleivibe View Post
    Alcohol n benzos are damgerous together. They're both depressants of the central nervous system n can csuse respatory despeession, even death. They're both downers so can also lead to feeling depressed (alcohol does this alone).

    Be safe x

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    Quoted for truth - benzos and booze can be enjoyable in small doses but never ends well if the dosed is increased. Diph is a nightmare of a drug - knocks me out but then come the nightmares and I can pretty much forget doing anything the next day if alcohol was consumed.

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    Every time I hear someone has taken diph it always seems to be followed by negative outcome, in my opinion x

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    Alcohol? Did nobody pick up on the fact he said 25mgs of clonazepam? That alone is enough to make most people black out and go on a complete rampage. I know someone who took 4 rivtrol 4mg clonazepams and said he lost an entire week of his life. When he woke up he'd threatened to murder the mother of his kids, threatened to murder his own family and then got sectioned for threatening to cut himself. Guy is normally stable too. The half life of clonaz is frightening. hexegram will still have alot in his system just now, before you go doing anything even more stupid like now is a good time to smoke heroin...

    No offense meant hex but you've been around 3 years. Yet you seem to be reverting in intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnafilisevil View Post
    Alcohol? Did nobody pick up on the fact he said 25mgs of clonazepam? That alone is enough to make most people black out and go on a complete rampage. I know someone who took 4 rivtrol 4mg clonazepams and said he lost an entire week of his life. When he woke up he'd threatened to murder the mother of his kids, threatened to murder his own family and then got sectioned for threatening to cut himself. Guy is normally stable too. The half life of clonaz is frightening. hexegram will still have alot in his system just now, before you go doing anything even more stupid like now is a good time to smoke heroin...

    No offense meant hex but you've been around 3 years. Yet you seem to be reverting in intelligence.
    I think we all did hence the warnings in our posts about mixing etc ? There has been a few threads removed so I'm assuming that you are referring to them.

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    25mg of clonaz is a huge dose

    really man, .5 sends me to sleep and walking into tables, 25mg, + diphenidine, that is really really not good.

    glad you are alive, please try to learn from what happened and steer yourself away from such dangerous behaviour.

    Stay safe.
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    Hex, you've got to let go mate. University, good times, women, they're all a 'flash in the pan'. When (if) you get to my age you'll realise this. Look forward, not back, and stop doing stupid amounts of deadly drugs. If Knock was still here, he'd tan yer fuckin arse for you...
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    Combining alcohol with either one of those substances if a recipe for foul ups! Glad you survived that.

    Diphenedine has been around too long. Is it still legal? Government bans Al-Lad, leaves this shit freely available?
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.U.B.A.R. View Post
    Hex, you've got to let go mate. University, good times, women, they're all a 'flash in the pan'. When (if) you get to my age you'll realise this. Look forward, not back, and stop doing stupid amounts of deadly drugs. If Knock was still here, he'd tan yer fuckin arse for you...
    Knock was the first person I thought of when I read the word; diphenidine now I know that none of us know truly it was diph but it scares me when I read of people taking it n never heard a positive outcome of people discussing taking it, personally.

    I really miss knock

    Hex please stop self-sabatazing n get some help. You're taking a lot of downers which MAY be causing your depressed n suicidal feelings that you've discussed on Bluelight a few times.

    There's a lot of people here care for you n worry about you. Please reach to someone before it's too late for you to do so

    I don't any malice in this just want you to be safe n sort yourself out xxxx

    Quote Originally Posted by Si Dread View Post
    Combining alcohol with either one of those substances if a recipe for foul ups! Glad you survived that.

    Diphenedine has been around too long. Is it still legal? Government bans Al-Lad, leaves this shit freely available?
    Would it really matter? People are going to get the if they want them enough, legal or not x

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    .5 sends me sideways, I can't imagine what double figures would do.. I'm a fucker for poly drug use but you're taking it to the extreme Hex..

    Stop it.. ya hear.. go to bed and give ya head a wobble
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnafilisevil View Post
    Alcohol? Did nobody pick up on the fact he said 25mgs of clonazepam?...

    No offense meant hex but you've been around 3 years. Yet you seem to be reverting in intelligence.
    He said "about 25mgs clonaz"

    Which means it wasn't 25mgs... probably about 8mgs, but calling it "about 25" is going to rape eadd of it's sympathy all over again. Hex, why do you keep making these threads... what is it you want!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasyvibe View Post
    what is it you want!?
    Be thankful you're not dead.
    Last edited by ScotchMist; 08-10-2015 at 21:55. Reason: Not funny and no need..
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    ^he looks familiar. Who is he, Wenlock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasyvibe View Post
    He said "about 25mgs clonaz"

    Which means it wasn't 25mgs... probably about 8mgs, but calling it "about 25" is going to rape eadd of it's sympathy all over again. Hex, why do you keep making these threads... what is it you want!?
    He probably doesn't want to be reading stupid posts like yours. Whether he took 1mg and a shandy or 25mg and a bottle of whisky is irrelevant. The point is he isn't in a good place, maybe he does want or need some attention. What's so wrong with that?

