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Mourinho's Chelsea Collapse: What happened, and what does it mean for United? (self.reddevils)

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While I was part of the large number of United fans who were thrilled by Mourinho's appointment, I cannot help but remember the huge collapse Chelsea suffered last season under his management.

What does /r/reddevils think caused this collapse, and what does it mean for Mourinho at United? Is there any chance it could happen again? Has it renewed Mourinho's desire and passion to dominate English football? Discuss!

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[–]colucci 11ポイント12ポイント  (12子コメント)

The general consensus is that his second season was very exhausting on the players and he made very little changes to the squad after winning the title. Thus players were exhausted, there was no new signings, and it's always hard to motivate the players after they win the league (SAF said it himself).

[–]BloodyMess111 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

made very little changes

Not for want of trying. The club didn't back him

[–]GolDeScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's the one thing that should be different here. Hundred million a season is now our norm.

[–]babsk988Pogba 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

yeah apparently that emelano guy got none of the players mourinho wanted/needed and stuck him with pedro and baba rahman

[–]mkenya4tRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't forget Djilobodji.

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How could anyone forget Djibouti

[–]manutd875 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Had to have been more than that imo, that Chelsea squad was in relegation form. Guess we'll never know.

[–]colucci 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well they also said that the team started hating him. And they also said there was a mole that was leaking team lineups and other info. But everything coming from the media should be taken with a mine worth of salt.

[–]alee1994 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also Jose's father was ill and he used to fly out to Portugal fairly regularly and therefore gave the squad alot of time off.

[–]manutd875 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wonder why they started hating him, he's typically a manager that players really like. I know the Eva Carneiro thing was significant but there had to have been more.

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He probably tore into the likes of Hazard and Costa for being overweight and not performing when the team was in bad form which created bad feeling, Dropping Terry didn't help either as id imagine he had a lot of sway in the dressing room

[–]GolDeScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

He famously never used to rotate much, but we have a really good squad now and he seems keen to rotate. Plus if he is successful at United the board will give him as much money as he wants to refresh the squad each season.

[–]colucci 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most managers tend to be stubborn, but I really want to think that Mourinho learns from his mistakes and rotates more; especially after his interview where he said he can't wait till September so everyone gets a chance.

[–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

From what I can tell he didn't have the complete backing of the chelsea board during the transfer season and didn't get to bring in the players he wanted. During the course of the season he also lost the dressing room and struggled with motivating players after winning the league the season before.

If anything I'd think his passion and desire is even higher now and he's motivated to win. I also highly doubt he'd make the exact same mistake again but you never know.

[–]CalimariaeSolskjaer 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The reasons for his Chelsea collapse are well-documented.

Unless José gets amnesia and forgets what giving your players too much freedom can do, or his father becomes suddenly ill again - you don't need to worry.

[–]OriArRooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

  1. Huge power struggle between the board and Jose, with the board not that keen to back him in the market.
  2. His father's illness proving a very unwelcome (To say the fucking least) distraction during the summer, which means Chelsea's pre season was way less than ideal
  3. Eva-gate, which very likely led to that Jose lost the dressing room. It should be noted that things were less than ideal already before that, but Eva proved to be a massive distraction and it affected the squad really negatively. I also think that had Jose got the players he wanted before Eva-gate, and the off season went better, then he'd had dealt with it way more calmly and it'd have a zero effect on the players. Jose's antics with her and the guy physio were somewhere between mysterious and completely mind boggling.

I have this theory that if Jose had gotten Pogba and Stones that summer like he wanted to, then the pressure in Chelsea would have had calmed down instantly and the players would actually perform and Chelsea would have run away with the title, luckily we will never know.

[–]stebinalexCR7 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

After winning the league, I believe Jose wanted a new CB and CM, to replace John Terry(he was aging) and Matic/Fabregas ( both of them where not as good as the start if the season). They wanted to bring in Pogba, I believe Riola has come out and said that Chelsea were after pogba. Chelsea brought Djejiboli and Matt miazga, who were young and relatively unproven.

Lastly Abrohamovic wasn't supporting Jose in the Transfer window, With United under Eddy, he would not be facing that issue.

[–]TudoorsScholes -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus... Obviously it can still happen, and I'm somewhat expecting it to. When he falls out of almost every single job he holds for more than 3 years, to say it's different at United because we'll back him is just hopeful as hell.