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[–]Deanemc 286ポイント287ポイント  (21子コメント)

I always knew that them aussies were part of the minutemen

[–]R_MA 91ポイント92ポイント  (17子コメント)

General, another settlement needs your help!

[–]tellmetolearnnihongo 61ポイント62ポイント  (14子コメント)

Roight on it m8

[–]_Mittens 24ポイント25ポイント  (13子コメント)

Hurry, a group of rabid dingos are attacking Finch Farms! Here, I'll mark it on your map!

[–]tellmetolearnnihongo 21ポイント22ポイント  (11子コメント)

No wukkaz. 'ave a few bevos later ay?

[–]1Darkest_Knight1 11ポイント12ポイント  (10子コメント)

you bring the sheilas and I'll shag a carton and a pack of winnie blues.

Is Jonno coming?

[–]the_arkane_one 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

You're gonna fuck a carton ?

[–]1Darkest_Knight1 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

shag, snag, same difference mate. If the Sheilas aint playing then a blokes gotta try something new I guess

[–]StellarElite 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Mate, who the fuck says "sheila" these days?

[–]TheHasegawaEffect 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well I'm not 'ere to fuck spoydahs, aye?

[–]Beowolf241 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Map Marker Added: Gallipoli

[–]FranklyAwesome 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mate another barbie needs your shrimp mate

[–]Ridgeback_UK 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kellog was a Dingo all along.

[–]FatMonkeyUK 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another trench needs your help

[–]Kill_Kayt 319ポイント320ポイント  (35子コメント)

I believe this is the opposite of white washing.

[–]Gerroh 140ポイント141ポイント  (7子コメント)

Black bathing?

Brown blasting?

Dark dipping?

[–]TaintedTango 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

Brown Blasting works well for this, It implies violence.

[–]morgunus 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was under the impression that's what the mess after taco bell was called.

[–]Maguilar60 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A touch of the tar brush

[–]thecactusman17 29ポイント30ポイント  (23子コメント)

Listening to "Blueprint for Armageddon" by Hard Core History, about WW1 specifically.

The French in particular had a number of colonies throughout Africa, from Morocco to the Congo. They called up reserves from all over. So yeah, the French were almost as likely to include black and middle eastern soldiers as white boys from Paris.

Similarly, the British had the Ghurkas. And then off course there were the Turks.

[–]bugme143 47ポイント48ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nobody's arguing that each country didn't have soldiers of color.

What they're complaining about is that you can only play a British Ghurkha, or other black soldier.

[–]Rakulon 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, for the current map released for the beta this is accurate.

British Indian Army vs Turkey.

[–]In_It_2_Quinn_It 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've yet to see a black soldier on the British side, but loads of Ghurkhas and whites. I believe it's linked to the class you choose.

[–]sapper92 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think they're just the default models for the beta but you will probably be able to change it like other battlefield games

[–]yoshi570 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

French here. Colonial troops were a minority.

[–]Rakulon 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

In France, yes.

In the map out currently? There are no French at all, because its British Indian Army vs Turkey.

[–]Ob1konoli 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

But the Germans didn't have blacks. In fact they used the British and French using black troops to occupy German territory after the war as a political move by stating that these "savages" were pillaging and raping the German people.

[–]JoushMark 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

If by almost as likely you mean 1/26th as likely, then yes. French colonial troops came from everywhere but made up only a very small portion of the French Army.

[–]Rakulon 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

These are not similar. The French called them to the Western Front, and overwhelmingly there the forces of each belligerent were of European decent.

The British Indian Army's combatant strength was primarily Indian. They fought Turks but in Mesopotamia and Palestine, not the Western front, simply because that was the fastest way to get English Forces there. Those battles would be virtually entirely Indian vs Middle eastern. (White men were commanding officers)

Taking it back to the French point, 'just as likely' is completely false for Western front fighting.

[–]Ultra_Patriot 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice revisionist history you got there

[–]HILLARY_4_TREASON 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

So yeah, the French were almost as likely to include black and middle eastern soldiers as white boys from Paris.

Yeah, no. Use Google to look up photos of the trenches sometime and count how many non-white faces you see.

