I recently came upon this movement (for lack of a better word) and there are some things i find striking about it.

• when you actually go your own way instead of just doing what everyone else is doing, you generally get accomplished and have an interesting life, which are features that attract women.
• MGTOW does not go it's own way but unifies it's to a cause exclaiming how bad things are instead of going their OWN way
• whenever you strive hard for something by debating, talking, etc with a group that already agrees with you you generally don't change things and the same goes for debating with others that oppose your standpoint already - i.e. feminists. thus you are not helping your own cause.
  • if you wouldn't care about the point above life would be less irritating, you would get done more things that you like (which is your goal, by going your own way I presume) and you would actually have the chance to meet someone you like (friend or partner) of the other sex.
  • while you constantly claim how women are manipulative you don't act accordingly by accepting that and changing your stance on women but keep assuming on how YOU think they should be (without the negative traits) and hold them to those standards.

-last but not least: why not think of them as enjoyment for freetime, like television or something, instead of a goal. it's the same way they treat men (according to you) so that would only be fair.

I don't subscribe to either feminist ideology or MGTOW but I just find it funny how both groups make the same mistakes and I thought you should be aware of that. feel free to bring arguments on how I am wrong or right, I only recently learned of this so I'm trying to figure this out logically

kind regards, Laafheid