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[–]DspaJ 2 points3 points4 points  (3 children)
Gun control only benefits the government. The nazis took guns away and seized total control. Im pretty sure that if jews were able to keep their guns they would have fought back just like they did in the Warsaw Uprising. The second amendment protects the first. Taking guns away makes you dependent on the police for protection but when you only have seconds to live the police are minutes away. If the government and politicians don't live in fear of the people then they can do as they please. Also many people rely on hunting in order to feed their families. Conceal and carry is a nice and legal way to deal with violent criminals, crackheads and methheads. Schools should have at least one armed guard and metal detectors to keep the kids safe like they do in Chicago. There is violence and death on the city streets but no school shootings since people have to be buzzed in and pass metal detectors when they enter the schools.
[–]salzst4nge 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
As a German with history major course in high school and pretty much 5 years of school time with pre 1945 Germany/Europe curriculum I am of the opinion that they could have not.
The systematic deportation of dissidents wasn't announced overnight.
And the disliking of Jews was almost the same in whole Europe.
Pre-1933 there have already been officials in place that started to limit the supply of weapons especially to Jews.
With Hitler's official reign 1933, the German state conducted raids mainly focused on Berlin, famous people like Einstein and in a few other large cities.
Unannounced, systematic, intel-based search and seizures throughout all the years of the third reich. We are talking years. Until 1938 and further.
The idea of jews taking a K98 into their hands to protect their family? This alone means having no clue how the mind set was back then. And your enemy wasn't knocking on your door announcing himself.
Imagine you and your family are swatted in the night by multiple SS-officers and Gestapo. How would weapons come in handy here?
I can only imagine the lynching when suddenly Jews were reported shooting military or "police" officially "investigating"
Furthermore the Nazis implemented a system of ghettoization - which was pretty much welcomed by the Jew-hating population and happened over years.
Jews had the third reich military AND the hostility of the civilian population working against them.
You either had enough money to flee beforehand or you tried to hide and hope for the best.
Yes, there have been ghetto uprisings, but most revolt came from the underground.
There had also been resistance, even throughout the German non-Jew population. But whilst even high-ranking traitors failed to assassinate Hitler, you had the common mass celebrating the death of millions.
Saying privately owned guns were a way to prevent the final solution is not only completely ignorant, it is outright disrespectful to history, the amount of work and study done on this horrible highlight of the wrongdoings of humankind as well as the 60 million casualties.
[–]halcyonwade 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Thank you!!
[–]Jdm5544 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I agree any comparison to Nazi Germany with this kind of argument is ridiculous.
That being said, the mindset of the average (especially rural) citizen of the United States and its cultture is far different from the jews in Nazi Germany. We have no history of hatred and certainly nothing that compares to the antisemitism of Europe for most of its history. Add to that a deep independent streak and general mistrust of the government and you have a situation where we are not afraid to display our displeasure,and if the government ever tried to violently break up a (for the sake of simple argument) a pro guns march. 1 I don't know if the soilders would follow the order. And 2 it would start the 2nd american civil war real fast.
Basically I really do not think the USA today and pre war Nazi Germany can even really be compared in any fair fashion as they are just to different.
I'm tired and going to bed soon so this is probably a little jumbled so sorry about that. If you want to continue this discussion I will happy to do so tomarrow.
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