[–]Live2ride86 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Battlefield, you got a touch a the tarrrr brush

[–]guyfromiowa 76ポイント77ポイント  (17子コメント)

my question is where are the white guys?

[–]Rakulon 74ポイント75ポイント  (5子コメント)

Dying by the millions in Europe, no where near the area this map takes place in.

Edit: Downvoted for facts so will copypasta even more facts @ you from another post I made.

The Mesopotamia and Palestinian theater of WW1, because jack fucking shit of it happened in the Sinai Peninsula and no one has ever called it this outside of Lawrence movies, started with 5,000 Indian troops (British 16th Brigade) vs 5000~ Turkish (Riflemen and mostly irregular) troops. Within months the 6th Division (again, Indian in generally fighting force but predominately commanded by White English Officers) reinforced them and was lost to the Ottoman. (So about 40,000 men in total lost). Skip forward to the end of the War, and you still have about 92,000 dead British Indian Army (so, mostly brown) men and a very large and unknown amount of Turkish dead with another 40k prisoner. The full strength the British Empire in the region during 1918 was 414,000 men and of the 112,000 combat troops in that number a large portion (70,000~) were Indian or Anzac. In this regard the game is incredibly accurate. In the desert there would be white men, but they would not be fighting on the front. They would be piloting or more likely commanding. (TDLR of this section is that WWI desert fighting started and ended mostly brown)

The actual map is the biggest fucking farce to me because there are thousands of military history maps they could have had a grand time recreating but instead they did this shit-hole. Product Managers? Who controlled this? I did some looking through some of my books and its like they took the sandstorms from outside El Arish, the trains from around Dera and then the terrain from Amman. These are ~400 miles apart and separated by water.

That said, despite great and lengthy contributions by the British Indian Army the entire theater of war was indeed every bit the "Sideshow" it was called then by comparison to the European fronts who's death toll, army sizes and all around brutal dehumanizing tactics dwarfed it. Germany suffered a literal blow to their population. Frances mobilized armed forces suffered 73.3% casualties.

[–]AndrasKrigare 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The actual map is the biggest fucking farce to me because there are thousands of military history maps they could have had a grand time recreating but instead they did this shit-hole. Product Managers? Who controlled this? I did some looking through some of my books and its like they took the sandstorms from outside El Arish, the trains from around Dera and then the terrain from Amman. These are ~400 miles apart and separated by water.

Genuine question: does there exist a battlefield in the war that actually had those features? I'm assuming they wanted the train and sandstorm for gameplay purposes, and semi-randomly picked that location. Was there a better option they missed?

[–]Lutsaga 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hear ya! Upvote for ya.

[–]Toni-Draco 91ポイント92ポイント  (31子コメント)

I could be wrong, but I'm not familiar with black German soldiers during this time

[–]The_Naked_Snake 59ポイント60ポイント  (26子コメント)

You aren't wrong if you aren't familiar with it, but both sides used colonial (colored) troops in regions like Africa (where the beta map takes place).

So while it wouldn't make much sense to have colored troops in some areas of conflict, it makes perfect sense to have them in others. It's a videogame, not a documentary though, of course it will take liberties.

[–]Rakulon 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

The Beta does not take place in Africa, and the African Theater of War's deaths actually caused by the war are hardly mentionable unless out of historical accuracy. Somthing like less than 50k? Divisions of 50k melted daily in Europe. That said, the death in the African Theater was mostly caused by famine and brought it up to closer to 350k. Still not very much in terms of the war, but a terrible loss of life.

That said, the beta is a fuck-wit version of Lawrence of Arabia and is closer to fighting that would have occurred near Gaza or Amman. The troops would have been Indian men from the British Indian Army and Turkish Rifleman from the Ottoman Empire. Location wrong, infantry race correct.

[–]rbsanford 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

...or not correct. If the troops are Indian and Turkish, then why are they black?

[–]AncientStiffy 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

The beta is set in Egypt.... which is North Africa.

[–]SerHodorTheThrall 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Its set in the Sinai Peninsula...which is in Asia. The Suez Canal has been the demarcation line between Africa and Asia for 200 years now. In the future, please spare us your cursory geography knowledge.