    I certainly don't feel raped of sympathy, I feel genuine concern for a young guy who is clearly quite lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchMist View Post
    He probably doesn't want to be reading stupid posts like yours. Whether he took 1mg and a shandy or 25mg and a bottle of whisky is irrelevant. The point is he isn't in a good place, maybe he does want or need some attention. What's so wrong with that?

    I certainly don't feel raped of sympathy, I feel genuine concern for a young guy who is clearly quite lost.
    Agreed.

    And IF Hex was/is attention seeking then he has obviously lacked that attention in the past n is in need of it as well as compassion n empathy. That's what he needs not judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchMist View Post
    He probably doesn't want to be reading stupid posts like yours. Whether he took 1mg and a shandy or 25mg and a bottle of whisky is irrelevant. The point is he isn't in a good place, maybe he does want or need some attention. What's so wrong with that?

    I certainly don't feel raped of sympathy, I feel genuine concern for a young guy who is clearly quite lost.
    I agree he cannot be in a good place regardless, and it's wrong to judge as people do develop bad habits in the way they express themselves and maybe he has difficulty in helping that... but at the same time i am happy to make a point of it, because I feel if he is down for any reason, he can come forward and talk honestly and i'm sure enough people will give him the required attention anyway. The frequent attention claims however are unneccessary and perhaps unfair on other posters who are devoting their time whilst unaware of the disingenuous nature of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eveleivibe View Post

    Would it really matter? People are going to get the if they want them enough, legal or not x

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    I think it would. In a world where all the good drugs are illegal, no-one will bother making & trying to sell a shit one. In other words. If you're buying your dissociatves on the black market, why buy dangerous new crap like this when you could get good old ket.

    Equally, if we all existed in some imagninary legal drugs market, stuff like Diphenedine would never have got out of the starting blocks. It's only because Diphenedine is one of only a few available dissociative compounds that people will take it & the only reason it's available is becasue people are paying to take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasyvibe View Post
    The frequent attention claims however are unneccessary and perhaps unfair on other posters who are devoting their time whilst unaware of the disingenuous nature of them.
    Raas you clod, THAT is real rich coming from you



    And 100% agreed that no one would buy Diphenidine if it was as illegal as methoxetamine and ketamine are now. Diphenidine and closely related miscreants are the worst dissociatives to be paddled since that tainted batch of 4-MeO-PCP, or perhaps since ever.
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    (EDIT: In response to the above post raas just removed where he asked whether he should stop giving his "honest opinion" of things)

    When the opinions are as unhelpful as yours perhaps you should consider doing just that. Or just keep them to yourself. Trolling vulnerable people is not on. Just makes you come over even more of a lowlife than usual. Stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lurching View Post
    Raas you clod, THAT is real rich coming from you
    Not aware of ever doing the same.. but did emphasise people do have bad habits they cannot help and not to judge (the bits u left out). Can you possibly contribute without childish name calling?


    And Shambles, not "trolling" anyone whatsoever. Just saying he may get more suitable treatment from the site if he could be more open, rather than frequent suicide threats which start to appear disingenuous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raasyvibe View Post
    And Shambles, not "trolling" anyone whatsoever. Just saying he may get more suitable treatment from the site if he could be more open, rather than frequent suicide threats which start to appear disingenuous.
    I see nobody suggesting disingenuity other than yourself and you have been saying the exact same thing consistently throughout this difficult period Hex has been going though. He is under no obligations to "open up" here if he doesn't want to (pretty sure he has actually but that's beside the point) and he said nothing about a suicide attempt in this thread - that's your assumption. You are the only one who has a problem with Hex's recent posting (in terms of him posting it at all, I mean) and I really see no reason for your constant accusations of attention-seeking other than... well... attention-seeking. Disingenuous posting trying to cause upset and generally distract from the topic in hand is trolling. Stop it.
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    no it wasn't a suicide attempt, no I didn't think I could fly, it was me being high and stupid.

    and I understand these posts come across as 'attention seeking' but I guess BL is the only place where I can connect with people with similar issues so I vent on here...
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    ^it's ok, Hex, you don't have to justify yourself. We all need tp talk at times better you do that than hurt yourself further or bottle things up x

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