Also, stop being pedantic. Its pretty evident he was referring to sub-saharan Africa as "Africa" as there was little fighting on the northern part of the continent outside of some local revolts.

[–]Shin-LaC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What do the Turks look like in the game?

[–]spaghettiAstar 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

They did, in fact they tried to get black American soldiers to switch sides by telling them they had no issues with them, and pointing out how poorly the Americans treated them. Didn't work though.

[–]TheNotoriousAMP 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

German Askari's served in very large numbers in the East African and Namibian theatres, fighting until the end of the war.

[–]1Darkest_Knight1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dont worry, no one else is either.

[–]Jimbob2010 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remove the question mark and change it to "DLC required"

[–]everypostepic 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

[–]Kniucht 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

Fucking hilarious that a non-entity like the US is in launch but the French aren't.

[–]AltRightMemeFrog 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

Whoch asses are you? The asses we Americans kicked, or the asses we Americans saved?

Back to Back World War Champions.

U.S.A.
U.S.A.
U.S.A.

[–]daveypixel 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

USA is the worst classmate on a project. Turns up late, takes 'literally' all the credit.

[–]Reicht 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, in WW2 it's because they brought a homebrew project that blew the class away....

[–]Kniucht 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

When did you do either?

[–]BeefMeter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#US_deliveries_to_the_USSR

The us gave something like a 1/3 of what it used itself in the German theater to Russia, so saying it had little to do with the Russians turning the tide is false as well.

[–]Asnerek 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

Most countries did use some colonial regiments, but the European part of the conflict back then had mostly white Europeans. Even in WW2 in the European theater that was still the case for the most part. I understand people like their ethnicity being represented in a game, but you cannot make history more diverse, it just doesn't work that way.

From what I've seen Battlefield 1 isn't historically accurate on most fronts and rather wants to make it some spectacular experience, using all kinds of experimental weaponry that was used in WW1 on a much smaller scale, or only near the end of the war.

Personally I'd love to see a game that differs between conflicts in the early years vs the later years. WW1 marked the end for the use of traditional hussar regiments for instance, would love to see a map without tanks that has light cavalry instead.

If you are looking for more historical accuracy you are better off playing Verdun. Leaving out france in the main game of a WW1 game is just insulting.

[–]kelkelt 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

you cannot make history more diverse, it just doesn't work that way

Won't stop 'em from trying.

[–]bansDontWork1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"He who controls the past controls the present" and all that.

[–]Rakulon 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

On proportions of African/Middle Eastern/Indian combatants it seems easier to just attribute it to lack of understanding of the Theaters of War.

The Mesopotamia and Palestinian theater of WW1, because jack fucking shit of it happened in the Sinai Peninsula and no one has ever called it this outside of Lawrence movies, started with 5,000 Indian troops (British 16th Brigade) vs 5000~ Turkish (Riflemen and mostly irregular) troops. Within months the 6th Division (again, Indian in generally fighting force but predominately commanded by White English Officers) reinforced them and was lost to the Ottoman. (So about 40,000 men in total lost). Skip forward to the end of the War, and you still have about 92,000 dead British Indian Army (so, mostly brown) men and a very large and unknown amount of Turkish dead with another 40k prisoner. The full strength the British Empire in the region during 1918 was 414,000 men and of the 112,000 combat troops in that number a large portion (70,000~) were Indian or Anzac. In this regard the game is incredibly accurate. In the desert there would be white men, but they would not be fighting on the front. They would be piloting or more likely commanding.

The above section is saying is that WWI desert fighting started and ended mostly brown.

The actual map is the biggest fucking farce to me because there are thousands of military history maps they could have had a grand time recreating but instead they did this made up place. Product Managers? Who controlled this? I did some looking through some of my books and its like they took the sandstorms from above Nekhl, the trains from around Dera and then the terrain from Amman. These are ~400 miles apart before you consider the respective actions took places in different years.

So, considering this is still beta and that the setting of the map is a little embellished for desert flavor, the soldiers in it are fairly accurate. I will be disappointed and surprised if they attention to detail for that, but would not have predominantly white characters in northern France.

[–]Shin-LaC 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hang on, what color do you think Turks are?

[–]LoLiTzTommyy 93ポイント94ポイント  (34子コメント)

We wuz Soljas

[–]Arrathir 21ポイント22ポイント  (9子コメント)

Canadian? They did quite a bit in WWI.

[–]bbqwoa 28ポイント29ポイント  (8子コメント)

We all fought as part of the British empire.

[–]Dvalentined666 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Would still be nice for some representation, I mean, they did throw quite a bit of accuracy out the window, so would Canadians in a Vimy Ridge DLC be too much?

[–]bbqwoa 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

You're preaching to the choir dog, the Canadians were the most enormous bad-asses of the entire war.

[–]kikoano 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

You forgot the Russians.They also took huge part in WW1.

[–]Xvx234 94ポイント95ポイント  (9子コメント)

It's current year, being white is racist

[–]mygirl_ 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're a walking stereotype.

[–]Rakulon 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

No just historically accurate for the Map out right now in Beta.

The Mesopotamia and Palestinian theater of WW1, because jack fucking shit of it happened in the Sinai and no one has pretended it did outside of Lawrence movies, started with 5,000 Indian troops (British Indian Army 16th Brigade) vs 5000~ Turkish (Riflemen and mostly irregular) troops. Within months the 6th Division (again, Indian in generally fighting force but commanded by Townshend's English Officers) reinforced them and was lost to the Ottoman. (So about 40,000 men in total lost). Skip forward to the end of the War, and you still have about 92,000 dead British Indian Army (so, brown) men and a very large and unknown amount of Turkish dead with another 40k prisoner. The full strength the British Empire in the region during the end of 1918 was 414,000 men and of the 112,000 combat troops in that number a large portion (70,000~) were Indian or Anzac. In this regard the game is incredibly accurate. In the desert there would be white men, but they would not be fighting on the front. They would be piloting or more likely commanding.

[–]MandalorianSage 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Black People shooting each other. Are we sure this isn't Battlefield: Chicago?

[–]hungry-animals 20ポイント21ポイント  (29子コメント)

So in this day and age, why can we just not customize what our soldiers look like? This game isn't historically accurate for the most part, so the race and gender of the soldiers is extremely irrelevant.

[–]Rakulon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can, its a tab but greyed out in the beta because the full game isn't available for a month still.

[–]DRAGON582 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Full game may have customization, don't quote me on that.

[–]QuoteMe-Bot 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

Full game may have customization, don't quote me on that.

~ /u/DRAGON582

[–]Dreaming_in_a_Coma 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really would love if they had a 1 out of ten thousandth chance(like the special reloading animations) where you spawn in as a women pretending to be a man so she could serve. Bonus points if the characters name is Lee Lemons.

[–]DUTCH_DUDES 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just to be clear, leaks from dataminers say there is soldier customization in the game and white people will be in it, just that these are the models they chose to go with in the beta for some reason.

[–]Nuclear_Chicken 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

It does aggravate me they seem hell bent on political correctness and are cramming a black guy in every faction. 5 bucks says the French guy is black too.

[–]kladenfar 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Otherwise the game won't sell because of diversity issues .. plaguing gaming communities since 1954.

[–]vgf89 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, aside from the French not being there, the outfits actually aren't half bad. Definitely makes them look more attractive/modern, while still maintaining at least some of the important features.

I can't tell whether the dark skin colors are due to lighting, in-game location, or just making them all black for the hell of it though.

[–]Harry101UK 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't tell whether the dark skin colors are due to lighting,

They're just covered in dirt, shit, blood and ash. War is hell.

[–]TheLastWarMind 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know whats more insulting the fact indigenous diggers usually don't get coverage or the one time they do, they are depicted as African americans wearing their hat the wrong way. :P

[–]jarrys88 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's an aussie in BF1?

we know turkey is.

does that mean we get rush on galipoli!

[–]lucassap 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"They didn't have the technology to motion capture Croissant."

"It'll ship with the surrender feature."

"Draw me like one of your DLC girls"

"Would you like some DLC Fries with that?"

"It'll arrive with the a Napoleon-sized DLC, with an Eiffel Tower-sizer price."

[–]2fast2soon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We Aussies had the White Australia Policy from 1901 till it was progressively dismantled in 1949. However, "half castes" were allowed to fight after 1917. So minimal minority.

[–]YourGameDoesSuck 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uh... umsorryforintruding but you forgot us canadians, wefoughtinWWItooohoksorry IknowwewereactuallypartofBritain

[–]nurb101 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

What? Does an African American German soldier shock you??

[–]The_Mighty_Snail 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Last time I checked, German, British and Australian People aren't American.

[–]Pyroven 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

An unrealistic game has unrealistic elements and people care because they think the social justice warriors are winning. It's not even the most unrealistic thing in the game.

[–]Allpointsofview 10ポイント11ポイント  (21子コメント)

Next there will be female soldiers too. It is really bull. It disrespects those that actually fought and died.

[–]Gerroh 65ポイント66ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know if I'd say it "disprespects" the ones who fought and died. But unrealistic "diversity" (if we want to call it that) for the sake of diversity is just silly.

[–]bansDontWork1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"He who controls the past controls the present."

Rewrite history to make it look like today's diversity push is not something new and people will buy in more easily - at least, that's the idea. The problem is that overwriting history, instead of learning from it, leads to repeating it.

[–]MyCatAteMyPoptart 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

disrespects those that actually fought and died

Proceeds to bash British soldier's head in with club then T-bags him

[–]solidanarchy 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

There was actually some women in the Turkish army that snuck in by cutting their hair short to fight. Ninety percent of the soldiers in the army were 15 to 17 year old so almost no one realized and those who did didn't care since it's fucking ww1.

[–]speakingcraniums 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_German_colonies#/media/File:Colonial_Africa_1913_Germany_map.svg

The current map is being fought in Africa. All sides used colonial troops. Maybe other maps will have different color troops? Idk really.

[–]old_faraon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Germans moved their troops there from the Balkans, after defeat of Serbia. German colonial possessions where isolated in South Africa and fought the surrounding Entente colonies, that's the place where You could see German colonial troops (in overwhelming majority) around Namibia, Cameroon or Tanzania.

The Sinai battle is 1 to 2 Europe's away from German colonies. Africa is Biiiiiiiiig.

[–]The_Naked_Snake 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It disrespects those that actually fought and died.

As opposed to the countless pieces of media (videogames, movies, television, books, etc.) that have come before this and glorified and "disrespected" every war you can think of?

Why is this the last straw for you?

At the end of the day it's a game that doesn't make much sense about a war that didn't make much sense, and it's no more offensive than anything that has come before it.

[–]firesyrup 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're discussing a shooter where the gameplay revolves around shooting people in a WWI setting, and you think it is the historically inaccurate racial diversity in customization options that disrespects those who died in the said war?

[–]xXISCOPEIXx 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

This kind of kills me in Rainbow Six: Siege. Like I get that some women could pass the tests to be an elite special forces operator, but half of the playable characters are female lol

[–]Hungry_Lion 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Most of the forces in Seige are police forces anyways. And even when they aren't Rule of Cool wins out in the end. I mean that female SEAL with the sleeve tattoo is pretty badass.

[–]xXISCOPEIXx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah Valkyrie is pretty badass haha.

[–]MyCatAteMyPoptart 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is an armored knight with a mini gun and you are worried about their races?

[–]lost_in_thesauce 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have magical syringes that instantly revive someone after an explosive tank round to the face and nobody bats an eye.

Make a black German soldier and everyone loses their minds.

[–]NamelessHexer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, we all know these black German Soldiers in WW1+2... seriously, wtf is DICE thinking here? Why not put Asian Women as German Soliders? That makes as much sense!

[–]Zanlios 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I mean its not historically 100% accurate but whatever right?

[–]liquidxlax 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

not even close to accurate. prototype weapons that never saw combat out the wazooo, no trench warfare and a bunch of other bull

[–]Straafe 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The French army has been announced as future dlc a long time ago.

[–]IE33 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ironic, they made it like that so they don't get "accused" (wonder by who... oh well, todays world standards...) of racism towards Black people.

Funnily enough now they are in-game, and you can shoot them.

[–]Bob_Bobinson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Germany had colonies in Africa. The UK had colonies in Africa. There are black people in Australia. I do not know what this 'French' thing is though. It sounds disappointing.

[–]HamiltonIsGreat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

whats ll cool j and preston doing there

[–]ArrrOne 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did notice while playing the beta that black characters seemed to be way more common than they would have been in the actual event.

[–]argent_pixel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look at that diversity!

[–]lord_ofthe_memes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most of my argument was not aimed at you in particular. You seem more reasonable than most of the people on this thread. I perfectly understand a desire for historical accuracy; I myself love history and usually like games to be accurate. But while allowing you to play as a black person may slightly decrease the historical accuracy, it's not like it's really a problem. It's perfectly reasonable to sacrifice a bit of accuracy for diversity, because diversity is important. Perhaps not you, but many white males don't seem to realize that anyone but white males ever really did a lot, due to the lack of diversity and representation in media, which causes a lot of other problems. But the biggest thing is: it's just not a big deal. There's no good reason to be mad about the Germans having black people in a video game. It's not going to lessen the experience in any way, whereas not allowing this would make the experience worse for people who don't want to play a white character. I perfectly understand your argument, and while your point is fine, there's simply not enough reason not to have this. Overall, it increases how much the game is enjoyed, which is the most important part of a game.

[–]Carb0xyl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol. I like how SJW culture demands to have black representation for an era in which blacks didn't fight in the war.

Fuck political correctness

[–]nastler -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

But there were people of color involved in the war

[–]Mudslimes 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not 3/4th of the British Empire as the game suggests though.

[–]BUMequipment 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fact you spent time on this is aggravating. Battlefield is not and never will be a role playing game. It's people like you that I bet never even played the game. Which (BF1!) is fuckin awesome. Also, the player models look insanely good in game play.

[–]Maximus_Pontius -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We Ba'afield nah!

[–]Rakulon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Character Customization is not out yet, but it exists as a greyed out tab in the game. I assume this will change. That said the current map is as stupid as this is and the comments in this thread. I would go through and rebuttal half the bogus history about proportions of African combatants, but it seems easier to just attribute it to lack of understanding of the size of armies at this time.

The Mesopotamia and Palestinian theater of WW1, because jack fucking shit of it happened in the Sinai Peninsula and no one has ever called it this outside of Lawrence movies, started with 5,000 Indian troops (British 16th Brigade) vs 5000~ Turkish (Riflemen and mostly irregular) troops. Within months the 6th Division (again, Indian in generally fighting force but predominately commanded by White English Officers) reinforced them and was lost to the Ottoman. (So about 40,000 men in total lost). Skip forward to the end of the War, and you still have about 92,000 dead British Indian Army (so, mostly brown) men and a very large and unknown amount of Turkish dead with another 40k prisoner. The full strength the British Empire in the region during 1918 was 414,000 men and of the 112,000 combat troops in that number a large portion (70,000~) were Indian or Anzac. In this regard the game is incredibly accurate. In the desert there would be white men, but they would not be fighting on the front. They would be piloting or more likely commanding. (TDLR of this section is that WWI desert fighting started and ended mostly brown)

The actual map is the biggest fucking farce to me because there are thousands of military history maps they could have had a grand time recreating but instead they did this shit-hole. Product Managers? Who controlled this? I did some looking through some of my books and its like they took the sandstorms from outside El Arish, the trains from around Dera and then the terrain from Amman. These are ~400 miles apart and separated by water.

That said, despite great and lengthy contributions by the British Indian Army the entire theater of war was indeed every bit the "Sideshow" it was called then by comparison to the European fronts who's death toll, army sizes and all around brutal dehumanizing tactics dwarfed it. Germany suffered a literal blow to their population. Frances mobilized armed forces suffered 73.3% casualties. Put the numbers above into perspective with 37,466,904 casualties in armed forces alone. Not civilian or Spanish influenza related.

[–]SnickycrowJayC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Part of Operation Human Shield.

[–]browningtons 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

First world slightly racist world problems

[–]KryptoBound 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand, this looks good to me, the helmets are correct, the outfits look pretty good, the weapons are accurate to history, is there an issue here or am I just not seeing it?